My nana’s had a hip hop: Young people speaking out

Dr. Fiona Beals

Young people do express themselves – It’s our job to

listen

Subcultures and Countercultures

Subcultures

• A reflection on history and the discovery of a sociology of youth

• An acknowledgment of voice expressed in style and resistance

• A platform for young people to express themselves without having to be seen as an individual

• A theory that has been, perhaps, over critiqued

Subcultures

• Recognised by a style– Fashion– Music– Past-times

• Recognised by an active resistance – Drugs (-/+)– Deviance (-/+)– Writing (in various forms)

• Often led to stereotypes• Often seen as a ‘youth’ fad

Listening to the Message

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RIP IT UP

'Cause it's Saturday nite and I just got paidFool about my money don't try to saveMy heart says go, goHave a time 'cause it's Saturday niteAnd I'm feelin' fine

I'm gonna rip it upI'm gonna rock it upI'm gonna shake it upI'm gonna ball it upI'm gonna rip it upAnd ball tonite

I got a date and I won't be latePick her up in my '88'Shag it on down to the union hallWhen the music starts jumpin'I'll have a ball

Along about 10 I'll be flying highRocking on out into the skyI don't care if I spend my gold'Cause tonite I'm gonna be one happy soul

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In Dulce Decorum (The Damned)

Dear mother how I will write this lineWhen I know I'm counting time

I'm tired and I'm scaredI'm waiting and death's my friendTo say in God we trust not for this

Oh the death and glory boys not for thisDear beloved try to write to you

Through the senseless deaths of a million troopsI'm waiting my time is near

As my tears wash away my yearsTo say in God we trust not for this

Oh the death and glory boys not for thisWhere I walk where I see

The haunting flares where my friends bleedI see the face of the enemy

Of a man or boy who is just like meNow you're not thereAll the tears we bled

Cut through like winters rainCan't you feel the pain

And if I could ever sleep againI know till the end of time I'd hear

Their screams of painDulce dulce decorum, Dulce dulce decorum, Dulce

Dear mother I'll write to you

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Fuck The World 2Pac

Haha, what you say? Who you callin rapist? Ain't that a bitch You devils, are so two faceted Wanna see me locked in chains, dropped in shame and gettin stalked by these crooked cops a-gain Fuckin with the young black male, tryin to stack mail and umm, stay away from the packed jails I told the judge I'm in danger and that's why I had that fo'-five with one in the chamber Fuck the world!

Chorus: {They tryin to say that I don't care} I woke up screamin, "Fuck the world!" {They tryin to say that I don't care} Just woke up and screamed, "Fuck the world!" {They tryin to say that I don't care} Uhh, I woke up and screamed, "Fuck the world!" {They're tryin to say that I don't care} Just got up and screamed, "Fuck the world!"

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The Problem with …

Below/Lower than …

AdultMiddleclass

White

The Problem with …

EVEN IF THEY STAY IN THAT SUBCULTURE

AS ADULTS – THEY WILL NEVER REALLY

CHANGE THE CULTURE OF SOCIETY

SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL BECOME

PART OF THE SYSTEM

Countercultures

• Were originally used to describe middleclass young adults who incorporated a style to resist societal values

• Unlike subcultures, youth in countercultures might continue to participate in their counterculture later in life and might effectively change society

Jammers

Mashers

Krumpers

Metal-heads

Young people do express themselves – It’s our job to

listen

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