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July 2004
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Submission
Mesh NetworkingTask Group Process
Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
+1-508-786-7554
July 2004
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Submission
Generic Process of Getting toLetter Ballot
• Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria• Technical Presentations and Discussions• Specify Any Additional Requirements and
Comparison Criteria• Call For Proposals• Select/Combine from Submitted Complete/Partial
Proposals to Produce a Draft• Refine Draft• Letter Ballot
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802.11 Example Project HistoriesP AR
First First tole tte r sponsor Com ple te
P AR App ba llot dra ft tim e se ssions ba llot tim e BD App tim e se ssionsope ne d (da ys) ope ne d (da ys) (da ys)
802.11-1999 9-De c-97 18-M a r-99 464.00 8802.11a -1999 16-S e p-97 16-S e p-99 730.00 1311b-1999 9-De c-97 16-S e p-99 646.00 1111d-2001 26-Jun-99 31-Ja n-01 14-Jun-01 719.00 1311e 30-M a r-00 5-Apr-01 D1.0 371.00 7 7-Apr-03 732 1-Nov-04 1677.00 2911f 30-M a r-00 5-Apr-01 D1.1 371.00 7 18-S e p-02 531 12-Jun-03 1169.00 2011g 21-S e p-00 31-Ja n-02 D2.1 497.00 9 6-Fe b-03 371 12-Jun-03 994.00 1711h 7-De c-00 25-Jul-01 D1.0 230.00 4 12-De c-02 505 11-S e p-03 1008.00 1811i 30-M a y-01 25-M a r-02 D2.0 299.00 6 20-Nov-03 605 4-Jul-04 1131.00 2011j 11-De c-02 4-S e p-04 633.00 1111k 11-De c-02 3-Jun-05 905.00 16802.15.1 18-M a r-99 15-Apr-02 1124.00 20802.15.3 30-M a r-00 12-Ja n-03 1018.00 18
939.8S ub-se t Ave ra ge 353.6 548.8 1195.8 16.5
11n 11-Sep-03 29-Aug-04 6.6 1-Mar-06 19-Dec-06(Figure above by Bruce Kramer.)
11s 24-Jun-04 May/July 05 Nov 06
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Goals for July 2004 MeetingAdopted By ESS Mesh SG in May
• July (Portland, Oregon)– Usage Cases and Functional Requirements
discussion– Adopt Initial Definitions document– Architecture Presentations– Other ad-hoc subgroup results and
Presentations– Joint Meeting with 802.11r, etc.
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Future Schedule as Discussedat May 2004 Meeting
• September 2004 (Berlin, German)– Adopt Functional Requirements / Evaluation Criteria document– Adopt Skeleton “Pre-Draft”– Other ad-hoc subgroup results– Call for Proposals issued immediately after meeting with deadline
for submission of two weeks before the November meeting.• November 2004 (San Antonio, Texas)
– Presentation of Proposals• January 2005 (Monterey, California)
– Condensation of Proposals -> Draft 0.1• March 2005 (Atlanta, Georgia)
– Refinement of Draft• (May 2005 (Sydney, Australia)
– Letter Ballot Authorized?)
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Ad Hoc Subgroups andInternal TGs Actions
• Ad Hoc Subgroups– Have no special status unless TGs votes on them or their output.– Any group of 802.11 members can get together and make
submissions.• Within the Policies and Procedures (11-04/510r0), we can
do what we want internally:– “Adopted” internal TGs motions/documents can be amended by
majority with notice (i.e., if change is on agenda) or 2/3 vote without notice.
– We can issue a call for proposals• With no requirements other than the PAR & 5 Criteria• With some guidelines• With detailed requirements
– We can have “Functional Requirements Document” that is a general or specific as we like.
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Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups• Usage Cases – coordinator Steve Conner
<[email protected]>– “Usage Models”, 11-04/764r1 and 11-04/662r7
• Definitions – coordinator Tricci So <[email protected]>– “Draft Terms and Definitions for 802.11s”, 11-04/730r1
• Quality of Service / 802.11e – coordinator Lily Yang <[email protected]>– “MAC considerations for 11s”, 11-04/760r0
• Security / 802.11i, 802.1ae, 802.1af – coordinators Bob Moskowitz <[email protected]>, Jasmeet Chhabra <[email protected]>– “802.11s Security Ad Hoc”, 11-04/826r0
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Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups (cont.)• Routing – coordinator Tyan-Shu Jou
<[email protected]>– “802.11s Routing Sub-Group Discussion on May 04”, 11-
04/765r0
• Other– 802.11k, 802.11h /Radio Resources/Metrics – coordinator– WNM, CAPWAP /Management – coordinator
The above groups may be using the following wiki page:– http://ieee.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Ad
HocGroups
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Ad Hoc Subgroups Output
• Some Possible Dispositions of Ad Hoc Subgroup Output submissions (as amended if desired) are as for any other submissions:– Adopt as mandatory for proposal conformance– Adopt as an internal working document– Include in a TGs “Recommended Reading List”– No action
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Submission
Calling for Proposals in September?
• If a call for proposals is to be issued shortly after the September meeting, we should issue a warning at this meeting that we plan to do that.
• Proposals obviously must conform to the PAR and 5 Criteria.
• Will we have a Functional Requirements or Evaluation Criteria Document?
• What other documents, if any, should be referenced by the Call for Proposals?
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Possibilities to Accelerate TGs
• Possibilities for TGs Between July and September Meetings to accelerate action :– One Teleconference– Ad-hoc face to face meeting (requires 30 days
notice (P&P clause 3.6.2))– Multiple Teleconferences (require 10 days
notice, cannot be held more often than weekly (P&P clause 3.6.3))
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Possible Liaison
• 802.15.5 is working on mesh across the 802.15.2/3/4 protocols.
• Do we want a liaison with them?• Is there someone willing to serve?
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Informational Queries / Straw PollsProposers?
• If a TGs call for proposals was issued right after the September meeting with a deadline shortly before the November meeting, how many would submit a proposal?– Reasonably certain– 50/50– Might but probably not
• If call was issued after November meeting with deadline before the January meeting?
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Informational Queries / Straw PollsUsage Cases
• Is documenting Usage Cases important?
• Is each category important?– Residential– Office– Campus/Community/Public Access– Public Safety– Car to Car
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Informational Queries / Straw PollsInformal Group Submissions Status
• What should be the status of relevant submissions from informal groups if a majority of TGs agrees with the submission?– Strongly included as part of call for proposals– Adopted as internal working documents– Included on a TGs recommended reading list– No special status
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Informational Queries / Straw PollsWhen to call for Proposals?
• What is the current feeling of TGs as to when we should call for proposals?– July 2004– September 2004– November 2004– January 2005
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Future Schedule?• September 2004 (Berlin, German)
– Adopt Functional Requirements / Evaluation Criteria document?– Usage Cases and Requirements– Routing and QoS– Security– Defintions– Skeleton “Pre-Draft”– Call for Proposals issued immediately after meeting with deadline for
submission of two weeks before the November meeting?• November 2004 (San Antonio, Texas)
– Presentation of Proposals• January 2005 (Monterey, California) Condensation of Proposals ->
Draft 0.1• March 2005 (Atlanta, Georgia) Refinement of Draft• May 2005 (Sydney, Australia) Letter Ballot Authorized?
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Submission
Informational Queries / Straw PollsActivity Before September
• How active should the task group be before the September meeting?– No official activity– One teleconference– Multiple teleconferences– Face-to-face ad hoc meeting
