Copyright Sales Instincts Ltd, 2008, for training purposes only
Selling On Demand CRM Patrick Pando
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Agenda Introduction, Background and Objectives Software as a
Service (SaaS) Lets Pretend its not going to happen Managing your
Sales cycle in an on-demand world Pain, qualification and
positioning Making your USP and Value propositions count Objection
Handling Real world tools Closing S + S deals Competitive
review
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Over 15,500 customers from small to enterprise Over 750,000
users in more than 80 countries Global network of software and
services partners Fast. Flexible. Affordable Full CRM suite of
marketing, sales, and service Native Office experience for rapid
adoption Multi-language with more than 40 languages Microsoft
Dynamics CRM: At a Glance Advanced SOA / Web services architecture
Multi Tenancy Source: Gartner Magic Quadrant July 2008
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At a glance on Steriods
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Objectives for Session To get you excited and to teach you how
to position and sell ON DEMAND CRM to your customers To leave you
with tools and tips to win S + S business SaaS S+S
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Are you On Demand ready? Is there a leader that owns success
for your on- demand business? Can you make product decisions based
on real- time customer feedback? Do you offer a free trial of your
solution that converts to qualified leads? Are you truly selling a
service or just a product? Do you have programs that drive
continual adoption of your products? Do you have an industrialized
sales process to discover new leads and clients? Can your CFO
forecast renewal rates and what their impact will be to revenues?
Do you have an API/mash-up strategy/Vertical strategy?
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It was the best of time it was the worst of times Time Revenue
Time Revenue On Demand Model Non- Liner Traditional Software Model
Small upfront revenue Predictable: Recurring revenue RAPID ROI
Large upfront revenue Volatile: Re-build every quarter Customer
upgrades a challenge Running a On Demand Company Requires New
Business Thinking
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SaaS Now is the right time. Pervasive broadband access for SMBs
and Consumers Economic models are in sync tight IT budgets are
driving demand for more economically efficient solutions CIOs need
to deliver strategic, mission-critical value, and will outsource
other functions to allow a more strategic internal focus Improved
security and acceptance of secure data centers by customers Greater
Depth and Breadth of On Demand offerings, including greater
alignment with customer needs (e.g. SMBs need lighter-weight
applications than Large Enterprise) Emergence of Platforms for
developing On Demand applications Windows SharePoint Services 3.0
Microsoft CRM 4.0 Why is Now the Right Time for SaaS?
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Your in the right place! Whos the preferred vendor? Overall,
Microsoft is the preferred On Demand vendor. However, in specific
markets (France and China) other providers such as local telephone
company are at parity with Microsoft. Base: Prefer On Demand
Solution (986) Q21. Provided that the features and price of each
hosted CRM solution were the same, which vendor would be your
preferred vendor? 11
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31% Growth 31% Growth (CAGR) for On-Demand CRM 61% Growth 61%
Growth in Enterprise Adoption 25% Penetration 25% Penetration of
$220 Billion Software Industry by 2011 $2 Billion 20042010 61% 25%
The Right Time
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The Right Tools
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Others are growing! 38,100 Successful Customers 1,000,000
Subscribers >$700M revenue run rate* NYSE: CRM Founded 1999, HQ
San Francisco 2400+ Employees; 40 Offices; 20 Countries
2001200820072006200520042003 2002 Fiscal Year 35,300 Customers
Growth in Customers Q4 total revenue was ~$290M, representing
growth of 34% y/y and 5% qtr/qtr Q4 subscription & support
revenue was $266M, representing growth of 35% y/y and 5% qtr/qtr Q4
consulting and other revenue increased 15% y/y and 2% qtr/qtr. For
the full fiscal year, total revenue was at ~$1.1B, representing a
44% increase y/y. This was the first year that SFDC exceeded $1B in
annual revenue.
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On-Demand CRM a foreword Completely different to traditional
methods Must be sold differently at all levels of a business Is a
different cost model and mindset Will not suit all businesses
People can be reluctant to trust online solutions Has to have its
own sales messages and approach Has a shorter sales cycle. Watch
your sales cost Once tried, very few people go back to on-
premise
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So lets pretend its not going to happen
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Lets pretend its not going to happen How many of you have more
than one computer at home/work? How many of you maintain your own
software/database/files/backups? On your multiple computers how
many of them are running exactly the same operating system,
application, database etc? How much time do you waste per month on
maintaining version control between different software? How many of
you enjoy doing it!
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If you sold software as a service Did you find it easier to
sell? You wont have to do hardware, application, database sizing?
Did your sales cycle accelerate? Did you get beaten up on price so
much? Is the customer is generally more satisfied? Was it easy to
do
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A moment from our Sponsor Credit crunch is hitting hard Budgets
are cut, priorities are changing Who can afford to spend 3x the
cost Dont have capex, but have opex Its faster, more dependable and
easier Customers want more value for money You need a dependable
long term relationship and revenue stream You need an on-demand
offering to remain competitive
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Consider these objections when you are doing business?
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Objections for On Premise vs. On Demand How big is the system
required in order to run this? What are the compatible versions for
the operating system/database/application do they all work together
Number of servers, load bearing servers, data mirrored and virtual
machines Who owns what? multiple vendors! How long is it going to
take, who is going to do it and how much is it going to cost What
happens when we get a new version Security Its not secure, anybody
can hack in We dont outsource our data/We dont do hosted software I
am tied in, what happens if I want to leave I cant integrate it
with anything else You are too expensive compared to traditional
models What happens when you go down Why isnt Microsoft doing
this
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Objections for On Premise vs. On Demand How big is the system
required in order to run this? What are the compatible versions for
the operating system/database/application do they all work together
Number of servers, load bearing servers, data mirrored and virtual
machines Who owns what? multiple vendors! How long is it going to
take, who is going to do it and how much is it going to cost What
happens when we get a new version Security Its not secure, anybody
can hack in We dont outsource our data/We dont do hosted software I
am tied in, what happens if I want to leave I cant integrate it
with anything else You are too expensive compared to traditional
models What happens when you go down Why isnt Microsoft doing this
Technical Labour intensive Opportunity Specific Emotional
Repeatable
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Your on demand sales cycle In an on-demand world On Demand
Clients DemoTrialsLeads
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Sales Cycles On-premise Have you lost a deal because of the
complexity How long does a traditional CRM sales cycle take 6
months? How much does it cost you to demonstrate a solution? How
many people have to be involved? How many times have you been
blocked by a technical decision maker? How many times have you been
deferred because IT is too busy to respond? How difficult is it to
differentiate yourselves during the sales cycle? How many times
does it result in a no-decision or cancelled project? On Demand
Solution Scooped you and got in first?
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Traditional - Sales Cycle ProspectQualify Develop relationship
SolutionProofCloseDeploy PainActive Pain Identify needs Determine
requirements Evaluating Options NegotiationImplement Typical 4 6
Month sales cycle for traditional CRM projects Typical Customer
Engagement Typical Sales Process
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S + S Sales cycle PainSearch Identify needs Find/Try Assess
/Self Asses Purchase Use Sales cycle PainActive Pain Identify needs
Determine requirements Evaluating Options NegotiationImplement
QualifyPresentPropose and Close Typical 1 - 3 Month sales cycle for
S + S CRM projects CRM Trial
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S + S Sales Cycles Qualification is much easier as there is
less to think about! Should be focused on the immediate business
issue Tends to be a tactical opportunity and short term business
problem Stick with Business Decision maker ABC ABC ABC
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Five Clicks to Close
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Sales cycle - If you are running a trial Urgency contact in the
first 24 hours Often the evaluator will be a user or sales
operations person Test data if they dont put test data in then the
chances of success diminish by 70% If only 2 logins are taken then
chances of success will diminish by 70% Must be time-lined
typically 15 30 days and only one extension of 7 days to make up
their mind = must be used as a sales trigger!!
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Trial http://www.microsoft.com/da/dk/default.aspx
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The importance of a good trial A trial is a showcase for your
company If it looks poor, you will look poor If its not
interesting, they will take it as a reflection of your interest in
their business Good trials will speedup your sales cycle A good
trial is a puppy dog close People tell their friends 50% referral
is not uncommon. If they are looking at competitive alternatives,
it will show if your trial is not up to scratch very quickly
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Servicing your business Template driven, repeatable approach
Phased approach only small chunks, not big elephants Vanilla
implementations with a twist Short punchy regular engagements, more
phases Cost proven and ROI effective at all stages
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Opportunity Process-Workflow Automation Make sure Opportunity
Estimated Close Date is at least 45 days from creation of trial
Below Applies to Partner Attach Pilot Opportunities only SSPs
responsible for all other communications
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A trial is 30 days
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Sales through a string Need to make very clear value
proposition with clear business at the begining to the engagement.
It is not a technical sell if it can work in minutes it emotional.
Your doing low touch by web and by phone.
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Customer Pains you are looking for Failed CRM implementations
or failed big system implementations Cost cutting and small budgets
Credit Crunch we cant afford to do anything! Poor visibility of
pipeline, customers, sales team effectiveness Client data in
multiple locations or systems In-accurate reporting and poor
forecasting
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Questions to ask Get $$$$$ Are you looking to have a managed
service? Are you worried about your data? What are you using to
manage your customers? How would you like to extend your use of
existing applications currently in use in your business? Where are
you having difficulties in managing your customers and prospects?
Does everyone in your organization know how to use email? Where are
you having difficulties in managing your salespeople? Whats your
timeframe and budget to put a solution in place? If I can show you
how you business can see benefit this month do you have any
objections?
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Service is a Weget them to say we. IF MY SOLUTION CAN SAVE YOU
X NEXT MONTH OR IF MY SOLUTION CAN SAVE YOU Y NEXT MONTH Does a
proven solution that is easy to use for XXX per month/year make
since to you. Why dont we give it a try?
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Selling CRM on demand pre-sales Pre-sales work GET CUTOMER TO
FOR WORK FOR YOU! Is generally just on smaller functional
requirements rather than how the software works or coding Wont
involve any database or operating system resource is purely focused
on functional and perhaps an integration piece Highly configurable
demos are a must paint a picture and tell the story. (40 minutes is
enough!) Focus on the business issues, not how good the software is
(is already assumed)
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Rules for on-line demos Sell to the business.Sell to business
people Make them interesting and tell a story Prepared with dummy
data plenty of it not just 2 contacts/examples (ideally with their
data if available) On web demos, make sure you can see it on
another screen (see what they see) Dont bore people with the
technical details or versions, no one cares
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Lead with BI
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& Dashboards
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Qualification and Positioning a S + S Opportunity
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Pricing/Positioning Dont boil the ocean!
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Increase License and Service Revenue Average billing rate +20%
Increased project profitability +15% Decrease Cost of Sales Cost
per lead 30% Better qualification, effective targeted marketing
Sales cycle 33% (on prem--from 9 months to 6 months) Reduced
pre-sales effort (e.g. pre-built demos) Create a Sustainable
Competitive Advantage Your IP + Gain additional software revenue
Differentiate yourself from your competitors Strategic value of
partnership Vertical Partner Benefits
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How do you know it is an opportunity? Mergers/Demergers
Takeovers Making money, losing money Internal re-organisations and
terminations New competitors springing up or coming out New faces
at customer sites and location Legislation and Sarbanes Oxley! IT
cuts means loss of internal support You are talking to the person
who will sign
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Positioning Power of Choice You should qualify your customer
on-demand or on- premise and offer the best choice Make a decision
and bid only one otherwise its confusing Position a longer term
engagement commitment over a period of time Talk about the things
they have to do Check your network bandwidth Executive Sponsorship
Invest in training dont skip Clean your data Talk about all the
things you are going to do The rest of it, we will manage!
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What Warning bells? Can we have a demo by Wednesday please We
are about to make a decision,but havent considered you yet We have
issued the RFI/RFP We are not sure what we want, but we think an
RFI/RFP will tell us We have seen all the other vendors and we
would now like to see you We never thought you were worthy of
seeing in the first place We are thinking of doing something, but
not sure what We dont know what we want, we are just window
shopping We are thinking of doing something next year We dont have
budget and it is not a priority We will be choosing our solution
based on price Because, if it all goes wrong, we will be throwing
away the least amount of money If you can match the discount.. We
dont understand your value or why we should buy from you
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Warning Bells 2 We like what you showed us, but We dont think
its for our business - it doesnt fit We want a price for 10,000 but
will only be buying 10 at first We have no budget and we want to
minimise our risk to this, I have been reading in a magazine or I
really like technology Closet Techie - I will never buy anything
unless it is the most technically advanced widget on the market,
today.. Our Business Consultants have told us. We are not in
control of our project and dont know what we are doing, you should
talk to them Do you have a job, I was thinking of leaving I have no
interest in this project or your success in it How fast does it run
on the obemajaflip thingy across our stringwan network. I dont
understand the business problem and therefore the real issue here
Time delays in the project - Something more important has come
along
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Overcoming Objections Security Its not secure, anybody can hack
in Four levels of security - Application, network, user, data
security We wont outsource our data/I dont do hosted software Whats
the most important application in your business today I am tied in,
what happens if I want to leave You have choices, you can do either
or! I cant integrate it with anything else Its part of the MS
family it already integrates You are too expensive compared to the
other models System is never going to be changed? Never upgraded?
What happens when you go down Tends to be ISPs Fire at customers,
Internet caf. Why isnt Microsoft doing this We have a partner model
that gives cutomers freedom of choice
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Hooked They have clicked, they have tried, they see the
value.
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Music to our ears We are going to board with a proposal We can
see the benefits of your proposal Who else uses this How do I
upload data/ I would like more users Is there training available
How quickly can you start the project or how quickly can you get
consultants on-site Your costs look high
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Positioning S +S - The loyalty factor Customer lifecycle is
typically 3 years or more Discounts arent necessary. Service is the
key. Longer commitment, 2-3 years contracts. Increased usage and
increased users, because You are making it easier for them to buy!
They can see what they are getting for their money They dont think
of it like IT spend! Tends to be operational rather than capital
budgets Small businesses cant afford anything else
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Selling On demand CRM Sell Contracts for 2 - 3 year cycle
Always Invoice at the beginning of the contract quarterly, Six
monthly or yearly Collect the cash at the start of the contract
Upgrade your customers and contracts extend, upgrade, increase
users Some limitations to think about Smaller deal sizes Same
effort to close Customers used to be more wary of on-demand than
in- house (changing perceptions)
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Avoid Offering to do both on-premise and on-demand If the
customer has a 6 12 month sales cycle if its for 0000s of potential
users its probably not on-demand. Getting into a debate between
different CRM applications you are offering a solution not a
functional shoot-out Giving discount not necessary at this time
discuss contract lifecycle not individual user cost.
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Five Clicks to Close : REMBER
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Check list Pick your vertical Define and understand your USPs
and value propositions Prepare and rehearse your S + S sales pitch
Build your implementation templates Build the best trial/demos that
you can Target your existing customers (easiest to win over) Lead
with on-demand solutions (dont double bid) Prepare your call
scripts/objection handling
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Accelerating Ahead
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Anatomy of a Enterprise Race Lost Race Sales Ops Director
attends SFDC Networking Event Signs up for 30 day trial Meet with
AE to determine business problems; find connections to CEO AE ride
along with a sales person Agree on close and success plan Demo
rehearsal Demonstration and positioning Setup reference calls
Engage implementation partner Deliver ROI, Productivity, TCO
Conduct corporate visit Negotiate and close SR follows up in 2
hours Meet with BDMs Customize Trial Success Plan SFDC Exec
Call
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Anatomy of a Enterprise Race Lost Race Sales Ops Director
attends SFDC Networking Event Signs up for 30 day trial Meet with
AE to determine business problems; find connections to CEO AE ride
along with a sales person Agree on close and success plan Demo
rehearsal Demonstration and positioning Setup reference calls
Engage implementation partner Deliver ROI, Productivity, TCO
Conduct corporate visit Negotiate and close SR follows up in 2
hours Meet with BDMs Customize Trial Success Plan SFDC Exec Call
SF.C
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Salesforce.com dashboard
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Salesforce.com Beat the Hype Salesfarce Approach : Aggressive
direct sales force Targets business users, circumvents IT Message
of low upfront cost, upsells later Rampant mud-slinging Landmines:
dashboards, reporting, stack, territory management Microsoft
Positioning: Full suite CRM, not just SFA Bridge IT and user needs
Not just simplicity, productivity Choice of deployment, hosting,
payment options Vendor viability and longevity not an acquisition
target
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68 Things Not as Easy as SFDC Claims The real deployment story
is it will take a fair amount of analysis, customization and
integration to make the application fit each customers environment.
That work must be managed (i.e. paid services) and additional
training provided to use the system as intended. Even with their
tools, customization/integration often requires programming skills
and provides only basic data migration capabilities.
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69 Who is in control, the customer or the vendor? Option of
Taking Hosted Offering In-House SFDC: No program or option to bring
SFDC implementation in-house What happens if your company gets
acquired and you need to bring it in-house What happens if new
regulatory rules/law mandate you have data in-house Dynamics: With
Microsoft, you can bring it in-house anytime Risk Mitigation SFDC:
SFDC only gives you the data if they are acquired or go out of
business But you dont get the software, source code or in-house
knowledge If customer outgrows hosted service, SFDC only provides a
flat file data dump Dynamics: Can bring it in-house, additionally
Microsoft has strong Escrow Code policy Upgrades SFDC: Force you to
upgrade multiple times a year Cant choose timing, company may not
be ready for upgrade, additional training Customizations may be
difficult to upgrade Dynamics: With on-premise version, you upgrade
when you are ready to
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One Salesforce.com Customer's Experience: Choice, Lock-in,
Escalating Costs Turns out, that was now a new feature we had to
add to our contract for $100.00 per employee! per month Each new
release was more money if we wanted the functionality. We knew
their game, and we wanted out. Our entire business was in their web
portal, and we needed to get it out. Except, we couldnt. - Public
statement by Brandon Werner, brandonwerner.com
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Pricing and Packaging Considerations 5070 per Seat/Month 50100
per Seat/Month 100125 per Seat/Month Hosted CRM with moderate
Customization 1 0 25 Seats Hosted CRM with vertical Customization
and Backend Integration 550 Seats Hosted CRM with Customization and
Integration to Backend Systems 10 05 00 Seats End Customer Pricing
Study Competition Salesforce.com: 75 Enterprise Edition + Fees for
Add-on Features RightNow: 65 for Enterprise Edition + Fees for
Add-on Features
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Telemarketing Scripts Proposal Templates ROI Sales Tools Rapid
Configuration Tools SureStep Communities and Blogs Support
Retention Partner Resources and Tools Comprehensive tools to
support you throughout the customer lifecycle Fact Sheets White
Papers Demos and Trials Competitive Tools Consideration Customer
Presentations Product Brochures Fact Sheets Events PR Awareness
Purchase, Deployment
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Are you On Demand ready? Is there a leader that owns success
for your on- demand business? Can you make product decisions based
on real- time customer feedback? Do you offer a free trial of your
solution that converts to qualified leads? Are you truly selling a
service or just a product? Do you have programs that drive
continual adoption of your products? Do you have an industrialized
sales process to discover new leads and clients? Can your CFO
forecast renewal rates and what their impact will be to revenues?
Do you have an API/mash-up strategy/Vertical strategy?