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100:01:11,828 --> 00:01:14,533You did a wonderful job. Wonderful.
200:01:16,542 --> 00:01:18,617You did it. You did it!
300:01:21,962 --> 00:01:27,253To continue, you've listened to a long andcomplex case, murder in the first degree.
400:01:27,343 --> 00:01:32,384Premeditated murder is the most seriouscharge tried in our criminal courts.
500:01:32,473 --> 00:01:37,181You've listened to the testimony, had thelaw interpreted as it applies in this case.
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00:01:37,269 --> 00:01:41,978It's now your duty to sit down and tryand separate the facts from the fancy.
700:01:42,066 --> 00:01:46,312One man is dead.Another man's life is at stake.
800:01:46,403 --> 00:01:50,447If there's a reasonable doubt in yourminds as to the guilt of the accused -
900:01:50,531 --> 00:01:55,359a reasonable doubt-then you mustbring me a verdict of not guilty.
1000:01:55,453 --> 00:01:59,498If there's no reasonable doubt,then you must, in good conscience,
1100:01:59,582 --> 00:02:02,499
find the accused guilty.
1200:02:02,585 --> 00:02:06,452However you decide,your verdict must be unanimous.
1300:02:06,547 --> 00:02:09,998In the event that
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you find the accused guilty,
1400:02:10,092 --> 00:02:13,377the bench will not entertaina recommendation for mercy.
1500:02:13,470 --> 00:02:16,721The death sentence is mandatoryin this case.
1600:02:17,099 --> 00:02:21,345You are faced with a grave responsibility.Thank you, gentlemen.
1700:02:22,645 --> 00:02:25,931The alternate jurors are excused.
1800:02:30,444 --> 00:02:32,936The jury will now retire.
1900:04:53,330 --> 00:04:56,166- Wanna piece of gum?- No, thanks.
2000:04:56,500 --> 00:04:59,073This thing isn't movin'.
2100:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,503- I'll give you a hand.
- That's it.2200:05:10,264 --> 00:05:13,632You know somethin'? I calledthe Weather Bureau this morning.
2300:05:13,725 --> 00:05:16,726This is gonna bethe hottest day of the year.
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00:05:16,811 --> 00:05:19,480You'd think they'd air-condition this place.
2500:05:19,564 --> 00:05:22,813- What is your name, sir?- Oh, it's... that one. Yeah.
2600:05:22,900 --> 00:05:27,064
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Thank you very much.OK, gentlemen. Everybody's here.
2700:05:27,155 --> 00:05:32,314Now, if there's anything you want,I'll be right outside the door. Just knock.
2800:05:44,922 --> 00:05:47,672Good morning.I never knew they locked the door.
2900:05:47,757 --> 00:05:50,793Sure they lock the door.What'd you think?
3000:05:50,884 --> 00:05:54,005I don't know. It just never occurred to me.
3100:05:54,847 --> 00:05:58,797
- What's that for?- I thought we might wanna vote by ballot.
3200:05:58,893 --> 00:06:03,056Great idea. Maybe we canget him elected senator.
3300:06:08,903 --> 00:06:12,734- How'd you like it?- I don't know. It was pretty interesting.
3400:06:12,823 --> 00:06:17,568- Yeah? I almost fell asleep.- I mean, I've never been on a jury before.
3500:06:17,660 --> 00:06:20,234No? I've sat on many juries.
3600:06:21,372 --> 00:06:26,747Those lawyers talk and talk, even whenit's an open-and-shut case like this one.
3700:06:26,836 --> 00:06:30,419- Ever hear so much talk about nothin'?- I guess they're entitled.
3800:06:30,506 --> 00:06:33,755They're entitled. It's the system, but...
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3900:06:33,843 --> 00:06:38,469if you ask me, I'd slap those tough kidsdown before they start any trouble.
4000:06:38,555 --> 00:06:42,090It saves a lot of time and money.Let's get started.
4100:06:42,183 --> 00:06:44,854Yeah. We've probably allgot things to do here.
4200:06:44,937 --> 00:06:48,885We can start with a five-minute break.One gentleman is in the bathroom.
4300:06:48,981 --> 00:06:51,058Are... we gonna sit in order?
4400:06:51,151 --> 00:06:53,855Gee, I don't know. I guess so.
4500:06:58,658 --> 00:07:01,149- Buddy, you're in my seat.- Oh, excuse me.
4600:07:01,244 --> 00:07:03,319That's all right.
4700:07:04,580 --> 00:07:07,284Hey, that's not a bad view, huh?
4800:07:10,086 --> 00:07:14,664What did you think of the case?I mean, it had a lot of interest for me.
4900:07:14,756 --> 00:07:18,588No real... dead spots.You know what I mean?
5000:07:18,677 --> 00:07:23,303We were lucky to get a murder case.I figured us for an assault or burglary.
5100:07:23,389 --> 00:07:26,095Boy, they can be the dullest!
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5200:07:27,185 --> 00:07:32,427- Hey, is that the Woolworth Building?- That's right.
5300:07:32,523 --> 00:07:36,473Isn't that funny? I've lived here all my life.I've never been inside it.
5400:07:36,569 --> 00:07:40,613If you had to sort out all that junk,like that thing with the movies.
5500:07:40,697 --> 00:07:43,699Yeah. What aboutthat business with the knife?
5600:07:43,784 --> 00:07:46,820Asking grown-up peopleto believe that kind of jazz.
5700:07:46,911 --> 00:07:49,664You expect that.You know what we're dealing with.
5800:07:49,748 --> 00:07:51,408Yeah, I guess so.
5900:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,001Well, your horn works.
Now try your lights.6000:07:55,086 --> 00:07:59,085- You got a cold?- And how. Hot-weather colds can kill you.
6100:07:59,174 --> 00:08:01,629I can hardly touch my nose.Know what I mean?
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00:08:01,717 --> 00:08:04,422Sure do. I just got over one.
6300:08:05,262 --> 00:08:09,841- Oh, come on! Mr Foreman, let's go.- The guy's still in the bathroom.
6400:08:09,934 --> 00:08:13,766
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What's new? I didn't get a chanceto see a paper this morning.
6500:08:13,854 --> 00:08:16,262I was only wonderinghow the market closed.
6600:08:16,356 --> 00:08:20,852- You got a seat on the exchange?- I'm a broker.
6700:08:20,944 --> 00:08:23,021I run a messenger service.
6800:08:23,114 --> 00:08:25,439The Beck and Call Company.
6900:08:25,532 --> 00:08:27,774The name is my wife's idea.
7000:08:27,868 --> 00:08:31,402Got 37 men workin'. Started with nothin'.
7100:08:31,496 --> 00:08:34,201OK, men. Let's take our seats, huh?
7200:08:37,835 --> 00:08:43,078We can all get out of here pretty quick.I have tickets to that ball game tonight.
7300:08:43,174 --> 00:08:46,957Yanks and Cleveland. We've gotthis kid Modjelewski in there.
7400:08:47,052 --> 00:08:49,341He's a real bull, this kid. You know...
7500:08:50,639 --> 00:08:52,762Real jug-handled. You know?
7600:08:55,477 --> 00:08:59,427You're a real baseball fan, aren't ya?Where do we sit here?
7700:08:59,523 --> 00:09:02,558I thought we'd sit in order,by jury numbers.
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7800:09:02,650 --> 00:09:06,351One, two, three and so on around thetable, if that's OK with you gentlemen.
7900:09:06,446 --> 00:09:09,530- What's the difference?- It's reasonable to sit in order.
8000:09:09,616 --> 00:09:16,282- Let it be.- That's twelve. We go around one, two...
8100:09:16,372 --> 00:09:20,451What was your impressionof the prosecuting attorney?
8200:09:20,542 --> 00:09:23,330- I beg pardon?
- I thought he was really sharp,8300:09:23,421 --> 00:09:27,288the way he handled all those pointsone by one, in logical sequence.
8400:09:27,383 --> 00:09:32,258- I was very impressed.- I think he... he did an expert job.
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00:09:32,345 --> 00:09:35,548A lot of drive, too. You know? Real drive.
8600:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,092OK, fellas. Can wehold it down a minute? Fellas?
8700:09:39,186 --> 00:09:41,344Say, we'd like to get started.
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00:09:41,438 --> 00:09:44,308Gentleman at the window.
8900:09:44,399 --> 00:09:47,565- We'd like to get started.- Oh, I'm sorry.
9000:09:47,652 --> 00:09:52,693
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- The kid kills his father, just like that.- Listen, it happens all the time.
9100:09:52,781 --> 00:09:55,071They let those kids run wild up there.
9200:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,113Well, maybe it serves him right.You know what I mean?
9300:09:58,204 --> 00:10:01,157- Is everyone here?- The old man is inside.
9400:10:01,247 --> 00:10:04,000- Would you knock on the door for him?- Yeah.
9500:10:05,085 --> 00:10:08,288
- Are you a Yankee fan?- No, Baltimore.
9600:10:08,672 --> 00:10:10,748Baltimore?
9700:10:11,467 --> 00:10:15,510That's like being hit in the headwith a crowbar once a day.
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00:10:15,595 --> 00:10:19,378Who have they got? Who have they gotbesides good groundkeepers?
9900:10:19,473 --> 00:10:22,677- Say, we'd like to get started.- Forgive me, gentlemen.
10000:10:22,769 --> 00:10:26,469- I didn't mean to keep you waiting.- Baltimore?
10100:10:26,814 --> 00:10:32,603OK, if I can have your attention. You fellascan handle this thing any way you want.
10200:10:32,694 --> 00:10:35,446I'm... you know,I'm not gonna make any rules.
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10300:10:35,530 --> 00:10:41,485We can, well, discuss it first, then voteon it. That's, of course... that's one way.
10400:10:41,578 --> 00:10:44,329And, well, we can vote on it right now.
10500:10:44,413 --> 00:10:47,166I think it's customaryto take a preliminary vote.
10600:10:47,250 --> 00:10:51,082Yeah, let's vote. Who knows?Maybe we can all get outta here.
10700:10:52,630 --> 00:10:58,799OK. Then I think that you know that wehave a first-degree murder charge here,
10800:10:58,886 --> 00:11:04,011and if we vote the accused guilty,we've got to send him to the chair.
10900:11:04,099 --> 00:11:06,721Um... That's mandatory.
11000:11:06,810 --> 00:11:09,846- I think we know that.
- Yeah, let's see who's where.11100:11:09,939 --> 00:11:13,639- OK. Anyone doesn't wanna vote?- It's fine with me.
11200:11:14,859 --> 00:11:20,234OK, then, just remember that thishas to be twelve to nothing, either way.
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00:11:20,323 --> 00:11:23,359That's the law. OK, are we ready?
11400:11:23,451 --> 00:11:26,987All those voting guilty,please raise your hands.
11500:11:30,249 --> 00:11:34,246
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...
11600:11:35,171 --> 00:11:37,578eight, nine, ten, eleven.
11700:11:37,673 --> 00:11:40,164OK, that's eleven guilty.
11800:11:40,718 --> 00:11:42,794Those voting not guilty?
11900:11:43,262 --> 00:11:45,468One. Right.
12000:11:45,555 --> 00:11:50,347Eleven guilty, one not guilty.Well, now we know where we are.
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00:11:50,435 --> 00:11:53,602Boy, oh boy! There's always one.
12200:11:54,940 --> 00:11:57,644So, what do we do now?
12300:11:57,734 --> 00:12:00,818- I guess we talk.- Boy, oh boy!
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00:12:00,904 --> 00:12:03,821You really think he's innocent?
12500:12:06,450 --> 00:12:09,701- I don't know.- You sat in court with the rest of us.
12600:12:09,787 --> 00:12:12,954You heard what we did.The kid's a dangerous killer.
12700:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,490- He's 18 years old.- Well, that's old enough.
12800:12:16,584 --> 00:12:19,456He stabbed his own fatherfour inches into the chest.
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12900:12:19,546 --> 00:12:22,215They proved ita dozen different ways in court.
13000:12:22,299 --> 00:12:25,834- Would you like me to list 'em for you?- No.
13100:12:26,137 --> 00:12:29,136- Then what do you want?- I just want to talk.
13200:12:29,222 --> 00:12:32,388What's there to talk about?Eleven of us think he's guilty.
13300:12:32,475 --> 00:12:34,801No one had to think about it twiceexcept you.
13400:12:34,894 --> 00:12:38,061I want to ask you something.Do you believe his story?
13500:12:38,147 --> 00:12:42,442- I don't know. Maybe I don't.- So how come you voted not guilty?
13600:12:42,527 --> 00:12:44,400
There were eleven votes for guilty.13700:12:44,486 --> 00:12:49,563It's not easy to raise my hand and send aboy off to die without talking about it first.
13800:12:49,658 --> 00:12:53,193- Well, now, who says it's easy?- No one.
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00:12:53,287 --> 00:12:58,079What? Just because I voted fast?I honestly think the guy is guilty.
14000:12:58,165 --> 00:13:00,835Couldn't change my mindif you talked for 100 years.
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00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,623I'm not trying to change your mind.It's just that...
14200:13:03,713 --> 00:13:06,832This is somebody's life.We can't decide in five minutes.
14300:13:06,924 --> 00:13:11,337- Supposing we're wrong?- Supposing this building fell on my head?
14400:13:11,429 --> 00:13:14,299- You can suppose anything.- That's right.
14500:13:14,389 --> 00:13:19,431What's the difference how long it takes?Supposin' we take five minutes? So what?
14600:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,431Let's take an hour. The ball gamedoesn't start till eight o'clock.
14700:13:29,195 --> 00:13:32,612- Who's got something to say?- /'m willing to sit for an hour.
14800:13:32,699 --> 00:13:38,037- Great. I heard a good story last night...
- That's not why we're sitting here.14900:13:38,121 --> 00:13:42,285All right, then you tell me.What are we sitting here for?
15000:13:42,959 --> 00:13:45,745I don't know. Maybe no reason.
15100:13:45,836 --> 00:13:49,288
Look, this kid's beenkicked around all of his life.
15200:13:49,382 --> 00:13:53,166You know, born in a slum,mother dead since he was nine.
15300:13:53,260 --> 00:13:55,632
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He lived for a year and a halfin an orphanage
15400:13:55,721 --> 00:13:58,675when his father was servinga jail term for forgery.
15500:13:58,765 --> 00:14:01,090That's not a very happy beginning.
15600:14:01,184 --> 00:14:04,849He's a wild, angry kid. That's allhe's ever been. And you know why?
15700:14:04,938 --> 00:14:08,806Cos he's been hit on the headby somebody once a day, every day.
15800:14:08,901 --> 00:14:14,191
He's had a pretty miserable 18 years.I think we owe him a few words, that's all.
15900:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,025I don't mind telling you this, mister. Wedon't owe him a thing. He got a fair trial.
16000:14:19,118 --> 00:14:23,662What do you think that trial cost?He's lucky he got it. Know what I mean?
16100:14:23,748 --> 00:14:28,041Look, we're all grown-ups in here.We heard the facts, didn't we?
16200:14:28,126 --> 00:14:32,456You're not gonna tell me we're supposedto believe this kid, knowing what he is.
16300:14:32,548 --> 00:14:34,789I've lived among them all my life.
16400:14:34,883 --> 00:14:40,174You can't believe a word they say.You know that. I mean, they're born liars.
16500:14:40,264 --> 00:14:43,513- Only an ignorant man can believe that.- Now, listen...
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16600:14:43,599 --> 00:14:46,470Do you think you were bornwith a monopoly on the truth?
16700:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,348Certain things should bepointed out to this man.
16800:14:49,439 --> 00:14:54,515- It's not Sunday. We don't need a sermon.- We have a job to do. Now let's do it.
16900:14:54,610 --> 00:14:58,394Rice Pops. It's a productI work on at the agency.
17000:14:58,489 --> 00:15:01,026"The breakfast with the built-in bounce."
17100:15:01,116 --> 00:15:03,488- I wrote that line.- Very catchy.
17200:15:03,577 --> 00:15:08,239- Say, do you mind?- I'm sorry. I have this habit of doodling.
17300:15:08,332 --> 00:15:11,286
- It keeps me thinking clearly.- We have work to do.
17400:15:11,376 --> 00:15:14,460There's no pointstaying here for ever. OK.
17500:15:15,005 --> 00:15:21,174Perhaps if the gentleman down there whois disagreeing with us could tell us why.
17600:15:21,261 --> 00:15:25,305Tell us what you're thinking. We might beable to show you where you're mixed up.
17700:15:25,390 --> 00:15:32,103Maybe this is an idea. It seems to me thatit's up to us to convince this gentleman
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17800:15:32,188 --> 00:15:37,811that he's wrong and we're right. Maybe ifwe each took a couple of minutes just to...
17900:15:37,902 --> 00:15:41,768- Well, it was just a quick idea.- No, no, no. That's a good one.
18000:15:41,863 --> 00:15:43,902Supposing we go once around the table?
18100:15:44,115 --> 00:15:46,108I guess you're first.
18200:15:49,955 --> 00:15:52,528It's hard to put into words.
18300:15:53,374 --> 00:15:55,664
I just think he's guilty.18400:15:55,753 --> 00:15:59,535I thought it was obvious from the word go.Nobody proved otherwise.
18500:15:59,630 --> 00:16:03,628Nobody has to prove otherwise.The burden of proof's on the prosecution.
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00:16:03,718 --> 00:16:07,965The defendant doesn't even have to openhis mouth. That's in the Constitution.
18700:16:08,055 --> 00:16:12,302Sure, I know that. What I meant was...
18800:16:13,060 --> 00:16:16,760Well... I just think he's guilty.I mean, somebody saw him do it.
18900:16:16,855 --> 00:16:22,098OK. Here's what I think. And I haveno personal feelings about this.
19000:16:22,194 --> 00:16:25,230I just wanna talk about facts.
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00:16:25,322 --> 00:16:27,729Number one.
19200:16:27,824 --> 00:16:32,035The old man lived downstairs underthe room where the killing took place.
19300:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,820At 10 minutes after 12 on the nightof the killing, he heard loud noises.
19400:16:35,915 --> 00:16:37,991Said it sounded like a fight.
19500:16:38,084 --> 00:16:40,871And he heard the kid yell out"I'm gonna kill ya."
19600:16:40,962 --> 00:16:43,286
A second later,he heard a body hit the floor.
19700:16:43,380 --> 00:16:47,793Ran to the door, opened it up, saw the kidrun down the stairs and out of the house.
19800:16:47,885 --> 00:16:51,799Called the police. They found the old manwith the knife in his chest.
19900:16:51,888 --> 00:16:55,139The coroner fixed the time of deatharound midnight.
20000:16:55,226 --> 00:17:00,563Now, these are facts.You can't refute facts. The kid is guilty.
20100:17:00,646 --> 00:17:03,932I'm just as sentimental as the next fella.
I know he's only 18.
20200:17:04,025 --> 00:17:08,188- But he's still gotta pay for what he did.- I'm with you.
20300:17:08,279 --> 00:17:12,146- OK. Are you finished?
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- Yeah.
20400:17:12,241 --> 00:17:15,740It is obvious to me thatthe boy's entire story was flimsy.
20500:17:15,827 --> 00:17:17,736He claimed he was at the movies,
20600:17:17,829 --> 00:17:21,780yet he couldn't remember the namesof the films he saw or who played in them.
20700:17:21,876 --> 00:17:24,662- That's right.- And no one saw him at the theatre.
20800:17:24,753 --> 00:17:29,130And the woman across the street-if her
testimony don't prove it, nothing does.20900:17:29,215 --> 00:17:33,676- That's right. She actually saw the killing.- Fellas, please. Let's go in order.
21000:17:33,761 --> 00:17:35,838Just a minute. Here's a woman...
21100:17:37,182 --> 00:17:41,759
Here's a woman who's lying in bed.She can't sleep. She's dyin' with the heat.
21200:17:41,852 --> 00:17:44,937She looks out the window,and right across the street
21300:17:45,022 --> 00:17:48,640she sees the kid stick the knifeinto his father.
21400:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,855The time is 12.10 on the nose.Everything fits.
21500:17:51,946 --> 00:17:54,235She's known the kid all his life.
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00:17:54,323 --> 00:17:58,189His window is opposite hers across theel tracks. She swore she saw him do it.
21700:17:58,284 --> 00:18:00,858Through the windowsof a passing el train.
21800:18:00,954 --> 00:18:05,201This el train had no passengers on it.It was just being moved downtown.
21900:18:05,292 --> 00:18:08,626The lights were out,and they proved in court that at night
22000:18:08,712 --> 00:18:12,543you can look through the windows andsee what's happening on the other side.
22100:18:12,632 --> 00:18:15,798- They proved it.- I'd like to ask you something.
22200:18:15,884 --> 00:18:18,803You don't believe the boy.How come you believe the woman?
22300:18:18,888 --> 00:18:22,138She's one of "them" too, isn't she?
22400:18:23,267 --> 00:18:27,181- You're a pretty smart fella, aren't ya?- OK, gentlemen. Now, gentlemen.
22500:18:27,271 --> 00:18:31,564- Come on, sit down. Sit down.- What's he so wise about? I'm telling ya...
22600:18:31,650 --> 00:18:34,936
Come on. Now we're not gonnaget anywhere fighting.
22700:18:35,029 --> 00:18:39,275- Whose turn is it next?- Oh, his. Number five.
22800:18:42,535 --> 00:18:45,109
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May I... Can I pass?
22900:18:45,204 --> 00:18:48,075Well... That's your privilege.
23000:18:48,165 --> 00:18:50,408How about the next gentleman?
23100:18:50,502 --> 00:18:53,075Oh. Well... I don't know.
23200:18:53,171 --> 00:18:57,831I started to be convinced,you know, very early in the case.
23300:18:57,924 --> 00:19:01,128You see, I was looking for a motive.
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00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:06,760That's very important because if you don'thave a motive, where's your case, right?
23500:19:06,851 --> 00:19:12,603Anyway, that testimony from those peopleacross the hall from the kid's apartment,
23600:19:12,688 --> 00:19:18,110that was very powerful. Didn't they saysomething about a fight, an argument,
23700:19:18,194 --> 00:19:22,488between the old man and his sonaround about seven o'clock that night?
23800:19:22,573 --> 00:19:25,907- I could be wrong but...- It was eight o'clock, not seven.
23900:19:25,993 --> 00:19:31,783
They heard an argument. Thenthey heard the father hit the boy twice.
24000:19:31,874 --> 00:19:36,121Finally they saw the boy run, angry,out of the house. What does that prove?
24100:19:36,212 --> 00:19:39,212
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It don't prove anything.It's just part of the picture.
24200:19:39,298 --> 00:19:42,464You said it provided a motive.So did the prosecution.
24300:19:42,551 --> 00:19:44,673That wasn't a very strong motive.
24400:19:44,761 --> 00:19:48,676This boy has been hit so many timesthat violence is practically...
24500:19:48,766 --> 00:19:51,091It's a normal state of affairs with him.
24600:19:51,184 --> 00:19:55,430I just can't see two slaps in the face
provoking him into committing murder.24700:19:55,521 --> 00:20:00,064It may have been two too many.Everyone has a breaking point.
24800:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,649Anything else?
24900:20:03,737 --> 00:20:07,107
- No.- OK. How about you?
25000:20:09,701 --> 00:20:13,117I don't know. It's all been said.
25100:20:13,204 --> 00:20:16,656You can talk here for ever.It's still the same thing.
252
00:20:17,042 --> 00:20:21,918This kid is five for 0.Well, look at his record.
25300:20:22,006 --> 00:20:26,298When he was 10, he was in children'scourt: He threw a rock at a teacher.
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00:20:26,384 --> 00:20:30,464When he was 15, he wasin reform school: He stole a car.
25500:20:30,555 --> 00:20:35,382He's been arrested for muggin'.He was picked up twice for knife fightin'.
25600:20:35,476 --> 00:20:40,185They say he's real handy with a knife.Oh, this is a very fine boy.
25700:20:40,272 --> 00:20:44,815Ever since he was five, his fatherbeat him up regularly. He used his fists.
25800:20:44,901 --> 00:20:47,393So would I. A kid like that?
259
00:20:47,488 --> 00:20:50,821It's these kids -the way they are nowadays.
26000:20:53,076 --> 00:20:56,777When I was a kid,I used to call my father "sir".
26100:20:56,871 --> 00:21:00,038That's right. Ever hear a kidcall his father that any more?
26200:21:00,124 --> 00:21:03,493Fathers don't seem to thinkit's important any more.
26300:21:03,586 --> 00:21:05,994- You got any kids?- Three.
26400:21:07,048 --> 00:21:09,123
I got one.
26500:21:10,050 --> 00:21:12,127He's 22 years old.
26600:21:17,808 --> 00:21:22,269When he was nine years old,he ran away from a fight.
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26700:21:22,355 --> 00:21:27,145I saw it. I was so embarrassed,I almost threw up.
26800:21:27,233 --> 00:21:32,690I said "I'm gonna make a man out of youif I have to break you in two tryin'."
26900:21:34,282 --> 00:21:36,987Well, I made a man out of him.
27000:21:37,076 --> 00:21:39,781When he was 16, we had a fight.
27100:21:41,038 --> 00:21:44,158Hit me in the jaw. He was a big kid.
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00:21:46,711 --> 00:21:49,665I haven't seen him for two years.
27300:21:52,091 --> 00:21:54,167Kids.
27400:21:54,593 --> 00:21:56,669You work your heart out...
27500:21:59,180 --> 00:22:02,716
- Well, let's get goin'.- I think we're missing the point.
27600:22:02,810 --> 00:22:06,474This boy's the product of a broken homeand a filthy neighbourhood.
27700:22:06,563 --> 00:22:10,061We can't help that. We're hereto decide his innocence or guilt,
27800:22:10,149 --> 00:22:13,103not to go into the reasonswhy he grew up the way he did.
27900:22:13,194 --> 00:22:17,737He was born in a slum.Slums are breeding grounds for criminals.
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28000:22:17,823 --> 00:22:23,279It's no secret that children from slumsare potential menaces to society. I think...
28100:22:23,370 --> 00:22:27,582You can say that again. The kids whocrawl out of these places are real trash.
28200:22:27,666 --> 00:22:33,087- I don't want any part of them.- Listen, I... I've lived in a slum all my life.
28300:22:33,171 --> 00:22:34,998- Wait a minute.- Please. I...
28400:22:35,090 --> 00:22:38,043I've played in back yardsthat were filled with garbage.
28500:22:38,134 --> 00:22:40,921- Maybe you can still smell it on me.- Listen, sonny...
28600:22:41,012 --> 00:22:43,384Come on, now. There's nothing personal.
28700:22:43,472 --> 00:22:47,056Come on, fella. He didn't mean you.
Let's not be so sensitive.28800:22:47,143 --> 00:22:49,848This sensitivity I can understand.
28900:22:49,937 --> 00:22:54,765OK, look. Let's stop the arguing.We're only wasting time.
29000:22:54,858 --> 00:22:57,349
Your turn down there. Let's go.
29100:22:58,445 --> 00:23:02,360I didn't expect a turn. I thoughtyou were all gonna to try to convince me.
29200:23:02,450 --> 00:23:04,656- That was the idea.
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- I forgot. He's right.
29300:23:04,743 --> 00:23:08,075He's the one keeping us in here.Let's hear what he's got to say.
29400:23:08,162 --> 00:23:12,030Wait. We decided to do this a certain way.I think we ought to stick to it.
29500:23:12,125 --> 00:23:14,413Oh, stop being a kid, will ya?
29600:23:14,502 --> 00:23:19,165- What do you mean, a kid?- What do you think I mean? K-I-D: Kid.
29700:23:21,634 --> 00:23:24,385Just because I'm trying
to keep this organised?29800:23:24,469 --> 00:23:28,681Here, you take on the responsibility.I'll just keep my mouth shut.
29900:23:28,766 --> 00:23:32,135- Why are you gettin' so hot? Calm down.- Don't tell me to calm down.
300
00:23:32,227 --> 00:23:34,600You want to take the chair?Take the chair.
30100:23:34,689 --> 00:23:37,061Did you ever see such a thing?
30200:23:37,149 --> 00:23:40,482- You think it's funny?- Forget it, fella. It's unimportant.
30300:23:40,568 --> 00:23:42,477Unimportant? Here, you try it.
30400:23:42,570 --> 00:23:45,690Nobody wants to change.You're doing a beautiful job.
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00:23:45,782 --> 00:23:51,406Yeah, you're doin' great. Just great, fella.You stay in there and pitch.
30600:23:51,497 --> 00:23:55,113All right, let's hear from somebody.
30700:23:55,207 --> 00:23:59,371Well, if you want me to tell youhow I feel about it, it's all right with me.
30800:23:59,462 --> 00:24:04,420- Boy, I don't care what you do.- All right. I don't have anything brilliant.
30900:24:04,508 --> 00:24:06,667I only know as much as you do.
31000:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,425
According to the testimony,the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is.
31100:24:10,514 --> 00:24:15,222I sat there in court for six dayslistening while the evidence built up.
31200:24:15,310 --> 00:24:17,387Everybody sounded so positive.
313
00:24:17,479 --> 00:24:22,389I began to get a peculiar feeling aboutthis trial. I mean, nothing is that positive.
31400:24:22,483 --> 00:24:26,896There are questions I'd have liked to ask.Maybe they wouldn't mean anything but...
31500:24:26,988 --> 00:24:31,780I felt that the defence wasn't conductinga thorough enough cross-examination.
31600:24:31,867 --> 00:24:34,785He let too many things go by-little things.
31700:24:34,871 --> 00:24:37,705What little things?When they don't ask questions,
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31800:24:37,789 --> 00:24:40,706it's because they knowthe answers already.
31900:24:40,792 --> 00:24:45,704It's also possible for a lawyer to be justplain stupid, isn't it? I mean, it's possible.
32000:24:45,797 --> 00:24:48,881You sound like you metmy brother-in-law once.
32100:24:50,886 --> 00:24:57,255I kept putting myself in the kid's place.I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think.
32200:24:57,349 --> 00:24:59,758I mean, if I was on trial for my life,
32300:24:59,853 --> 00:25:04,847I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecutionwitnesses to shreds, or at least try to.
32400:25:04,941 --> 00:25:09,187Look, there was one allegedeyewitness to this killing.
32500:25:09,278 --> 00:25:12,812Someone else claims he heard the killing,
saw the boy run out after,32600:25:12,906 --> 00:25:15,113and there was circumstantial evidence.
32700:25:15,201 --> 00:25:19,150But those two witnesseswere the entire case for the prosecution.
32800:25:19,246 --> 00:25:20,705
Supposing they're wrong?
32900:25:20,789 --> 00:25:24,122What do you mean? What's the pointof having witnesses at all?
33000:25:24,209 --> 00:25:28,586- Could they be wrong?
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- Those people were under oath.
33100:25:28,671 --> 00:25:32,670They're only people. Peoplemake mistakes. Could they be wrong?
33200:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,843- Well, no. I don't think so.- Do you know so?
33300:25:35,929 --> 00:25:39,379Nobody can know a thing like that.This isn't an exact science.
33400:25:39,473 --> 00:25:41,964That's right, it isn't.
33500:25:45,979 --> 00:25:48,471OK, let's get to the point.
33600:25:48,566 --> 00:25:51,685What about the switch knifethey found in the old man's chest?
33700:25:51,776 --> 00:25:54,979Some people haven't talked yet.Shouldn't we go in order?
33800:25:55,071 --> 00:25:58,654
They'll get a chance to talk.Be quiet a second, will ya?
33900:25:58,742 --> 00:26:03,403What about the knife this fine, upright boyadmitted buying the night of the killing?
34000:26:03,496 --> 00:26:07,114- Let's talk about it.- All right. Let's get it in here and look at it.
34100:26:07,208 --> 00:26:12,249- I'd like to see it again. Mr Foreman?- Why do we have to see it again?
34200:26:12,338 --> 00:26:15,956The gentleman has a rightto see exhibits in evidence.
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34300:26:16,676 --> 00:26:20,009- Say, could you bring us the knife?- The knife? Sure.
34400:26:21,346 --> 00:26:24,964The knife and the way it was boughtis strong evidence, don't you think?
34500:26:25,058 --> 00:26:28,890- I do.- Good. Let's take the facts one at a time.
34600:26:28,978 --> 00:26:32,395One: The boy admitted leaving the houseat eight o'clock at night
34700:26:32,483 --> 00:26:34,689after being slapped by his father.
34800:26:34,776 --> 00:26:39,652No, he didn't say "slapped".He said "punched". There's a difference.
34900:26:39,739 --> 00:26:42,277After being hit several times by his father.
35000:26:42,366 --> 00:26:46,364Two: He went directly to a local junk shopwhere he bought one of those...
35100:26:46,453 --> 00:26:48,862- Switch knives.- Switchblade knives.
35200:26:48,957 --> 00:26:53,664This wasn't an ordinary knife. It hada very unusual carved handle and blade.
35300:26:53,752 --> 00:26:58,295
The storekeeper said it was the only oneof its kind he had ever had in stock.
35400:26:58,382 --> 00:27:03,625Three: He met some friends of his in frontof a tavern about 8.45. Am I right so far?
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- Yes, you are.- You bet he is.
35600:27:05,847 --> 00:27:09,298He talked with his friendsfor an hour, leaving them at 9.45.
35700:27:09,392 --> 00:27:12,180During this time,they saw the switch knife.
35800:27:12,270 --> 00:27:19,151Four: They identified the death weaponin court as that very same knife.
35900:27:19,235 --> 00:27:22,070Five: He arrived homeat about ten o'clock.
360
00:27:22,154 --> 00:27:26,448This is where the stories offeredby the State and the boy diverge slightly.
36100:27:26,533 --> 00:27:29,025He claims that he went to a movieat about 11.30,
36200:27:29,120 --> 00:27:33,413returning home at 3.10 to findhis father dead and himself arrested.
36300:27:33,499 --> 00:27:37,578He also claims that the two detectivesthrew him down a half a flight of stairs.
36400:27:37,669 --> 00:27:41,536What happened to the knife? He claimsit fell through a hole in his pocket
36500:27:41,631 --> 00:27:45,380
on the way to the movies,sometime between 11.30 and 3.10,
36600:27:45,469 --> 00:27:49,134and that he never saw it again.Now, there is a tale, gentlemen.
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38000:28:32,430 --> 00:28:34,636It's a very unusual knife.
38100:28:34,723 --> 00:28:38,970I've never seen one like it. Neither hadthe storekeeper who sold it to the boy.
38200:28:39,061 --> 00:28:42,310Aren't you asking us to acceptan incredible coincidence?
38300:28:42,397 --> 00:28:47,190- I'm just saying a coincidence is possible.- And I say it's not possible.
38400:28:52,991 --> 00:28:54,948Where did that come from?
385
00:28:55,034 --> 00:28:57,821- It's the same knife!- What do you think you're doin'?
38600:28:57,912 --> 00:29:01,613- Where did you get it?- I went out walking last night.
38700:29:01,708 --> 00:29:03,784Through the boy's neighbourhood.
38800:29:03,877 --> 00:29:09,167I bought that at a pawn shop two blocksfrom the boy's house. It cost six dollars.
38900:29:09,256 --> 00:29:12,008It's against the lawto buy or sell switchblade knives.
39000:29:12,092 --> 00:29:15,295- That's right. I broke the law.
- You pulled a real bright trick.
39100:29:15,387 --> 00:29:17,879Now supposing you tell me what it proves.
39200:29:17,974 --> 00:29:21,222- Maybe there are ten knives like that.- Maybe there are!
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39300:29:21,309 --> 00:29:26,304What does it mean? You found a knife likeit. What's that? The discovery of the age?
39400:29:26,398 --> 00:29:30,609You think somebody else did the stabbingwith exactly the same kind of knife?
39500:29:30,693 --> 00:29:33,694- The odds are a million to one.- It's possible!
39600:29:33,780 --> 00:29:37,943- But not very probable.- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
39700:29:38,033 --> 00:29:41,568There's no point standing around
all over the place.39800:29:41,662 --> 00:29:45,363It's interesting that he'd find a knifeexactly like the boy's.
39900:29:45,458 --> 00:29:50,035- What's interesting about it? Interesting!- I just thought it was interesting.
400
00:29:50,128 --> 00:29:52,454Eleven of us still think he's guilty.
40100:29:52,547 --> 00:29:56,379Right. You're not gonnachange anybody's mind.
40200:29:56,468 --> 00:29:58,756If you wanna hang this jury, go ahead.
403
00:29:58,845 --> 00:30:03,009The kid'll be tried againand found guilty, as sure as he's born.
40400:30:03,350 --> 00:30:05,471You're probably right.
40500:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,395
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So, what are you gonna do?We can be here all night.
40600:30:08,479 --> 00:30:11,765It's only one night. A boy may die.
40700:30:11,857 --> 00:30:14,609Well, why don't we justset up house here?
40800:30:14,693 --> 00:30:17,019Someone send for a pinochle deck
40900:30:17,113 --> 00:30:20,777and we'll just sweatthe whole thing out right here.
41000:30:20,865 --> 00:30:24,698- I don't think he oughta joke about it.
- What do you want me to do about it?41100:30:24,787 --> 00:30:27,906I don't see what the knifehas got to do with anything.
41200:30:27,998 --> 00:30:30,915Somebody saw the kid stab his father.What more do we need?
413
00:30:31,001 --> 00:30:33,836You guys can talk the earsright off my head.
41400:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,462I got three garages going to pot.So let's get done and get outta here.
41500:30:38,549 --> 00:30:42,132The knife was important to thedistrict attorney. He spent a day...
41600:30:42,220 --> 00:30:45,055He's a 15th assistant or something.What does he know?
41700:30:45,139 --> 00:30:49,433Let's hold it down. These side argumentsare only slowin' us up.
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41800:30:51,270 --> 00:30:54,638- Well, what about it?- You're the only one.
41900:31:02,030 --> 00:31:08,199I have a proposition to make to all of you.I'm going to call for another vote.
42000:31:08,286 --> 00:31:11,073I want you eleven men to...
42100:31:11,164 --> 00:31:13,571vote by secret written ballot.
42200:31:14,041 --> 00:31:18,667I'll abstain. If there are eleven votesfor guilty, I won't stand alone.
42300:31:18,754 --> 00:31:23,665We'll take in a guilty verdictto the judge right now.
42400:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,966But if anyone votes not guilty,we'll stay here and talk it out.
42500:31:30,849 --> 00:31:35,676- That's it. If you want to try it, I'm ready.
- All right. Let's do it the hard way.42600:31:35,770 --> 00:31:39,603That sounds fair. Everyone agreed?Anyone doesn't agree?
42700:31:39,691 --> 00:31:41,767OK, pass these along.
42800:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,675
Guilty.
42900:32:18,477 --> 00:32:20,137Guilty.
43000:32:21,898 --> 00:32:23,558Guilty.
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43100:32:25,193 --> 00:32:26,852Guilty.
43200:32:28,070 --> 00:32:29,731Guilty.
43300:32:31,116 --> 00:32:32,775Guilty.
43400:32:34,409 --> 00:32:36,069Guilty.
43500:32:36,578 --> 00:32:38,239Guilty.
43600:32:39,248 --> 00:32:40,908Guilty.
43700:32:45,003 --> 00:32:46,996Not guilty.
43800:32:47,089 --> 00:32:48,630Guilty.
43900:32:48,715 --> 00:32:52,878- Boy, how do you like that?- And another chap flips his wings!
44000:32:52,968 --> 00:32:55,804All right. Who was it?Come on, I wanna know.
44100:32:55,889 --> 00:32:59,554Excuse me. This was a secret ballot.We all agreed on that, no?
44200:32:59,642 --> 00:33:02,097If the gentleman
wants it to remain secret...
44300:33:02,186 --> 00:33:07,772Secret? What do you mean? There are nosecrets in a jury room. I know who it was.
44400:33:07,858 --> 00:33:12,105Brother, you really are somethin'.
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You vote guilty like the rest of us,
44500:33:12,196 --> 00:33:15,399then some golden-voiced preachertears your heart out -
44600:33:15,491 --> 00:33:18,775some underprivileged kidcouldn't help becoming a murderer -
44700:33:18,868 --> 00:33:22,617and you change your vote.If that isn't the most sickening...
44800:33:22,706 --> 00:33:26,157Why don't you drop a quarterin his collection box?
44900:33:26,250 --> 00:33:30,913
Oh, now just wait a... Listen, you can't talkto me like that. Who do you think you are?
45000:33:31,006 --> 00:33:33,792Calm down, calm down. It doesn't matter.
45100:33:33,882 --> 00:33:37,501- He's very excitable. Sit down.- Excitable? You bet I'm excitable!
452
00:33:37,595 --> 00:33:40,928We're tryin' to put a guilty manin the chair, where he belongs.
45300:33:41,015 --> 00:33:44,715Someone starts tellin' usfairy tales and we're listenin'!
45400:33:45,395 --> 00:33:50,304- What made you change your vote?- He didn't change his vote. I did.
45500:33:50,398 --> 00:33:52,390- Oh, fine.- I knew it.
45600:33:52,483 --> 00:33:56,351- Would you like me to tell you why?- No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why.
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45700:33:56,446 --> 00:34:00,526- I'd like to anyway, if you don't mind.- Do we have to listen to this?
45800:34:00,617 --> 00:34:04,116- The man wants to talk.- Thank you.
45900:34:04,203 --> 00:34:07,572This gentleman has beenstanding alone against us.
46000:34:07,665 --> 00:34:09,906He doesn't say the boy is not guilty.
46100:34:10,001 --> 00:34:14,912He just isn't sure. It's not easy to standalone against the ridicule of others.
46200:34:15,006 --> 00:34:19,750So he gambled for support and I gave itto him. I respect his motives.
46300:34:19,843 --> 00:34:24,505The boy on trial is probably guilty,but... I want to hear more.
46400:34:24,597 --> 00:34:28,263
The vote is ten to two. I'm talking!You have no right to leave this room!
46500:34:28,352 --> 00:34:31,637He can't hear you. He never will.Let's sit down.
46600:34:36,818 --> 00:34:40,862- Shall we continue?- Well, I think we ought to take a break.
46700:34:40,946 --> 00:34:45,574You know, one man's inside andI think we ought to wait for him.
46800:34:48,328 --> 00:34:51,163Looks like we're reallyhung up here, huh?
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46900:34:51,247 --> 00:34:55,744I mean, that thing with the old man,that was pretty unexpected.
47000:34:55,836 --> 00:34:59,454Wish I could figure out some waywe could break it up.
47100:35:01,300 --> 00:35:05,877You know, in advertising...I told you I worked in an agency?
47200:35:05,970 --> 00:35:09,803Some pretty strange people work there.Well, not strange, really.
47300:35:09,891 --> 00:35:14,185I guess it's just they have peculiar waysof expressing themselves.
47400:35:14,270 --> 00:35:17,271I suppose it's the samein your business too, huh?
47500:35:17,356 --> 00:35:19,894- What do you do?- I'm a watchmaker.
47600:35:19,984 --> 00:35:24,111
Really? I imagine the finest watchmakersin the world come from Europe.
47700:35:24,196 --> 00:35:27,197Anyway, in an agency,when we reach a point like this...
47800:35:27,283 --> 00:35:31,114I'm telling him, in an ad agency whena point like this is reached in a meeting,
47900:35:31,203 --> 00:35:34,322there's always some characterready with an idea, see.
48000:35:34,414 --> 00:35:36,822It kills me. It's the weirdest thing,
481
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00:35:36,916 --> 00:35:39,953the way they sometimes precedetheir idea with a phrase.
48200:35:40,044 --> 00:35:43,745Like, some account execwill get up and he'll say:
48300:35:43,840 --> 00:35:50,173"OK, here's an idea. Let's... run it upthe flagpole and see if anyone salutes it."
48400:35:50,262 --> 00:35:52,800I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny.
48500:35:52,890 --> 00:35:56,508I... got a little excited back there.
48600:35:56,602 --> 00:35:59,556
I... didn't mean to get nasty.48700:36:00,898 --> 00:36:06,235Glad you're not one of those who letsthese emotional appeals influence him.
48800:36:21,333 --> 00:36:24,039I don't know what's the matterwith that fan.
489
00:36:33,804 --> 00:36:37,054- Are you a salesman?- I'm an architect.
49000:36:39,768 --> 00:36:42,603You know what the soft sell is?
49100:36:44,982 --> 00:36:48,017Well, you've got it, believe me.
492
00:36:48,525 --> 00:36:51,064I've got a different technique.
49300:36:51,154 --> 00:36:55,103Laughs, drinks, jokes, tricks. You know?
49400:36:56,117 --> 00:36:58,193Yeah.
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49500:36:58,828 --> 00:37:02,243Hit 'em where they live-that's my motto.
49600:37:02,331 --> 00:37:06,032I made 27 grand last yearsellin' marmalade.
49700:37:06,127 --> 00:37:09,709That's not bad. I mean, you know,considerin' marmalade.
49800:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,546What are you gettin' out of this? Kicks?
49900:37:15,303 --> 00:37:19,002Or did somebody bump you on the headonce and you haven't gotten over it?
50000:37:19,097 --> 00:37:23,426- Maybe.- You know, you do-gooders are all alike.
50100:37:23,518 --> 00:37:28,144You're always blowin' your stacksover some guy that fanned.
50200:37:29,357 --> 00:37:32,061But what are you wastin' our time for?
50300:37:32,151 --> 00:37:37,655Why don't you donate five dollars to thecause? Maybe it'll make you feel better.
50400:37:39,325 --> 00:37:41,483This kid is guilty, pal.
50500:37:41,577 --> 00:37:46,368It's as plain as the nose on your face. So
why don't we stop wastin' our time here?
50600:37:46,455 --> 00:37:49,327We're gonna all get sore throatsif we keep it up.
50700:37:49,417 --> 00:37:53,249What difference does it make
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if you get it here or at the ball game?
50800:37:53,338 --> 00:37:55,746No difference, pal.
50900:37:55,841 --> 00:37:57,917No difference at all.
51000:38:09,603 --> 00:38:14,562- Nice bunch of guys, huh?- They're about the same as anyone else.
51100:38:14,650 --> 00:38:17,140Boy, what a murderous day.
51200:38:17,569 --> 00:38:21,318- Do you think we'll be much longer?- I don't know.
51300:38:21,407 --> 00:38:25,107He's guilty for sure.Not a doubt in the whole world.
51400:38:25,202 --> 00:38:28,950We should've...We should've been done already.
51500:38:29,873 --> 00:38:32,280Oh, I don't mind, you know.
51600:38:32,375 --> 00:38:34,451Beats workin'.
51700:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,295- You think he's not guilty, huh?- I don't know. It's possible.
51800:38:45,386 --> 00:38:49,432Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you've never been wronger in your life.
51900:38:49,516 --> 00:38:51,924You're wastin' your time.You ought to wrap it up.
52000:38:52,018 --> 00:38:54,890Supposing you were the one
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who was on trial?
52100:38:54,980 --> 00:38:58,230Well, I'm not used to supposin'.I'm just a workin' man.
52200:38:58,317 --> 00:39:01,269My boss does the supposin'. But...
52300:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,437I'll try one.
52400:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,690Supposin' you talk us all out of this and...
52500:39:07,784 --> 00:39:11,616the kid really did knife his father, huh?
526
00:39:18,877 --> 00:39:20,917Are you ready?
52700:39:22,381 --> 00:39:24,457Sorry, blue eyes.
52800:39:25,175 --> 00:39:28,296- Well, where else?- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
529
00:39:28,387 --> 00:39:33,048- Looks like we'll be here for dinner.- OK, now let's get down to business.
53000:39:33,141 --> 00:39:34,967- Who wants to start?- I will.
53100:39:35,059 --> 00:39:37,930- OK, go.- You, down there.
53200:39:38,021 --> 00:39:42,065The old man who lived downstairs sayshe heard the kid yell "I'm gonna kill ya."
53300:39:42,150 --> 00:39:44,641A second later,he heard the body hit the floor.
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53400:39:44,735 --> 00:39:49,860He ran to the door and saw the kid run outof the house. What's that mean to you?
53500:39:49,948 --> 00:39:53,532I wonder how clearly he heardthe boy's voice through the ceiling.
53600:39:53,619 --> 00:39:57,699He didn't. The window was open. So wasthe one upstairs. It was a hot night.
53700:39:57,790 --> 00:40:01,372It was another apartment.It's not easy to identify a shouting voice.
53800:40:01,460 --> 00:40:03,286He identified it in court.
53900:40:03,378 --> 00:40:07,838The lady across the street looked right inthe open window and saw the stabbing.
54000:40:07,924 --> 00:40:10,416- Isn't that enough for you?- No, it isn't.
54100:40:10,511 --> 00:40:14,258
Boy, how do you like this guy?It's like talkin' into a dead phone.
54200:40:14,346 --> 00:40:17,430She said she saw it throughthe windows of a moving el train.
54300:40:17,516 --> 00:40:21,051There were six cars on the train.She saw it through the last two.
54400:40:21,145 --> 00:40:25,142She remembered insignificant details.How can you argue with that?
54500:40:25,232 --> 00:40:30,570Has anybody here any ideahow long it would take an el...
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54600:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,571This isn't a game.
54700:40:45,752 --> 00:40:48,077Did you see him?
54800:40:48,170 --> 00:40:51,457The nerve! The absolute nerve!
54900:40:51,549 --> 00:40:55,381- Forget it. It's not important.- This isn't a game?
55000:40:55,470 --> 00:40:58,884- Who does he think he is?- Forget it now.
55100:40:58,972 --> 00:41:04,263
Any idea how long it takes an el trainat medium speed to pass a given point?
55200:41:04,353 --> 00:41:06,226- What has that to do with it?- Guess.
55300:41:06,313 --> 00:41:08,686- I wouldn't have any idea.- What do you think?
55400:41:08,774 --> 00:41:13,482- I don't know. Ten, twelve seconds?- A pretty good guess. Anyone else?
55500:41:13,569 --> 00:41:16,238- Sounds right to me.- What's the guessing game for?
55600:41:16,322 --> 00:41:18,196- What do you say?
- Ten seconds.
55700:41:18,283 --> 00:41:21,568- All right. What are you getting at?- This.
55800:41:21,661 --> 00:41:25,327It takes a six-car el train
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ten seconds to pass a given point.
55900:41:25,415 --> 00:41:29,874Say the given point is the open windowof the room where the killing took place.
56000:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,961You can reach outand almost touch the el tracks, right?
56100:41:33,046 --> 00:41:36,914Now let me ask you this. Has anyonehere ever lived near the el tracks?
56200:41:37,009 --> 00:41:41,802I just finished painting an apartment thatoverlooked an el line. It took three days.
56300:41:41,889 --> 00:41:46,265
- What was it like? Noisy?- Oh, brother! No matter. We were punchy.
56400:41:46,351 --> 00:41:49,055I lived in an apartmentnear the el line once.
56500:41:49,145 --> 00:41:52,265When the window's open,the train noise is almost unbearable.
56600:41:52,357 --> 00:41:56,057- You can hardly hear yourself think.- Will you get to the point?
56700:41:56,152 --> 00:42:01,229I will. Now, let's take two pieces oftestimony and try to put them together.
56800:42:01,323 --> 00:42:05,535First: The old man
in the apartment downstairs.
56900:42:05,619 --> 00:42:08,158He says he heard the boy say"I'm gonna kill you",
57000:42:08,247 --> 00:42:10,916and a split second later
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heard a body hit the floor.
57100:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,742- One second later.- Right.
57200:42:12,834 --> 00:42:15,539Second: The woman across the street
57300:42:15,629 --> 00:42:19,673swore positively she lookedout of the window and saw the killing
57400:42:19,758 --> 00:42:23,173through the last two carsof a passing el train-the last two cars.
57500:42:23,261 --> 00:42:26,013- What are you givin' us here?
- Now, just a minute.57600:42:26,098 --> 00:42:31,257We've agreed that it takes ten secondsfor a train to pass a given point.
57700:42:31,351 --> 00:42:34,555Since the woman saw the killingthrough the last two cars,
578
00:42:34,647 --> 00:42:40,068we can assume that the body hitthe floor just as the train went by.
57900:42:40,153 --> 00:42:44,445Therefore, the train had beenroaring by the old man's window
58000:42:44,531 --> 00:42:47,947a full ten secondsbefore the body hit the floor.
58100:42:48,034 --> 00:42:53,242The old man - "I'm gonna kill you",body hitting the floor a second later -
58200:42:53,332 --> 00:42:57,495would have had to hear the boy's wordswith the el roaring past his nose!
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58300:42:57,585 --> 00:43:00,503- It's not possible he heard it.- Of course he heard it.
58400:43:00,588 --> 00:43:03,921- Do you think so?- He said he yelled at the top of his voice.
58500:43:04,008 --> 00:43:07,259He couldn't have identified the voicewith the el roaring by.
58600:43:07,345 --> 00:43:10,180It was a matter of seconds!Nobody can be that accurate.
58700:43:10,264 --> 00:43:15,471Testimony that could put a boy into the
electric chair shou/d be that accurate.58800:43:17,021 --> 00:43:21,433- I don't think he could have heard it.- Maybe he didn't, with all that el noise.
58900:43:21,525 --> 00:43:25,439- What are you people talkin' about?- It stands to reason he couldn't have.
590
00:43:25,529 --> 00:43:29,608- Why lie? What's he got to gain?- Attention, maybe.
59100:43:29,699 --> 00:43:34,906You keep comin' in with bright sayings.Send 'em to a paper! They pay $3 apiece!
59200:43:34,996 --> 00:43:37,783What are you talkin' to him like that for?
59300:43:37,874 --> 00:43:41,409A guy who talks like that to an old manreally oughta get stepped on.
59400:43:41,503 --> 00:43:44,538You oughta have more respect, mister.
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00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:49,707You say stuff like that to him again...I'm gonna lay you out.
59600:43:59,144 --> 00:44:02,014You go ahead. You say anything you like.
59700:44:03,106 --> 00:44:06,226Why do you think the old man might lie?
59800:44:06,318 --> 00:44:10,362It was just that I looked at himfor a very long time.
59900:44:10,447 --> 00:44:13,696The seam of his jacket was split,under the shoulder.
60000:44:13,783 --> 00:44:18,160
Did you notice that?I mean, to come into court like that.
60100:44:20,665 --> 00:44:24,034He was a very old man in a torn jacket.
60200:44:24,544 --> 00:44:28,041And he walked very slowly to the stand.
60300:44:28,129 --> 00:44:32,424
He was dragging his left legand trying to hide it,
60400:44:32,509 --> 00:44:35,047because he was ashamed.
60500:44:35,136 --> 00:44:39,348I think I know this manbetter than anyone here.
606
00:44:39,433 --> 00:44:42,267This is a quiet, frightened,
60700:44:42,351 --> 00:44:44,807insignificant old man who...
60800:44:44,895 --> 00:44:47,648who has been nothing all his life.
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60900:44:47,732 --> 00:44:52,643Who has never had recognitionor his name in the newspapers.
61000:44:52,737 --> 00:44:56,948Nobody knows him. Nobody quotes him.
61100:44:57,032 --> 00:45:00,780Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
61200:45:01,745 --> 00:45:06,372Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing -to mean nothing.
61300:45:06,458 --> 00:45:11,285A man like this needs to be quoted,to be listened to.
61400:45:11,421 --> 00:45:15,501To be quoted just once -very important to him.
61500:45:15,591 --> 00:45:18,627It would be so hard for himto recede into the background.
61600:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,800Wait a minute. Are you tellin' us he'd lie
just so he could be important once?61700:45:22,891 --> 00:45:25,725No. He wouldn't really lie.
61800:45:25,810 --> 00:45:29,179But perhaps he made himself believehe heard those words
61900:45:29,271 --> 00:45:31,596
and recognised the boy's face.
62000:45:31,690 --> 00:45:34,098That's the most fantastic story ever.
62100:45:34,192 --> 00:45:38,107How can you make up a thing like that?What do you know about it?
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62200:45:46,913 --> 00:45:50,412- Does anybody want a cough drop?- I'll take one.
62300:45:50,500 --> 00:45:54,083I still don't see how anybodycan think he's not guilty.
62400:45:54,171 --> 00:45:58,333There's something else I'd liketo talk about for a minute. Thanks.
62500:45:58,424 --> 00:46:02,469We've proved the old man couldn't haveheard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you."
62600:46:02,553 --> 00:46:06,467- You didn't prove it at all!
- Wait. Supposing he really did hear it?62700:46:06,557 --> 00:46:10,425This phrase, how many times haveall of us used it? Probably thousands.
62800:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,513"I could kill you for that." "Junior, do thatagain and I'll kill you." "Rocky, kill him."
629
00:46:15,607 --> 00:46:20,814- It doesn't mean we'd really kill anybody.- The phrase was: "I'm gonna kill you."
63000:46:20,904 --> 00:46:23,193The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs.
63100:46:23,281 --> 00:46:26,899Don't tell me he didn't mean it.Anybody says it like that, they mean it!
63200:46:26,993 --> 00:46:28,902Gee, I don't know.
63300:46:28,995 --> 00:46:32,743I was arguing with the guy I work next toat the bank a few weeks ago.
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00:46:32,831 --> 00:46:35,288He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.
63500:46:35,376 --> 00:46:38,163This guy is trying to make youbelieve what isn't so!
63600:46:38,254 --> 00:46:40,330The kid said he'd kill him and he did!
63700:46:40,422 --> 00:46:45,084Do you really think the boy'd shout it outso the whole neighbourhood could hear?
63800:46:45,177 --> 00:46:50,088- He's much too bright for that.- Bright? He's a common, ignorant slob.
63900:46:50,181 --> 00:46:52,258
He don't even speak good English.64000:46:52,351 --> 00:46:55,801He doesn't even speak good English.
64100:46:57,313 --> 00:47:01,181Mr Foreman, I'd like tochange my vote to not guilty.
64200:47:01,818 --> 00:47:03,941
- You what?- You heard me.
64300:47:04,028 --> 00:47:07,479- Are you sure?- Yeah, I'm sure.
64400:47:07,573 --> 00:47:10,242The vote is nine to threein favour of guilty.
64500:47:10,325 --> 00:47:12,816Well, if this isn't the livin' end!
64600:47:16,957 --> 00:47:20,540What are you basin' it on?Stories this guy made up?
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00:47:20,627 --> 00:47:24,708You oughta write for one of those kookydetective magazines, make a fortune.
64800:47:24,799 --> 00:47:28,463For cryin' out loud, the kid's own lawyerknew he didn't stand a chance.
64900:47:28,551 --> 00:47:32,086Right from the beginning, his ownlawyer knew, and you could see it.
65000:47:32,179 --> 00:47:36,392Boy, oh boy, I'm telling ya.This guy here is really somethin'.
65100:47:36,476 --> 00:47:39,844The kid had a lawyer, didn't he?He presented his case, not you.
65200:47:39,936 --> 00:47:42,808- How come you say so much?- Lawyers aren't infallible.
65300:47:42,898 --> 00:47:45,934- Baltimore, please.- He was court-appointed.
65400:47:46,026 --> 00:47:48,232- What's that supposed to mean?
- A lot.65500:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,571He didn't want the caseor he resented being appointed.
65600:47:51,657 --> 00:47:56,117It's the kind of case that brings no money,no glory, not much chance of winning.
657
00:47:56,202 --> 00:47:59,322That's not a very promisingsituation for a young lawyer.
65800:47:59,414 --> 00:48:04,325He'd really have to believe in his client toput up a good case. Obviously he didn't.
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00:48:47,835 --> 00:48:50,373Now, how was he caught by the police?
67300:48:50,463 --> 00:48:54,590He came back home...at three o'clock or so,
67400:48:54,674 --> 00:48:58,459and he was captured by two detectivesin the hallway of his house.
67500:48:58,554 --> 00:49:03,180Now, my question is:If he really had killed his father,
67600:49:03,266 --> 00:49:06,718why would he come back homethree hours later?
677
00:49:06,812 --> 00:49:09,681Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught?
67800:49:09,772 --> 00:49:13,853He came home for his knife. It's not niceto leave knives in people's chests.
67900:49:13,944 --> 00:49:16,778Yeah, especially relatives'.
680
00:49:16,863 --> 00:49:19,484I don't see anything funny about it.
68100:49:19,574 --> 00:49:22,777The boy knew the knifecould be identified.
68200:49:22,869 --> 00:49:27,364- He had to get it before the police did.- If he knew the knife could be identified,
68300:49:27,456 --> 00:49:30,078why did he leave it there in the first place?
68400:49:30,167 --> 00:49:35,623I think we can assume the boy ran out in astate of panic, having just killed his father.
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00:49:35,714 --> 00:49:38,716He calmed down and realisedhe'd left his knife there.
68600:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,717This, then, dependson your definition of panic.
68700:49:41,803 --> 00:49:46,761He would have had to be calm enough towipe off any fingerprints left on the knife.
68800:49:46,850 --> 00:49:50,717Now, where did this panic startand where did it end?
68900:49:50,812 --> 00:49:53,599You voted guilty. What side are you on?
690
00:49:53,689 --> 00:49:56,856I don't believe I have to be loyalto one side or the other.
69100:49:56,942 --> 00:50:02,185- I'm simply asking questions.- This is just off the top of my head but...
69200:50:02,281 --> 00:50:06,493If /'d done the stabbing, I'd take a chanceand go back for the knife.
69300:50:06,577 --> 00:50:09,149I'll bet he figurednobody'd seen him running out
69400:50:09,245 --> 00:50:12,033and the body wouldn't be discoveredtill the next day.
69500:50:12,124 --> 00:50:16,335
After all, it was the middle of the night.He figured it'd be found the next day.
69600:50:16,419 --> 00:50:18,459Pardon. This is my whole point.
69700:50:18,546 --> 00:50:22,545The woman across the street testified
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that the moment after she saw the killing,
69800:50:22,634 --> 00:50:24,875that is, a moment after the train went by,
69900:50:24,969 --> 00:50:28,135she screamed, and then wentto telephone the police.
70000:50:28,222 --> 00:50:31,757Now, the boy certainlymust have heard the scream.
70100:50:31,851 --> 00:50:35,101So he knew thatsomebody saw something.
70200:50:35,187 --> 00:50:38,058I just don't think
that he would have gone back.70300:50:38,149 --> 00:50:42,774Two things. One: He may not have heardthe scream. Perhaps it wasn't very loud.
70400:50:42,861 --> 00:50:46,195Two: If he did, he may nothave connected it with his own acts.
705
00:50:46,281 --> 00:50:49,318He lived in a neighbourhoodwhere screams were commonplace.
70600:50:49,409 --> 00:50:53,786- There's your answer.- Maybe. Maybe the boy did kill his father.
70700:50:53,872 --> 00:50:56,279Didn't hear the scream,did run out in a panic,
70800:50:56,374 --> 00:51:01,249calmed down later and came back for theknife, risking being caught by the police.
70900:51:01,337 --> 00:51:04,291Maybe those things happened,but maybe they didn't.
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71000:51:04,382 --> 00:51:08,628There's enough doubt to wonder if he wasthere at all at the time of the killing.
71100:51:08,718 --> 00:51:12,170What do you mean? Didn't the old mansee him running out of the house?
71200:51:12,264 --> 00:51:14,091He's twisting the facts.
71300:51:14,183 --> 00:51:17,765Did or didn't the old man see the kidrunning out of the house at 12.10?
71400:51:17,853 --> 00:51:20,523- Well, did or didn't he?- He says he did.
71500:51:20,606 --> 00:51:23,060Says he did? Boy, how do you like that?
71600:51:23,149 --> 00:51:26,268- Witnesses can make mistakes.- Sure, when you want them to!
71700:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,066- Or when he wants them to!
- Keep the yelling down.71800:51:29,155 --> 00:51:33,983Maybe we need a little yelling. Theseguys keep going off every which way.
71900:51:34,076 --> 00:51:37,363Did hear the scream, didn't hear it -what difference does it make?
720
00:51:37,455 --> 00:51:41,321You're talking about little detailsand forgetting the important stuff.
72100:51:41,416 --> 00:51:44,086- I call for another vote.- I'm talking here!
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00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:46,246Another vote called for.
72300:51:46,338 --> 00:51:48,829Now let's take our seats.
72400:51:51,927 --> 00:51:54,382I never saw so much timespent on nothin'.
72500:51:54,471 --> 00:51:56,759It only takes a second.
72600:51:57,432 --> 00:52:00,848OK, I guess the fastest way isto find out who's voting not guilty.
72700:52:00,936 --> 00:52:04,720All those voting not guilty,
please raise your hands.72800:52:04,814 --> 00:52:08,431Still the same. One, two, threenot guilty. Nine guilty.
72900:52:08,525 --> 00:52:13,484So now where are we? We can yakety-yaktill next Tuesday. Where's it getting us?
730
00:52:13,572 --> 00:52:16,608Pardon. I vote not guilty.
73100:52:18,661 --> 00:52:23,037What are you talkin' about? I mean,we're all goin' crazy in here or somethin'.
73200:52:23,123 --> 00:52:26,539The kid is guilty.Why don't you listen to the facts?
73300:52:26,627 --> 00:52:29,200Tell them, will ya?This is gettin' to be a joke.
73400:52:29,296 --> 00:52:32,664The vote is eight to four in favour of guilty.
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00:52:32,757 --> 00:52:36,506What is this?Love Your Underprivileged Brother Week?
73600:52:36,595 --> 00:52:40,259I want you to tell me whyyou changed your vote. Give me reasons.
73700:52:40,347 --> 00:52:44,926I don't have to defend my decision to you.There is a reasonable doubt in my mind.
73800:52:45,019 --> 00:52:47,973Reasonable doubt?Nothing but words. Look at this.
73900:52:48,064 --> 00:52:53,058The kid you just decided isn't guiltywas seen ramming this into his father!
74000:52:53,151 --> 00:52:58,027- What about this, Mr Reasonable Doubt?- That's not the knife, remember?
74100:52:58,114 --> 00:53:02,693- Oh, brilliant!- I'm tellin' you, this is the craziest.
74200:53:02,786 --> 00:53:07,744I mean, what are we supposed to believe?
You're pullin' stories out of thin air.74300:53:07,832 --> 00:53:11,664A guy like this, if he's sittin' ringsideat the Dempsey-Firpo fight,
74400:53:11,753 --> 00:53:13,579he'd be trying to tell you that...
74500:53:14,130 --> 00:53:16,419
Look. Now what about the old man?
74600:53:16,508 --> 00:53:20,208Are we supposed to believe he didn'tsee the kid tearin' down the steps
74700:53:20,303 --> 00:53:22,25915 seconds after the killing?
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74800:53:22,387 --> 00:53:25,009He's just sayin' so to be important, right?
74900:53:25,099 --> 00:53:27,222- What's the point of it all?- Hold it.
75000:53:27,309 --> 00:53:29,598The Baltimore rooter is heard from again.
75100:53:29,686 --> 00:53:33,222- And pop-ups are fallin' for base hits.- Hold on a second. Look.
75200:53:33,316 --> 00:53:36,849- Did the old man say he ran to the door?- What's the difference?
75300:53:36,943 --> 00:53:41,024- He got there, didn't he?- He said he ran. At least I think he did.
75400:53:41,114 --> 00:53:44,317I don't remember, but I don't seehow he could have run.
75500:53:44,409 --> 00:53:47,991He said he went from his bedroom
to the front door. Isn't that enough?75600:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,535- Where was the bedroom?- Down the hall.
75700:53:50,624 --> 00:53:53,374- Don't you remember that?- No.
758
00:53:53,459 --> 00:53:58,536- I want to see a diagram of the apartment.- Why don't we have him on trial again?
75900:53:58,631 --> 00:54:00,919You're the only onewants to see exhibits.
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00:54:01,008 --> 00:54:04,341- I want to see this one, too.- I'd like to stop wastin' time.
76100:54:04,428 --> 00:54:07,678If we're gonna wade throughthat nonsense about the body...
76200:54:07,764 --> 00:54:13,220No, but I'd like to know if an old manwho drags one foot cos he had a stroke
76300:54:13,311 --> 00:54:16,099can get from his bedroomto his front door in 15 seconds.
76400:54:16,189 --> 00:54:17,933- He said 20.- He said 15.
76500:54:18,024 --> 00:54:21,688- 20. What are you tryin' to distort?- He said 15.
76600:54:21,777 --> 00:54:24,944How does he know how long15 seconds is? You can't judge that.
76700:54:25,031 --> 00:54:27,568He said 15. He was positive about it.
76800:54:27,658 --> 00:54:29,900He was an old man! He was confused!
76900:54:29,993 --> 00:54:33,612How could he be positive about anything?
77000:54:40,212 --> 00:54:44,340I don't see what you're going to prove.The man said he saw the boy running out.
77100:54:44,424 --> 00:54:47,709Let's see if the details bear him out.As the body hit the floor,
77200:54:47,803 --> 00:54:51,218he said he heard footsteps upstairs,running to the front door.
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77300:54:51,305 --> 00:54:54,508Heard the upstairs door open,the footsteps start down.
77400:54:54,600 --> 00:55:00,354He said he got to his own door in, at most,15 seconds. If the killer ran immediately...
77500:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,013- Maybe he didn't.- The old man said he did.
77600:55:03,109 --> 00:55:06,442You oughta be atthat hair-splitters' convention.
77700:55:06,528 --> 00:55:08,853Why don't you stop
making smart remarks?77800:55:08,947 --> 00:55:13,526My friend, for your three dollars a day,you have to listen to everything.
77900:55:13,619 --> 00:55:19,538Here's the apartment. The old man's wasdirectly beneath and exactly the same.
780
00:55:19,624 --> 00:55:24,867Here are the el tracks, the bedroom, livingroom, kitchen, bathroom, hall, stairs.
78100:55:24,963 --> 00:55:27,204The old man was in this bedroom here.
78200:55:27,298 --> 00:55:30,668He says he crossed to the door,walked down the hall, opened the door
78300:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,046just in time to see the boyrunning down the stairs. Am I right?
78400:55:34,138 --> 00:55:36,462That's the story, for the 19th time.
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00:55:36,556 --> 00:55:40,056- 15 seconds after the body hit the floor.- Correct.
78600:55:40,144 --> 00:55:42,220Now, let's see. It was...
78700:55:42,312 --> 00:55:46,096It's 12 feet from the bed to the door.The hall is 43 feet.
78800:55:46,191 --> 00:55:49,643He would have had to walk 12 feet,open the bedroom door,
78900:55:49,737 --> 00:55:53,318walk 43 feet down and openthe front door, all in 15 seconds.
790
00:55:53,406 --> 00:55:55,483- Could he have done it?- Sure.
79100:55:55,575 --> 00:55:58,576He walks slowly. He needed helpinto the witness chair.
79200:55:58,661 --> 00:56:04,001- You make it sound like a long walk.- For an old man who had a stroke, it is.
79300:56:04,084 --> 00:56:06,656- What are you doin'?- I'm gonna try it.
79400:56:06,752 --> 00:56:09,753What do you mean?Why didn't his lawyer bring it up?
79500:56:09,838 --> 00:56:13,967
- Maybe he just didn't think of it.- Do you think he's an idiot? It's obvious.
79600:56:14,051 --> 00:56:17,087- Did you think of it?- It don't matter. He didn't bring it up
79700:56:17,179 --> 00:56:19,172
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00:57:04,141 --> 00:57:08,469Will you stand there and mark the frontdoor? It was chain-locked, remember.
81100:57:08,561 --> 00:57:10,934- Who's got a watch with a second hand?- I have.
81200:57:11,022 --> 00:57:15,434Stamp your foot. That'll be the bodyfalling. You can time me from there.
81300:57:15,526 --> 00:57:19,571- What are we gonna do, play charades?- What are we waiting for?
81400:57:19,656 --> 00:57:22,062I wanna wait tillthe second hand reaches 60.
81500:57:22,157 --> 00:57:24,233Aw, come on!
81600:57:30,499 --> 00:57:34,827Come on, speed it up.He can walk twice as fast as that.
81700:57:34,919 --> 00:57:38,668If you want me to walkfaster than that, I will.
81800:57:54,313 --> 00:57:57,516- Lock. Door. Stop.- Right.
81900:57:57,608 --> 00:57:59,600What's the time?
82000:57:59,693 --> 00:58:02,897Exactly... 41 seconds.
82100:58:02,989 --> 00:58:07,483This is what I think happened. The oldman heard the fight a few hours earlier.
82200:58:07,575 --> 00:58:10,245When he's in bed,he heard the body hit the floor,
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82300:58:10,328 --> 00:58:13,863heard the woman scream, got tohis front door as fast as he could,
82400:58:13,957 --> 00:58:16,530heard somebody runningand assumed it was the boy.
82500:58:16,626 --> 00:58:19,745- I think that's possible.- Assumed?
82600:58:21,213 --> 00:58:24,167Brother, I've seen all kindsof dishonesty in my day,
82700:58:24,258 --> 00:58:27,212but this little display takes the cake.
82800:58:27,303 --> 00:58:32,214You all come in here with your heartsbleedin' about slum kids and injustice.
82900:58:32,308 --> 00:58:36,601You listen to some fairy tales. You startgetting through to these old ladies.
83000:58:36,686 --> 00:58:39,557
You're not getting through to me.I've had enough.
83100:58:39,647 --> 00:58:43,860What's the matter with you guys?You all know he's guilty! He's got to burn!
83200:58:43,944 --> 00:58:47,360- He'll slip through our fingers.- Slip through our fingers?
83300:58:47,447 --> 00:58:51,361- Are you his executioner?- I'm one of 'em.
83400:58:51,451 --> 00:58:55,400- Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch.- For this kid, you bet I would.
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83500:58:55,496 --> 00:58:59,364I feel sorry for you. What it mustfeel like to wanna pull the switch!
83600:58:59,459 --> 00:59:03,456Ever since you walked in, you've actedlike a self-appointed public avenger.
83700:59:03,546 --> 00:59:07,590You want to see this boy die becauseyou want it, not because of the facts.
83800:59:07,675 --> 00:59:10,212- You're a sadist.- You...
83900:59:10,302 --> 00:59:14,050Let me go! I'll kill him! I'll kill him!
84000:59:14,139 --> 00:59:17,425You don't really meanyou'll kill me, do you?
84100:59:23,857 --> 00:59:27,640- Anything wrong? I heard some noise.- No, everything's all right.
84200:59:27,735 --> 00:59:30,487We're just... Friendly little argument.
84300:59:30,571 --> 00:59:35,778We're through with that diagram.You can take it if you want. Here you are.
84400:59:42,374 --> 00:59:44,865What are you lookin' at?
84501:00:05,145 --> 01:00:08,016- Somebody has to start off again.
- I beg pardon...
84601:00:08,107 --> 01:00:11,024"I beg pardon."What are you so polite about?
84701:00:11,110 --> 01:00:16,270For the same reason you're not.
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It's the way I was brought up.
84801:00:17,283 --> 01:00:21,231This fighting... That's notwhy we are here, to fight.
84901:00:21,327 --> 01:00:23,819We have a responsibility.
85001:00:24,956 --> 01:00:29,369This, I have always thought,is a remarkable thing about democracy.
85101:00:29,460 --> 01:00:31,750That we are...
85201:00:33,172 --> 01:00:35,248What is the word?
85301:00:35,341 --> 01:00:39,671Notified. That we are notified by mailto come down to this place
85401:00:39,762 --> 01:00:47,057to decide on the guilt or innocence of aman we... we have never heard of before.
85501:00:47,144 --> 01:00:52,351We have nothing to gain or lose
by... by our verdict.85601:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,653This is one of the reasonswhy we are strong.
85701:00:56,737 --> 01:01:00,686We should not make it a... personal thing.
85801:01:04,244 --> 01:01:07,862
If nobody else has an idea,I might have a cutie here.
85901:01:07,955 --> 01:01:10,493Let's throw it outand see if the cat licks it up.
86001:01:10,583 --> 01:01:13,039
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- The cat licks it up?- Yeah. The boy...
86101:01:17,672 --> 01:01:23,094Look how dark it's gettin' out there.I bet we're gonna have a storm now.
86201:01:24,138 --> 01:01:27,423Boy, oh boy. It's really hot, huh?
86301:01:28,141 --> 01:01:33,383- Pardon me, but... don't you ever sweat?- No, I don't.
86401:01:34,730 --> 01:01:38,017Listen. I... I was wonderin' if...
86501:01:39,444 --> 01:01:42,314Maybe... maybe we should
take another vote.86601:01:42,405 --> 01:01:47,695Great. Maybe we can follow this one upwith a little dancing and refreshments!
86701:01:47,785 --> 01:01:50,904- Mr Foreman?- Well, that's OK with me.
868
01:01:50,996 --> 01:01:54,745Anyone doesn't wanna vote?Hey, come on.
86901:01:55,626 --> 01:01:58,580- Sorry.- I think we ought to have an open ballot.
87001:01:58,671 --> 01:02:01,956Call out our votes, you know?Let's see who stands where.
87101:02:02,049 --> 01:02:05,583Well, that sounds fair to me.Anyone object?
87201:02:07,387 --> 01:02:10,921OK. I'll call off your jury numbers. One?
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87301:02:11,015 --> 01:02:14,266Oh, that's me. I vote guilty. Two?
87401:02:15,770 --> 01:02:17,678Not guilty.
87501:02:17,771 --> 01:02:19,515Number three?
87601:02:19,607 --> 01:02:21,516Guilty.
87701:02:21,609 --> 01:02:23,685Number four?
87801:02:24,904 --> 01:02:26,563Guilty.
87901:02:26,655 --> 01:02:28,198Number five?
88001:02:28,283 --> 01:02:30,358Not guilty.
88101:02:30,451 --> 01:02:32,573Number six?
882
01:02:32,660 --> 01:02:34,617Not guilty.
88301:02:34,704 --> 01:02:36,413Number seven?
88401:02:36,498 --> 01:02:38,289Guilty.
88501:02:38,375 --> 01:02:40,249
Number eight?
88601:02:40,335 --> 01:02:42,411Not guilty.
88701:02:43,546 --> 01:02:46,501- Number nine?- Not guilty.
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88801:02:46,592 --> 01:02:49,544- Number ten?- Guilty.
88901:02:50,427 --> 01:02:52,420Number eleven?
89001:02:52,513 --> 01:02:54,340Not guilty.
89101:02:54,432 --> 01:02:56,508Number twelve?
89201:02:56,893 --> 01:02:59,134Number twelve!
89301:02:59,228 --> 01:03:01,518
Guilty.89401:03:06,818 --> 01:03:09,487The vote is now six to six.
89501:03:09,571 --> 01:03:12,489And we go into extra innings here, eh?
89601:03:13,909 --> 01:03:19,151Six to six! I'm telling you, some of you
people in here must be out of your minds.89701:03:19,247 --> 01:03:20,824A kid like that!
89801:03:20,915 --> 01:03:24,366I don't think the kind of boy he ishas anything to do with it.
89901:03:24,460 --> 01:03:27,212
- Facts determine the case.- Don't give me that!
90001:03:27,297 --> 01:03:30,500I'm sick and tired of facts.You can twist 'em any way you like.
90101:03:30,592 --> 01:03:33,876
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That's exactly the pointthis gentleman has been making.
90201:03:33,969 --> 01:03:36,756You keep shoutingat the top of your lungs...
90301:03:38,057 --> 01:03:42,184I'd like to be a few years younger.That man gets on my...
90401:03:45,564 --> 01:03:48,054- My, it's hot in here.- Want a drink of water?
90501:03:48,149 --> 01:03:50,225No, no. Thanks. Thanks.
90601:03:59,828 --> 01:04:04,323
- It's gonna rain.- Well, how'd you figure that out, killer?
90701:04:05,332 --> 01:04:09,876- How come you changed your vote?- It just seemed there was room for doubt.
90801:04:09,962 --> 01:04:12,998- You haven't got a leg to stand on.- I don't feel that way.
90901:04:13,090 --> 01:04:16,292- A lot of details never came out.- Yeah, well, good luck.
91001:04:16,384 --> 01:04:22,138Come on. You're like everybody else.You think too much, you get mixed up.
91101:04:22,223 --> 01:04:26,222- You know what I mean?
- I don't think you have any right to...
91201:04:26,311 --> 01:04:28,387Loudmouth.
91301:05:21,655 --> 01:05:24,692Look at that come down, will ya?
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91401:05:25,284 --> 01:05:29,910You know, this reminds meof a storm we had last...
91501:05:31,288 --> 01:05:34,907Was it November?I don't know. Something.
91601:05:35,001 --> 01:05:38,868It was quite a storm we had.It was right in the middle of a game.
91701:05:38,963 --> 01:05:44,005We were behind-seven to six. We'd juststarted to move the ball, made a tackle.
91801:05:44,093 --> 01:05:48,885It was gonna cut right in, slash through,slashed right in, cut right through...
91901:05:48,973 --> 01:05:51,049And...
92001:05:51,559 --> 01:05:54,049We had this kid - Slattery.
92101:05:55,103 --> 01:05:57,595He was an ox. A real ox.
92201:05:58,441 --> 01:06:00,847I wish I had another one just like him.
92301:06:00,942 --> 01:06:05,403I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant headcoach at Andrew J McCorkle High School.
92401:06:05,489 --> 01:06:07,730That's out in Queens.
92501:06:07,824 --> 01:06:12,486And anyway... we're startingto move along real nice.
92601:06:12,578 --> 01:06:17,287You know, their whole line is just...just comin' apart.
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92701:06:17,374 --> 01:06:20,992And it starts to come down,cats and dogs, just like this.
92801:06:21,086 --> 01:06:24,871Just... whoosh! You know, right down.
92901:06:24,966 --> 01:06:28,417Well, it was mu