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Profiting from Oil and Gas Investments: Arthur N. Budge, Jr and Thomas V. Costantino of Five States Energy Company LLC, discuss their unique approach to investing in the lucrative oil and gas sector.
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IFG WEALTH MANAGEMENT FORUM THE PREMIER EVENT FOR NORTH AMERICAN FAMILY OFFICES
April 23-24, 2012, The Ritz-Carlton, Phoenix, Arizona
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Profiting from Oil and Gas Investments
Over the last 100 years, producing oil and gas properties
have proven to be very strong and stable components to
private wealth investment portfolios, as they have
historically been highly uncorrelated to financial indices,
according to Arthur N. Budge, Jr, President and Chief
Executive Officer, and Thomas V. Costantino, Chief Financial
Officer of Five States Energy Company LLC. However, it is
not a sector where passive investment is enough, they add.
Five States Energy Company LLC is a private equity
investment group that will be present at the IFG Wealth
Management Forum 2012 in Phoenix, Arizona, April 23-24.
Ahead of the event, Budge and Costantino talk about the oil
and gas sector, and how high net worth individuals can profit.
IFG - What is unique about the Five States’ approach
to investing?
Budge - Unlike many institutional funds, Five States takes a
long-term value approach to investing in acquisitions, more
like an active oil and gas company than a purely financially-
oriented investment group. We do a bottom-up valuation
using traditional metrics, expecting to earn our return from
current income derived from ownership and operation of oil
and gas properties. We are not exclusively IRR focused. Our
investment approach is more aligned with the family office
model. We use discounted cash flow models in project
valuation, but also focus on achieving strong long-term
cash-on-cash returns. Our investors tend to prefer long-term
investments which pay stable or growing cash dividends,
rather than a highly volatile and unpredictable earnings
stream. Over the last 27 years we have consistently
generated double-digit cash-on-cash distributions.
IFG - Why oil and gas properties, and how do you
identify good deals in this sector?
Budge - The oil and gas sector can provide a uniquely
stabilizing function within a portfolio. Over the long-term
producing oil and gas properties have been non-correlated
to most other financial indices. Oil and gas investments can
generate a high current yield and are not dependent on
appreciation for a return. However, high yields are not
earned in a passive manner in this sector. Success requires
active participation by an experienced investor with a
seasoned technical staff. Besides providing capital, Five
States adds investment value to our business partners with
our understanding of the oil and gas transactions, and our
in-house geologists and engineers who can identify
attractive investment opportunities.
Costantino - We don’t make investments in tax shelters.
However, there are tax benefits associated with oil and gas
limited partnerships which enhance the returns of these
investments versus other investments. Oil and gas
partnerships receive two favorable tax treatments in the US
tax code. First, the percentage depletion allowance provides
for the deduction of up to 15 per cent of gross revenue,
even after the cost basis is fully depleted. Second,
intangible drilling costs, the cost of drilling new wells, can
be expensed rather than capitalized. Fortunately, in the
current market, a lot of the value enhancement of oil and
gas properties revolves around the development of
additional wells in existing fields to increase total
production and income.
IFG - What is your outlook on this market?
Budge - There is a huge overhang of natural gas production
in North America, so I am somewhat bearish on the
prospects for natural gas prices. But this makes it a good
time for value investors to make acquisitions. We have not
made a natural gas investment since 2004, and Five States
sold all of our natural gas properties in 2007. However,
given the pressure that declining prices has put on the
natural gas market, the value proposition is shifting us back
into the buy mode, and we are once again actively soliciting
natural gas investments.
Costantino - The fundamentals on the oil side are much
stronger. That said, we are very defensive right now with
regard to the near term oil price. We are 80 per cent
hedged on our near term production. Our current fund is
hedged at a little over $100 a barrel for the next three
years. Last year we were able to make investments based
on an $85 pro forma, as the market trading range of oil
prices moved between $80 and $100. By having an effective
hedge program, we locked-in additional margin, rather than
speculating on the short-term performance of oil prices.
Our actions eliminated the price risk from our near-term
return on capital, without impacting returns if in the
intermediate to long term, oil prices go up.
Arthur N. Budge, Jr and
Thomas V. Costantino of
Five States Energy
Company LLC, discuss their
unique approach to
investing in the lucrative oil
and gas sector. Five States
is a private equity
investment group that will
be present at the upcoming
IFG Wealth Management
Forum 2012.
Arthur N. Budge, Jr
Chief Executive Officer
Five States Energy
Company LLC
Thomas V. Costantino
Chief Financial Officer
Five States Energy
Company LLC
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Five States Energy Company LLC
The motto of Five States Energy is “Money Well Invested.” We take pride in being prudent guardians of the capital our investors entrust with us. Since our
founding by Jim Gibbs in 1985, Five States has expanded from a focus on oil and gas investments to a broader platform by providing opportunities in energy,
real estate and private equity.
www.fivestates.com
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