P3Jan2018ERSIM

OnceagainwhatfollowsaresomeobservationsfromthecurrentP3sim,withsomeadditionalnotes/opinionsofferingsomeofthemanyavailablemethodstomanagethisprofile,specificallyfortheS/OorJFOfacingtheirfirstPCsopleasetakefromthemwhatyoufindvaluableanddumptherest.

SimBriefingQuestions:Standardwithfollowingadditions;

• WhatactionsshouldPFtakeiflandingonacontaminatedrwyandAC

driftsoffcenterlineduex/w.

..stowreversers,disconnectbraking(how?),regainctrlineandredeployreversemaxonboth.

• Actionsifitbecomesclearyouwontmakedesignatedexitonacontam

rwy

Applymaxreverseandmaxmanualbraking(Idon’tagreewiththatone,perhapsshouldread…ifapproachinglastexit?)

• Defofcontaminatedrunway

• WhatTOthrustsettingsallowedonacontaminatedrwy

NosimplifiedcalculationsandnoASTmethodthrustsettings.

• DecodeusingCXFOPTOOLS‘88290492’

CAPTPROFILE

INSIM:wearepromptedtousetheIPADforallreferencematerial,theinitial

sequenceandtheOPTappfortheperfcalc(NBafinalloadsheetissenttoACto

assistinthefinalprep)

TheTOWontheLSwillbe500kgdifferenttoyourOPTbasedontheinfocardas

ProfilecardsaysTOW230.0howeverLSsays229.5,inrealitytheD-TO2is

consideredmaxthrustsoanallowanceof+0/-400kgusingtheOPTapp.

Ifyoudon’tgetanactualLS,agoodideamightbetoopentheOPTappthenenter

splitscreenmodebydraggingtheDOCsappuptothescreenalsoforfinalprep

inputlikethis:

NBforentry,ensure“dispatch’onbottomofscreenisselected.Also,the

contaminationinputforthisapprequirestheactualcontaminantforaTOcalc,

andtheresultingbrakingactionforthelandingcalc.

CheckingFMCforuswas;hardtunetheILSfordepartureconfirmation,check

legs,230isdefaultedatDIVSA,howeverthe2000ftallellengaccellwasnotin

theboxsoweaddedit.

CTWOincludedthecontamrunwayallowance=F15andD-TO2,andAWOdue

visfromheavyrainsodiscussedlightsandwipersetcasperLVObriefingin

QRH.Visgivenas200mallzones,thereforenotsuitableforareturnasbelow

CAT2,WIDDnominatedasdepartureAlt.

WSSST/OVMR8B20Cwithallenginesaccelerationat2000ft(APengagedfrom

200ft),whenF5andCLBTHRcalledforwehadsomemajornoiseandvibration

withfluctuatingN1indicationsfromtheLenginefollowedbytheTHRASYM

COMPeicas,thenaverybriefmentiontothePMofpossENGLIMITSURGE

STALLjustastheenginefailswithcontinuedvibrationandtheENGFAILLeicas.

ThePMcalleditandIelectedtohavehimSBY,theAPdoesanOKjoboflowering

thenosebuttheTAChasfailedsothetrimiswelloutandresultsinashallow

climbduringtheturn/accelsoIsuggestsomehelpwiththerudderbyfoot

followedupwithtrimgetstheaccellandclimbbackontrack.

NBIfyouareinthe300sim,theaccelerationisnonexistentandextrathrustwillberequired,(refermynotesfromP32016onourfavoritewebsite)WewerethroughF5speednowsocalledforF1,then“confirmthefailure”etc

beforerunningtheENGSEVDAMAGESEPERATIONLMEMITEMS”

TheywerecompletedasweselectedFUP,andtheslowaccellmeantwehad

timetoquicklyissueaMAYDAY(dueSeveredamage/vibrationFCTM)callandhavetheALTconstraintsontheSIDremoved,sbyintentions.

RemembertheTACisinopfornowsoconstanttrimmingrequiredduringthe

cleanup.

AtFlapsupandCONTHR,theQRNNNMLCKLInstructionssaysweneedto

selectVNAVENGOUT>EXECbeforerunninganyotherCKL.

STDstufffromhere;

>NNC(ifitsyourfirstPCremembertheCKLbuttonwillpresenttheENGFAILL

CKLbutyouneedtonavigatetoUnannunciatedCKLsandselectthecorrect

severedamageCKL)

>TACINOPCKLandtheTACdoesrecoverinthisprofile

>Eicasreview

>*newprocedurenow,theATOCKLiscalledforafterthePMcompletesflow.

>Reviewofwhathappenedandoptionsavailable,belowMLWandwxbelow

Cat2soupdatetheWX.

Toldtostopclimbat4500ft

Visgivenas350/150/100soallgoodforCat2approachbackonto20C,ATC

advisedoftheplananddowngradedtoPANasA/CflyingOKandnoobviousfuel

leak,thensometrackmilesrequestedtoallowforsetup.

Briefedthatherewewould

1)activatethealertphase“ATTNcrewatstations”X2followedbySTARbrief

2)PAtopaxincludingturnallPEDsoff

3)IOCalertmessage

SetupfortheILS20CfromEGORAat4500ft.WerantheOPTtooltocalculatethe

LPA,NBtheairdistancefromthresholdtotouchdownisnowbasedupontime

(7secs)sothereisnooptionforanAutolandasit’satimenotadistance.Also,

unliketheT/OperftheuseofanyNNcode(ieENGSHUTDOWNinthiscase)

meansthebrakingactionmustbeusedtoperformcalcasopposedtotheactual

contaminantwheneveranythingotherthanDRY.Togetthebrakingactionifitis

notgiven,usetheRYNWAYCONDITIONASSESSMENTtableinFCOM3(L.10.8)

For4mmstandingwatertheactionisMed/Poor.

Youwillseethedistancesforallbrakesettingsforthisexercisearefairlysimilar

andyouaregoingtoneedalloftherunway,forrefrunwayexitinfo:

WSSS20C

E810341

E910721

E1012401

WechoseAB4togiveaslowtaxioptionexitatE10.

Ø BriefincludedAWO-refQRH,noreversionavailable,RADIOonminimumsselector

Ø OPNL-TACoperating,Ø FUELimbalanceforming,logiccheck(Livesidelowtank,CALC=TOT)so

theeicascanbeexpected,ifduringapprepeatlogiccheckanddismissfor

reviewineventofaGA.

>DESCCKL

>APPCKL

Seatcrew>bringupLDGCKLwhencabinreadyreceived

Vectored'to'a'4500ft'intercept'justbeforeEGORA,

At600ftwegottheAUTOPILOTeicas(autopilotremainedengaged)andthelat

FDbardisappearedindicatingLOCfail,sowecommencedtheGA.NBWhenthe

APsreturnruddercontroltotheTACyoumightneedtohelpitoutalittleatthe

highthrustsetting.

At1000ftAGLsetSPDbugtocleanspeedandaccelerationtakesawhileinthe

turnfromESLUX,atFlapsUp,youneedtoachieveCONTHRbyselectingFLCH

(FLCHorCLB/CONbuttonifalreadylevel)

>ATOflowandCKL

ATCinstructustocontinuestandardMAPtoEXOMOandhold.Asitwasn’tauto-

tuningwechosetomanuallytuneVTKononeVORforsomerawdata

monitoring,MINalt4000whichyoucanmakeeasyandmax230kts(cleaninthe

ERwas223kts)

EnrtetotheholdwegottheFUELIMBeicasandrantheCKLwithalogiccheck

toskipthelongPage2troubleshootingandgodirectlytotherefitems.

FromATC“WSSSclosed,expectCAT1ILS04WIDD”..updatetheWX

GivenBase300ftvis800mQ1003.*

>ISM/PAX/IOCupdate

>Setupfortheapproach.It’sadiversionsowechosetosimplyoverwritethe

DESTonRTEP1,justbecarefultonotexecuteanythinguntiltheLEGSpageis

checkedasit’sagoodwaytopossiblylosetheholdyouareabouttoenter!

(POSNEXOMOshownforrefinabovepic)

LPAusingtheOPTtool,thistimeATCtellyoubrakingactionisMED.

Forref:

WIDD04exits

B:9000ft

A:11500ft(preferredexitfromPORTpage,howeverweelectedAB4and

expectBvacate.)

Clearedtoleavetheholdandvectoredtoa9nmfinalBTMwithpilotsdiscretion

descentto1800ftcontactWIDD.*ThisisthetimetosetheQNHto1003

NoneedtoexitholdaswewentstraighttoFFwithaninboundcourse.

>Brief;included“thiswillbeamanualapptoamanuallandingusingmanual

thrust,speedcontrolabigthreatsomonitorcarefully,setspeedonschedule.”

NBtheTACisoperatingthroughoutentireprofile.BAROontheminimumsselector.

>DESCCKL

>APPCKL

…seatcrew

>BringupLDGCKLwhencabinreadyreceived.

ManuallyflownILStominima,nilsightingintoGAasprevious,APinafterclean

andCONthrset.

>CKL=FuelImbalance,reviewedandclosetobalancedsoweelectedto

completeit.

>EICASreview–cx

>ATOflowandCKL

Reviewsituation,updatetheWX

WSSSnowopenexpectVOR20CBase700ftvis3000m.

VectorstowardanincptoftheinboundfromoutsidetheCF@9.2VTK.

>Diversionsetupasprevious,directtoCFinbnd203,FFintothefixpagewitha

2nmr/rifthat’swhatyouuse,MinimumsMDA+50,NAVRADweoverwrotethe

manuallytunedVTKwithBTMleavingoneVORautotuning.(personal

preference,aslongasyouare‘monitoring’theaidfortheapproach)

LPAasprevious,runwayconditionsasprevious.NBacheckofVNAVshowed

ACTEOCRZsoVNAVsequencescorrectly.

>BRIEFincludedconfigondistanceasVTKsits3nmbeforethethreshold,and

definitelyfullyconfiguredaswehitFF.Useadvisories,TheMDXXwptis250ft

abovetherunwaysoactionsatminimaareFDsoff/PMon,monitorRODinthe

visualsegment.

>DESCCKL

>APPCKL(nbtrytogettheAPPCKLoutofthewaytoavoidtheCKLINCOMP

eicasifyouareconfiguringtostarttheVORapp).(belowTXLandflapsoutofup)

…seatcrew

>BringupLDGCKLwhencabinreadyreceived.

Youareclearedfroma30degreeincptheadingfortheappandtodesc2000ft

whenready.RemembertoarmLNAVasyouaren’tgoingdirecttotheCF.We

commencedDESCinVSandthengotintoVNAVwhilstconfiguringinthelevel

segmentbetweentheCFandFF,thelegspageshowedALTconstraintsin

magentaandthevertdevbarsappearedindicatingtheACwilldescendin

VNAVPATH.

PMcalledapproachingGPsosetMDA.LDGCKLcompletedaswecrossedFF.

SetMAPALTestablishedintheFinalDescentPath

IMPORTANTnotehere,theGPangleis3’howevertheRoDisquitehighfromthe

FF,at700ftvisual,youareleftofctrlinewithawindfromtherightaswellso

promptactionrequiredtopickupctrline,Iflew850fpmfromminimabutended

upneeding1000fpmfrom500fttomaintaintheprofile,theFOdidamuchbetter

jobusing1000fpmfromthevisualpointandjumpingacrossthensettlingdown

toafinaldescrateof900fpmonthectrline.

CAPTsprofilecomplete.

AtthispointwerepositionedtoFL350somewhereoverWSSSfortheCABINALT

exercise.CAptfirstassinglepilot,PMinthebathroom.

DOORAFTCARGOeicasappears,bythetimeyoureachforthedoorsynoptic

thereisaloudbangandthecabinstartsclimbingrapidly.Ijustwentthroughthe

steppromptlyforthemask,thenatasteadypacefortheremainderasitseasyto

fuckupbelieveitornot:-)

Maskon/100%Establishcommunication(ie“captonoxygen“whichIdidto

keepitnormalprocedure)

(theCABALTeicasandmasterwarningauralisblearingsoCXthewarning.)

CabinALTandrate….check.(inthiscasetheoutflowvalvesarefullyopenand

cabinreaching35000ft)

PAXOXY…pushtoonandholdfor1sec

ItsRVSMsoturneitherdirectionnotlessthan45degrees(orcanconsider

stayingontrackiftrafficmeansthat’sasaferoption)PRESSTRKSEL.

Commencedesc…..ALTselectorto1000s(opinionasitseasytoflicktheselector

leftwhileitssettoautoandonlywinddownafewhundredfeetifit’saquick

‘flick’)thensetanyaltaboveMSAfornow,SelectFLCH,FullS/B(cautionifyou

areclosetomaxALTasyouwillcreateastallasthenoseisslowtolowerinthis

scenario),SPDincreasebywindingtheSPDselectoruptoanyvalueasthereis

speedprotectionifyousetaboveVMO(nbtheSPDwindowopensinIASevery

time)

Ithentidyupbycallingthemodes,selectingMACHandsettingMMO-.1,TRKto

thecorrectvalue,ALTconfirmthesafealtandset.

…..SINGLEPILOTSTUFFnowalllightson,MAYDAYcallrequestingtheAREA

QNH,oncereceivedsetimmediatelyandchangefromSTDLVLasallescape

ALTSbaseduponanALTnotaFL.Sqk7700.

BringuptheCABALTCKL,onlyafewstepsanditsimportanttomakesureyou

goteverythingdone,youmaynotbethinkingstraightorevenbeslightly

incapacitated.

ThenjustflytheAC,theSPDchangesfromMachtoIASaround314ktssokeep

increasingthespeedifdesired.

NB:“Considerationshouldbegiventolimitingspeedsifstructuralintegrityisindoubt“WediscussedthisandIwashappyacceleratinggivennovibrationorbuffetingexperienced.TheFOflewhisatthecurrentspeed

whichisappropriatebutittakesaverylongtimetoreach10,000ft.

Captfliestomiddescent,FOfliesallthewaytoaleveloffthen

• >CompletetheCABALTCKL(bepractical,theCabaltitudeshows10400

inthesimbuttheFOmadetherightchoiceinremovinghismask.

• TheAFTCARGODOORCKLisstillshowingsodon’twastetimedoingitas

youarealreadydepressurized.

• ResettheleftOXYmaskdoortoenablethestandardmic

• PA“iepaxandcrewitissafetoremovemasks”blahblahblah,(asthey

areprobablywaitingforinformationandthecpitcrewinlooorupstairs

wontknowwhataltitudeyouareat.“ATTNISMtointerphone”X2

• IwouldthenhittheCABbuttontwicetocalltheISMoninterphone.

Endofexercise.

FOPROFILE

Allproceduralconsiderationsasperthefirstprofile.Differencesare;

WIDDHOSBA1CclearedtoWSSSat3500ft.

Runbriefingcardasenginesarerunning,willcompletetheOPTperfcalc

asadvertisedandaLSisnotsentsowillneedtousetheinfoprovidedon

thebriefingcard.

AftertheMCP/CDUinputyouneedtoruntheRWYT/Odatachangeckl

andbelieveitornotitseasytoforgettoselectthecorrectflap.

EngfailswithseveredamageatCLBTHRsettingwhenacceleratingfrom

1000ft,therightdepartureturniscoincidentwiththeleftengfailureso

withnoTACtheERdidn’twanttocontinueacceleratingandclimbingand

turning,alotofruddertrimwasrequiredtogettheACinbalanceand

accelerating.

Don’tworryaboutthe7000ftclimbrestrictionasyouareonlyclearedat

3500andtakenoffthesidontovectorsaftertheMAYDAYcall.

VectorsILS04withdescentto1800ftandclearedtointcptfromCFand

(whichisthe3000ftpointsoconfigondistancenotalt.)

AutoApptoCAT1minimawithTACoperatingtoGAduenilsighting

again,remembertoselectTRKselectbeforetheturninMAP,allhappens

quitequickly.

DivertWSSS,NBQNHchangeagain,vectorstoNYLONtojointhehold

(programonlybutthedefaultwasnotthecorrectinbnd/directionsowill

needtochange

Vectorsanddescentto2500ftforILS20Cmanuallyflown,manthr,TAC

operating,toGAduenilsightingagain,APinoncecleanandcointhrust

set.

VectorsVOR20Cwithvis4kmbase800ft.

NBinthissession,theVNAVshowedclbphasestillactivesoDESCNOW

wasselectedandthealtconstraintsonlegspageturnedmagentawith

vertdevbarsshowingonND.

Landoffthisone

That’situntilnexttime.

HelpfulKiwiJ

AppendixtoP3notesThankstofeedbackfromacoupleofguyssomeadditionalinfopertinenttotheP3simnotmentionedinmyinitialbrief.ReTHRUSTMANAGEMENT

WhentheenginestartsfailingduringtheaccelerationphasethethrusthasjustchangedtoCLB2thrfollowingtheflapselectionasyouprogrammed.

CXSOPistomaintainT/OorFULLRATEDthrustuntilcleanbeforeCONthrustisset.UponreflectionIthinkwemusthaveacceleratedwithCLBTHRwhilstrunningthememitemsasintheERtheaccelerationwasOKandnotprolonged(relativelyshortperiod),butIcantrecallexactlyJSoincaseIgotthatwronghereissomefeedbackfromotherdudes.

Fromoneofthesmarterladsoutthere;

1)“WiththeTOflownatTO2,whentheengineseveredamageoccursatflapretractionthethrustrollsbacktoCLB2,whichisnotideal.HoweveritisalsonotsensibletohitTOGAstraightaway,sotheadvicegivenandhowIflewitwas:Completethememitemsfirst-hitTOGA–reselectLNAV-SPDwindowopenandbugcleanspeed.Thisworkedoutverywellforusandseemedaveryneatwayofsortingthemodes.”

Fromanother;“AfterflyingwithXXX(STC)remanagingtheCLBTHRhesuggestedthemethodaboveifyouareinCPA15,butintheERshenoticedthatCONTHRisample(CLB/CONbutton)”SoIguessitallcomesdowntowhetheryouarehappywiththeperformanceoftheA/C,butitappearsthecheckiesareacceptingwhichevermethodyouchoose.retheVORAPPROACH“CheckthelastcodedWPTandifitisat200ftagl(asitisinthisprofile)theFDsaregoodtouseallthewaydowntothisWPTandtheywillplaceyoulinedupwiththerRWYverynicely.”Thanksfortheinputchaps!