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ukedchat Archive 22 Nov 2012Hosted by @urban_teacher

What is an appropriate ICT curriculum?

20:00:12 ukedchatIt’s 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @urban_teacher –‘What is an appropriate ICT curriculum?’

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20:01:07 thechrissyt An appropriate ICT curriculum should not includeschemes of work that I was taught in primary school...I'mqualified for 3 yrs too!#ukedchat

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20:01:13 Romaaddictrelevant, engaging, challenging - requiring higher order thinking, independence, adaptability #ukedchat

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20:02:22 urban_teacher @thechrissyt Good point #ukedchat

20:02:27 Sarah__wright1@ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat one whichencourages, enables and enthuses pupils towards ICTskills that are useable in the real world!

20:02:38 urban_teacher RT @Sarah__wright1: @ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat one which encourages, enables andenthuses pupils towards ICT skills that are use ...

20:03:02 eslweb@Romaaddict Not much at all then... Sounds like a goodmantra for all subjects. #ukedchat

20:03:13 urban_teacher @Sarah__wright1 Preparing students for the real world!#ukedchat

20:03:18 Wonderacademy#ukedchat Curriculum must promote the use of free techand expertise in social media

20:03:19 MrsPTeach#ukedchat It should include the opportunity to exploreprogrammes that the children a) need to use, b) ask touse and c) will find enjoyable

20:03:40 cherrylkd #ukedchat An appropriate ICT curriculum should

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prepare students for the world of work they're about to join and not Last century's world.

20:03:49 Sarah__wright1RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat Curriculum mustpromote the use of free tech and expertise in social

media20:03:59 urban_teacher

Is computer science and programming appropriate?#ukedchat

20:04:01 darrenludlamRT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat An appropriate ICTcurriculum should prepare students for the world of workthey're about to join and not Last ...

20:04:29 ginamarieglenn the opportunity to explore new things #ukedchat

20:04:31 kerry_lou2001@Sarah__wright1 @ukedchat @urban_teacher and onewhich can be embedded in your cross-curricular work

#ukedchat It's all about purpose!

20:04:48 mikallaaneRT @MrsPTeach: #ukedchat It should include theopportunity to explore programmes that the children a)need to use, b) ask to use and c) ...

20:04:54 MrG_ICT A curriculum that adapts to new technology and skillsneeded. #ukedchat

20:05:07 callmepolly#ukedchat really enjoying the rising stars schemes of work - y5 incl. blogging and video editing so far

20:05:08 MrAColley#ukedchat I like @chrisleach78's definition. ICT =

Innovate Create Tinker 20:05:19 aangeli @urban_teacher ABSOLUTELY #ukedchat

20:05:21 urban_teacher @ginamarieglenn How can that be measured in schoolterms? #ukedchat

20:05:24 mikallaaneRT @kerry_lou2001: @Sarah__wright1 @ukedchat@urban_teacher and one which can be embedded inyour cross-curricular work #ukedchat It's a ...

20:05:35 Sarah__wright1@urban_teacher exactly! ICT should primarily be aboutconnecting with others and learning from them! Peoplelearn from people! #UkEdchat

20:05:41 IamStephReedan appropriate ICT curriculum must incorporate up todate technology #ukedchat

20:05:45 tmeeky ICT seems the wrong acronym, doesn't it? #ukedchat

20:05:46 thechrissytChildren teach themselves to use the softwarenowadays that they need to be taught HOW to createthis software rather than use it! #ukedchat

20:05:48 Sarah__wright1RT @kerry_lou2001: @Sarah__wright1 @ukedchat@urban_teacher and one which can be embedded inyour cross-curricular work #ukedchat It's a ...

20:05:51 SheliBB “@mikallaane: hav been discharged frm hospital lookin

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4ward 2 #ukedchat & #DLChat”Wow! Fab news!

20:05:53 eslweb

Current plan is for there to be three strands to new ICTCurriculum. #ukedchat

Digital Literacy, ICT &Computer Sciencehttp://t.co/MuLt8602

20:05:59 bekblayton

Our pupils won't leave school for 10yrs! Think howrapidly tech can change in that time...Experimentation&adaptation are needed!#ukedchat

20:06:13 Biolady99RT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat An appropriate ICTcurriculum should prepare students for the world of workthey're about to join and not Last ...

20:06:14 andrew_cowley23 #ukedchat ICT curriculum. About time it was updated.Have you seen QCA! Some schools still using that. Wehave y3 conversant in Office!

20:06:14 aangeliRT @MrG_ICT: A curriculum that adapts to newtechnology and skills needed. #ukedchat

20:06:22 MrsPTeachRT @callmepolly: #ukedchat really enjoying the risingstars schemes of work - y5 incl. blogging and videoediting so far

20:06:23 kerry_lou2001#Ukedchat The curriculum should regularly be updatedto fit current trends.

20:06:25 WonderacademyRT @Sarah__wright1: @ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat one which encourages, enables andenthuses pupils towards ICT skills that are use ...

20:06:29 DebbieHolley1#ukedchat children need to be able to learn more thanwe know

20:06:44 MrAColley@thechrissyt Really? I think ICT teaches them how touse is discerningly. #ukedchat

20:06:51 IamStephReed I plan for the use of ICT in all other subjects #ukedchat

20:07:15 nct78I completely agree “@kerry_lou2001 #ukedchat and onewhich can be embedded in your cross-curricular work#ukedchat It's all about purpose!”

20:07:16 bekblayton@urban_teacher yep, programming is a must.#ukedchat

20:07:21 urban_teacher The curriculum needs to equip students with ICT toolsand not tick box government agendas? #ukedchat

20:07:36 MrsPTeach@thechrissyt So it's more about introducing them to thesoftware (i.e signposting them to it) and giving the timeto explore. #ukedchat

20:07:42 CarrotyCarrots RT @ukedchat: Join @urban_teacher in 10 minutes

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@8pm to discuss ‘What is an appropriate ICTcurriculum?’ #ukedchat

20:08:03 DebbieHolley1@eslweb #ukedchat this sounds like a plan will it still getembedded across a wider curriculum?

20:08:07 MrAColley#ukedchat ICT can play a key role in developingresilience. You will get stuck, now how are you going todeal with it?

20:08:08 Romaaddictlots of great KS2 material #rethinkingict #risingstars.KS3 seems more problematic? #ukedchat

20:08:13 suttoneditor @urban_teacher Yes to KS4+5. Embrace concepts atKS3. Not sure if teachers and kids are ready or able yet.#ukedchat

20:08:15

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RT @TeacherToolkit: "Words for teenagers" via

@BillWatkin (SSAT) from John Tapene (Headteacher NZ) #SLTchat #ukedchat http://t.co/DGLW8x9V

20:08:30 Mrs___FProgramming. This is an expectation to be delivered.Ideas for staff development please? #ukedchat

20:08:36 ginamarieglenn@urban_teacher using up to date and using newtechnology but allowing students to explore #ukedchat

20:08:42 eslweb@DebbieHolley1 The curriculum itself doesn't determinehow it gets taught. Just the content. #ukedchat

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@johnmayo

Definitely. There's a lot on the Miranda network about itin the last few days. #edchatie #ukedchat

20:09:06 mattbritland#ukedchat it's important to understand not all studentswill go in the same direction. ICT needs to prepare kidsfor all possibilities.

20:09:10 DHESolutionsLtd@urban_teacher Well gov agendas should be relevantand appropriate too...then ticking them would be a goodthing. #ukedchat

20:09:12 Emmk30RT @kerry_lou2001: #Ukedchat The curriculum shouldregularly be updated to fit current trends.

20:09:37 tmeekyI don't think it's about tools and software (these will permchng)... I think it's more about concepts and purposes(more stable) #ukedchat

20:09:42 DebbieHolley1@MrAColley #ukedchat agree resilience and problemsolving needed

20:09:51 EdNewsorgWill parent cyberbullying force young UK teachers out of the classroom? http://t.co/V6ABZBWu #ukedchat#edchat #education

20:09:52 Sarah__wright1 RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat it's important to

understand not all students will go in the same direction.

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ICT needs to prepare kids for a ...

20:09:59 urban_teacher Specialised ICT i.e Programming and Computer Scienceor Generic ICT Microsoft office and emails...#ukedchat

20:10:17 Romaaddict

interactivity of #scratch#codeacademy#tryruby allow

non-experts to at least introduce programg to their students. Learn with them! #ukedchat

20:10:18 tmeekyI think problem finding needs to come before problemsolving #ukedchat

20:10:42 MrBirminghamICT@urban_teacher #ukedchat to an extent yes, but notoverkill.

20:10:54 MrBirminghamICTRT @urban_teacher: The curriculum needs to equipstudents with ICT tools and not tick box governmentagendas? #ukedchat

20:10:57 DHESolutionsLtd @tmeeky Agree - considering what is the purpose is agreat starting point for critical discussion of ICT#ukedchat

20:11:04 Mrs___FUnderstanding the rules of ESafety #CEOP has toembedded at every Key Stage. #ukedchat

20:11:34 MrAColleyWe need to intro CompSci and give pupils a taste. Noteveryone will be a poet but they should be exposed topoetry. #ukedchat

20:11:35

kerry_lou2001

#Ukedchat scarily we need to be able to prepare pupils

for work in a world using ICT that is yet to beinvented...mission impossible?

20:11:38 cherrylkd“@Mrs___F: Programming. This is an expectation to bedelivered. Ideas for staff development please?#ukedchat” <~ I agree.

20:11:39 mikallaaneteach kids 2 problem solve and give ICT resources tosolve it, let's Flip IT #ukedchat

20:11:41 DebbieHolley1RT @tmeeky: I think problem finding needs to comebefore problem solving #ukedchat

20:11:49 thechrissytICT in its current form can be taught throughout thecurriculum but we might need to introduce moreprogramming type things in ICT?#ukedchat

20:12 eslwebProgramming in curriculum, I'd say that #Scratch wouldbe fine for KeyStage 2 & most of Key Stage 3.#ukedchat

20:12:04 ukedchat#ukedchat topic reminder:‘What is an appropriate ICTcurriculum?’ with @urban_teacher

20:12:12 MrAColley@tmeeky Agreed, hence the expectation that pupils willget stuck. #ukedchat

20:12:16 thechrissyt @Mrs___F definitely #ukedchat

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20:12:25 callmepollyRT @MrAColley: #ukedchat ICT can play a key role indeveloping resilience. You will get stuck, now how areyou going to deal with it?

20:12:27 MrBirminghamICT

@urban_teacher #ukedchat ict should be a combo of

office, multimedia and theory with elements of computing - scratch/alice, html intro

20:12:38 DHESolutionsLtdOffice and emails will be covered across the curriculum#ukedchat

20:12:38 thechrissytRT @kerry_lou2001: #Ukedchat scarily we need to beable to prepare pupils for work in a world using ICT thatis yet to be invented...mis ...

20:12:46 WonderacademyRT @kerry_lou2001: #Ukedchat scarily we need to beable to prepare pupils for work in a world using ICT that

is yet to be invented...mis ...20:13:07 urban_teacher

RT @DHESolutionsLtd: Office and emails will becovered across the curriculum #ukedchat

20:13:07 DHESolutionsLtdHowever being specialised too soon might switch off children who won't necessarily become programmers. Adaptive is the key. #ukedchat

20:13:08 Romaaddict@tmeeky agree students (and we!) need to beadaptable and independent - transferrable skills a mustin rapidly changing work-place #ukedchat

20:13:29 mikallaane@urban_teacher All of the above, depends on theexperience of the kids #ukedchat

20:13:48 MrAColley@thechrissyt Not sure I agree with that statement. Theyget time at home to use pens but it may not make themgood writers. #ukedchat

20:14:02 ICTmagic@MrBirminghamICT What kind of hardware to softwareratio should be taught? #ukedchat

20:14:08 urban_teacher #ukedchat topic reminder:‘What is an appropriate ICTcurriculum?’ with @urban_teacher

20:14:13 DebbieHolley1 @mikallaane #ukedchat flipped sounds great idea -...

20:14:18 davidhunter #Ukedchat what should year three chn be learning?Iteach email, blogging, story boarding, social media, useof publisher

20:14:24 tmeeky Appropriate ICT curric... broad in lower years, allow for some specialism in later yrs dep on students' interests#ukedchat

20:14:29 JulieTavender RT @eslweb: Programming in curriculum, I'd say that#Scratch would be fine for KeyStage 2 & most of Key Stage 3. #ukedchat

20:14:37 MrsPTeach #ukedchat There's SO much out there, but 'curriculum'

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implies a prescribed list.Should be ICTexploration,evaluation & invention.

20:14:58 eslwebI've found that programming in Scratch and other interactive experiences are what children like best.

#ukedchat Can be lots of fun!

20:15:02 mattbuxton10Care needed; lots of schools innovating downtablet/BYOD route x-curric & re dig lit, but not partfit-for-purpose re programming? #ukedchat

20:15:06 MrAColleyMy major issue is that everything that I want to cover would take 3+ hours per wk! #ukedchat

20:15:09 richardblaize#ukedchat - Getting cold shivers as Microsoft Officekeeps being mentioned. Other applications areavailable, lets not promote just one.

20:15:18 kevbartle Less than three days till I'm hosting this weeks #sltchat

If you're doing #ukedchat I'd love to see you there.

20:15:19 SheliBB

“@eslweb: Programming in curriculum, I'd say that#Scratch would be fine for KeyStage 2 & most of Key Stage 3. #ukedchat”+ kodu of course!

20:15:20 WonderacademyRT @davidhunter: #Ukedchat what should year threechn be learning?I teach email, blogging, story boarding,social media, use of publisher

20:15:30 matthewktabor @davidhunter Why not teach writing first, then integratetech? #ukedchat

20:15:32 andrew_cowley23#ukedchat ICT changes so quickly its focus needs to beon usage. Programming should be a separate subject.Even LOGO too basic now.

20:15:40 DavyhulmePSUsing Speaking and listening, ipads and football toengage reluctant boys to write lesson 2http://t.co/e477nYK5 #ipaded #ukedchat #teched

20:15:58 DavyhulmePS A fun, interactive and engaging way for children to learnabout prime numbers using iPads http://t.co/ga032y6R#ipaded #ukedchat #numeracy

20:15:58 thechrissyt@MrAColley true,but we model how to create goodwriters & our country is full of them.We needcreators of technology just as much? #ukedchat

20:16 mrbrightsidecit

RT @CaptainGove: ##ukedchat hear there's talk of anICT curriculum tonight. Forget it, it's yesterday's stuff.History is the future.

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20:16:12 mikallaane@davidhunter teach what they are ready to learn andapply in their learning, gr8 stuff #ukedchat

20:16:13 Mrs___F

RT @kevbartle: Less than three days till I'm hosting thisweeks #sltchat


20:16:17 tmeekywhatevr we teach in ICT needs to be interesting andpurposeful. This is diff for diff people... why go for 1 sizefits all? #ukedchat

20:16:20 mattbritlandRT @MrAColley: My major issue is that everything that Iwant to cover would take 3+ hours per wk! #ukedchat

20:16:23 kerry_lou2001@mikallaane agree - the number of pupils who findusing ICT to problem solve difficult is surprising, and too

often presumed #ukedchat

20:16:28 matthewktabor I've always thought a lot of ALICE for getting very youngkids into programming -- free, too http://t.co/xn0bW2MM#ukedchat

20:16:33 Lynnewin100RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat Curriculum mustpromote the use of free tech and expertise in socialmedia

20:16:46 candtalanRT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratchand other interactive experiences are what children likebest. #ukedchat Can be lots ...

20:16:59 urban_teacher Are jumping on the bandwagon of programming andcomputer science, while neglecting the basic ICT skillsand curriculum. #ukedchat

20:17:10 ICTmagic@MrBirminghamICT What about hardware like theRaspberry Pi? Does that have a place at KS3?#ukedchat

20:17:29 DavyhulmePSStill time to sign up for #globalclassroom Christmas somany rich learning possibilities! http://t.co/bubGZryJ#ukedchat #edchat

20:17:41 tmeeky why is comp sci and prog a dandwagon? #ukedchat

20:17:42 thechrissytRT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratchand other interactive experiences are what children likebest. #ukedchat Can be lots ...

20:17:43 Lynnewin100#ukedchat is the craze for iPads a bit of a red herring?We don't have much money.

20:17:52 cherrylkd@tmeeky Specialisms In later years. That's a good idea.Better than trying to master all ICT #ukedchat

20:18:04 bobharrisonset RT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratch

and other interactive experiences are what children like

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best. #ukedchat Can be lots ...

20:18:31 davidhunter @mikallaane agreed re what ready to learn.Btw I thinktouch typing should be high on the list.don't see qwertygoing anywhere soon #ukedchat

20:18:32 mikallaane @andrew_cowley23 for some yes, others no. My yr6sreally enjoy problem solving using Logo #ukedchat

20:18:42 ginamarieglenncurriculum and basic knowledge and skills are veryimportant #ukedchat

20:19:02 MrBirminghamICT@ICTmagic at this stage no.as extra curriculum, yes.#ukedchat i admit my knowledge of it isweak

20:19:05 andrew_cowley23#ukedchat Would like to see blogging podcasting moviemaking (stop frame) music uploading and contributing toschool website.

20:19:07 tmeeky @Lynnewin100 The fact u r wondering if ipads are redherrings is a good sign = considered thought... that's thekey #ukedchat

20:19:07 millsyblueThe only barriers to teaching of quality IT or ICT is theconfidence and skill of the teachers. The pupils willgrasp anything. #ukedchat

20:19:07 urban_teacher Apart from programming! What else is appropriate for anICT curriculum? #ukedchat

20:19:12

kerry_lou2001

@ICTmagic @mrbirminghamict And do you think

learning about some aspects of hardware should beintroduced in Primary school? #ukedchat

20:19:17 MrBirminghamICTRT @MrAColley: My major issue is that everything that Iwant to cover would take 3+ hours per wk! #ukedchat

20:19:30 matthewktabor US/UK ed person and employer's view: teachingtech/software is fast, cheap, easy. Teaching writing,other skills? Expensive, hard #ukedchat

20:19:36 chrisleach78RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78'sdefinition. ICT = Innovate Create Tinker

20:19:38 bobharrisonset@mattbuxton10 Agree, the latest draft of theprogrammes of study for new ICT National Curriculumwill need schools to teach it? #ukedchat

20:19:42 MrAColley@ginamarieglenn What is basic knowledge? How manybits in a byte? #ukedchat

20:19:45 Teachric#ukedchat ICT curriculum should be disbanded. ICTshould be part of every lesson and permeate throughschool

20:19:49 ICTEvangelist All good ICT curricula should have 3 strands: Digitalliteracy (using apps), Computer science (theory &

prac) & Digital learning. #UKEdChat

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20:19:53 rangRoseRT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratchand other interactive experiences are what children likebest. #ukedchat Can be lots ...

20:19:55 urban_teacher @millsyblue Good point! #ukedchat

20:19:55 andrew_cowley23 #ukedchat was there a sixth former who put teacher'scar on ebay or is that urban myth?

20:19:59 davidhunter @urban_teacher asking the children to turn their monitors off while I speak to them. #ukedchat oh, andbit.ly account to shorten links

20:20:06 kerry_lou2001@davidhunter I would love to use email with mine - if only they had a school email address! #ukedchat

20:20:09 DHESolutionsLtd@Lynnewin100 Absolutely - we've been seduced I think. A lot of investment in something that will date fast.

#ukedchat20:20:18 eslweb

@SheliBB Definitely! Kodu, Stencyl, Game Salad andGame Maker Studio too...All great tools! #ukedchat

20:20:20 Teachric#ukedchat no need to write a new curriculum. None of my students will be using powerpoint/excel when theyget a job

20:20:22 RomaaddictICT & Comp Programming belong together as doEnglish Literature and Language - can be appreciatedseparately but are complementary #ukedchat

20:20:38 mattbritland @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe and productive use of social networking sites and mobile devices.

20:20:45 mikallaane@davidhunter agree, my yr6s enjoy touch typing using 1of the Google Apps in their account. #ukedchat

20:20:54 C_Farr0w@urban_teacher basic understanding of components isfundamental #UkEdChat

20:20:56 MrsPTeach@davidhunter @mikallaane Great point re.touch typing.My class are doing it this term & they love that ithas such a purpose #ukedchat

20:21:15 mattbuxton10@cherrylkd @tmeeky Specialisms absolutely; some willwant 2 code & use logic, some will want 2 design& be creative (with x-overs) #ukedchat

20:21:16 darrenludlam An ICT Curriculum should include basic HTML. HTMLwill remain the foundation of the internet for some time#ukedchat

20:21:24 urban_teacher I used makeymakey in one of my lessons....studentswere amazed a can play pac man usingfruits....#ukedchat

20:21:27 davidhunter @kerry_lou2001 we bought a domain for cheap and

signed up with http://t.co/VxlvPXnA. You can set it to just

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internal as well. #ukedchat

20:21:29 tmeekykids shld be encouraged /facilitated to be competent todigest (eval after consume) BUT also create (using whtever is best) #ukedchat

20:21:36 urban_teacher RT @C_Farr0w: @urban_teacher basic understandingof components is fundamental #UkEdChat

20:21:45 urban_teacher RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safeand productive use of social networking sites and mobiledevices.

20:21:49 cherrylkd@Lynnewin100 #ukedchat Permanent fixture for myschool, but that's a red herring statement in itself aswe're special (as you know)

20:22:05 MrAColley@mattbritland Agreed. 'Best foot forward' online. We

can't teach 'head in the sand'. #ukedchat

20:22:19 mattbritlandRT @MrAColley: @mattbritland Agreed. 'Best footforward' online. We can't teach 'head in the sand'.#ukedchat

20:22:27 ICTmagicRT @urban_teacher: I used makeymakey in one of mylessons....students were amazed a can play pac manusing fruits....#ukedchat

20:22:32 millsyblueI like what I heard last week which was to have time inclass where pupils teach their teachers an aspect of ICTthat they know. #ukedchat

20:22:44 mattbritland @MrAColley #Ukedchat Spot on...lets embrace it.

20:22:51 davidhunter @mikallaane not seen that. dance mat typing is great. And ztype on chrome is an awesome game for older ones #ukedchat

20:22:51 JulieGibbings


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20:22:57 urban_teacher Appropriate ICT Curriculum results: Safety,Programming, web tools, inside a computer.....anythingelse #ukedchat

20:23:01 SheliBB

“@mattbritland: @eslweb Kodu is great...very popular with my students.”I love it and enjoy getting DLs to problem solve with it#ukedchat

20:23:12 MrAColleyIt's possible to make even spreadsheets creative. Here'smy SOW http://t.co/fSGqrLkI #ukedchat

20:23:28 ICTmagic @MrsPTeach Very important to use a range of activities

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to keep it fresh though. @davidhunter @mikallaane#ukedchat

20:23:36 davidhunter @MrsPTeach @mikallaane demonstrate your skills onztype on Google chrome. They'll live you forever

#ukedchat

20:23:40 MrsPTeach@urban_teacher Touch typing should betaught/practised like handwriting.I mean,how much dopeople (except teachers) write by hand? #ukedchat

20:23:47 SheliBB@eslweb game salad?! Going to have to google thatright now! #ukedchat

20:23:48 thechrissytI would like to see much better programmes to developskills in website building... #ukedchat

20:23:53 mattbritland@urban_teacher #Ukedchat Computing history? Where

have we come from? How did we get here?

20:24:02 cherrylkd@davidhunter @mikallaane Do m/stream teach touchtyping? Think they should as its such a time saver #ukedchat

20:24:22 ICTmagicHow does social media fit into the 'acceptable' ICTcurriculum? #ukedchat

20:24:23 Teachric#ukedchat no on e taught me how to use a computer - Iworked it out myself. No need to teach HTML code etc -will all be dated (cont)

20:24:34 bobharrisonset @ICTEvangelist definition of ICT for new NationalCurriculum is 3 inter-related strands of DigitalLiteracy,IT, ComputerScience #ukedchat

20:24:35 eslweb@MrAColley My year 7's like the fact that they can use'grown up' tools with Spreadsheets. They're super calculators! #ukedchat

20:24:37 davidhunter @ICTmagic @MrsPTeach @mikallaane #ukedchatgives such access to the test of ICT curriculum though#ukedchat

20:25:04 cathy_crossRT @MrAColley: #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78'sdefinition. ICT = Innovate Create Tinker

20:25:04 Teachric#ukedchat people don't need to justify their jobs byteaching whatever they can find. There is no need for old people telling young (cont)

20:25:10 DHESolutionsLtd Appropriate to learn how to research online and how toevaluate online sources. #ukedchat

20:25:18 tmeekyI don't think students grasp everything. .. video recorder prog scenario is myth. They need expert guidance to gobeyond basics #ukedchat

20:25:20 kerry_lou2001 @matthewktabor haven't heard of this - will be checking

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this out - thanks #ukedchat

20:25:22 suttoneditor @MrsPTeach @urban_teacher Kids are stunned by myability to touch-type. They just don't see how it'spossible! #ukedchat

20:25:28 davidhunter @cherrylkd @mikallaane exactly. I do but there isn't thatmuch emphasis #ukedchat

20:25:39 ICTEvangelist“@urban_teacher: RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe and productive use of SM & mobiledevices.” Agree totally. Within DLit.

20:25:48 Teachric#ukedchat people to use ICT/new technology. In fact, itis hilariously arrogant we think we can.

20:25:55 MrsPTeach@ICTmagic @davidhunter @mikallaane 1 term, 30minsa week and you will have perfect touch typists-minimal

time, a life long skill. #ukedchat20:25:56 urban_teacher software and hardware very useful.........#ukedchat

20:26:21 davidhunter @mrsdonaldson82 the curriculum usually begs tip differ.I'm talking average year three of course #ukedchat

20:26:25 mikallaane @thechrissyt why? #ukedchat

20:26:39 bekblayton@Lynnewin100 iPads as a brand? maybe, but fastmobile tech that facilitates collaboration&combinesmany tools is the game changer #ukedchat

20:26:40 DHESolutionsLtd Also video editing essential. The software doesn't matter

but the concepts are important. #ukedchat

20:26:49 ICTmagic@SheliBB When will you learn the the some of allhuman (ICT) knowledge is on my wiki!http://t.co/0C1pkdC1 @eslweb #ukedchat

20:26:51 tmeekytouch typing life long skill until we don't interface viak/boards?? will that be the case? #ukedchat

20:27:01 millsyblueI love #Edmodo as way of teaching primary pupils safesocial media and also as a way of encouragingindependent thinking/learning. #ukedchat

20:27:02 urban_teacher How do we make the curriculum appropriate for inner city kids? is it the same generic approach? #ukedchat

20:27:08 MrAColley@eslweb Perfect example of how a slightly differentangle of approach can make a topic appealing!#ukedchat #skills #stealingthatidea :)

20:27:10 MrsPTeach@suttoneditor @urban_teacher Mine were too, until theystarted practising on BBC dance mat typing game andrealised they could! #ukedchat

20:27:27 samthewestieRT @MrAColley: @mattbritland Agreed. 'Best footforward' online. We can't teach 'head in the sand'.#ukedchat

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20:27:33 davidhunter @bobdbob good idea. Ms word could be friendlier in thisregard tho #ukedchat

20:27:44 IamStephReedit's mind blowing to think what technology will beavailable in 10+years time... #ukedchat

20:27:45 samthewestieRT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safeand productive use of social networking sites and mobiledevices.

20:27:54 mattbuxton10@mattbritland @urban_teacher Great point re history of computing in ICT PofS; to understand anything u need abit of its history #ukedchat

20:27:55 MrsPTeach@suttoneditor @urban_teacher I had them putting apiece of A4 paper over their hands (like my pianoteacher used 2)!They loved it! #ukedchat

20:28:08 ICTmagic @MrsPTeach I agree and I get my children to learn inthe 1st term as well. @davidhunter @mikallaane#ukedchat

20:29:06 mattbritland@mattbuxton10 @urban_teacher You don't know whereyou're going, unless you know where you have comefrom. :-) #Ukedchat

20:29:29 chrisleach78 #ukedchat check out http://t.co/O7B6FURl :)

20:29:46 eslweb@tmeeky It's a good question, but typing like Englishspelling is very resistant to change. Lots of changessuggested over years.#ukedchat

20:29:47 groganbeeRT @urban_teacher: I used makeymakey in one of mylessons....students were amazed a can play pac manusing fruits....#ukedchat

20:29:48 samthewestie@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat spot on … many teachersneed a few classes too

20:29:50 aangeli@urban_teacher why would it be different for inner city?#UKEdChat

20:29:50 aangeli@urban_teacher why would it be different for inner city?#UKEdChat

20:29:52 bekblayton@urban_teacher surely that’s down to school leaders?To adapt for context? #ukedchat

20:30:22 MrAColleyThe expectation should be that all the s/ware will be diff when they're older. It's how they apply prob finding& solving skills #ukedchat

20:30:27 urban_teacher We are halfway through the discussion on #ukedchat join in!

20:30:32 cherrylkd#ukedchat Teach very young children to experiment asthey are unlikely to break it, self discovery is best way to

learn ICT skills

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20:30:34 CarrotyCarrotsChildren need to have access to blogs / other socialmedia and taught how to use it responsibly, should notbe banned in sch #ukedchat

20:30:39 mikallaane@IamStephReed holograms straight out the palm of our

hands #ukedchat20:30:44 ginamarieglenn @millsyblue edmodo is a great tool! #ukedchat

20:30:47 mattbritland#ukedchat We also need to be clever in the way wedeliver. Some teachers have very little curric time. Planwell and combine strands.

20:30:50 educationgovuk

RT @kevbartle: Less than three days till I'm hosting thisweeks #sltchat


20:31:29 urban_teacher RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat We also need to be clever in the way we deliver. Some teachers have very littlecurric time. Plan well and c ...

20:31:40 urban_teacher @mattbritland Good point! #ukedchat

20:31:54 MrG_ICTCurriculum designed by you guys #ukedchat Maybe westart and update wiki with examples and ideas.We leadthe way not Gove.

20:31:55 mattbuxton10@bobharrisonset @ICTEvangelist Works, esp if kid getschance to 'major' in one strand later on in KS4/5, or evenearlier I guess?? #ukedchat

20:32:03 CarrotyCarrotsICT should be embedded in all subjects, but it shouldalso be taught explicitly so children have the knowledgeto transfer. #ukedchat

20:32:14 MrsPTeachRT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat Teach very young children toexperiment as they are unlikely to break it, self discoveryis best way to learn I ...

20:32:21 ICTEvangelist@bobharrisonset #UKEdChat agree completely. And begiven more than one lesson a week to deliver a qualitycurric in an important subject.

20:32:30 ginamarieglennI would use the same approach for the inner city kids asyou used on the other students. #ukedchat

20:32:35 thechrissytRT @IamStephReed: it's mind blowing to think whattechnology will be available in 10+years time...#ukedchat

20:32:55 DHESolutionsLtd@CarrotyCarrots Agreed. A YouTube ban blocks greatresource like http://t.co/pWctYhDC (archive of oralhistory). Short sighted! #ukedchat

20:33 thechrissyt @IamStephReed digital paper?! #ukedchat20:33:01 urban_teacher So where do we see the ICT heading? #ukedchat

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20:33:19 RustyRLRT @Teachric: #ukedchat ICT curriculum should bedisbanded. ICT should be part of every lesson andpermeate through school

20:33:26 ICTEvangelist

@mattbuxton10 @bobharrisonset #UKEdChat

Developer vs User pathways at KS4/5 is a great ideanicked from @LessonHacker

20:33:38 millsybluePerhaps we also need to be thinking about parents. Dowe need to minimise scepticism and fear so that we canuse IT even more? #ukedchat

20:33:47 davidhunter @tmeeky can't see some form of keyboard change for aLONG time #ukedchat

20:33:47 MrAColleyI think an effective #ictcurric should ditch levels. They'remeaningless for the majority of pupils. #openbadges or

similar please #ukedchat20:34:08 MrBirminghamICT

@urban_teacher totally computer science if Gove hashis way.... The wrong way #ukedchat

20:34:26 eslweb@davidhunter @tmeeky If you look the history you'llnotice a lot of attempts and little success. #ukedchathttp://t.co/9F5l1r3C

20:34:27 urban_teacher Do we need Mobile Phones, Tablets and Web Apps tomake ICT appropriate? #ukedchat

20:34:28 mattbuxton10@mattbritland Yes, esp if IT content can be created'fluid' enough to allow x-curric; ie kid doing Geog KS4design a Geog-reld app #ukedchat

20:34:29 DHESolutionsLtdWhat about ICT and family learning? Should parents becoming in to school for ICT refreshers with their children? #ukedchat

20:35:20 alecwatersRT @MrBirminghamICT: @urban_teacher totallycomputer science if Gove has his way.... The wrong way#ukedchat

20:35:20 andrew_cowley23#ukedchat when I began in 90s it was obvious then thatkids were ahead of us. A curric of adaptable applicableand flexible skills needed!

20:35:27 MrAColley@RustyRL @teachric Learning tech (or whatever youwant to call it) should permeate school. ICT should be aseparate subject. #ukedchat

20:35:31 DHESolutionsLtd@MrAColley Agree. #openbadges starting within schoolis in line with changes that lie ahead I think. Same for online CVs. #ukedchat

20:35:32 mtrickett1990RT @MrG_ICT: Curriculum designed by you guys#ukedchat Maybe we start and update wiki with

examples and ideas.We lead the way not Gove.

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20:35:32 mattbritland@millsyblue #Ukedchat I have ran seminars for parents2 give them an idea what there kids maybe doing onlineand how they can use their tech

20:35:35 MrsPTeach

@davidhunter @tmeeky Changing the keyboard would

be like changing the alphabet!? Typing is habit likespelling for most people. #ukedchat

20:35:41 samthewestiewe also have to understand at times students may wellknow more than us part of it has to be letting class gowith it #ukedchat

20:35:47 acampbell99

Why Khan Academy Is The Wrong Answer http://t.co/sohwNkwq #UKEdchat #Flipclass #BCed#abed #SaskEd #ManEd #EdTech #CanEd #OntEd#EdChat

20:35:48 CarrotyCarrots @DHESolutionsLtd A YouTube ban would be my worstnightmare! Only just managed to get Twitter unblockedfor teachers, however! #ukedchat

20:35:58 davidhunter @eslweb @tmeeky trouble with voice recognition isother people can hear you. I'm typing on Swype.it'sgreat.still need qwerty tho #ukedchat

20:36 richardblaize@DHESolutionsLtd - Yes defiantly, our ICT familylearning sessions are often over subscribed. #ukedchat

20:36:11 groganbee"@MrAColley: #openbadges or similar please#ukedchat" couldn't agree more!!

20:36:19 thechrissyt@mattbuxton10 I think app design could be a great stepforward #ukedchat

20:36:50 mattbritland@urban_teacher #Ukedchat We should embracewhatever technology is relevant in my opinion. Def theway ahead.

20:36:56 EdNewsorgGreat point by @JuliaSteiny -- giving thanks, beinggracious should be '21st century skills'http://t.co/O1iWGhSs #ukedchat #edchat

20:36:59 tmeeky@eslweb maybe but I'm not sure. Thing is tch type isimportnt for some (mainly non thinking roles) not manyothers. #ukedchat

20:37:02 eslweb@davidhunter @tmeeky I find my old Nokia faster totype on than an iPhone or Android phone Touch Screen.#ukedchat Predictive text got good.

20:37:05 djphillips1408@andrew_cowley23 really I very rarely see kids that areahead and I work boys grammar. If anything skills seemto be worse #ukedchat

20:37:13 richardblaize

@samthewestie - And a whole class resounds great to

thinking the know more than the teacher #ukedchat

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20:37:21 millsyblue@mattbritland Got to be the way. I often get questionsand 'generalisations' as to how dangerous web basedapps are. #misguided #ukedchat

20:37:23 mattbuxton10

RT @ICTEvangelist: @mattbuxton10 @bobharrisonset

#UKEdChat Developer vs User pathways at KS4/5 is agreat idea nicked from @LessonHacker

20:37:29 matthewktabor The best ICT plan? Solid reading, writing, numeracy,thinking. The tech part's easy after that. #ukedchat

20:37:31 mikallaane@millsyblue Yes we do, and for them not to just say 'Godo your homework' #ukedchat

20:37:38 MissJLudLesson on genre.They're writing conventions of a genreas a recipe.Need help to stretch it.How can you thinkdeeply about genre? #ukedchat

20:37:43 DHESolutionsLtd Pupils online footprint is key. We need to help studentscreate appropriate public profiles and awareness of searches by employers #ukedchat

20:37:47 IamStephReed @groganbee i'll check it out! #ukedchat

20:37:48 suttoneditor @urban_teacher Anything that enhances learningshould be considered. Gimmicks vs latest techdevelopment? #ukedchat

20:37:54 cherrylkd@DHESolutionsLtd Yes, parents could learn alongsidetheir children & see its more than games and FB#ukedchat

20:37:57 MrAColley@mtrickett1990 @mrg_ICT Check out the #ictcurricmoodle and #digitalstudies & #rethinkingict wikis if you haven't already #ukedchat

20:38:16 urban_teacher ‘What is an appropriate ICT curriculum?’ #ukedchat

20:38:17 bobharrisonset@LessonHacker Of course if you are an Academy,Freeor Public school you do not have to follow NC and teachwhat you like:) #ukedchat

20:38:27 eslweb@tmeeky There's a lot of arguments. I doubt TouchTyping will be in #ICTcurric Could be in English curric.#ukedchat

20:38:31 mattbritland@urban_teacher #Ukedchat Indeed it is...I supposethat's what makes our jobs so exciting and different.(And stressful) :-)

20:38:37 tmeeky@MrsPTeach just not sure tch typing is best use of timeat schl when a lot more cld be happening at higher levelof thinking #ukedchat

20:38:37 AndyIDoneChase scene descriptive recordings on @audioboohttp://t.co/ibhXf7Pp Recognise the pictures

@DeputyMitchell ? #comments4kids #ukedchat

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20:38:42 MrBirminghamICT#ukedchat how do people promote independence inict??

20:38:47 TeacherToolkit

“@Renieloud: @TeacherToolkit 5 min lesson planhttp://t.co/WF09kZHT #ukedchat”

The #5MinPlan reaches Australia.

20:38:48 ICTEvangelist“@MrAColley: #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78’s . ICT =Innovate Create Tinker” we use innovative, creativetechnology as our strap line.

20:38:50 CarrotyCarrotsHow many of you use blogs in your school? Great wayto share, children to get feedback on their work and toteach e-safety #ukedchat

20:38:59

aangeli

RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat We

should embrace whatever technology is relevant in myopinion. Def the way ahead.

20:39:05 urban_teacher RT @cherrylkd: @DHESolutionsLtd Yes, parents couldlearn alongside their children & see its more thangames and FB #ukedchat

20:39:09 ClaireJoanneICT@MrBirminghamICT @alecwaters @urban_teacher As itis now plus Computer Science? #ukedchat

20:39:10 thechrissyt@djphillips1408 surely it's something to aspire tothough? So many careers being made out of them?#ukedchat

20:39:11 nct78RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat it's important tounderstand not all students will go in the same direction.ICT needs to prepare kids for a ...

20:39:21 robertd1981The UPS http://t.co/wLMidgYq blog has been taken over by Digital Leaders.Do as they say and help us regaincontrol! Pls RT #dlchat #ukedchat

20:40:02 bekblayton@tmeeky @MrsPTeach agreed, I think touch typing isan unnecessary distraction. #ukedchat

20:40:16 MrAColley@MrBirminghamICT I prefer to promoteinterdependence. Check out Berger's work on publiccritique. #ukedchat

20:40:17 tmeeky@davidhunter what's comf now, doesn't mean it's bestway to do something. you've had yrs of using a certapproach that's all #ukedchat

20:40:18 mattbritland@bobharrisonset @lessonhacker I think I read todaythat something like 48% of state schools are noacademies.Could have dreamt it #Ukedchat

20:40:24 MrAColley RT @ICTEvangelist: “@MrAColley: #ukedchat I like

@chrisleach78’s . ICT = Innovate Create Tinker” we use

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innovative, creative technology ...20:40:27 DHESolutionsLtd @groganbee Thanks for tip! #ukedchat

20:40:29 MrBirminghamICT@ClaireJoanneICT @alecwaters @urban_teacher should be 2 seperate subjects from KS4 #ukedchat

20:40:38 cherrylkd@CarrotyCarrots @dhesolutionsltd Same here! We've just got twitter & youtube unblocked. So manyvaluable resources are blocked #ukedchat

20:40:46 MrsPTeach@tmeeky We teach handwriting though? Typing is a)easier and so b) much quicker. 30mins a week for aterm = skill sorted for life #ukedchat

20:40:53 BeanyboyTruff


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20:41 suttoneditor @ICTEvangelist @MrAColley @chrisleach78 Innovationis much better than Information. I use that... #ukedchat

20:41:08 mattbritland@ICTEvangelist @mracolley @chrisleach78 I love that!#Ukedchat

20:41:10 mattbritlandRT @ICTEvangelist: “@MrAColley: #ukedchat I like@chrisleach78’s . ICT = Innovate Create Tinker” we useinnovative, creative technology ...

20:41:19 mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt But isn't it almost asimportant to be coming up with the concept for an appas it is coding it? #ukedchat

20:41:19 urban_teacher Are playing with words...Computer Science,Programming, Digital Literacy haven't we been teachingthese things all along? #ukedchat

20:41:21 DHESolutionsLtd@richardblaize Sounds great. What do you cover?Students and parents together? Day time or evening?#ukedchat

20:42:07 tmeeky@MrsPTeach OK. if u think many of ur kids will go ontoa prof where that's an essential skill, that's fair enough#ukedchat

20:42:23 MrAColley@mattbritland @ictevangelist @suttoneditor New signsall round chaps? #ukedchat

20:42:31 urban_teacher What do we need to do put ICT back on the Map ineducation and lets be realistic? #ukedchat

20:43 matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt Coding isver easy, cheaply learned vs the basic skills to makeproducts matter #ukedchat

20:43:08 davidhunter "@cherrylkd: Same here! We've just got twitter &

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youtube unblocked. So many valuable resources areblocked #ukedchat" #bloxx grrr

20:43:20 mattbritland@mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt I teach App design...not App coding. Kids love it and get very

creative. #Ukedchat

20:43:22 DCallanITBlock it culture has to be removed, if we don't teachthem how to cross the road safely they will never leavetheir own streets #ukedchat

20:43:31 ICTEvangelist@MrAColley @mattbritland @suttoneditor happy toshare my ppt template #UKEdChat

20:43:37 urban_teacher There are fundamental things that students need tolearn in ICT! Hardware, Software and CurrentTechnologies #ukedchat

20:43:55 bobharrisonset @redgierob understand the concern Rob, will need to bea glossary,explanatory notes and cpd to support thechange don't you think? #ukedchat

20:44:01 davidhunter @tmeeky yes, but we need kids using keyboards now#ukedchat

20:44:05 ClaireJoanneICT@MrBirminghamICT @alecwaters @urban_teacher What about in Primary Schools? Is Computer Sciencetoo difficult? #ukedchat

20:44:10 mattbritland @DCallanIT #Ukedchat Spot on!

20:44:15 Ginger_Non_Geek I believe programming can be accessible to everyone& encourages creativity #ukedchat #cas Other ICTskills are equally important though

20:44:16 thechrissyt@mattbritland @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 brilliant.What age do you do that with? Kids will always rise tothe expectations. #ukedchat

20:44:18 MrsPTeach@tmeeky I know they're going to have 7 more years (atleast) of education and a lifetime of communication inwhich they need it #ukedchat

20:44:23 Wonderacademy#ukedchat With a new 11-18 curriculum, ICT to beintegral to vocational or academic pathways

20:44:25 urban_teacher RT @ClaireJoanneICT: @MrBirminghamICT@alecwaters @urban_teacher What about in PrimarySchools? Is Computer Science too difficult? #ukedchat

20:44:40 bettybrowser RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Sa...: RT@mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe andprodu... http://t.co/wlFqwRxC #ssn

20:44:45 CreateMakeLearnSome great tools @Raspberry_Pi @AppsforGoodCDI@Historypin @scratchteam @OpenBadges all great

ingredients for ICT curriculum #ukedchat

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20:44:53 mattbritland@ICTEvangelist @mracolley @suttoneditor #UkedchatThat would be great.

20:45:19 MrWickensPE@3D4Medical You app iMuscle has been mentioned at#CLVPETM this evening for use within the #physed

classroom #ukedchat

20:45:22 tonycassidyRT @paulsturtivant: blog post - using jigsaw group workand mini whiteboards to teach hydrographs.http://t.co/bIID71nq #ukedchat #geogr ...

20:45:51 mattbuxton10@matthewktabor @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt Startthem with a pencil & a sketchbook, get themdesigning before building & coding #ukedchat

20:46:01 mattbritland@thechrissyt @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408#Ukedchat Year 7...it is not massively advanced. But we

do mocks up,learn about what tech we need

20:46:04 tmeeky@MrsPTeach the ability to tch type doesn't affect their ability to learn. can u tch type? my local gp can't, nor mymasters prof. #ukedchat

20:46:07 urban_teacher Are we running before we can walk? Computer scienceand programming..Are they other things that areappropriate for ICT? #ukedchat

20:46:18 DHESolutionsLtd@urban_teacher I think a lot of good work being done inthis direction now. Practical skills inc vid editing &web design. #ukedchat

20:46:37 matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt I'd goeven further back -- get them talking, asking, find outwhat people need, want #ukedchat

20:46:42 MrAColleyPut ICT back on the map? Get kids talking about it.#scratch has reinvigorated my KS3. More +ve parentsevening comments than ever #ukedchat

20:47:06 matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt That's thefunny thing about ICT -- at the core, it's about people,not technology #ukedchat

20:47:14 tmeeky@davidhunter we don't need kids using keyboards, notas robotically programmed tch typists anyway#ukedchat

20:47:39 DHESolutionsLtd@tmeeky @MrsPTeach I learned without noticingthrough use. If your MA prof can't touch type then writingpapers must be painful! #ukedchat

20:48:01 MrAColley@matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408@thechrissyt Cross curric apps are good. Shakesperianinsult generator anyone? #ukedchat

20:48:30 davidhunter @tmeeky I'm not taking administratively.I'm talking to

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have purpose and remove a barrier to learning#ukedchat

20:48:37 cherrylkd@tmeeky @mrspteach it doesn't affect ability 2 learn butit speeds up work & allows more time on real skills

being learned #ukedchat

20:48:46 TeachricYou people are mental. If you studied web design inyear 7 in 2002 would it be useful now? Of course itbloody wouldn't #ukedchat

20:49:08 matthewktabor @djphillips1408 @mattbuxton10 @thechrissyt If kidscan't code/build with vast, great resources online,teachers are doin' it wrong #ukedchat

20:49:30 mattbuxton10@djphillips1408 @mattbritland @thechrissyt solveproblems design innovate rationalise, reason,

collaborate, discern &combine ideas #ukedchat20:49:33 djphillips1408

@matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @thechrissyt but theyare not learning to do anything #ukedchat

20:50:21 SwayGrantham@Teachric I 'built' my first website when I was 10, notrelevant now but sparked the way for my future career!#ukedchat

20:50:41 mattbritland@mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt#Ukedchat app design unit is also a group task.Students have 2 get into groups 2 form company.

20:50:49 Maths4ukplc@reflectivemaths Love the badges - especially normaldistribution one!! Do we think prizes motivate learning?#mathchat #ukedchat

20:50:54 Kezmerrelda#ukedchat lot of what we do wit ks1 uses ict but is topiceg making animations with fav toy, making info bookabout rainforest with iPad

20:51:14 urban_teacher You guys are amazing #ukedchat 10 mins left!.......Whatmakes an appropriate ICT curriculum?

20:51:29 djphillips1408@matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @thechrissyt do youhave any idea what it takes to build an apple app, kidscan't build apps - 2 adv #ukedchat

20:51:30 MrsPTeach@tmeeky I can touch type. I think it speeds upeverything - word processing (obs), communication(email,twitter,text), programming #ukedchat

20:51:55 urban_teacher ooppps.....What about the the teachers skills set to teachprogramming and computer science! #ukedchat

20:52:02 tmeeky@cherrylkd @davidhunter My stance is simply: if there'sa purpose, then thrs value. Not just so kids can useoffice faster. #ukedchat

20:52:14 mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @matthewktabor @thechrissyt Why

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not? Taking an idea from inception to build, even if itflops, isn't learning?? #ukedchat

20:52:23 djphillips1408@mattbuxton10 @mattbritland @thechrissyt but I wantto teach them how to use a computer not how 2 be

better person #ukedchat

20:52:26 Kezmerrelda#ukedchat using digi microscope to explore minibeasts,filming news report about great fire London etc teachesict skills but is topic

20:52:34 thechrissyt@djphillips1408 @matthewktabor @mattbuxton10...creators too. The code language needs to beestablished/taught soon though I feel. #ukedchat

20:52:46 DHESolutionsLtd@Teachric I learned to use a BBC Acorn computer in1980s, I played Mario on a 7 bit Nintendo. I learned a lot

and was useful! #ukedchat

20:52:59 web20education#edtech20 #socialmedia #curation presentation in#globaled12 @LucianeCurator http://t.co/EY8Tow6L Rtand Like #edchat #ukedchat #ideachat

20:53:24 MrAColley@matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408Because half the time the community doesn't know.Creativity within a framework. #ukedchat

20:53:27 ginamarieglennteachers need to know what they are teaching so theyneed to experience the technology beforehand#ukedchat

20:53:40 Romaaddict@SwayGrantham @Teachric If concepts taughtalongside skills - a platform for continued learning nomatter what time has passed #ukedchat

20:53:41 urban_teacher RT @ginamarieglenn: teachers need to know what theyare teaching so they need to experience the technologybeforehand #ukedchat

20:53:56 urban_teacher @ginamarieglenn Very good point! #ukedchat

20:54 ukedchatThe #ukedchat poll for next week is live athttp://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before leavingcyberspace.

20:54:08 thechrissyt@djphillips1408 @mattbuxton10 @mattbritland kids verylargely know how to use computers.3yr olds navigatecbeebies scarily easily! #ukedchat

20:54:11 eslwebKitchen Sink alert: A curriculum that provides animmediate foundation, logical thinking, creativity,problem solving, criticality #ukedchat

20:54:13 djphillips1408@urban_teacher graphics, office suite, scratch,animation, film, codeavengers, stop frame, and pointers

to stuff on VLE 4 more #ukedchat

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20:54:20 MrsPTeachI have no ICT Skills Set (No certificates) I can use SOmany programmes - how? I spent up to 20 minsexploring each! Even CSS #ukedchat

20:54:22 Kezmerrelda

@SwayGrantham @teachric yes! I wrote games for my

zx spectrum when I was ten too #ukedchat not usefulbut inspired future maybe!!

20:54:25 tmeeky@MrsPTeach that's great then. I Ca point, just not thebe all. Wld rather my kids were taught 2 eval,synthesise, analyse by Mavis #ukedchat

20:54:58 CreateMakeLearnIf code is a language then learning a new languagewhen you are young is proven to be a very successfulmethod #ukedchat

20:55:01 ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts?

20:55:10 MrsPTeach @thechrissyt @djphillips1408 @mattbuxton10@mattbritland And Ebay apparently, u hear about thetoddler who put the car on ebay? #ukedchat

20:55:20 djphillips1408@mattbuxton10 @matthewktabor @thechrissyt But theyCAN'T ever build it - you cant teach xCode in schools!!!!#ukedchat

20:55:21 tmeeky@bekblayton "I think touch typing is an unnecessarydistraction." > it certainly has for me tnight :)#ukedchat

20:55:27 aangeli@Teachric @SwayGrantham some kids do not have thesame skills, access, tools or support to be able to 'self teach' though #ukedchat

20:55:36 SwayGrantham@Teachric not everyone can learn independently, manydon't know where to start. Otherwise why would anyonebother with college/uni #ukedchat

20:55:55 DHESolutionsLtd@Teachric Exactly! People forget that a life of ICTlearning involves being used to moving with technology.Happens naturally! #ukedchat

20:56:41 nightzookeeper @mattbritland @millsyblue this is great to hear.Definitely the way forward! #ukedchat

20:56:49 eslwebNeed to provide enough of a foundation that pupils canthen learn new software by themselves. Ability to learnto learn. #ukedchat

20:56:55 MrBirminghamICT#ukedchat there needs to be a document with aquestionnaire which tallies the skills need per softwarei.e, skills/key terms

20:57:02 djphillips1408@thechrissyt @mattbuxton10 @mattbritland Most kidscan do bugger all when they arrive to me they know how

to consume media only #ukedchat

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20:57:30 cherrylkd#ukedchat @urban_teacher Excellent hosting. Thanksfor an interesting chat. Lots of good points picked upfrom everyone. Thank you

20:57:31 richardblaize

@DCallanIT - My argument has always been if they find

it filtered at school they are more likely to look for it athome. #ukedchat

20:57:45 davidhunter @tmeeky @cherrylkd I'm a teacher and I consider typingessential to my effectiveness #ukedchat

20:57:54 bellaaleRT @ukedchat: The #ukedchat poll for next week is liveat http://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before leavingcyberspace.

20:58 ukedchatThe #ukedchat poll for next week is live athttp://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before you run

away!20:58 tmeeky

@bekblayton yes, too much time spent (wasted) on thistoo :) #ukedchat

20:58:19 urban_teacher RT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat @urban_teacher Excellenthosting. Thanks for an interesting chat. Lots of goodpoints picked up from everyone. ...

20:58:20 mattbritland @urban_teacher Great job today! Cheers! #Ukedchat

20:58:30 urban_teacher RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher Great job today!Cheers! #Ukedchat

20:58:34

tmeeky @davidhunter crikey, you sure? #ukedchat20:58:36 DHESolutionsLtd

@Teachric Not Mario Bros (self taught expert!) but yesto the Acorn. Loading floppy disks etc #ukedchat

20:58:36 ClaireJoanneICT @MrsPTeach Best way to learn - by doing #ukedchat

20:59:01 DCallanIT As Soon as the curric is finalised it will probably be outof date by it's very nature it must be dynamic and involvetaking risks #ukedchat

20:59:04 mattbuxton10@djphillips1408 @matthewktabor @thechrissyt Soteach them. If kid can't write a doctoral thesis, should weteach 2 write an essay? #ukedchat

20:59:11 eslweb@davidhunter @tmeeky @cherrylkd Poor typing is abane at university. 1 kid took 3 days to type an essay Idid in under an hour.#ukedchat

20:59:17 djphillips1408@eslweb that's why I have a vle packed full of pointersto self learning tools. A decent VLE is half the battle toget them going #ukedchat

20:59:22 ginamarieglenn @urban_teacher thanks for hosting!! #ukedchat

20:59:42 kevbartleRT @ukedchat: The #ukedchat poll for next week is liveat http://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before leavingcyberspace.

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21:00:03 ukedchatIt's 9pm. Huge thanks to @urban_teacher for hostingtonight. The archive will be at http://t.co/wqw4yTPnsoon. #ukedchat

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