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Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Today’s Outline - October 23, 2013
• Problem 4.12
• Hydrogen atom spectrum
• Angular momentum
• Algebraic determination of eigenvalues
• Angular momentum eigenfunctions
Please fill out the mid-term survey!
Reading Assignment: Chapter 4.4
Homework Assignment #08:Chapter 4: 10,13,14,15,16,38due Wednesday, October 30, 2013
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 1 / 16
Problem 4.12
(a) Using equation 4.88, work out the first four Laguerrepolynomials
(b) Using equations 4.86, 4.87, and 4.88 find v(ρ) forthe case n = 5, l = 2.
(c) Find v(ρ) again for the case n = 5, l = 2, but withthe recursion relation.
v(ρ) = L2l+1n−l−1(2ρ) (4.86)
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x) (4.87)
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)(4.88)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 2 / 16
Problem 4.12
(a) Using equation 4.88, work out the first four Laguerrepolynomials
(b) Using equations 4.86, 4.87, and 4.88 find v(ρ) forthe case n = 5, l = 2.
(c) Find v(ρ) again for the case n = 5, l = 2, but withthe recursion relation.
v(ρ) = L2l+1n−l−1(2ρ) (4.86)
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x) (4.87)
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)(4.88)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 2 / 16
Problem 4.12
(a) Using equation 4.88, work out the first four Laguerrepolynomials
(b) Using equations 4.86, 4.87, and 4.88 find v(ρ) forthe case n = 5, l = 2.
(c) Find v(ρ) again for the case n = 5, l = 2, but withthe recursion relation.
v(ρ) = L2l+1n−l−1(2ρ) (4.86)
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x) (4.87)
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)(4.88)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 2 / 16
Problem 4.12
(a) Using equation 4.88, work out the first four Laguerrepolynomials
(b) Using equations 4.86, 4.87, and 4.88 find v(ρ) forthe case n = 5, l = 2.
(c) Find v(ρ) again for the case n = 5, l = 2, but withthe recursion relation.
v(ρ) = L2l+1n−l−1(2ρ) (4.86)
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x) (4.87)
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)(4.88)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 2 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials
, nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)
L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)
= ex(
d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials
, nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1
L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)
= ex(
d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials
, nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1
L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)
= ex(
d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials
, nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)
= ex(
d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials , nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)
= ex(
d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials , nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)
= ex(
d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials , nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)= ex
(d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials , nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)= ex
(d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials , nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)= ex
(d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(a) We previously generated the first three Laguerre polynomials , nowdetermine the fourth one.
Lq(x) = ex(
d
dx
)q (e−xxq
)L0 = 1 L1 = −x + 1 L2 = x2 − 4x + 2
L3 = ex(
d
dx
)3 (x3e−x
)= ex
(d
dx
)2
(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x)
= ex(
d
dx
)(x3e−x − 3x2e−x − 3x2e−x + 6xe−x)
= ex(−x3e−x + 3x2e−x + 6x2e−x − 12xe−x − 6xe−x + 6e−x)
L3 = −x3 + 9x2 − 18x + 6
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 3 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).
This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2)
= 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2)
= 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2)
= 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2)
= 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2)
= 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2)
= 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(b) With n = 5 and l = 2, wehave p = 2l + 1 = 5, q − p =n − l − 1 = 2, and q = 7.Thus we want v(ρ) = L52(2ρ).This means we need the La-guerre polynomial L7
Lpq−p(x) ≡ (−1)p(
d
dx
)p
Lq(x)
L7(x) = 5040− 35280x + 52920x2
− 29400x3 + 7350x4 − 882x5
+ 49x6 − x7
L52(x) = (−1)5(
d
dx
)5
(−882x5 + 49x6 − x7)
= 2520(42− 14x + x2)
v(ρ) = 2525(42− 14(2ρ) + (2ρ)2) = 5040(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 4 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0
= −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0
= −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0
= −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0
= −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0
= −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0
= −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
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Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2
= 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2 = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2 = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2 = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Problem 4.12 (cont.)
(c) Recall that we have n = 5and l = 2. v(ρ) is simply a poly-nomial sum
with coefficient recursion rela-tion
starting with c0 which can bedetermined by normalization, weget
putting it all together
v(ρ) = c0 −2
3c0ρ+
2
21c0ρ
2
=c021
(21− 14ρ+ 2ρ2)
v(ρ) =∞∑j=0
cjρj
cj+1 =2(j + l + 1− n)
(j + 1)(j + 2l + 2)cj
c1 =2(2 + 1− 5)
(1)(4 + 2)c0 = −2
3c0
c2 =2(1 + 2 + 1− 5)
(2)(1 + 4 + 2)c1
= −1
7c1 =
2
21c0
c3 =2(2 + 2 + 1− 5)
(3)(2 + 4 + 2)c2 = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 5 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2
=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef
= hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)
nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2
=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef
= hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)
nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef
= hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)
nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef
= hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)
nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef
= hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef
= hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)
nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef = hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)
nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Hydrogen spectrum
Energy of a hydrogen state
En =− m
2~2n2
(e2
4πε0
)2=−13.6 eV
n2
transitions between states aregiven by
Eγ = Ei − Ef = hν
= −13.6 eV
(1
n2i− 1
n2f
)nf Series
1 Lyman2 Balmer3 Paschen4 Brackett5 Pfund6 Humphreys
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 6 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~p
Lx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ]
= Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx
= (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px
− y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz
− z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px
+ z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz
+ z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py
+ x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz
− x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px − y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py + x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px −����y pz x pz − z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz + z px z py +����x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px −����y pz x pz −����z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz +����z px z py +����x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ]
+ x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px −����y pz x pz −����z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz +����z px z py +����x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ] + x py [z , pz ]
= −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px −����y pz x pz −����z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz +����z px z py +����x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ] + x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py
= i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Angular momentum
Two of the three quantum numbersof the hydrogen atom, l and ml arerelated to angular momentum
classically, the angular momentumis defined as
as quantum operators, these be-come explicitly
these three operators do not com-mute with each other
~L = ~r × ~pLx = ypz − zpy
Ly = zpx − xpz
Lz = xpy − ypx
Lx = −i~y ∂
∂z+ i~z
∂
∂y
Ly = −i~z ∂∂x
+ i~x∂
∂z
Lz = −i~x ∂
∂y+ i~y
∂
∂x
[Lx , Ly ] = Lx Ly−Ly Lx = (y pz−z py )(z px−x pz)−(z px−x pz)(y pz−z py )
= y pz z px −����y pz x pz −����z py z px + z py x pz
− z px y pz +����z px z py +����x pz y pz − x pz z py
= y px [pz , z ] + x py [z , pz ] = −i~y px + i~x py = i~Lz
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 7 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz
[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz
[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx
[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Commutators and uncertainty relations
The commutation relations for allthree operators are
and according to the generalizeduncertainty principle
σ2Aσ2B ≥
(1
2i
⟨[A, B
]⟩)2
[Lx , Ly ] = i~Lz[Ly , Lz ] = i~Lx[Lz , Lx ] = i~Ly
σLxσLy ≥~2|〈Lz〉|
σLyσLz ≥~2|〈Lx〉|
σLzσLx ≥~2|〈Ly 〉|
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 8 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ]
= ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = [L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = [L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 9 / 16
Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
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Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
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Total angular momentum
While it is impossible to find simultaneous eigenfunctions of any twocomponents of the angular momentum, it is a different story with the totalangular momentum
using the property
[AB,C ] = A[B,C ] + [A,C ]B
and noting that [Lx , Lx ] = 0
and similarly for [L2, Ly ] and[L2, Ly ]
L2 ≡ L2x + L2y + L2z
[L2, Lx ] = ����[L2x , Lx ] + [L2y , Lx ] + [L2z , Lx ]
= Ly [Ly , Lx ] + [Ly , Lx ]Ly+
Lz [Lz , Lx ] + [Lz , Lx ]Lz
= Ly (−i~Lz) + (−i~Lz)Ly+
Lz(+i~Ly ) + (+i~Ly )Lz
[L2, Lx ] = 0
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f )
= L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Eigenfunctions of angular momentum
Since [L2,~L] = 0, we can find si-multaneous eigenfunctions of bothL2 and Lz
these two equations can be solvedfor f using the ladder operators
L± ≡ Lx ± iLy
and [L2, L±] = 0
suppose we make a function L±fwhere f is an eigenfunction of L2
L±f is also an eigenfunction of L2
with the same eigenvalue λ
L2f = λf , Lz f = µf
[Lz , L±] = [Lz , Lx ]± i [Lz , Ly ]
= i~Ly ± i(−i~Lx)
= ~(±Lx + iLy )
= ±~(Lx ± Ly )
[Lz , L±] = ±~L±
L2(L±f ) = L±(L2f ) = L±(λf )
L2(L±f ) = λ(L±f )
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum.
This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Ladder operator properties
When we apply the operator Lz tothis new function
as expected, it is an eigenfunctionof Lz as well
Lz(L±f ) = (LzL± − L±Lz)f + L±Lz f
= ±~L±f + L±(µf )
Lz(L±f ) = (µ± ~)(L±f )
Thus L+ creates a new eigenfunction of Lz whose eigenvalue has beenincreased by ~, conversely, L− creates a new eigenfunction with eigenvaluereduced by ~.
There must be upper and lower limits to the eigenvalues of Lz since itmust be bounded by the total angular momentum. This leads to the twolimiting relations
L+ft = 0, L−fb = 0
where ft and fb are the top-most and bottom-most eigenfuctions
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
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Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ft
L2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft
= λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
Eigenvalues of Lz and L2
Suppose that ~l is the maximumeigenvalue of Lz
we can calculate the eigenvalue λusing the construction L±L∓
rearranging, we have a way of com-puting the eigenvalue of L2
thus we have the eigenvalue of L2 interms of the maximum eigenvalueof Lz .
Lz ft = ~lft , L2ft = λft
L±L∓ = (Lx ± iLy )(Lx ∓ iLy )
= L2x + L2y ∓ i(LxLy − LyLx)
L±L∓ = L2 − L2z ± ~Lz
L2 = L±L∓ + L2z ∓ ~Lz
L2ft = (L−L+ + L2z + ~Lz)ft
= (0 + ~2l2 + ~2l)ftL2ft = ~2l(l + 1)ft = λft
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 12 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb
= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb
= λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N
→ l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
More about eigenvalues
The same computation can beperformed with the bottom-mosteigenstate of the Lz operator, fb
but this gives us two expressions forλ from the top and bottom states
which can only hold if l = −l
Thus the eigenvalues of Lz are m~and m vary in integer steps from −lto +l , such that
which means that m are either in-tegers or half-integers
Lz fb = ~l fb, L2fb = λfb
L2fb = (L+L− + L2z − ~Lz)fb
= (0 + ~2l2 − ~2l)fb= ~2l(l − 1)fb = λfb
l(l + 1) = l(l − 1)
l = −l + N → l = N/2
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 13 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz
, so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined
and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
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Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Interpretation of Lz
The eigenvalues for the two opera-tors are, therefore
L2f ml = ~2l(l + 1)f ml
Lz fml = ~mf ml , m = −l , · · · ,+l
a common way of depicting this isto draw a sphere of radius |~L| sothat the projection of ~L onto thez-axis is Lz
Why is |Lz | < |~L|?
Recall that Lx and Ly do not com-mute with Lz , so they are undeter-mined and graphically can be any-where on the Lz = ~m circle
0
m
+1
+2
-1
-2
Lz
Ly
Lx
L
it is better to consider ~L as beingspread over all its values consistentwith Lz .
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 14 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[
φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[
φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[
φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[
φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[
φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0
, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[
φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ
, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ
− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum eigenfunctions
We know that the eigenfunctions ofangular momentum must have twovalid quantum numbers, l and m
start by rewriting the componentsof ~L in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
(~r × ~∇)
~∇ = r∂
∂r+ θ
1
r
∂
∂θ+ φ
1
r sin θ
∂
∂φ
~r = r r
~L =~i
[r(r × r)
∂
∂r+ (r × θ)
∂
∂θ+ (r × φ)
1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
r × r = 0, r × θ = φ, r × φ = −θ
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 15 / 16
Angular momentum in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
φ = −x sinφ+ y cosφ
θ = x(cos θ cosφ) + y(cos θ sinφ)− z sin θ
~L =~i
[(−x sinφ+ y cosφ)
∂
∂θ
−(x cos θ cosφ+ y cos θ sinφ− z sin θ)1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]Lx =
~i
(− sinφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ cosφ
∂
∂φ
)Ly =
~i
(+ cosφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ sinφ
∂
∂φ
)Lz =
~i
∂
∂φ
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 16 / 16
Angular momentum in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]φ = −x sinφ+ y cosφ
θ = x(cos θ cosφ) + y(cos θ sinφ)− z sin θ
~L =~i
[(−x sinφ+ y cosφ)
∂
∂θ
−(x cos θ cosφ+ y cos θ sinφ− z sin θ)1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]Lx =
~i
(− sinφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ cosφ
∂
∂φ
)Ly =
~i
(+ cosφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ sinφ
∂
∂φ
)Lz =
~i
∂
∂φ
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 16 / 16
Angular momentum in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]φ = −x sinφ+ y cosφ
θ = x(cos θ cosφ) + y(cos θ sinφ)− z sin θ
~L =~i
[(−x sinφ+ y cosφ)
∂
∂θ
−(x cos θ cosφ+ y cos θ sinφ− z sin θ)1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]
Lx =~i
(− sinφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ cosφ
∂
∂φ
)Ly =
~i
(+ cosφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ sinφ
∂
∂φ
)Lz =
~i
∂
∂φ
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 16 / 16
Angular momentum in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]φ = −x sinφ+ y cosφ
θ = x(cos θ cosφ) + y(cos θ sinφ)− z sin θ
~L =~i
[(−x sinφ+ y cosφ)
∂
∂θ
−(x cos θ cosφ+ y cos θ sinφ− z sin θ)1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]Lx =
~i
(− sinφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ cosφ
∂
∂φ
)
Ly =~i
(+ cosφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ sinφ
∂
∂φ
)Lz =
~i
∂
∂φ
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 16 / 16
Angular momentum in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]φ = −x sinφ+ y cosφ
θ = x(cos θ cosφ) + y(cos θ sinφ)− z sin θ
~L =~i
[(−x sinφ+ y cosφ)
∂
∂θ
−(x cos θ cosφ+ y cos θ sinφ− z sin θ)1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]Lx =
~i
(− sinφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ cosφ
∂
∂φ
)Ly =
~i
(+ cosφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ sinφ
∂
∂φ
)
Lz =~i
∂
∂φ
C. Segre (IIT) PHYS 405 - Fall 2013 October 23, 2013 16 / 16
Angular momentum in spherical coordinates
~L =~i
[φ∂
∂θ− θ 1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]φ = −x sinφ+ y cosφ
θ = x(cos θ cosφ) + y(cos θ sinφ)− z sin θ
~L =~i
[(−x sinφ+ y cosφ)
∂
∂θ
−(x cos θ cosφ+ y cos θ sinφ− z sin θ)1
sin θ
∂
∂φ
]Lx =
~i
(− sinφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ cosφ
∂
∂φ
)Ly =
~i
(+ cosφ
∂
∂θ− cot θ sinφ
∂
∂φ
)Lz =
~i
∂
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