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CONDEMNED CELL, 10 NOVEMBER 1880 Copy of Ned’s letter dated 10 November 1880, written by warder, William Buck.

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CONDEMNED CELL, 10 NOVEMBER 1880

Copy of Ned’s letter dated 10 November 1880, written by warder, William Buck.

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Transcript of letter dated Nov. 10, 1880.Page 1.Writing in the margin states:Read before the Executive Council on the 10th November 1880. (signed) Rob. Maddernes? C of CReferred to his Excellency the Governor, (signed) P.B.

Her Majesty’s Gaol.Melbourne Nov. 10/1880.

His Excellency the Marquis of Normandy

I have again taken the liberty of placingbefore you the remaining facts of my case whichhave never been placed in a true light before you.As it as been represented that I took up armsin April 1878 for the purpose of Shooting Police.but as six months had elapsed between thisalleged shooting of Constable Fitzpatrick on the15th of April and the Stringy Bark tragedy on the26th of Oct. 1878 and there neither was Robbery or anyother offence during that time, reported of having beendone by me or my Companions, & as also been statedthat I was at the shooting of Constable Fitzpatrick,but as the Police knew I had witnesses to prove mywhere abouts at the time, they did not put it in asevidence against me, therefore I could not callany witnesses. Even Constable Fitzpatrick’s ownevidence clears me of the first charge, as he swearsI neither murdered him or had any intention ofdoing such but after my mother was convictedof aiding and abetting in shooting with intent tomurder Constable Fitzpatrick I came back withthe full intention of working a still to make whiskyas it was the quickest means to obtain moneyto procure a new trial for my mother. I triedevery legal means to obtain justice therefore you cansee it never crossed my mind for revenge. If I hadhave went looking for the Police or shot them in anyof the towns then there might have been someexcuse for saying I shot them for revenge. where thetragedy occurred is quite sufficient to show that I

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never went to seek for the Police but that theycame right on to the place where I was at workand as there are many members of the Police Forcewill swear that they came with the full intentionof shooting me not arresting me byt McIntyre’sevidence is quite sufficient to show that I did notintend murder. Because he swears himself that Icould have shot them often without saying a wordand it stands to reason four men with the intentionof murdering two men would have shot them atthe first favourable opportunity they would neverhave called upon them to bail up and throw uptheir arms. McIntyre’s evidence shows that I hadhim covered when he threw up his arms andsurrendered So if my intention was to take lifeI should have shot McIntyre when I had himfirst covered. but according to his own evidenceI took my Rifle off him & covered Lonigan as hewas in the act of running to a tree and drawinghis revolver it was also stated in court that Ishot Lonigan for revenge. but McIntyre’s Evidencewill show neither me or my companions knewwho it was at the time but stands to reason if Idid intend to shoot him I should have done soand never have called upon him to surrenderAny man who calls on Police or armed men tobail up and surrender does not intend to takelife or he would not have attempted to give themwarning, as it would be utter stupidity if Iintended to commit murder to call upon themto surrender, both for Kennedy & Scanlans deathMcIntyre is the man most accountablebecause he told them a falsehood when he saidthey were surrounded and thereupon placing

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them in a wrong Position which can be seen byreferring to the Photo of the Place, and thepositions of the men also not telling them whothey were surrounded by but as they were notSurrounded what he should have (done crossed out) said was to hisSargeant was don’t move you are covered byNed Kelly and three other men. and if youattempt to fight you will be shot. but if yousurrender your arms you won’t be shot then themen would have known their exact positionit is as Judge Barry Said unlawful to disarmthe Police but then I wish to show the differencebetween disarming them & with the full intentionof murdering them even to take the Policeevidence all through & the Two years Career ofme and my companions will show that we wereanything but bloodthirsty and likewise in thewhole of our Career we never ill used or maltreatedman woman or child and alwaysrefrained from doing a cowardly act. the nextthing I wish to mention is the Crown Prosecutor’strys to point out my blood thirstiness in wearingsteel armour but this is quite Contraryfor without armour I could never have possiblyhave Robbed a guarded Bank & disarmedPolice without taking life but with armourI had no occasion for taking life. And Ican solemly swear now before God and Manthat it never was my intention to take lifeand even at Glenrowan I was determinedto Capture Superintendent Hare O’Connor & theBlacks for the purpose of exchange of prisonersand while I had them as hostages I would besafe no Police would follow me.

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and in lieu of taking them I thought itmight be as well to leave them surroundingtheir Police Barracks at Glenrowan, and getpossession of their Train and Horses withoutan encounter, and get a civilian to claim thereward, so when the Police obtained their Horsesthey would have no entisement to follow meas the reward would have been obtained, sothey would not interfere with me until suchtimes as there was another Reward issued andif they did not give the Reward to the man thatclaimed it no person would inform on me again.I know now it is useless trespassing on yourvaluable time. because the expense the Governmenthave been put too which was not my fault theywill only be satisfied with my life, althoughI have been found guilty and condemnedto death on a charge of all men in the WorldI should be the last one to be guilty off. There isone wish in conclusion I would like you togrant me, that is the release of my Motherbefore my execution as detaining her in prisoncould not make any difference to the Governmentnow. for the day will come when all men will bejudged by their mercy and deeds. and alsoif you would grant permission for myfriends to have my body that they mightbury it in Consecrated ground.

Witness William Buck Warder.Edward X Kelly.

his mark.

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CONDEMNED CELL, 10 NOVEMBER 1880

The first page of what appears to be the original letter, held by the Jamieson Historical Society.Other writing in the margin states:Read before the Executive Council on the 10th November 1880. (signed) Rob. Maddernes? C of CReferred to his Excellency the Governor, (signed) P.B.

Her Majesty’s Gaol.Melbourne Nov. 10/1880.

His Excellency the Marquis of Normandy

I have again taken the liberty of placingbefore you the remaining facts of my case whichhave never been placed in a true light before you.As it as been represented that I took up armsin April 1878 for the purpose of Shooting Police.But as six months had elapsed between thisalleged shooting of Constable Fitzpatrick on the15th of April and the Stringy Bark tragedy on the26th of Oct. 1878 and there neither was Robbery or anyother offence during that time, reported of having beendone by me or my Companions, & as also been statedthat I was at the shooting of Constable Fitzpatrick,but as the Police knew I had witnesses to prove mywhere abouts at the time, they did not put it in asevidence against me, therefore I could not callany witnesses. Even Constable Fitzpatrick’s ownevidence clears me of the first charge, as he swearsI neither murdered him or had any intention ofdoing such but after my mother was convictedof aiding and abetting in shooting with intent tomurder Constable Fitzpatrick I came back withthe full intention of working a still to make whiskyas it was the quickest means to obtain moneyto procure a new trial for my mother.I tried every legal means to obtain justice therefore you cansee it never crossed my mind for revenge. If I hadhave went looking for the Police or shot them in anyof the towns then there might have been someexcuse for saying I shot them for revenge. where thetragedy occurred is quite sufficient to show that I

CONDEMNED CELL, 10 NOVEMBER 1880(Transcript - edited version)

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Her Majesty’s Gaol,Melbourne.

His Excellency the Marquis of Normanby.

I have again taken the liberty of placing before you the remaining facts of my case which have never been placed in a true light before you. It has been represented that I took up arms in April, 1878 for the purpose of shooting Police.

But as six months had elapsed between this alleged shooting of Constable Fitzpatrick on the 15th April and the Stringy Bark tragedy on the 26th October, 1878, and there neither was robbery or any other offence during that time reported of having been done by me or my companions, and has also been stated that I was at the shooting of Constable Fitzpatrick, but as the Police knew I had witnesses to prove my whereabouts at the time, they did not put it in as evidence against me, therefore I could not call any witnesses.

Even Constable Fitzpatrick’s own evidence clears me of the first charge, as he swears I neither murdered him nor had any intention of doing such. After my mother was convicted of aiding and abetting in shooting with intent to murder Constable Fitzpatrick, I came back with the full intention of working a still to make whisky, as it was the greatest means to obtain money to procure a new trial for my mother.

I tried every legal means to obtain justice, therefore you can see it never crossed my mind for revenge. If I had have went looking for the Police or shot them in any of the towns, then there might have been some excuse for saying I shot them for revenge. Where the tragedy occurred is quite sufficient to show that I never went to seek for the Police, but that they came right on to the place where I was at work. There are many members of the Police Force will swear that they came with the full intention of shooting me, not arresting me. McIntyre’s evidence is quite sufficient to show that I did not intend murder, because he swears himself that I could have shot them often without saying a word, and it stands to reason four men with the intention of murdering two men would have shot them at the first favourable opportunity. They would never have called upon them to bail up and throw up their arms.

McIntyre’s evidence shows that I had him covered when he threw up his arms and surrendered, so if my intention was to take life I should have shot McIntyre when I had him first covered. But according to his own evidence, I took my rifle off him and covered Lonigan as he was in the act of running to a tree and drawing his revolver.

It was also stated in court that I shot Lonigan for revenge, but McIntyre’s evidence will show neither me nor my companions knew who it was at the time. But it stands to reason if I did intend to shoot him, I should have done so, and never called upon him to surrender. Any man who calls on Police or armed men to bail up and surrender does not intend to take life, or he would not have attempted to give them warning, as it would be utter stupidity if I intended to commit murder to call upon them to surrender.

Both for Kennedy’s and Scanlon’s deaths McIntyre is the man most accountable, because he told them a falsehood when he said they were surrounded and therefore placing them in a wrong position, which can be seen by referring them to the photo of the place and the positions of the men, also not telling them who they were surrounded by. But as they were not surrounded, what he should have said to his Sergeant was, “Don’t move. You are covered by Ned Kelly and three other men and if you attempt to fight, you

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will be shot, but if you surrender your arms you won’t be shot.” Then the men would have known their exact position.

It is, as Judge Barry said, unlawful to disarm the police, but then I wish to know the difference between disarming them and with the full intention of murdering them.

Even to take the police evidence all through and the two years career of me and my companions will show that we were anything but bloodthirsty, and likewise in the whole of our career we never ill-treated nor maltreated man, woman or child and always refrained from doing a cowardly act.

The next thing I wish to mention is the Crown Prosecutor’s trying to point out my bloodthirstiness in wearing steel armour. This is quite contrary, for without armour I could never have possibly robbed a guarded bank and disarmed Police without taking life, but with armour I had no occasion for taking life. I can solemnly swear now before God and man that it never was my intention to take life, and even at Glenrowan I was determined to capture Superintendent Hare, O’Connor and the blacks, for the purpose of exchange of prisoners. While I had them as hostages I would be safe. No Police would follow me.

In lieu of taking them, I thought it might be as well to leave them surrounding their Police Barracks at Glenrowan and get possession of their train and horses without an encounter, and get a civilian to claim the reward, so when the Police obtained their horses they would have no enticement to follow me as the reward would have been obtained, so they would not interfere with me until such times as there was another reward issued, and if they did not give the reward to the man that claimed it, no person would inform against me again.

I know now it is useless trespassing on your valuable time because of the expense the Government have been put to, which was not my fault. They will only be satisfied with my life, although I have been found guilty and condemned to death on a charge which, of all men in the world, I should be the last one to be guilty of.

There is one wish, in conclusion, I would like you to grant me, that is the release of my mother before my execution, as detaining her in prison could not make any difference to the Government now, for the day will come when all men will be judged by their mercy and deeds; and also if you would grant permission for my friends to have my body that they might bury it in consecrated ground.

Edward Kellyhis X mark.

Witness: William Buck, Warder.

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LETTERS SENT TO NED KELLYIn the weeks prior to his execution, Ned received quite a few letters, which were later

souvenired by John Castieau, the governor of the gaol. Of these, only the whereabouts of one is known to exist.

At the time of Ned Kelly’s execution, John Castieau was in the possession of a number of letters which had been received by him whilst he was incarcerated in the Melbourne Gaol. Castieau retained these letters during his lifetime and upon his death they passed to his son Godfrey Castieau, who had been born in Beechworth in 1866. Godfrey Castieau was an amateur actor and played the part of Ned Kelly in the first moving film made of the Kelly Gang’s exploits in 1906. Godfrey married Jessie Marie Hansen, but they had no children. Upon his death the letters passed on to his wife, and apparently over the years Jessie lost or gave away all the letters except this one, having apparently no conception of their historical value. The letter was then passed on to Diana (surname unknown), who had it in her possession in 1996. This copy of the letter is courtesy of Desmond Gibney.

Transcript of Letter:My dear Edward i am very sorry that you are sentence to death it will be a grieving

thing for your poor mother and sisters to put up with but we all have our sorrowes to put with in this world i would sooner see you dead and happy out of this miserably world than to see you imprisoned for life i no you would not like it your self it would be hard life for you after enjoying your self all over the country. my dear ned you must think of our lord jesus christ has suffered for us and you will not feel anny pain at all it will be over in a short time and ten you will be happy for all eternity all the females ladys and all would like to see you dear ned get of but they cannot do anny good for you it is some thing to be proud of it is not manny that ladys think of you had allways been so kind to the females and they are trying to do their best for you dear ned i will say good bye to you and may god bless you dear Edward pary for me and i will not forget you if you are let put a few lines in in the paper for me from your truy friend

M BThe identity of the person who wrote the letter is unknown, although the initials could

refer to several of Ned’s former acquaintances.

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The letter is written on four sheets of paper which are very fragile: