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MWEA Collection Systems Committee - January 14, 2010 Location: FTC&H (Grand Rapids, Lansing and Farmington Hills) via video conferencing Attendees: Grand Rapids Office: Charles Wesley .............................................. FTC&H ............................................. [email protected] Lansing Office: Jeff Brown ..................................................... FTC&H ............................................... [email protected] Jack Keys..................................................... SCCUMA ........................................... [email protected] Ray Severy ...........................................Meridian Township .............................. [email protected] Scot Howell ................................................. SCCUMA ......................................... [email protected] Kurt Krahulik ......................................... DC Engineering............................... [email protected] Tim Bergstrom ....................................... Prein & Newhof ..................... [email protected] Tom Maxwell .................................................. HRC........................................ [email protected] Farmington Hills Office: Tim Sikma (Chair)..................................... City of Novi..................................... [email protected] John MacDonald (Vice-Chair) ................Martin Controls ................................ [email protected] Austin Fletcher (Secretary)................ Hubbell, Roth & Clark ......................... [email protected] Steve Kalinowski ........................................ Wade-Trim .............................[email protected] Harry Price ...................................................... NTH.................................... [email protected] Michelle LaRose.............................................. OHM ...................... [email protected] Doug VanDyke .............................................. FTC&H ........................................... [email protected] Oskar Nordstrom ............................................. CDM ......................................... [email protected] Joe Moore ................................................ Dubois-Cooper ........................... [email protected] Items Discussed: 1. Guest Speaker Harry Price (NTH) gave a brief overview of the newly formed ‘Oakland and Macomb County Authority’; o Service Area – 670 sq. miles with a population of 830,000; o Contains forty (40) miles of interceptors – ranging in diameter from 36” to 12’ and depths ranging from forty (40) to one-hundred and ten (110) feet.

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MWEA Collection Systems Committee - January 14, 2010

Location:

FTC&H (Grand Rapids, Lansing and Farmington Hills) via video conferencing

Attendees:

Grand Rapids Office:

Charles Wesley .............................................. FTC&H ............................................. [email protected]

Lansing Office:

Jeff Brown ..................................................... FTC&H ............................................... [email protected] Jack Keys ..................................................... SCCUMA ........................................... [email protected] Ray Severy ........................................... Meridian Township .............................. [email protected] Scot Howell ................................................. SCCUMA ......................................... [email protected] Kurt Krahulik ......................................... DC Engineering ............................... [email protected] Tim Bergstrom ....................................... Prein & Newhof ..................... [email protected] Tom Maxwell .................................................. HRC ........................................ [email protected]

Farmington Hills Office:

Tim Sikma (Chair) ..................................... City of Novi ..................................... [email protected] John MacDonald (Vice-Chair) ................ Martin Controls ................................ [email protected] Austin Fletcher (Secretary)................ Hubbell, Roth & Clark ......................... [email protected] Steve Kalinowski ........................................ Wade-Trim ............................. [email protected] Harry Price ...................................................... NTH .................................... [email protected] Michelle LaRose .............................................. OHM ...................... [email protected] Doug VanDyke .............................................. FTC&H ........................................... [email protected] Oskar Nordstrom ............................................. CDM ......................................... [email protected] Joe Moore ................................................ Dubois-Cooper ........................... [email protected]

Items Discussed:

1. Guest Speaker

• Harry Price (NTH) gave a brief overview of the newly formed ‘Oakland and Macomb

County Authority’;

o Service Area – 670 sq. miles with a population of 830,000; o Contains forty (40) miles of interceptors – ranging in diameter from 36” to 12’

and depths ranging from forty (40) to one-hundred and ten (110) feet.

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• Joe Moore (Dubois & Cooper) presented a ‘Powerpoint’ presentation on Self-Priming Centrifugal Pumps.

2. Collection System Sub Committees

• Discussion revolved around creating sub-committees to assist in various areas. The following is a list of the new sub-committees and names of the volunteers for each:

o Nomination Invitation – Jack Keys / John MacDonald; o Guest Speakers Coordinator – Joe Moore / Michelle LaRose; o New Membership – John MacDonald / Jeff Brown; o Matter Publication – Michelle LaRose; o Vendor Liaison – Jack Keys / Joe Moore; o Workshop / Seminar – Jeff Brown / Harry Price / Michelle LaRose / Osker

Nordstrom

• It is anticipated that each of the above sub-committee will provide brief updates at each committee meeting.

3. Radio Frequency Changes

• Jack Keys provided a brief update on the upcoming Radio Frequency Changes;

• Handouts containing additional information were distributed during the meeting (see attached).

4. Future Meeting Topics / Tours

Suggested future committee meeting topics:

• GPS / GIS Units and Equipment.

5. Annual Collection System Seminar

• The date / location has been set for this year’s seminar;

o September 9, 2010 at the Eagle Eye Banquet Facility (E. Lansing).

• The following are comments for future seminar topics obtained from last year’s seminar

questionnaire:

○ Sewer Cleaning ○ Case Studies ○ Pipe Patch ○ Rehab Vendors ○ Point Repair ○ Rehab Methods ○ Maintenance Planning ○ Footing Drain Disconnection

• This year’s topic will be “Collection System Maintenance & Rehab – The Basics”.

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6. Other

• Larry Woodward has offered to teach a NASSCO PACP and MACP training course:

o Two (2) day course – tentatively scheduled for March 3rd and 4th; o Cost - $750 per person; o Location – TBD (Lansing area); o Additional information is attached to these minutes; o Anyone interested should contact Kurt Krahulik ([email protected] or

517-669-4541) by January 29, 2010;

• It was noted that ‘Matters’ is always looking for pictures (i.e. covers, etc…);

• Austin Fletcher is working with Jeff Brown to connect HRC’s video conferencing equipment with Fishbeck, Thompson, Carr & Huber system. This will allow the committee to offer additional locations and provide an opportunity to rotate locations;

• While his schedule didn’t allow him to attend, Keith McCormack passed along the

following: o The Storm Water Surveys have been returned; o The Board of Directors is changing and they are looking for candidates.

• Jack intends to have the committee’s vender list available for the September seminar.

7. Future Meetings

• 02/02/10 – 8:00 a.m. (Joint Expo – lunch area in the Expo room); • 03/11/10 – 9:30 a.m. • 05/13/10 – 9:30 a.m. • 08/08/10 – 08/13/10 (MWEA / MI-AWWA Joint Annual Conference; • 09/09/10 – Collection System Seminar

These meeting minutes were prepared by Austin Fletcher

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Home Attention All FCC Part 90 VHF & UHF Radio System Managers & Licensees The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has mandated that all Part 90 Business, Educational,Industrial, Public Safety, and State and Local Government VHF (150-174 MHz) and UHF (421-512 MHz) private PLMR (Private Land Mobile Radio) system licensees convert from what has been known as"wide-band" (25 KHz) operation to "narrow-band" (12.5 KHz or equivalent) operation by January 1, 2013 - from today. See http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-292A1.pdf and http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-271692A1.pdf for details Is YOUR Private Radio System "Narrow-band" Ready and FCC Compliant? In a nutshell, this mandate requires that all currently deployed 25 KHz "wide-band" only conventional and trunked VHF and UHF two-way hand-held portables, vehicle-mounted mobiles, dispatcher stations, wireless data, telemetry, or SCADA links, (called subscriber radios), and any associated 25 KHz conventional base or trunked repeaters or relay stations (called infrastructure radios ) be replaced with 12.5 KHz "narrow-band" (or equivalent) equipment prior to the 2013 date in order to continue legal use of your licensed radio frequencies beyond that date. In addition, your FCC license(s) must be modified to certify that changes in the emissions of your system have been made. Non-compliance may result in the cancellation of your license(s) by the FCC. Contrary to what some in the industry might be telling you, the mandate does not require licensees to change to new radio frequencies (or channels) or to another band, nor does it require moving from analog to digital or P-25, or, from a conventional to a trunked radio system. However, in certain situations or circumstances unique to individual licensees, these alternatives may be options to carefully and fully explore with the assistance of a qualified radio or wireless communicationsprofessional. The mandate also does not mean that all your radios must be relegated to the recycling pile; just the soon-to-be non-compliant ones along with some relatively minor re-programming of others. Many of our clients - as your company or organization should and may be doing - have already begun their "narrow-band" migration process by replacing older "wide-band" only subscriber radios with dual-mode subscriber radios (those capable of both 25 KHz and/or 12.5 KHz operation) as they add newradios to their system or, as older radios are lost, damaged beyond repair, or otherwise removed fromservice. While this strategy is a practical, cost-effective approach for many, particularly those with large numbers of subscriber radios in their fleets or those with multiple radio frequencies, bases and/or repeaters in their system, this method only addresses the first step of a multi-step process. Unless a radio system is initially implemented as a narrow-band compliant system, as most completely new systems have been over the last 6-9 years, it is important to realize that many - if not all - dual mode replacement subscriber radios sold into pre-mandate, or older, conventional or trunked VHF/UHF radio systems over this same time period have typically been programmed for "wide-band" only operation - not narrowband operation. This "best practices" method was done to maintain compatibility with existing"wide-band" subscriber and infrastructure radios in those systems. (NOTE: the mixing of "wide-band" and "narrow-band" radios on the same frequency of a system is generally notencouraged nor recommended due to technical differences/characteristics in the transmitted andreceived audio of each that can potentially render most voice - and especially data - transmissions between "wide-band" and "narrow-band" radios unintelligible, distorted, or unreliable). The "best practices" method also meant that the expense and logistics involved in an "all at once" or "forklift"deployment of both subscriber radios and infrastructure with "narrow-band" equipment could be deferred till another day as the year 2013 seemed a long way off. Because of this, in more instances than one might think, the need to address the deferred replacementof system infrastucture radios may have inadvertantly been overlooked or even forgotten by somelicensees or radio system managers. This is particularly true when it comes to the many smallerbusiness, educational, industrial, city, state, municipal government, and public safety users of two wayradio who typically don't keep up with current FCC Rules or the responsibilities that go along with being aPart 90 licensee, and, who quite often simply take the use and benefit of their radio systems for granted. Thus, until your entire radio system - including all subscriber radios and all infrastructure radios - have been either replaced and/or reprogrammed to operate in the "narrow-band" mode, your radio system is most likely still operating in the "wide-band" mode - which brings us to the next steps that need to be taken in the migration process. Do you have an implementation plan - and a budget - to address the final steps necessary to complete the "narrow-band" migration process and become fully FCC compliant? These steps include the replacement of any remaining 25 KHz subscriber radios still being used, the procurement and installationof any "narrow-band" base stations or repeaters or other infrastructure if needed, the coordinated re-programming of all subscriber and infrastructure radios to "narrow-band" operation, and, the modification of your radio station license to reflect new emission designators. If you do not, we can help! We urge you to contact us soon for straight answers to your questions and informed suggestions on how we can be of service to your company or organization - 2013 is not that far away, particularly when budgets may need to be prepared or, where day-to-day operations dependant on uninterrupted radio communications may be jeopardized by further delays in your migration to"narrow-band" operation and compliance. Non-compliance may result in cancellation of licenses by the FCC. Companies and organizations who value and depend upon their Part 90 two-way voice and data radio communications systems are advised to not wait untill the last minute to begin (or to complete) the narrow-banding process If they do so they are risking not only the use of their current radio frequency

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