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1 Trust Me I’m a CMO and other things your CFO doesn’t want to hear James Thomas CMO Allocadia @Thomas_44 Bryan Semple CMO Smartbear Software @VK_Bryan “Trust Me, I’m a CMO…”

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Page 1: “Trust Me, - MarketingProfs · •CMO, Allocadia •VP Marketing, Talemetry •VP Product Marketing, SAP •VP Product Management BusinessObjects •Product Manager, Crystal Decisions

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Trust Me I’m a CMO and other things your CFO doesn’t want to hear

James

Thomas

CMO

Allocadia

@Thomas_44

Bryan

Semple

CMO

Smartbear Software

@VK_Bryan

“Trust Me,

I’m a CMO…”

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James Thomas • CMO, Allocadia

• VP Marketing, Talemetry

• VP Product Marketing, SAP

• VP Product Management BusinessObjects

• Product Manager, Crystal Decisions

MarTech Stackie Award

Best MarTech Company

@ JThomas_44

Bryan Semple • CMO, SmartBear Software

• Instructor, MarketingProfs

• CMO, VKernal (acquired by Dell)

• VP Marketing, Onaro (acquired by NetApp)

• Egnera, FairMarket, Trellix, Sybase

@ VK_Bryan

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1. Context – making marketing count

2. The CFO/CMO relationship

3. Changing the conversation

Q&A

Agenda TL;DR

Have the right answer to

the CFO’s questions.

“Trust me” doesn’t cut it.

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A CMO walks into a board meeting…

Bryan: James: Board meeting

[Insert story – focus on pain point / emotion] In today’s world marketers must make every dollar count.

More

responsibility

More

channels

Changing

Buyer habits

More

complexity

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In today’s world marketers must make every dollar count. $290,000,000,000

- Marketing spend in 2016

“Third consecutive year of

marketing budget increases…” – Gartner 2016-2017 survey

Mo’ money,

mo’ problems.

Marketing is no longer

a pure spending game.

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In today’s world marketers must make every dollar count. Marketers must understand

what’s working and what’s not,

and prove business impact.

WHY CMO + CFO ALIGNMENT IS CRITICAL

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“So, where is

your marketing

budget going,

exactly?”

• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

The average

CMO’s tenure is

half that of other

executives.

Source: 2016 Korn Ferry study

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It’s not just about budget.

Ally in the boardroom

Shared obligation to support the business

Bi-directional relationship

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• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

Set the Right Expectations

Marketing

contribution

0% 100%

• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

High-performing firms are

3X more likely to align Marketing and Finance

Static / flat Expecting revenueincreases

0%

10%

20%

30%

40%

50%

60% 57%

27%

- Allocadia 2017 Marketing Performance Management

Benchmark Maturity Study

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(REALLY?)

THE STATE OF THE

CMO / CFO RELATIONSHIP

• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

Only 14% of

Marketing

organizations see

Finance as a trusted,

strategic partner…

- Allocadia 2017 Marketing Performance Management Benchmark Maturity Study

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CHANGING THE CONVERSATION

• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact. WHAT we measure

HOW we measure &

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#INBOUND17

Only 21% of marketers

are able to point all

measurements to

Marketing’s contribution

to revenue.

- Allocadia 2017 Marketing Performance Management Benchmark Maturity Study

Only 6% of marketers

feel their measurements

help determine the next

best marketing action.

- Allocadia 2017 Marketing Performance Management Benchmark Maturity Study

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Revenue isn’t everything.

What we think the

CFO cares about

What they really care

about

What they definitely

DON’T care about

Revenue sourced Budget variance / accuracy Headcount

Pipeline sourced CAC ratios (SaaS) Program / channel dollar spend

Pipeline influenced Balance with corporate objectives Vanity metrics (social followers)

Cost of marketing

Webinar registrants

Sales metrics (MQL, SAL)

Press mentions

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Business Value

Metrics

Programmatic ROI

Hitting Spend Plan

Waste and Fraud

Contract / Legal Compliance

CFO + CMO

TRIANGLE OF TRUST

Business Value

Metrics

Programmatic ROI

Hitting Spend Plan

Waste and Fraud

Contract / Legal Compliance

CFO + CMO

TRIANGLE OF TRUST

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Business Value

Metrics

Programmatic ROI

Hitting Spend Plan

Waste and Fraud

Contract / Legal Compliance

CFO + CMO

TRIANGLE OF TRUST

Business Value

Metrics

Programmatic ROI

Hitting Spend Plan

Waste and Fraud

Contract / Legal Compliance

CFO + CMO

TRIANGLE OF TRUST

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Business Value

Metrics

Programmatic ROI

Hitting Spend Plan

Waste and Fraud

Contract / Legal Compliance

CFO + CMO

TRIANGLE OF TRUST

• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

ATTRIBUTION INVESTMENT

PLANNING

“What did this Marketing

activity do for me?”

“Where should I invest

budget dollars to drive

the most impact?”

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Business Value

Metrics

Programmatic ROI

Hitting Spend Plan

Waste and Fraud

Contract / Legal Compliance

CFO + CMO

TRIANGLE OF TRUST

Avoid Focus on

What did I get for my spend? What is working and what is not?

Is marketing pulling its weight? How can Marketing impact the

business tomorrow?

What have you done for me lately? Where should we spend our next $?

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Let’s talk about

marketing

program spend…

Let’s talk about

CAC by product…

FROM: TO:

HOW TO GET THERE

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82% use spreadsheets for critical operations:

Planning Budgeting Measuring

Marketing Performance Management

2017 #Stackies

Award Winner

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MSFT Tech Stack

2017 #Stackies Award Winner

The Wild West of Marketing investment data.

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• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

Be the best source of spending

information.

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• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact. Be the best source of spending information.

• Marketers must understand what’s working and what’s not.

And prove business impact.

Marketers Must Run Marketing

Like a Business

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5 ways to improve the CFO/CMO relationship:

1. Lead with data

2. Speak the language of the business

3. Do what you say – spend to plan

4. Give visibility

5. Act like a strategic partner

Ask me anything at the Post-Presentation Huddle!

2017 Marketing Performance

Management Benchmark Study

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