Transcript: FBI secret recordings of Kareem Ahmed 1

8/11/2019 Transcript: FBI secret recordings of Kareem Ahmed 1

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Okay, thank you.

Oh

I thought you liked, uh, red wine?

Yeah,

not

right

now

I

Oh

okay.

... during the

day

*** today.

(LAUGHS) What

are you a

baby

you

can t.

So what, what changed his mind like *** like ***?

Yeah, he s telling

me

the

minimum

1200.

Like tells me like 400 what s up ***?

Try

to

probably

make more money off of

you.

Well, well

...

But

he

knows

...

yeah I

know ....

(LAUGHS)

Come

on .

He

can t do that.

He knows you ***. Well you

know what

he s got *** this is

what

I don t I

understand about. What. ..

why

does

he

do that? I

mean why

does

he

like

why doesn t

he

gives, gives a straight

number man?

I

don t

know.

Cuz

it s not a fuckin' big secret.

I

mean what

can

he

...

for

how

many

years

...

three years?

Yeah, he keeps taking checks from

me ...

marketing checks.

Uh, still?

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Yeah, you know, Ferragamo

What

is this? ***

December

8

th

at

***

do

you

need any new

shoes?

Look

at . . .look at.

Those

are

your

cousins. *** he says

they re paying him

like

what

10

15,000 a month.

Yeah,

he s

been

getting it.

But

you

know

the thing is the

guy doesn t

do

anything

that s

the problem.

He

just says

KAREEM I

It s well worth

it

I ll

introduce you to

JERRY BROWN.

I ll

introduce you to this,

that

..

whatever.

Is it worth it? ***talk to him?

JERRY BROWN?

Yeah.

Urn, I don t need

PAUL

to do

...

talk to

JERRY BROWN.

I ve got

my own

lobbying that I did.

Uh-huh.

And remember

I

have

the state senator's daughter

who

works

with him

man.

You know

.

*** is the

lady

right? I t's a lady?

*** yeah. Yeah, state

senator s

daughter.

And we re

gonna ...

I m

gonna

*** and

they re

having, uh, this

Sunday ..

Uh-huh.

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... in *** like the, the democratic *** you know the thing.

*** Sacramento?

Yeah, yeah, in Sacramento so it s, urn, my office but

I m

not gonna go.

But

NORMA

and them they re gonna stay at

her

house, the senator s

house, and then next day they re gonna be with JERRY

BROWN

taking

pictures and ... They called us ...BRUCE, to ... they wanted him to be the

AB for workers comp and we said no I don t want you to be the AB*. So

he called fuckin MIKE ***DROBOT ..

Are you gonna order lunch, sir?

Yeah, can I have .. 1 want a salad.

Give him the organic spinach salad . . . you want that?

Yeah. Yeah.

They have really good . . . organic spinach ... the one that I always have.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

What are you gonna have?

Large or small?

No

I m

gonna have dessert man. Ijust had big lunch look at this I spilled

shit on ..

1

took the office girls to the, the thing .

Yeah.

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Because I forgot that I had a meeting ...

A large

or

small salad?

Vb, give me a large one.

Okay. I ll put that in then I ll get ***.

And then you know what I gonna take, uh, uh, ... You shouldn t have

...

Okay, everything is so good man. Urn, just give me, urn,

...

hmm ....ay ay

ay ay

..

and that will be maybe, you know, coming artichoke ..

***

...but they re fried. I just. .. Oh and they have ...

SORAT: Actually it s not fried ... it s fried?

(SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY)

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No, no, no.

They re ***.

The *** artichoke they re fried, the one they have. .. but

it s

really good

but no, uh, just give me some ice cream and berries, you know ...

Okay ..

***

...vanilla, chocolate?

Yeah, he

doesn t ..

he

doesn t

eat like, uh, uh, uh, fried really ***ice

cream ...

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(LAUGHTER)

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Oh yeah . .. okay forget it.

.. .ice cream. No you asking.

No, no, no ...no, you know what. ...

just have berry.

I won t even .. I won t even ...

Just give me just fruit. .. yeah, just give me fruit.

Uh, give him some ice cream. That will make him chubby.

No, you

... man. Urn, I got to lose weight man. Hmm, you know that, that

Vietnamese food pho, that s where I took them. They have a pho place

like pho.

Yeah, but the problem is there is some much salt in it.

Sodium, yeah, yeah, I know.

That s, that s ... that s really good but i t s like ...

It s like 3,000 gram

of

sodium ...

Yeah.

...

in the bowl, right.

Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They cannot do that.

So it kinda fuckin spilled over me but the girls made me do it so I just

drank that and

I m

stuffed.

uh,

...

Okay, so what

..

alright, so ...

Yeah, you know ..

Forget about them.

No listen are you gonna do it with him?

No, that s what I wanna ask you.

Oh.

What should I do? I don t know everybody ..

H-,

...

.. . keeps telling me is there s money in it.

How many

..

Is there?

...how many do you have?

I have

70 doctors man that I can put on this thing

but

I don t know.

How much what the code is.

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No how much he told you, you gonna

pay

him?

No, he said he just gonna billing *** for me.

Like *** pay 50, 50 right?

No, just

15

percent that s it.

So he doesn t. .. he doesn t make anything?

No,

15

percent...

***

...ofmy

doctors.

So he s ...

And I got to pay the lab. I m gonna buy the receivable from them.

Okay *** ...

But is that legal? Can we do that?

I don t know.

I know we can buy from pharmacies but can we buy from labs? I

don t

know I haven t looked into it yet.

*** it could be, yeah.

Right, we could buy it just, you know.

So *** probably for lab **you know. .

Well that s

I I

don t

even know how bill man.

I

don t

know anything.

So how much he charge you

... 15

percent?

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Yeah, he wants 5 percent.

***

But he said

...he ...

And this company .. his company?

He s company, yeah.

Oh good.

He says yeah ... He says plus he says

he ll

go to the lock box like

if

I set

up a lock box .. .

Uh, ...

...at bank or something.

Like what he ***? (LAUGH)

Well you know *** ... so he go .. .

I m

like okay.

Hmm. That s ***.

And then he said MIKE JUNIOR .. he tells the news that MIKE JUNIOR

is getting into compounds.

***

Yeah. He says he wants to do it now big time.

Yeah.

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*** I know he s, uh, *** ...JERRY BROWN is up there ...

Yeah, yeah.

... *** everything.

Not only that I told, urn, BRUCE to call, uh, SENIOR. He did and told

him to put his attorney s up there because they had asked me, so I said no

I

don t

want BRUCE to leave I need him in the office. I said you put. .. so

he s gonna put MIKE, uh, *** what s his name?

MIKE, uh, ...

Urn, . ..

***

Yeah.

***

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They re gonna put him up there.

To, to what. . . do, do what?

*** in the. .. in Sacramento the AB * Worker s Comp** or some shit I

don t know.

SORAT: Was gonna

be

.. you wanna work for the *** . ..


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Yeah, ***.

***?

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Yeah. They offered BRUCE ...because this ELIZABETH *** who works

with ..

I

just

took to lunch.

Yeah.

She s mad, and this senator

she s

there for 30 years. They respect her, they

call her the grandma.

MIKE, uh, MIKE *** you said?

Uh, no *** GLORIA MCLEOD.

OhMCLEOD

.

Yeah, MCLEOD.

Yeah, yeah I know.

She is well respected man. Very short like a short lady, you know,

but

she s pretty and she s been in the profession as committee chairper-,

chairmen... I

mean

chairperson.

S

W-,

Very connected.

Why he let MIKE DROBOT put his guy there ***?

That s what I m asking, give me a name

I ll

put that guy up cuz if. . 1 told

PAUL RANDALL

yesterday, he s a piece

of

crap, you tell MIKE ifhe

messes with

my

compound I will fuckin

...

Why.


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You know

what he says, he says no

MIKE

Junior

on

the contrary .. he says

now that you offered this to us so, uh, he calls taking, uh, SENIOR there

to go see

JERRY

and

they re

gonna vote

MIKE

that

guy

in.

I m

the one

who gave it to him because I didn t

know

any better.

You

know the

guy

who

we

should

put

up?

That s, that s

what s his name... your biggest client they took it

away

from

you.

Who?

What s

his name, uh, the guy, uh, RANDY.

No, I

don t

want RANDY.

Oh

shit screw

him

I

don t

need him. I

dealt. . .let me tell you this

guy

is a crook. Him ...

1

.. uh,

LIZA

. .

Because he took ...because he, uh, working with DROBOT, no .

Listen,

I m

the one who let

him

go ...

RANDY

, I don t want his paper.

Why is it his junk, right?

that s why, otherwise

DROBOT

or

NOLAN

they cannot come and

get. . .I don t want anyone to take my account . Because you know I

don t

cheat

man

we,

we

...black and white contract, you know, I do it

honestly but I don t want his paper. And the guy owes me a lot of

money

. .

RANDY

..

five six hundred thousand dollars.

Why?

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Because ROBERT ...bullshit paper he gave me. Either I wanna fuckin

PR2 reports

or

whatever. ..

ifhe

doesn t mention it in the report I want

my

money back I don t wanna go buy his paper.

I m

not obligated to buy shit.

Unless I get documentation so I can collect my

money,

I m

gonna return it

like he has to document the compound *** .. .


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How could...how could you let him go away ..

Because

...

***

... *** man I know.

***

He s getting 30,40,000 between ***whatever . But it s okay I will sue his

ass.

Because when he goes away MIKE gonna take over?

He s

gonna *** all

your doctors?

*** PAUL told me this yesterday. He said MIKE

JUNIOR s

gonna go

after all your doctors. (LAUGHS) Like you son of a bitch

I m

putting your

***

I

I put in it Sacramento.

I m

the one did all the work. You are

gonna

...

okay, I

say

you know what. ..

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... you tell JUNIOR good luck. Tell him go ahead.

He s

got two million

dollars a month to spend go for

it

That's how much it cost to stay in

business... wo million dollars a month *** over it.

Why, why you do that? Don t work for. .. don't, don t give the doctor three

months that's six million dollars.

AHMED: I know.


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***

But like *** Apple and Apple keeps going up every day.

I know but ***.

I had ten thousand call options*** I made 180 million in Apple in app.

No way.

Yeah I paid 92 million in taxes, how do you like that so. But Apple just

keeps going up .. . all the time, you know.

Apple, uh, .. .

You should buy Apple too, man. Any pull back .. . in 2015 it could be

1,000 stock because the sales and ***the apps.. .


SORAT: Apple, Apple ...

AHMED: ... billions of apps, yeah.

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Everybody.

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Look what they've done.

AHMED:

Yeah.

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Everybody's gone.

AHMED: See so that's ... Netflix is gonna be a giant.

SORAT: So MIKE DROBOT JUNIOR coming back to compound?

AHMED:

Big ...big time going after my doctor. PAUL told me, he said

KAREEM you've ...

SORAT: Is he good.

AHMED: . always been good to me I m gonna tell you the truth.

SORAT: It's gonna go... it s gonna work with him?

AHMED:

Of

course you know how he ... he doesn't care work.

SORAT:

AHMED: Yeah, he is .. . still is. He got ...what s his name is gone, urn, urn, the

guy what' s his name, ART GARRET.

SORAT:

Your cousin.

AHMED: Yeah.

(LAUGHTER)

SORAT: I

don t...

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Yeah, right now, yeah.


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*** but PAUL had told

me

no ...

Yeah.

... that s, that s, that s .. . that s the reason, not because ofme.

Uh-huh.

A lot of people tell him I ll get ***.

Probably, that s what everybody tells me too that PAUL did it, okay.

But . .

PAUL s

still doing ...he s giving me a guy in Tustin Hospital, MIKE

BARRI.

Uh-huh.

PAUL works with him.

MIKE ... who s MIKE BARRI?

I don t know ... in Tustin Hospital.

MIKE BARRI s, uh, doctor. .. a chiropractor.

Oh, okay then I

don t

know, and he was thinking

...

Oh, no, no you wanna ***?

Yeah, ***.

The owners.

Oh

they got new owners there?

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Who are the owner. .

1 don t

know.

*** fire JIM, JIM, uh, YOUNG.

JIM YOUNG yeah, because JIM YOUNG was a fuckin crook.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah, they fired him.

They fired his ass?

The whole crews .. . all, all of them.

So listen BATMAN, we need to go buy a hospital man, that s where the

money is .

*** not the right deal right now.

Huh?

*** so are they gonna .. . are they gonna pass the law for the implant or no?

Yeah, that s gonna through.

That s gonna go?

Yeah, because I am not in it so I m not *opposing it**.

I know because, because like ...

You know on December 3

rd

are .. .is coming, yeah.

You sure?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That s why

I m

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... I am crazy letting this run.

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...

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Yeah.

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... 80 percent they took care of it. .. it won t pass .

AHMED:

It ll pass.

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don t

know.

AHMED: They need the California Medical Association, they need they need

to go against i t for not. .. not to pass.

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But those lobbyists

if

you call them, you know they re

...

the lobby

..

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Yeah.

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... in Sacramento ...

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.

UNKNOWN:

...a large spinach salad.

AHMED:

Yes right here.

UNKNOWN:

The side

of

berries is ...

AHMED: Yeah, I ll take that.

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Okay. Do you want fresh pepper on that, sir?

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Uh, no *** ... thank you.

Okay. I ll be right back give you a little more water.

Okay, please. Oh that s your. So you know BATMAN the thing is how do

we,um, ...

Some .. somebody got to *** somebody has to get your. ..

Can you bring me some honey?

Sure.

Thanks.

All this ... all this you have to do ...

What?

1

know you did it cuz you re not dumb ... you re not dumb, dumb, dumb,

dumb.

And that s why 1***.

*** somebody told me .. some

way

you have to get your doctor not to

walk away from you that easy. You have to *** always ...you

always ... you have to have something in your hand.

Oh yeah on them.

Yeah

if

they go

...

I could do that.

I don t know you should done it by now.


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Yeah, I have that. .. 1 have that.

But here s

the thing.

***

There s

so

many

doctors around ...who cares let him have that. The ones

that...1 have

*my

core** ...

Uh-huh.

... there's no way there gonna trust JUNIOR. There s no fuckin' way I

don t

care

how

much he offers them. And if offers them too much

that s

inducement man he can get in trouble for that. Uh-huh.

*** what offer them? I don t think so.

Well yeah because it s too much and he ...and he can t. ..

They

got

put

it because

of

the *** hospital bag, right?

Uh-huh.

They got put in the package?

Yeah. Yeah. That s what it is and that package is not. ..

just

not gonna cut

it.

So the package he has like for CATANZARITE and those guys ...

Uh-huh.

... they pay them like 34,000 a month ...

Yeah.

...everything in-, ...everything' s included.

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Problem with and JEFF is ..

1

tell him. I said JEFF listen

...

You worked with him?

No. I wanted to

but

once I find out

JUNIOR s

working with him and

JUNIOR told

me

at PAUL RANDALL s house, you know the one in

Laguna on that Christmas party.

Uh-huh.

He told me KAREEM, I don t have much accounts. I used to have

CATANZARITE can

Ijust

keep that account.. .he asked me that. He

said KAREEM can you just stay away from this account? I go okay, he

said man I get a lot of money, it s like clockwork we work,

we

work it go

home no problem. So I was in the middle of signing the deaL . .they have

an office in Riverside ...

Uh-huh.

...okay. So JEFF wanted me to start with that and do it. So ...cuz I had

in my unit

I

you know what I honored it. I stayed away I said no man I

can t afford it, I can t do it, da da da. He was gonna give me like 2,000

jars a month to I said no I don t I want it.

Is that 2,000 jars?

Well between Riverside and that, yeah.

because then that...


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This is last year.

Is bigger than JOHN LARSEN?

No, JOHN LARSEN still has a lot.

Like *** he does about 1,500 a month, right?

Yeah .. . no, him, AHMED ... they re still the bigger . . ones.

How could you survive with JOHN, JOHN, uh,.. . what s his name?

Who?

JOHN the guy just sold LARSON because 80 percent

of

his cases are just

bullshit.

Applicant*** I don t work with him. I give it up . Only . .well, only ***,

urn

...

Come on.

No, no, I gave it up man, the only, uh, guy who maybe goes there is like a

ANGUIZOLA ***.

Because all of this is a ***.

*** applicant I know, I know ..

I

know junk. Mm, but since then

ANGUIZOLA has some, you know, good paper elsewhere so you know

good with the bad I mean where you gonna go ***.

Maybe.Oh.

That s

the only problem.

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What s his name *** uh, *** the guy from, uh, insurance company.

Uh, SAM?

Yeah, ***.

Or for his HEALTH CARE thing?

Yeah, what s his name?

Urn, it s on the email. He sends out an email the, urn, ...

You hire him as his lawyer was it the guy ***?

Yeah. Yeah.

What s his name?

know it. . . forget his name. know who you re talking about it was in his

email he sent, uh, hold on.

*** other ones.

No, no, know who you re talking about man.

HERB something.

Yeah, ***. Not *** .. . um, WEINBERG ... (PAUSE @0:32:08 to 0:32:18)

Oh wow can sue the pants out

ofTRlNET

*** there fuckin good to

commit a fraud.

Who?

They never gave us EP Alliance agree, that stewardess without informing

us. KAREEM do you want sue the pants off them. (LAUGHS)

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...60 percent.

Okay.

Or

if

you want or

1

percent.

10 percent, 20 percent, whatever, I have a lot of volume.

And, and buy from me 30 percent.

Okay.

I m not gonna give you everything because you

mix

it, you know?

That s for little bit, yeah mix it yeah, that s good.

Okay. I want price tell

me

the exactly

I ll show you the contract, I ll show you the contract that MICHAEL gave

me,

I ll

show it to you.

Oh you ll show it to me?

He gave me that, he send me in an email, I ll show it to you.

okay.

Yeah, yeah, here, maybe I think he sent it to

me

on my email, I might still

have it.

How, how, how much you said, how much he give you 30, 30 grammers

for?

I ll get the exact price, he s gonna come on Wednesday, that s

we re

gonna discuss man, the pricing, he s coming so okay here, let

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you,

he

sent me this, I hope I

have

his email here *** the fuck am I

supposed to read all this, there s like 350 emails man.

Okay

MIKE, urn

...

How

much

you pay what s her names daughter, more than the

other

guys?

***

they

charged

me

a lot

of

fucking money.

No,

no

I m talking about the other *** congresswoman,

it s same

the price

as everybody or ***?

Who?

Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, the

way

you

have

to do it,

I ll

tell you. See

look,

there s

a law, you cannot give

more

than 3,900 dollars, okay?

Uh-huh.

Per like election.

Yeah.

But then if you have like 10 companies ...

Yeah.

...each

company

can give 3,900.

Is it a new

law

*** do it before?

No that s

a law, I mean,

that s

a law.

They ll

tell you,

they re,

okay, you

cannot

give directly to *** they have like a, like a finance department, like

you

know

*** people collect.

Uh-huh.

So

you call

them

and

they ll

send you an email. So you

make em

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that you send them, have them send you an email so got a record.

they 're saying that and they come to my office, they come, they

see all these 100 employees, whatever, and I tell em look, I m creating

jobs, you better make sure this SB, you know, uh, AB2779 doesn t go

anywhere. So she calls, we beat the shit out of, you see what I did to the

bill? I did it man. And then BRUCE is published on WORK. COMPo

CENTRAL.

Who, who, who, no who

I m

the one who shut it down.

How you go there

I

didn t

go there, I hired like a lobbyist.

Where, where, where, in, uh, where?

In Sacramento.

Which, which bill?

The AB2779 man, it was gonna shut down compounds. Motherfucker, are

you sleeping?

I think

Okay

now I have to change your name SORA

T.

No, it snot, it s not shutdown, what are you talking about?

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*** they, I shut it down for this year in the sleeping pile, go, AB2779,

look it up, go to the website, look it up, look what I did to it, we, what we

did to it, we beat shit out

of

it. Labor was behind it and we, and the labor

committee in the first hour. ..

Uh-huh.

.. .labor beat the crap out of SOLORIO s *** his attorney, his guy,

SOLORIO is the Anaheim, right here, assembly member, he is the one

who introduced it, JOSE SOLORIO, okay?

He s

forty some years old.

*** maybe he gets money from insurance companies.

He, he does, *** insurance companies, they wanted to say you have to get

a pre-op on compound.

I m

like fuck that. I told them, I said listen, you

cannot impede access to every injured worker in the state of California.

You can put a fee schedule, we ll work with you. I got C***, I got

California Medical Association, I got all ofthem *** I m like, F-U. And

they re like okay (LAUGHS).

So should I go *** only, should I do applicant too?

The *** you have to wait fucking years man *** you get money now.

*** are doing it right now.

I m doing it because I already have a cycle now, I m a behemoth man, I

do 8,

1

million a month, they can t fuck with me, I do too much.

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Why you told me

I buy a lot of, I told you I buy, I you don t listen. You think I m

bullshitting

but

I am not.

Can I have some money?

No

I m broke.

let me see your shoes.

No

Walmart.

Come on. Yeah Walmart, this is, uh, Gucci fucker.

No, yeah Ferragamo, Gucci, I got nice Versace.

How much you

pay

that?

You should see the Versace shoes Ijust got the other day, oh ...

What, uh, uh, dollar, dollar fifty?

The

black ones, the black ones. Yeah a dollar fifty. Hey BATMAN,

Versace

you should see the more I give to the

...

Versace has good shoes, I

wonder if

they

know

me, go

MARTHA

and the, the, the guy,

what s

his

name, urn,

LONNY and then yeah, they all know me in South Coast for 19

years, CAROLINE knows me for 19 years knows me for 20 years,

you remember?

I remember, I, I remember, I I remember 10, 15, we went to, uh,

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Cartier,

buy

Cartier stuff, you

didn t buy me

anything fucker you

never, you never get me anything.

Shit, yeah remember, no I got you, remember

we

helped on the

BMW,

the

red BMW.

Well you didn t, you didn t help on the ...

You 3,000 dollars man, you said give me 3,000 gave you on, on

Bristol and Sunflower, remember there was a

bank

there.

you re supposed, you re supposed to give me like 15,000 dollars not

3,000 dollars

Okay but

had to keep the 12. (LAUGHS)

BATMAN,

has it occurred to

you that love you? Believe it or not, out

of

all, everybody in state

of

California ...

listen gave you, listen, listen, listen 30,000 dollars, how

much food

Yeah bought a lot

of

food.

How

much spent bill?

Probably 30 dollars.

See, 99.1 percent, you owe me man.

I know, I know, I, I know I do. I

just

always mess with you, you know?

Listen, you re the only guy I laugh so much and mess with and people

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can t

understand that.

I m not driver anymore, okay?

Oh no, I used to just do that to mess with you, just for fun.

Okay

listen,

think about, other people would say oh SIROUS is this, SIROUS is that,

he

.

I used to fun, like oh yeah, he s like my driver, go ask him, just to,

like for fun so you would get a kick out of it, I mean, come ...

I I love, I loved it.

I know

driver shoes my shoes

I know, I know, it s supposed to

be

ajoke and you took it fucking

seriously man. And you know me, I always joke with you BATMAN

come on.

sometimes some guys come tell me

No, tell them go fuck themselves.

my

clients kept telling me, how long drove, uh, uh, KAREEM

like two years, three years.

Oh

my god, no man.

yes I did.

They re stupid. You put me in front of them, I will tell them I learned

everything I know from you. In

...

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Okay thanks.

No I will in front

of

them

know.

Listen I keep I keep like almost 70 percent of those right away.

Yeah

because you

know

how they are

BATMAN, they re

not fucking

sincere man they re not sincere.

I

don t

do I

don t

anymore.

Huh?

I

have

my coming up ...

Yeah.

I have to diet I do it with uh with IV diet. ..

Okay right.

...we

do

we

do uh occupational...

Right right right.

... and

we

do

maybe

I do like 10

5

percent uh uh what do you call it

uh uh liens.

Right right.

But

but

I got I got I get recommendation from a insurance

company

..

Yeah.

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... ust show me doctors, who should I use to work with?

Yeah.

You know why?

*** why?

Because when they, they *** the doctor to me, then I go back to them, so I

got your doctor here, can you send me clients? ***

That s right, that, that s right, that s right, yeah see. Baby, only you can

pull that out ***

I got, I got, I got Foster Farms, I got GALLO Winery, I got all those guys.

But those are huge, those are huge.

That s

what you want because that s a

defense,

it s

authorized work, you won t have to fucking deal with

*asshole applicants.

I know, but, but *** but *** jealous, you do 1 million dollars a month, I

do nothing.

No but

you already have it, you already got it man, you fucking enough

people collecting for you.

No I have like nothing ***

The guy in Chino Hills has how many millions of yours? He s always in

courts fighting for you.

No *** how much, I got almost, uh, 1.3, I *** all of it, he never gave me,

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that

was

a fight they took all my my uh uh accounts

and

billed

them

himself.

What the fuck

how

could he do that?

Don t

tell

him

that.

No I m

not gonna tell

him

that then I

won t

deal

with

him.

But

please because

but he s

gonna pay me.

Okay good

make

sure

he

does BATMAN I m not dealing with him.

no he s gonna pay me because because

...

Because the only reason

I m

letting

him come

to the office

now

is because

he

told

me

all these good things about you

and

that

everything s ..

I

I put

I

I

put

almost I sold like a

property in

La

Habra I sold I

put

almost 3.7 million

of

cash

money

in

my

pocket.

Holy

shit.

I m

not even

half

of it

I

swear. ..

Wow.

how much I

bill

I m not

you.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

I ll

bill like 95 dollars 100 100 100

Yeah yeah little yeah.

But

the thing

doesn t matter what

I

bill

they

only

pay me the same shit man

that s

the problem that s

why

we fight

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them all the time.

No.

40 bucks, 120 bucks, 119 bucks, some of them will give me like

whatever I bill, like percent . No matter what I bill they, they pay,

100 percent. So that s why I have to bill like usual and customary like a

little higher, what the fee schedule is, right? But we settle for 10 cents on

the dollar, 20 cents on the dollar all the fucking time. I need to get

Wall Street IPO.

That, that s what, uh, IPO, IPO, what are you talking about?

I need one year and three more, three years

of

financials man.

by

December this year I ll have two years.

Uh-huh.

Then okay, first year I did 50 million, one year, right?

Yeah.

This year I m gonna do 120 million. 2011, I ll do 200 million. Then in

three years I ve done

half

a billion, they re gonna give me like a 30 to 70

dollar stock on Wall Street.

But it

isn t

worth

half

a billion.

Well it will be, 200 million, 120 million

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No

I m

talk what the, your

AR

is not that much.

No but they don t, Wall Street doesn t care, that s where you miss the

point, nobody understands it, they look for values, they don t give a shit

even

if

you don t make a penny BATMAN, that s the point, nobody gets

this, they re stupid.

I m

telling you they care about revenue, they

don t

care what you make, what comes in, ten cents, they don t give a shit.

If

you have revenue, that s what they want, sexy, 50 million, 100 million,

200 million a year, oh fuck, they want shares

ofthat

thing like there s no

tomorrow. They don t care

if*** if

shit doesn t come in.

If

there s

revenue, that s what they

go

by.

*** why don t, why *** teach me before?

I told you this, how many times

I ve

told you this? I want to

go

public, I

want to build a hospital. You, BATMAN, you never listen because you re

always making these fucking gazillions so you don t give a shit, you re

girls whatever.

No because, *** because, because the problem was

I

I thought maybe ***

it s

not possible.

t is, okay, well Amazon, you know how many fucking years they didn t

make a dime? Look where the god damn stock is. Look at fucking Netflix,

*** Priceline, 300, man,

I

that s what I do, stocks. I take the money from

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there, I

put .. how

can you do 100 million a year business with no debt, no

credit cards, no nobody,

just me

and Tayyaba? So I take

money

from

my

Apples whatever the options I make, I

put

it right here and

buy

a shit

load of receivable, that s what I do. So ...

Can you give me some money?

Heck yeah.

Ten bucks, no,

or

Mexican peso.

I

can t.

..

Yeah, you have enough man, you ...

Come

on

Where s

your 90 million in receivables, where s your 90 million

receivable?

Wait, wait, wait no 100, uh, 150 million.

See, I know you.

No, no, no 195 million.

Yeah I

know

you do because your

name

was in the

...

I m more than you.

I

know

you have more than me,

you re

king,

I m

just

a little prince.

Yeah, I have,

I m the king. Yeah you re nothing.

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I ll

let you know

how

it s

gonna

be

done.

Okay.

done.

You pay?

Huh?

You pay?

I already paid done come on.

So 29 700

Yeah you can you can keep on shrinking man.

Yeah.

I love you

.

Thank you. BATMAN

Oh.

I sorry about that.

Oh no it s fine.

It s all his fault.

I m sorry

Yeah yeah blame it on me. BATMAN ...

So when you gonna come?

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Uh, let s do it, uh, couple weeks?

weekend.

On the weekend Saturday, Sunday, yeah?

I wanna come

We could do it

on

a Sunday

if

you want,

or

Saturday, whatever works for

you, you know? Cause I don t want to be

Oh no,

just

come, just come out there.

Yeah it ll be good man, we could sit down, you know, and just cup of

tea and just, you know, chill and

just

have a good talk, you know? Alright

bro, I love you,

just

remember what I told you at the end.

Alright.

We re loved,

we re

the two people loved so just, you know, watch it,

okay?

I like you re, uh, 7,000 dollars, uh, what is it?

swap meet man, swap meet.

Bye, nice meeting you.

The whole thing, my whole thing worth about 5 dollars.

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