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Reputation and Sudden Collapse in Secondary Markets Discussion by Andy Neumeyer Universidad Torcuato Di Tella

Reputation and Sudden Collapse in Secondary Markets Discussion by Andy Neumeyer Universidad Torcuato Di Tella

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Page 1: Reputation and Sudden Collapse in Secondary Markets Discussion by Andy Neumeyer Universidad Torcuato Di Tella

Reputation and Sudden Collapse in Secondary Markets

Discussion byAndy Neumeyer

Universidad Torcuato Di Tella

Page 2: Reputation and Sudden Collapse in Secondary Markets Discussion by Andy Neumeyer Universidad Torcuato Di Tella
Page 3: Reputation and Sudden Collapse in Secondary Markets Discussion by Andy Neumeyer Universidad Torcuato Di Tella

SEC probes second Goldman security

From the Financial Times. June 9 2010 23:42“The US Securities and Exchange Commission has stepped up its inquiries into a complex mortgage-backed deal by Goldman Sachs that was not part of the civil fraud charges filed against the bank in April, according to people close to the matter.SEC interest in Hudson Mezzanine Funding, a $2bn collaterised debt obligation, comes amid settlement talks with Goldman over accusations that the bank defrauded investors in Abacus, a similar CDO.”

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Main Conclusions of the paper

• Adverse selection => multiple equilibria in secondary markets for loans– Equilibrium refinement selects among these

equilibria with signals on colateral values• Policies implemented in 2008 are either bad

or irrelevant– Asset purchases– Low interest rates

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Main points of discussion

• Interpretation of secondary market– Highlight some modelling choices: assume that

new issues of ABS have the same distributions of returns over time.

• Show some data– Collateral values– Interest rates

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Interpretation of Secondary Market

ABS Originator

MortgagesCar Loans

Student LoansCredit Cards

Buys assets with a cost q

Sells ABS (with possibly complex payoff)

Buyer

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Interpretation of Secondary Market

Buys assets with at cost q

Sells ABS (with possibly complex payoff)

Buyer

perfect information

imperfect information

MortgagesCar Loans

Student LoansCredit Cards

ABS Originator

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Interpretation of Secondary Market

Buys assets with at cost q

Sells ABS (with possibly complex payoff)

Buyer

perfect information

imperfect information

FRAGILE MARKET

MortgagesCar Loans

Student LoansCredit Cards

ABS Originator

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Interpretation of Secondary Market

Buys assets with at cost q

Sells ABS (with possibly complex payoff)

Buyer

perfect information

imperfect information

Goldman Chari

FRAGILE MARKET

MortgagesCar Loans

Student LoansCredit Cards

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Setup of the Model

ABS Originator

Sells ABSBuyer

p Ebuyerv|ap| ,c 1

Sell iff Esellerv qr c Ebuyerv| p

sell a 1 : p q

hold a 0 : Esellerv q1 r c

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Static Model

• Secondary market exists iff ABS originator sells (is active)

• Perfect information: only costs matter• Assumption on returns

Esellerv qr c Ebuyerv| p

v v with prob v 0 with prob 1

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Static Model

• Imperfect information (lemmons): there is trade iff

Esellerv qr c p Ebuyerv|

v qr c p v 1 v

1 qr c v

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Dynamic Model

In t = 2• New buyer observes

payoff of ABS in t = 1• ABS originator issues

ABS with same (π, c) of t = 1

• Beliefs μ2 depend on actions and v realizations in t =1

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Dynamic Model

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Dynamic Model: crucial assumptions

• ABS assembled by originator has always the same (π, c)– Otherwise no Bayesian learning → all results

collapse• Other interpretation: update about whether

the ABS originator truthfully disclosed the distribution– What if the incentives to lie change over time ?

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IF I TAKE THE MODEL SERIOUSLY . . .

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Illustration of abrupt collapses

• All ABS collapse in 2007• Auto ABS, credit cards

and student loans revive in first half of 2008

• Collapse in september 2008

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Jan-00

May-0

0

Sep-00

Jan-01

May-0

1

Sep-01

Jan-02

May-0

2

Sep-02

Jan-03

May-0

3

Sep-03

Jan-04

May-0

4

Sep-04

Jan-05

May-0

5

Sep-05

Jan-06

May-0

6

Sep-06

Jan-07

May-0

7

Sep-07

Jan-08

May-0

8

Sep-08

Jan-09

May-0

9

Sep-09

Jan-100.0

50.0

100.0

150.0

200.0

250.0

Colateral Values: Used Cars and US Homes

Used Cars and Trucks (CPI - BLS)US Home Price Values- SP Case Shiller 10

Why did auto ABS market collapse in 2007?

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ABS Originator

Sells ABSBuyer

p Ebuyerv|ap| ,c 1

Sell iff Esellerv qr c Ebuyerv| p

sell a 1 : p q

hold a 0 : Esellerv q1 r c

Interest Rates

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Interest Rates (static model)

sell

hold

Interest Rate

Payoff

r*Market collapse

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Interest Rates (Dynamic Model)

Interest Rate

μ

r*

μ*

μ

μ0

Multiple Equilibrium

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Interest Rates in the Paper

• Why collapse in 2007 and not in 2001?– More discipline on μ?

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Conclusions

• Do we think that distributions of returns on ABS are constant over time across new issuances?

• Do more work in terms of matching model and data