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The Psychological Benefits and Technical Hurdles of Retirement Income Buckets Kol Birke, Financial Behavior Specialist David Juliano, Senior Advanced Planning Consultant FOR BROKER/DEALER USE ONLY Not for distribution to the public.

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The Psychological Benefits and Technical Hurdles of Retirement

Income Buckets

Kol Birke, Financial Behavior Specialist David Juliano, Senior Advanced

Planning Consultant FOR BROKER/DEALER USE ONLY

Not for distribution to the public.

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Agenda

• Setting up your practice • Meeting with a client • Implementing the plan • Following up with the client

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Agenda continued

• Setting up your practice • Meeting with a client • Implementing the plan • Following up with the client

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Adapting Your Practice

Accumulation Specialist Retirement

Income Specialist

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Market Loss

Inflation

Market Loss

Inflation

Outliving Assets

Health Care Costs

Adequate Survivor Income

Risks Before Retirement

Risks in Retirement

Adapting Your Practice continued

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Adapting Your Practice continued

Lifetime Income

Asset Protection

Legacy Goals

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Adapting Your Practice continued

Retirement Income

Planning

72(t)

Deferred Comp

Pension Plans

Social Security Annuities

IRAs & Qualified

Plans

Nonqualified Distributions

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Adapting Your Practice continued

• The New ROI

Return on Investment

Reliability of Income

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Agenda continued

• Setting up your practice • Meeting with a client • Implementing the plan • Following up with the client

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Client Meetings

• Meeting prep • Data gathering • Presentations

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Which Would You Choose?

A disease outbreak will kill 600 people. • Response A:

– Would save 200 people

• Response B: – 1/3 probability of saving everyone – 2/3 probability of saving no one

• Participants overwhelmingly chose A.

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Same or Different?

Asset Allocation

Cash: 10%

Income: 30%

Growth: 60%

Buckets

3 Years of Cash

Years 3–10: Income

Years 10–30: Growth

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Framing

• Exposed to equities vs. invested for potential growth

• Retirement vs. financial independence • Self-insure vs. self-fund

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Louder Than Words: Nonverbal Communication

• 7% verbal (e.g., semantics) • 38% vocal (e.g., volume, pitch, rhythm) • 55% body (e.g., facial expressions, posture)

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Client Meetings continued

• Meeting prep • Data gathering • Presentations

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A New Model, Sort of . . .

• Define the goals. • Inventory all assets, liabilities, and

risks to income. • Identify distribution, tax, and estate issues. • Identify gaps or shortfalls.

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A New Model, Sort of . . . continued

• Define the goals. • Inventory all assets, liabilities, and

risks to income. • Identify distribution, tax, and estate issues. • Identify gaps or shortfalls.

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Page Header (Times 32pt)

• First line of copy (Arial 26pt) • Second line of copy

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A New Model . . .

• Inventory fears. • Inventory strengths. • Inventory mistakes and lessons learned.

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A New Model . . . continued

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Client Meetings continued

• Meeting prep • Data gathering • Presentations

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Rest and Digest Fight and Flight

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Difference Between Positive and Negative

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Art Aron

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Agenda continued

• Setting up your practice • Meeting with a client • Implementing the plan • Following up with the client

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You Have Options

• Interest only • Systematic withdrawal plan • Annuities and income riders • Hybrid strategies • Bucket approach

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Bucket Approach

• Control of assets • Asset aggregation • Rebalancing tools and alerts

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Bucket Approach continued

Step 1: Determine tax characteristic of accounts. • Qualified vs. nonqualified • For qualified assets:

– Some IRAs may have nondeductible money – Understand withdrawal rules (age 59½, age 70½) – May have to use 72(t) strategy

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Bucket Approach continued

Step 1: Determine tax characteristic of accounts. continued

• For nonqualified assets – Ordinary income – Capital gain (short term vs. long term) – Interest (taxable and exempt) – MLPs (return of principle) – Annuities (exclusion ratio)

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Bucket Approach continued

Step 2: Determine duration of each bucket. • Life expectancy • Risk tolerance • Simplicity

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Bucket Approach continued

Step 3: Determine holdings in each bucket. • Cash and cash equivalents • CDs and bond ladders • Annuities • Mutual funds, equities, alternatives

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Bucket Approach continued

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Bucket Approach continued

Step 4: Create the paycheck. • From Bucket #1 • Transfer to a bank account • Bucket #1 replenished from Bucket #2 yield

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Bucket Approach continued

Step 5: Monitor the plan. • Need to monitor each bucket • Move assets across buckets

– This can be automated, but asset movement still needs to be monitored.

• Take gains from growth buckets

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Bucket Approach continued

Considerations • How many accounts for each client? • Trading costs incurred • Software tools • Staffing • Compensation

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Agenda continued

• Setting up your practice • Meeting with a client • Implementing the plan • Following up with the client

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Trust = Credibility + Reliability + Intimacy

Self-Interest

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Unlock the Doors

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The Psychological Benefits and Technical Hurdles of Retirement

Income Buckets

Kol Birke, Financial Behavior Specialist David Juliano, Senior Advanced

Planning Consultant

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The further away you get from it, the more likely you’ll drown.

Your goal is your life raft.

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The Goal

The Variables

The Process

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Raise Awareness

Devil’s Advocate

Help Them Plan

Small Wins

Gradual Process

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of the conversation? Are they leaning in or out . . .

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• Body

• Voice

• Face

What Can You Use?

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The Psychological Benefits and Technical Hurdles of Retirement

Income Buckets

Kol Birke, Financial Behavior Specialist David Juliano, Senior Advanced

Planning Consultant