Committee E-1 News - ASTM International · 2013. 8. 28. · with my ASTM buddies. Jim Schlewitz Editor Committee E-1 News 2002 May Committee Week Held In Pittsburgh Subcommittees

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the Committee on Analytical

Chemistry for Metals, Ores and

Related Materials Sixteenth EditionMay 2002

This Newsletter is published as an aid to mem-bers in distributing to interested parties the busi-ness that is carried on at our semi-annual commit-tee meetings. It contains summaries of the minutesof all the subcommittee and main committees thatmet during committee week in May of 2002.

Most of the subcommittees had double theattendance compared to the last meeting whichwas held just after 9/11.

As usual, I had a good time in Pittsburgh beingwith my ASTM buddies.

Jim Schlewitz

Editor

Committee E-1 News

2002 May Committee Week Held In Pittsburgh

Subcommittees Reporting

E01.01-Iron, Steel, Ferroalloys

E01.02-Ores, Concentrates and Related MaterialsE01.03-Precious MetalsE01.04-Aluminum and Magnesium

E01.06-Ti, Zr, W, Mo, Ta, Nb, Hf and ReE01.08-Ni, Co and High Temperature Alloys

E01.20-Fundamental Practices and MeasurementTraceability

E01.21-Reference Materials, Proficiency Testing,Laboratory Accreditation & Liaison with S17

E01.22-Statistics and QC

E01.23-TerminologyE01.90-Executive CommitteeE01.91-Long Range Planning and Liaison

E01.94-Reference Materials for the ChemicalAnalysis of Metals, Metal-Bearing Ores andRelated Materials

Our Hotel overlooking the Three Rivers

A view of Fort Pitt Park which was right in front of our hotel

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E01.01- Iron, Steel, and Ferro-Alloys

Chairman RobertBrammer called themeeting to order at1:00 PM. Currentlythere are 72 memberson the Subcommittee,There were 22 mem-bers and guests inattendance.

E01 Opening Main Meeting

Review of Stds due for reapproval E-363 & E-367 Chem Anal of Cr & FeCr andChem Anal of FeCb were approved to be sub-mitted for reapproval with a change to referenceto E173. Also FeCb will be changed to FeNb

Opening Main AttendanceAnderson, James ................................... Retired

Beck, Gary ..................................... Wah Chang

Beckwith, Terry .................................. ZNCOA

Blakeley, St. John .......................... SHB Advis.

Brammer, Bob ........................... Brammer Stds

Britt, William ......................................... ARMI

Cole, Patrick .......................................... Allvac

Cooper, Shawn ................................ Allegheny

Creasy, Larry .......................................... Timet

Crochet, Alice .......................... Stuller Settings

Davis, Carroll ......................................... Alcoa

Deak, Charles ...................... C.K. Deak Assoc.

Eveleigh, Chris ...................... MBH Analytical

Fang, Duencheng ........................ Praxair-MRC

Fernandez, Jean ......................... Phelps-Dodge

Gapen, Douglas .................................. Timkem

Lindey, David .................. Westlake, Analytical

Malgreen, John ................... Eastern Analytical

Maul, Charles ........................................ LECO

McCann, Steve ............................ A. H. Knight

Miller, David .......................... Eramet Marietta

Myers, Robert ...................... Myers and Assoc.

O’Toole, Tom ........................................ ASTM

Ruschak, Mike ........................................ Alcoa

Savolainen, Arnold .............................. Metalor

Scrimshaw, April .................................Dofasco

Shuman, Don ........................................... Shiva

Vail, Howard ................................... A. K. Steel

Worthington, M. A. ............................... Retired

Wright, Graham .................................... Retired

One Guest

Sing Loi Ha ......................................... Dofasco

Chairman Carroll Davis opened the meeting at 8:20 following an overhead presentation for

orientation of new members.

Minutes of the last meeting were approved, pertinent announcements and items of interest from the

previous night’s Executive meeting were made. The changes in the schedule were given and the change

in chairmanships. (See Exec. Minutes)

It was noted that today’s attendance at the opening meeting is twice what it was last year.

Meeting was adjourned around 8:30 AM.

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Main Committee Ballot ReportStandard Test Methods

• New - Analysis of High Mn Steel Us-ing AES. Discussion of two commentswith agreement to accept the commentsas editorial changes to the Std TestMethod now designated E2209-02

• Revision of E-572, Anal. of Stainlessand Alloy steel by X-ray Fluor. Twonegatives were withdrawn after edito-rial changes.

• Withdrawal - X-ray Em. Spec. Anal ofLow-Alloy Steels and Cast Irons. Neg wasfound persuasive, with the condition offorming a task force to review and updatethe method to include more modern instru-mentation.

E01.01 Attendance

Joseph Arp ....................................... WCI Steel

Bob Brammer ................... Brammer Standards

Pat Cole ................................................. Allvac

Shawn Cooper ................... Allegheny Ludlum

Michelle Craig ..................... Philips Analytical

Robert Crain ...................... Allegheny Ludlum

Larry Creasy ........................................ TIMET

Carroll Davis .......................................... Alcoa

Charles Deak .................. CK Deak Tech. Serv.

Tom Dulski ................... Carpenter Technology

Chris Eveleigh ............... MBH Analytical Ltd.

Douglas Gapen ...................... The Timken Co.

Sing Ha ............................................... Dofasco

David Lindey ....................Westlake Analytical

David Miller .......................... Eramet Marietta

Peter Meyst ................... Iron Casting Research

Mike Rushak ........................................... Alcoa

April Scrimshaw ................................. Dofasco

John Sieber .............................................. NIST

Larry Somrack .......... NSL Analytical Services

David Watters ............ WCI Steel/AISI Liaison

Howard Vail ....................................... AK Steel

Task Groups• Low Level Carbon - new report• ICP (multielement) - Howard Vail

reported on this new method and that heis writing a new draft. He needs 3 or 4labs to test new methods of sample andreference material prep.

• AISI - David Watters reported that technical committees havebeen put on hold due to business conditions causing most mem-bers to not attend meetings.

• ASTM, A-4 - Denney phoned in with nothing to report.• ISO TC 17/SC1 - Flinchbaugh reported by email that the next

meeting is scheduled for Oct, 2002 in London. Activity sharplyreduced in US due to downsizing in the steel industry. One brightspot is China, which seems to have substantial time, talent, andperseverence to contribute.

ASTM ProficiencyTesting ProgramsDavid Bradleyreported to E-1.21that the carbonand low-alloy steelprogram has 99participants. TheSS program has40 partaking.

Liaison Reports

No Old Business

New Business• International Pilot Program - John Sieber from NIST de-

scribed a program to determine Cr, Mo, Ni, and Mo inlow alloy steel using methods available in industrial labsto demonstrate the state of international comparability. Seeminutes for more information.

• E415 & E1086 - Jeff Weller offered help to find labs for anew testing program to add data so as to cover instrumentsusing a nitrogen filled optic chamber for the det'n of UVwavelengths and air-path optics for the balance of the ele-ments. Those interested in joining a task group should

contact Bob Brammer.• E1019– A request was received to add hydrogen tothe procedure. Brammer will look into theavailability of materials for use in calibrat-ing and testing for hydrogen by a fusionmethod. The method also has improper useof terms, such as 'standard'. Brammer willsubmit a correctable copy of the method toASTM Editorial Department to makechanges.

– A correction to E1019 has been made in Section 1.1 Scope tomatch the scope in Section 20 concerning sulfur.

• E 350, section 1.2 has a typo (this editor was confused as towhat really has been done to correct).

• Dulski, has brought up the need to renew discussion on largeunwieldy standards such as the E350 series. He suggested agatekeeper concept for handling these multi-elemental meth-ods. A couple of volunteers for some of the elements and groupsof elements came forth, with a request for more. All E350 throughE354 series will be done together.

Meeting adjourned at 2:30 PM

• W by ICP - A new method that is waiting for E1.06 to completetesting of its procedure for anal. of Ti by ICP before proceeding.

• Glow Discharge Anal. of Cast Fe, another new method. Test kitshave been sent to several labs.

• E-1806 - two sections of procedure needs revision. They are 9.3on spoon sampling and 9.5.1 on sampling for oxygen.Flinchbaugh will report something within the next few weeks.

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Chairman Charles Bucknamopened the meeting at 8:00 AM.with 10 members and 5 guestspresent.

E01.02-Ores, Concentrates, andRelated Metallurgical Materials.

E1.02 AttendanceName AffiliationSteve McCann ......... A. H. KnightJean Fernandez ...... Phelps DodgeC. Davis ..........................ALCOAM. A. Worthington ........... RetiredC. H. Bucknam .............NewmontCharles Maul...................... LECOA. Savolainen ...................MetalorApril Scrimshaw ............. DofascoTerry Beckwith ...............ZNCOAHoward Vail ................ A.K. SteelGuestsJohn Sieber ......................... NISTAlice Crochet ......................StullyMalki Basi........................ LedouxSing Ha ........................... Dofasco

Ballot ItemsSilver Corrections Practices and Drying in SamplePrep. for Hg– Both procedures were lost in the system. Need to

be resubmitted for ballot.

Double Cupellation31 returns, 21 abstains, 8 affirmatives and 2

negatives. The method was revised to address thenegatives and submitted to Editorial for review.

Other Notes• Discussion on whether the term "master standards"

should be used or should "master alloys" be used.General feeling was the term that "master alloys"should be used in sections 12.1, 12.2.1 and 12.2.2.in E 400.

• E 945 – A neg. by Beckwith. After discussion,negative will be withdrawn with editorial changes.

• E1031 – A neg. was withdrawn by A. Schrimshaw.• E 01.02.02– Mold Flux methods needs to be fin-

ished. XRF method will be taken over by SingHa.

• E 01.02.05– Carbon-Sulfur data has several sets of data

to be presented.

– MWMP, Its in for main ballot

– Acid drainage, results of ruggedness test isattached to the agenda.

New Business• ZnO method for Zn dust – Discussion by

Bucknam and Beckwith brought out suggestionto move this procedure to the new E01.05subcommittee.

• BiO vs PbO F/A – Newmont is involved in astudy. McCann says BiO will work only in goldwork, however, fire assay furnace and cupella-tion changes do occur.

• E402 – A motion passed to accept having anegative withdrawn with editorial changes.

Meeting adjourned at 9:30 AM

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The meeting was calledto order by ChairmanArnold Savolainen.

E01.03-Precious Metals

OldBusiness

• Anal. of Refined Agby DCP – T.G. Chair-

man Savolainen re-ported that the method

would be rewritten as an ICP method. T.G. mem-bers are Horner, McInnes, Fang, Beck, Fernandez,and Savolainen.

• T.G. on imps in Pd is tabled• T.G. on imps in Pt is tabled• Ag/Pd Alloys, 90/10 & 95/5 –

A gravimetric method, Ag byChloride & Pd by DMG wasprovided by Worthington.Thomashefsky from SABINwill be asked to providesamples.

• Fire Assay method for highpurity gold (99.5%)

Savolainen reported thatthe"Gold Basket Method" new section C inE1335 to support spec B582has been returned fromEditorial.

• Methods for anal. of Impsin Pt by ICP and Pd by ICPare on hold, long term.

• Evaluation of Balances –T.G. Chairperson, A. Crochetreported that the test has beencompleted. Discussion of re-sults will be put into the "Aids for Analysts" inthe proficiency test program report.

– Worthington will edit final draft– Savolainen will write the parting section

– Worthington and Crochet will write the sec-tion on weights and balances.

• Ag/Pd Alloys – Savolainen received a copy of aHandy (a company) gravimetric method from

Worthington. A template forASTM methods is on the website.In support of request from JohnThomashefsky at METECH.

Proficiency Test• Dave Bradley reported that 30labs participated in the last test,and net loss of 5 labs from 2001.An appreciation was expressedfor the continuing statistical re-view of the P.T. data by JimKanzelmeyer and John Norris.• Au samples are ready for rug-

gedness testing of the effect of Pb weight. A studywill include temp., sample wt., Pb wt., Hi and Lo

Au content and Cu.• Consensus for 2003 Au con-tent in 4 samples are 80-82, 58,97, and 20%.

New Business• A. Savolainen reported on hisICP method for the Anal. of Ptand Pd. Accuracies of 0.5 ppt

Pd & 1 ppt Pt were obtained.

Meeting adjourned at 3:00 PM.

Reference Materials• Nothing has been done to replace

RCM Ag standards. Savolainenwill follow up.

• There is a need for pure Au.Suggested that commerciallyavailable HP Au would do.

• Possiblility of making available ofexcess P.T. material for purchaseto be investigated.

Ballot ItemsE1335

• Motion passed to ballot for reapprovalconcurrent sub/main.

E1446, Chem. Anal. of Refined Au byDCP

• To be reviewed by Fernandez andballoted for reapproval concurrently.

E1.03 AttendanceName AffiliationC. H. Bucknam .........NewmontJim Anderson ............... RetiredJ. Fernandez ....... Phelps DodgeC. L. Maul ...................... LECOS. McCann ........... A. H.KnightA. Savolainen ...............MetalorM. Basis ....................... LedouxA. Crochet ..................... StullarT. Dulski ....................CarpenterD. Shuman ......................ShivaL. Creasy ......................... TimetM. A. Worthington ......... RetiredGuestsDavid Bradley .................ASTMTerry Beckwith ............ ZINCOASt. John Blakeley ............. SHBPat Cole ......................... Allvac

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The meeting was called to order byChairman Mike Ruschak with 4 membersand 2 guests present.

E01.04-Aluminum &Magnesium

Progress reportfor ICP MethodAluminum —

• Still looking for a championto complete the method

Magnesium

• No one from the Mg Industrypresent.

Meeting AttendanceMembersCarroll Davis ............. Alcoa IncJames Anderson ............ RetiredJoe Arp ......................... WCI SteelMike Ruschak ..................AlcoaGuestsJohn Sieber ...................... NISTDavid Lindley ... Westlake Anal.

Reference MaterialsJohn Sieber of NIST gave a report on Al mate-

rials currently being worked on. They plan oncertifying 4 alloys in disk form and 2 alloys inchip form as SRMs at a minimum. Project has aplanned completion by the end of the year.

John also reported on a potential project involv-ing "global harmonization" of the analysis of Al.Volunteer industrial labs may be sought in the nearfuture.

Methods due for review• For Reapproval

E34, E35, E607 (with title change), E716

• E227 for withdrawal

• E1251 is currently in ballot

Progress Report on E1251 RewriteA revision of E1251 was submitted for sub

ballot. Results are: out of 29 ballots sent, 19ballots returned, with 13 afirm, 1 neg. and 5abstained.

The negative was found persuavsive and themethod was modified and will be sent to editorial,then be balloted concurrently.


AluminumProficiency Testing

• 27 labs participated in thelast round.

• Committee D02 has an insertwith a checklist of possiblecauses for analysis prob-lems. Should we do also?

Chairman Ruschak

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The meeting was called to order byChairperson Jean Fernandez

E01.05Zn, Pb, Cd,

Sn, Be &Other Metals

E01.05Zn, Pb, Cd,Sn, Be &

Other Metals

E1.05 AttendanceMembers

Jean Fernandez .......... Phelps DodgeJoe Arp ............................ WCI SteelTerry Beckwith ................. ZINCOAChris Eveleigh ...... MBH AnalyticalD. Fang ................................... MRCSteve McCann ........... Alfred KnightJohn Malmgreen .......Eastern AlloysCharlie Maul ..........................LECODon Shuman ........................... Shiva

VisitorsSt. John Blakeley .... SHB Adv. Serv.Charles Bucknam............. NewmontMalkit Basi .......................... LedouxBob Brammer ........... Brammer StdsBill Britt ......................Thermo ARLCharles Bucknam............. NewmontMichele Craig ....................... PhilipsAlice Crochet .......... Stuller SettingsSing Ha .......................Dofasco, Inc.April Scrimshaw .........Dofasco, Inc.John Sieber ............................. NISTHoward Vail ...................... AK SteelMary Ann Worthington ........ Retired

Reference Materials• Anode Sn RM from Bethlehem Steel – Sieber of NIST

reported analyses unavoidably delayed but now un-derway. SRM for Pb in FY02 or 03.

• Galvalume® 2426 needs to be chipped and collabora-tors sought for value assignment on Zn, Al, Fe and Si.John Malmgreen offered assistance.

Liaison ReportsB-2

• John Malmgreen reported that he is still encouragingB-2 members to get their labs involved with E01.

• April Scrimshaw's Arc/Survey results found that :a) No consensus found on methods used

b) Difficult to get an ILS done

c) Time better spent on ICP methods

ISO TC18

• Malmgreen reported that a meeting is scheduled forJune.

Ballot ItemsAction Required

• E402-95, Spec Anal. of U3O8 by Ga2O3-CarrierTechnique. Charlie Bucknam withdrew his negativewith his suggested editorial changes being made.Method then will be balloted at sub level. Afterpassing, the method will be transferred to E01.02.

• E1277-96, Prac. for Chem Anal. of Zn-5% Al-Mischmetal Alloys by ICP. Malmgreen has reviewedand a motion passed to ballot for reapproval by sub/main.

Other Items

New Std.

• Chem Anal of Zn-coated (Galvanized) and Zn-FeAlloy-coated (Galvannealed) Sheet Steel. Jean willcontact Dean as to status.

• Test methods for the Chem. Anal. of Zn-Al PotMetal. Jean will contact Dean as to status.

• E396-98, E439-98, E536-98 need reviewfor ballot-ing in 2003. Beckwith will contact people forreview.

Old BusinessE01.05 & E01.07 Merger

• Ballots are out for voting

New Business Anal. of Zn Dust

• Need methods for its analysis. Bucknam andBeckwith will cochair a task group on feasibility.Jean will set up.

Meeting adjourned at 4:25 PM

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Chairman Barrett

E01.06

The meeting was called to orderby vice-chairman Maul inchairman Barrett’s absence at1005. Membership stands nowat 32 members.

Task Group Reports• ICP method for Ti and Ti Alloys – Data being generated and

moving right along. This procedure started out as a performancebased, but has become what it is now. Task group chairman GerryBoesenecker was unable to attend this meeting.

• Guide for Applicable Spectrometric Techniques for Analysis ofTi and Ti Alloys. Maul reports no progress.

• E-539, Test Method for X-ray Emission spectrometric Analysisof Ti-6Al-4V Alloy. This method needs a Z number assigned to it.Cole will get one from Tom O’Toole. We need to expand the scopewith more elements being determined. Pat says there is enoughstandard material available for testing. Presently, it only covers Fe,Al, V.

Standards for Review/Re-approvaland Unresolved Ballot Items

• E1569, The Determination of Oxygen in Tantalum Powder wasassigned to Gary Beck for review. Fang said he would like to havethe scope lowered. He can find cooperators from Committee F1.17to do a round robin to see if a lower scope can be found. Additionalvolunteers for the RR are Beck, Creasy, Fang, MacMahon, Leco andShuman.

• E1552, Determining Hf in Zr and Zr Alloys using the D-C ArgonPlasma Spectrometer. Charlie Deak review and recommended toballot for re-approval. A motion was passed to do so.

• Agenda says Creasy would update on Future of Development ofTi RMs. Larry says he doesn’t really know what is meant by thisexcept possibly maybe developing a wish list. He will put onetogether along with a list of RMs now available. (Will include non-NIST)

With no other business, meetingwas adjourned at 11:13 AM

Beck, Gary ................. Wah Chang

Cole, Patrick ...................... Allvac

Cooper, Shawn ............. Allegheny

Creasy, Larry ...................... Timet

Deak, Charles ... C. K. Deak Assc.

Fang, Duencheng .... Praxair-MRC

Maul, Charles .................... LECO

McCann, Steve ......... A.H. Knight

McMahon, Kerry ................ Cabot

O’Toole, Tom ..................... ASTM

Schlewitz, Jim................... Retired

Shuman, Don ....................... Shiva

GuestsVail, Howard ................ A.K. Steel

Sieber, John ......................... NIST

E1.06 Attendance

Liaison to B-10 • Gary Beck reported that B-10

wants some zirconium materialtested as a round robin. Labshave said they will volunteer fortesting. Gary has 3 or 4 labsdoing metallics, with 7 labsdoing the interstitial gases.Additional labs that said theywould do testing were Shuman,Vail, Creasy, and Leco. Norestrictions as to how the testingwill be done, just report with theresults and what procedure wasfollowed. Data will be tabulatedby the method used. Hope tohave samples in various labs bynext meeting.

• B-10 has a request for thedevelopment of an ICP methodfor impurities in tungsten. Garydidn’t know anything about it.B-10 will be asked for coopera-tors, and if they don’t produceany, we will table the request.

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Cu The meeting was called to order byChairperson Fernandez at 13:10pm.

Members

St. John Blakeley .......... SHB Advisory ServicesCharles Bucknam................................ NewmontChris Eveleigh ......................... MBH AnalyticalDuecheng Fang ............................. Praxair-MRCJean Fernandez ............................ Phelps DodgeCharles Maul................................... LECO CorpSteve McCann ......................... Alfred H. KnightDon Shuman ........................Shiva TechnologiesMary Ann Worthington ........Retired, Consultant

VisitorsMalkit Basi .............................................LedouxTerry Beckwith .... Zinc Corporation of AmericaMichelle Craig .........................................PhilipsSing Ha ......................................... Dofasco, Inc.John Malmgreen ......................... Eastern AlloysJohn Sieber ................................................ NISTHoward Vail ......................................... AK Steel

E1.07 Attendance

Main Committee Ballot

• E0054-80(1996), Chem. Analof Special Brasses andBronzes passed for with-drawal with no comments.

All of the following Stan-

dards had negatives found

non-persuasive due to the fact

that they contain no precision

and bias statements.

• E0062-89(1996), Chem. Anal.of Cu and Cu Alloys

• E0075076(1996), Chem. Anal.of Cu-Ni and Cu-Ni-Zn Al-loys and Cu Alloys.

• E0106-83(1996), Chem. Anal.of Cu-Be Alloys

• E0118-89(1996), Chem. Anal.of Cu-Cr Alloys

• E0121-83(1996), Chem Anal.

Reference Materials

• Sebiloy RMs from ARMI are out for analysis.

• NIST Phos Coppers are available.

• Polish 1776 series no longer available.

• NIST is eager to help with method problems aswell as standards.

B5 Liaison

• Gilbert Montes - No report

ISO TC26/SC1 WG 7 for Copper

• There has been no activity.

• St. John Blakeley reported that TC26/SC1 nolonger exists but TC26/WG7 howerver noconvenor can be found.

Ballot Action RequiredThe following will be submittedby Jean for concurrent sub/mainballotingafter proper review andput in electronic form. Somehave editorial changes.

• E0053-98, Det'n of Cu in Unal-loyed Cu by Gravimetry

• E0478-89A(1996), Chem. Anal.of Cu Alloys.

• E0581-76(1996), Chem. Anal. ofMn-Cu Alloys.

• E0255-91(1997), Prac. for Sam-pling Cu and Cu Alloys for Det'nof Chem. Composition

Other Items

• New Std, XRF Anal. of Cu Al-loys. Copy of document cannotbe located and needs to go to

E01.07-Cu & Cu Alloys

Old Business• ICP Impurities in Copper—Somepreliminary work performed.Duencheng Fang reported that a roundrobin was underway in F117 by GDMS.He will report on the results.

• Std Test Method for AES Anal.of CuAlloys. Jean will put Draft #4 in elec-tronic form and attempt to contact JeffMorrow for the data.

• ICP Method for Chem.anal.of Cu andCu Alloys. No progress. Ms. Fernandezwill contact Mr. Morrow.

• Oxygen in Cu —no progress. Maulagreed to shepherd this item and maybe able to provide samples.• Merger of E01.05 and E01.07—Bal-lots are out for voting.

New Business• We received interest in Arc/Spark

methods from Joseph Paller of BrandywineResearch Laboratory. Ms. Fernandez will contacthim to evaluate level of interest.

• Dr. Fang and the GDMS group are looking forICPMS participants in the F117 round robin.

Ballot Items

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E01.08 – Ni, Co andHigh Temperature Alloys

Chairman Cole

Chairman Pat Cole called the meeting toorder at 8:02

Attendance for E01.08

MembersBeck, Gary ................. Wah ChangBlakeley, St. John ................. SHBBrammer, Bob............... BrammerCole, Patrick ...................... AllvacCooper, Shawn ............. AlleghenyCrain, Robert ............... AlleghenyCreasy, Larry ...................... TimetDeak, Charles..............C. K. DeakDulski, Tom .................. CarpenterFang, Duencheng ................. MRCKatcher, Mike ............ Haynes Int.Lindey, David ...... Westlake Anal.Schlewitz, Jim ................... RetiredShuman, Don .......................Shiva

GuestsSieber, John..........................NISTBill Britt ............................. ARMIDave Miller ........ Eramet MariettaDouglas Gapen ..........Timken Co.

Liaisons• ISO TC 155 – Blakeley reported that an ILS has

been completed on the Nb in Ni and Mo will com-pleted in the near future.

• B02.07 – Cole reported that he has been reviewingany new specifications for references to outdatedprocedures

Ballot Items• E1917 & E1938 will be on the next ballot.

• Pat Cole asked for volunteers on upcoming standardsthat need to be reviewed before reapproval– Dulski volunteered to review E1473-94– Blakeley to review E1587-94– Deak will review E107-88 &E016-88

Flame AA procedure for Cobalt

• St. John reported on what to do about the negativethat was received on the ballot for this std. Hesuggested we deep-six the method. A motion totable the method was passed.

XRF method for majors / Shawn Cooper

• Cooper reported that the ILS is in progress and heexpected to have testing completed by nextmeeeting;

ICP method for traces in Ni / Pat Cole

• No progress to report

Old BusinessConversion of ISO 7524, Electrothermal AA C. Deak.

• Charlie reported no progress ICP-MS, GD-MS survey

• ICP-MS, GD-MS survey – Pat intends to get survey onthe website into a Committee F1.17 Survey. (See Nov01 minutes) Discussion about the use of ICP-MS for NiAlloys brought out the comment that if a method weredeveloped, the rapid advance of technology wouldoutdate the written method. Tom Dulski suggested thatthe survey be broadened to include all methods for traceelements, i.e. eletctrothermal AA..

New BusinessUse of Commercially Supplied Std Sol’ns

Blakeley asked about their use. NIST says toalways ask supplier to provide documents on theirsource material. NIST is supporting the commer-cial suppliers to provide documentation on theirsource material. They provide sol'ns in sealedglass ampoules on a wt/wt basis.

There was a consensus that home built stdsol'ns are equivalent to commercial Stds.


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E01.20-Fundamental Practices and Measurement

Larry Creasy, newly appointedChairman called the meetingto order.

There was no ballot reports,either Main or Subcommittee.

Revisions andReapprovals Under

Development

E0130-87(1996)• Prac. for designation of Shapes and Sizes of

Graphite Electrodes – James Anderson. Re-approve.

E0406-81(1996)• Prac. for using Controlled Atmospheres in

Spectrochemical Analysis – Reapprove.E0409-85 (99)• Prac. for Description and Performance of

the Microphotometer – Drop since there isvirtually no spectrographic work being done.

E1059-91(2001)• Prac. for Designating Shapes and Sizes of

Non-Graphite Counter Electrodes – Reap-prove

E1172-87(1996)• Prac. for Describing and Specifying a Wave-

length-Dispersive X-ray Spectrometer –Drop since manufacturers will build accord-ing to the current technology.

E1507-98• Guide for Describing and Specifying the

Spectrometer of an Atomic Optical EmissionDirect-Reading Instrument – Myers – Majorrevision underway.

E1184-98• Prac. for Electrothermal (Graphite Furnace)

Atomic Absorption Anal. Will ballot revision,adding magnetic field warning.

E1361-90 (99)• Guide for Correction of Interelement Effects

in X-ray Spectrometry – Sieber presentedrevision to be balloted.

E1621-94(1999)• Guide for X-ray Emission Spectrometric

Analysis – Creasy says to combine E1621with E1622

E1622-94(1999)• Std Prac. for Correction of Spectral Line

Overlap in Wavelength-Dispersive X-raySpectrometry. Combine E1621 with 1622.

Attendance for E01.20 meeting

MembersAnderson, James ............................... ConsultantArp, Joseph ........................................ WCI SteelBeck, Gary L............. OREMET-WAH CHANGBeckwith, Terry F ....................Zinc Co of AmerBlakeley, St John ............................... INCO LtdCooper, Shawn ......................Allegheny LudlumCrain, Robert M ....................Allegheny LudlumCreasy, Larry ..........................................TIMETDavis, Carroll ........................................ ALCOADeak, Charles...................... CK Deak Tech ServDulski, Thomas .......................... Carpenter TechFang, Duecheng .........................Matls Res CorpGapen, Douglas ..................................... TimkenLindey, David ..................... Westlake AnalyticalMyers, Robert ............................ Myers & AssocO’Toole, Thomas .....................................ASTMSavolainen, Arnold ........ Metalor USA RefiningSchlewitz, James ..................................... RetiredScrimshaw, April.......................... Dofasco SteelSieber, John R. ........................................... NISTWorthington, Mary Ann .......................... Retired

GuestsBrammer, Robert .......................... Brammer StdBritt, William ........................................... ARMICole, Pat ................................................... AllvacCrochet, Alice ............................ Stuller SettingsEveleigh, Chris ........................ MBH AnalyticalFernadez, Jean ............................. Phelps DodgeHa, Sing ................................................ DofascoMaul, Charles........................................... LECOMiller, David .............................Eramet MariettaRumble, John ............................................. NISTShuman Donald .................. SHIVA TechnoloiesWatters, David ................................... WCI SteelWright, Graham ...................................... Retired

Chairman LarryCreasy

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Report on Non-NIST ReferenceMaterials

• Chris Eveleigh presented information about newcertified reference materials available from MBHAnalytical. Information is supplied on pages 7 to 9of the official minutes.

• Bill Britt supplied information on new materialavailable from ARMI. See page 10 of officialminutes.

• Tom Dulski stated that a new catalog of referencematerials is available form Carpenter Technology.You may contact CarTech at:[email protected]

• Carrol Davis stated that a catalog of referencematerial is available from Alcoa. You may contacthim at: [email protected]

E01.20-Continued

New Standards UnderDevelopment

ICP Operating Guide• Worthington/Myers - In ProgressPractice for Specifying Automated SpectrometerSystems• Flinchbaugh - No progress to report at this

meeting.Practice for Describing Solid State Detectors inEmission and Absorption Spectrometry • Myers - No need, dropGuide for Evaluating Samplers• April Scrimshaw will take over this project.Guide for Writing Sampling Practices• Deak - No need, Drop.

Long Range Planning andFuture Work Proposals

Practice for Describing and Specifying LaserAblation-ICPMS• Myers, work in progressPractice for Describing and Specifying LaserAblation-ICPAE Spectrometer• Myers, work in progress

E01.21- Reference Material Planning,Proficiency Testing and Lab. Accreditation

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Chairman Deak

Subcommittee meeting called to orderby Bob Brammer at 9:15 am. Bob filled infor Charlie Deak. There were 18 membersand guests present.

There were no Reference Materialrequests to discuss.

Exploratory WorkPractice for GD-MS• Shuman/Myers - No progressPractice for GD-OE• Myers - ProgressingGuide for Validating In-House Methods toSupport Accreditation when Standard Methodsdo not exist • Blakeley -In progressPerformance Based Methods• Flinchbaugh - No report

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E01.21- ContinuedUpdate on ASTM Standardsrequiring actionE1452-96, Std Prac. for Prep of CalibrationSol'ns for Spectrophotmetric and SpectroscopicAA

• Due for review and reapproval ballot this year.Charles Deak will revise the practice to include ref-erence to traceability. Some terms will be changed,for example, Calibrating Solution will be changedto Reference Solution. The terminology subcom-mittee requests changing "Spectroscopic AtomicAnalysis" to "Atomic Spectrometry Analysis."

ASTM ProficiencyTestingDavid Bradley gave an update on the program. Hisreport is on page 11 of the official minutes.Number of participants is:

Total Labs International LabsPlain Carbon& Low Alloy Steel 99 31

Stainless Steel 40 14Gold in Bullion 30 14Aluminum 27 12

AdjournmentWith No Old or New Business todiscuss, the meeting wasadjourned at 10:15 AM

E01.21 Attendance

James Anderson .............................. RetiredJoseph Arp .......................................... WCIMalkit Basi .......................... Ledoux & Co.Gary Beck ................................ Wah ChangTerry Beckwith .......................... Zinc Corp.St. John Blakely .... SHB Advisory ServicesBob Brammer ............. Brammer StandardsBill Britt ............................................ARMIPat Cole.............................................AllvacShawn Cooper ............... Allegheny LudlumRobert Crain ................. Allegheny LudlumLarry Creasy ................................... TIMETAlice Crochet ......................Stuller SettingsCarroll Davis ......................................AlcoaCharles Deak............. CK Deak Tech. Serv.Chris Eveleigh .......... MBH Analytical Ltd.Duencheng Fang ................... Praxair-MRCJean Fernandez ..................... Phelps DodgeDouglas Gapen ................. The Timken Co.Sing Ha .......................................... DofascoDavid Lindey .............. Westlake AnalyticalJohn Malmgreen .................. Eastern AlloysCharles Maul................ LECO CorporationSteve McCann ..................Alfred H. KnightDavid Miller...................... Eramet MariettaRobert Myers ... Myers and Associates, Inc.Thomas O'Toole ............................... ASTMJohn Rumble ...................................... NISTMike Rushak ......................................AlcoaArnold Savolainen ... Metalor TechnologiesJames Schlewitz .............................. RetiredApril Scrimshaw ............................ DofascoDon Shuman ..................... Shiva AnalyticalJohn Sieber ........................................ NISTHaas Tandon ......................................AlcoaDavid Watters...................... WCI Steel Inc.MaryAnn Worthington .................... RetiredGraham Wright ............................... RetiredHoward Vail ................................. AK Steel

Update on NIST StandardReference Materials

Dr. John Sieber discussed the status ofNIST SRMs. See pages 3 through 6 ofthe official Minutes of this meeting. Hissummary follows:

• NIST is still in the SRM® business, butresources are limited because it is fee-based work.

• NIST can work with commercial RMsuppliers, individual corporations, andother NMIs to develop methods andCRMs.

• NIST can help establish Traceability, butTraceability is the responsibility of theRM user.

• SRM®s are tools for transfer of capabilityand validation of results, not just markersfor establishing quality systems.

• NIST is a unique resource capable ofsolving problems in chemical metrology.

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E01.22-Statistics andQuality Control

Chairman Horner

The meeting was calledto order by CarrollDavis filling in for JackHorner.

E01.22 Attendance

MembersJames Anderson ........................................ RetiredJoseph Arp ........................................... WCI SteelGary Beck .......................................... Wah ChangTerry Beckwith ........................................ZNCOASt. John Blakeley .......................................... SHBG. Robert Brammer ....................... Brammer StdsShawn Cooper......................... Allegheny LudlumRobert Crain ........................... Allegheny LudlumLarry Creasy ............................................. TIMETAlice Crochet ................................Stuller SettingsCarroll Davis ............................................ALCOADouglas Gapen ......................................... TimkenDavid Lindey ........................ Westlake AnalyticalRobert Myers .............................. Myers & Assoc.Arnold Savolainen ................................... MetalorJames Schlewitz ........................................ RetiredApril Scrimshaw ...................................... DofascoMary Ann Worthington ............................. RetiredGuestsMike Ruschak ..................................ALCOACharles Deak............. C.K. Deak Tech. Serv.David Watters............................... WCI SteelJohn Malmgreen .................... Eastern AlloysPat Cole ...............................................AllvacDon Shuman ........................................ ShivaSing Ha ............................................ DofascoChris Everleigh ...................MBH AnalyticalDavid Miller........................ Eramet MariettaJean Fernandez ....................... Phelps DodgeJohn Sieber .......................................... NISTJohn Rumble ........................................ NISTMichelle Craig ................................... PhilipsMaulkit Bagi ..................................... Ledoux

Modification of E305-89 (1994) Practice forEstablishing and Controlling SpectrochemicalAnalytical Curves.• A negative by Creasy was found persuasive. Jim

Anderson is working on finishing changes to ad-dress the negative which will then be reballoted

Modification of E876-90 (1995) Practice for the Useof Statistics in Evaluation of Spectrochemical Data.• Two negatives were found persuasive. Jim Ander-

son gave a presentation of the Study of Outliers inReference to E876 which is attached to the officialminutes as a PFD. After discussion, a motion wasmade and passed that Jim's document be a new stan-dard. Fate of E876???

Review/modification of E826-85 (1996) TestingHomogeneity of Materials for Development ofReference Materials.• This will be submitted for joint ballot at sub and

main to shake out negatives and comments.Review E882 Guide for Accountability and QualityControl in the Chemical Analysis Laboratory.• Mr. Horner is working on and will compare it with

E1329 and ISO 17025.Performance Base Method • Flinchbaugh is working on.

Active Task Groups

E305-89(1994) Prac. for Estabalishing and ControllingSpectrochemical Analytical Curves.• Negative vote form subcommittee ballot resolu-

tion is pending.E158-86 (1996) Practice for Fundamental Calculationsto Convert Intensities into Concentrations in OpticalEmission Analysis.• Ready for concurrent ballot in 2002.

Standards Review for 2002

Old Business E01 Quality Manual under the section of ManagingInterlaboratory Studies (Statistical Policy – Draft #6)

• Mary Ann Worthington completed the change to thewording asked for at the last meeting.

Research Reports• A concern was raised about the format and style to be

used. ASTM does have guidelines in its "Form andStyle for ASTM." Discussion involved the possibilityof E01 developing its own guide which was tableduntil next meeting.

New BusinessResearch ReportsSt. John Blakeley made a motion that was passed requiringE01 to adopt the policy that the research report will be madeavailable upon request and not be sent out with each ballot.

Meeting Adjourned

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E01.23-Terminology

9 members and 27guests attended theFirst Session held at8:45 AM right afterthe opening session.

Chairman Myers

Editorial Changes

¥ Changes were completed and appear in the newversion of E135 that was approved 11/10/01 andpublished in January 2002

E01.23 AttendanceFirst Session

MembersAnderson, James .......................... RetiredBeckwith, Terry ......................... ZNCOABlakeley, St. John H......... SHB Adv ServCreasy, Larry; ............ Timet CorporationDavis, Carroll D. ........................... AlcoaFernandez, Jean A. ............ Phelps DodgeMyers, Robert B. .... Spectro Insight, Inc.O’Toole, Thomas ..........................ASTMWorthington, M. A. ...Retired, Consultant

GuestsEveleigh, Chris ............. MBH AnalyticalFang, Duencheng ............... Praxair-MRCGapen, Douglas .............The Timken Co.Ha, Sing .............................. Dofasco Inc.Lindley, David .........Westlake AnalyticalMaul, Charles................................ LECOMiller, Dave ...................Eramet MariettaRuschak, Mike ............................... AlcoaSchlewitz, Jim .............................. RetiredScrimshaw, April................. Dofasco Inc.Shuman, Don ......................... Shiva TechSieber, John..................................... NISTTandon, Hans ................................. AlcoaWright, Graham ........................... RetiredArp, Joseph G. ........................ WCI SteelBeck, Gary ............................ Wah ChangBrammer, Robert ..... Brammer StandardsBritt, Bill ....................................... ARMICole, Pat ........................................ AllvacCooper, Shawn .......... Allegheny LudlumCrain, Robert M. ....... Allegheny LudlumCrochet, Alice P. ............. Stuller SettingsDeak, Charles K. ...... CKD Tech Services

Sub Committee Ballot E01.23 (01-01)

• Both items (OES for withdrawal and AES as replacement)passed. Several Standards and some terms in E135 needto be changed to reflect the withdrawal of OES.

Items receiving negatives on Main 02-01

Item 46—repeatability—Negative persuasive. This term wasalready withdrawn from E135 on Sub and Main Ballotsof 2000 and 2001 respectively.

Item 51—sample, uniform Negative persuasive. This termis not found in E135. sample, umpire is the term definedand it will be reballoted as such.

Item 8—combine—Passed a motion to find the negativepersuasive and ballot the term for withdrawal because itis commonly understood.

Item 32—line pair—Passed a motion to find the negativepersuasive and ballot the term for approval with the addi-tion of the modifier in Atomic Emission Spectrometry.

Item 38–preform—Passed a motion to find the negative per-suasive and ballot the term for withdrawal because it is nolonger needed.

Item 44—reading a motion passed to find the nega-tive persuasive and ballot the term for withdrawalbecause it is in common usage

Item 59—standard reference material (SRM) Passeda motion to find the negative persuasive and ballotto remove the term from the definitions and place itwith abbreviations as follows:

SRM®–A CRM issued by NIST that also meets additionalNIST-specified certification criteria. Reference Docu-ment: NIST Spec. Pub. 260-136.

First session adjourned atMonday, 9:18 AM

Items receiving negatives onMain Ballot 02-01, continued:

Item 60—target—Negative persuasive and will bal-lot the term for withdrawal because it is commonlyunderstood and adequately defined in a dictionary

Item 29—K-series—Passed a motion to find the nega-tive persuasive and ballot the term for approval withthe following: a set of X-ray wavelengths composedof K radiation.

Item 31—L-series—Passed a motion to find the nega-tive persuasive and ballot the term for approval withthe following: a set of X-ray wavelengths composedof L radiation.

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E01.23 AttendanceThird Session

E01.23-Terminology, continuedMeeting called back to order at 3:30 PM

Attendance at SecondSession

MembersAnderson, James RetiredBlakeley, St. John H. SHBCreasy, Larry Timet CorporationDavis, Carroll D. AlcoaDulski, Thomas Carpenter TechFernandez, Jean A. Phelps DodgeMyers, Robert B. Spectro InsightWorthington, Mary Ann Retired

GuestsBasi, Malkit Ledoux & CoSieber, John NISTTandon, Hans AlcoaBrammer, Robert Brammer StandardCooper, Shawn Allegheny LudlumCrochet, Alice P. Stuller SettingsDeak, Charles K. CKDTS IncGapen, Douglas TimkenMaul, Charles LECOShuman, Don Shiva Tech

Item 7—certified reference material (CRM)—Passed amotion to find the negative persuasive and ballot the fol-lowing for approval:

• a reference material, accompanied by a certificate, oneor more of whose property values are certified by a pro-cedure which establishes traceability to an accurate re-alization of the unit in which the property values areexpressed, and for which each certified value is accom-panied by an uncertainty at a stated level of confidence.

DISCUSSION—See also SRM.

Item 53—select—Passed a motion to find the negative per-suasive and ballot the term for withdrawal.

Item 62—verifier—Passed a motion to find the negative non-persuasive because of the distinction between calibrationand standardization.

Note: Action at Closing Main—Passed a motion by Mr.Blakeley, seconded by Charles Maul, to uphold the action

of the Sub (15 for, 1 against and 2 abstentions).

Item 61—triggered capacitor discharge—Passed amotion to find the negative persuasive and ballotthe term for approval with the following: a series ofelectrical discharges from capacitors initiated by a sepa-rate means and extinguished when the voltage acrossthe analytical gap falls to a value that no longer is suffi-cient to maintain it.

The DISCUSSION portion will be dropped and theterm should be reformatted editorially to read dis-charge, triggered capacitor.

Item 10—concentration index—Passed a motion tofind the negative persuasive and ballot the term forwithdrawal.

Item 15—fatigue—Passed a motion to find the nega-tive persuasive and ballot the term for approval add-ing the modifier in atomic spectrometry.

Item 16—filter—The negative was withdrawn. Passeda motion, the words “reaching the detector” andreballot.

Item 17—filter, neutral—The negative was with-drawn. No other action necessary.

Item 20—grating, plane—Passed a motion by to findthe negative persuasive and ballot the term for ap-proval adding the word “diffraction” before theword “grating”.

Anderson, James ....................... RetiredBucknam,Charles .................. NewmontBlakeley, St. John H.....SHB Adv. Serv.Deak, Charles K. ...............CKDTS Inc.Creasy, Larry .......... Timet CorporationGapen, Douglas ...................... . TimkenDavis, Carroll .............................. AlcoaShuman, Don ..................... Shiva Tech.Dulski, Thomas ........... Carpenter Tech.Fernandez, Jean ..............Phelps DodgeMyers, Robert B. ..........Spectro InsightWorthington, M. A. ................... Retired

Meeting called back to order at 4:30 PM onMay 7th for a third session.

Items receiving comments on Main 02-01, continued:

Item 30—L radiation—After discussion, the consen-sus was to take no action.

Item 28—K radiation—After discussion, the consen-sus was to take no action.

Item 11—division—Passed a motion to reballot theterm with the following definition:

in sample preparation, a process which divides asample into two or more subsamples withoutchanging the composition.

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Item 47—sample, gross—Passed a motion to reballotthe term with the following definition:

a sample representing one lot of material and com-

posed of a number of increments on which neither

reduction nor division has been performed.

Item 5—burn, n—After discussion, the consensus wasto take no action.

Item 6—burn, vt—After discussion, the consensus wasto take no action.

Item 9—comminution—Passed a motion to reballotthe term with the following definition:

in sample preparation, a process that reduces theparticle size of a sample.

Item 12—electrode—After discussion, the consensuswas to take no action.

Item 23—increment—After discussion, the consensuswas to take no action.

Item 33—lot—After discussion, the consensus was totake no action.

E01.23-Terminology, continuedItem 48—sample, laboratory—Passed a motion to

reballot the term with the following definition:a subsample, taken from the prepared sample of a lot, for

submission to one or more laboratories for chemicalanalysis.

“See select.” to be removed.Item 49—sample, prepared—Passed a motion to

reballot the term with the following definition:

a subsample, taken from the gross sample, on whichcomminution, division, blending, or other proce-dures have been performed.

Item 2—arc line—After discussion, the consensus wasto take no action.

Item 56—spark line—After discussion, the consensuswas to take no action.

Item 35—monochromator—After discussion, theconsensus was to take no action.

Item 63—X-ray emission spectrometry—Passed amotion to ballot the term for withdrawal.

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• for minutes of these meetings isJune 8th rather than the July 24thdeadline stated in the report. E01by-laws state that the minutes aredue in 30 days.

Committee Funds

• General E01 Fund has a balanceof $266.39 as of April 1, 2002

• The ISO Fund has a balance of$1,783.54 as of April 1, 2002

New ASTM website features aredescribed in the report

• one of which is standards devel-opment tools. Steps in making a

Attendance for E1.90 meeting

E01.90-Executive Committee.

Chairman Davis Vice-ChairmanWorthinton

MembershipSecretary Brammer

Recording SecretarySchlewitz

MembersBrammer, Bob....... Brammer StandardsCole, Pat ..................................... AllvacCreasy, Larry .............................. TimetDavis, Carroll .............................. AlcoaDeak, Charles........... C.K. Deak Assoc.Fernandez, Jean ..............Phelps DodgeMyers, Bob .............. Myers and Assoc.O’Toole, Tom ............................. ASTMRuschak, Mike ............................ AlcoaSavolainen, Arnold .................. MetalorSchlewitz, Jim ........................... RetiredWorthington, Mary Ann ............ RetiredGuestsBlakeley, St. John ........SHB Adv. Serv.Basi, Malkil .................. Ledoux & Co.Maul, Charles............................. LECOMcCann, Steve .......... Alfred H. Knight

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Carroll Daviscalled the meetingto order at 6:34 PMwith 12 membersand 4 guests present

revision to a standard are statedalong with submitting a ballotitem electronically.

Website Discussion

• Tom O’Toole says we need tofollow some overall rules so thatthe website will be easy to openand download for those withslower home computer servers.Charlie Bucknam suggested that

as much asinformation as possible be inHTML. This whole topic will bediscussed in more detail at LongRange Planning meeting later inweek.

• Changes after main committeeballoting should be on actualdocuments then submitted.Other documents should be en-tered electronically. .

Staff Support

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Editor Ellie Barkley 610-832-9643 [email protected]. Asst. Lisa Drennen 610-832-9735 [email protected] Karen Wilson 610-832-9733 [email protected] Mgr. Tom O Toole 610-832-9739 [email protected]

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Subcommittee Reports (not all had reports)

E01.90, Continued

Old Business

E1.01 — No major items to discussE1.02 — Steve McCann reported for C. Bucknam. Steve opened up the problem of

getting hardcopies of ballots since it is difficult for him to get email. Charlie saidhe is having trouble also. During the lengthy discussion, Tom O Toole statedthat if you request hard copies of methods being balloted, you should get themall by regular mail. Carroll suggested that the three of them get together laterand work it out.

E1.03 — No items.E1.04 — Mike says that he has one negative that will be taken care of without

coming back to Main with it.E1.05/07 — Merger ballots are out. Lots of work to do. A method to be moved to

E1.02 jurisdiction.E1.06 — Charlie Maul will fill in for Jack Barrett. Says there are lots of issues.E1.08 — Cole hopes to get lots of discussion on agenda items.E1.20 — Larry has to get his feet wet.E1.21 — John Sieber is giving a NIST SRM update presentation. Charlie Deak

stated a need for a standard method of determining uncertainties. Mary Annsuggested using the 45 minutes of spare time to discuss Dean Flinchbaugh sguide on uncertainties. No further discussion.

E1.22 — Carroll Davis will fill in for Jack Horner who will not be here.E1.23 — Besides switching meeting times with E1.94, Terminology will take the 45-

minute slot Monday Morning.E1.24 — There are no standards being reviewed by Editorial at this time.E1.91 — Mary Ann described her frustration of trying to have a concurrent sub/main

ballot electronically for approval of the QA manual. After many back and forthswith Tom O Toole it was decided at the present time it couldn t be done. Thissubcommittee has a 3-hour session slated for Wednesday morning.

E1.93 — The awards sub has no meeting time scheduled. It was decided to takecare of business by correspondence. Carroll said that representatives to E1.93are needed from E1.03, E1.08, E1.23, E1.05/07, and E1.22

E01 by-laws – St. JohnBlakeley recommended that anexception be made to correct astatement that E1.94 is takencare of separately. Society

New Business• Testing Linearity – Howard Mark

of Committee E-13 contactedCarroll that he has drafted apractice for testing the linearityof an analytical procedure. (Hesays he has a nifty method) AfterCarroll made a limited query ofcommittee members, he ascer-tained that there was interest. Hetold Mark to keep us informed ofhis progress, and if he needed

any help. During discussion, BobMyers stated that linearity is notthe same for all analyticalprocedures. There was some fearexpressed that something mightbe published that we wouldn’twant out there. Carroll will askfor copies of the practice whencompleted for our review.

• Uncertainty Task Group – Nonews from Dean Flinchbaugh.

• Education and Training sub-committee E1.92 – Mary Annmoved and Charlie Maul sec-onded to eliminate this subcom-mittee. After some discussion,the motion was approved.

• Use of Commercial StandardSolutions – Blakeley asked ifE01 has a policy on the use ofcommercial Standards ratherthan building standards fromscratch. He never did get a directanswer, but it was mentioned thatsome bad standard solutions havebeen purchased, but alternativelyit was stated that at the present,they are very reliable. Mostpeople do not make their ownwas sort of a consensus. Thisitem will be added under NewBusiness to the E01.21 agenda.

• Research Reports – Blakeleyasked about the need for a fullresearch report being attached toa standard being balloted by asubcommittee . He suggestedthat a summary be supplied, andthat a full report only be suppliedwhen requested. This questionwill be brought up in the Statis-tics Sub meeting.

AdjournmentOccured at 9:17 PM

New Business Continued

New SubcommitteeChairs

Dean Flinchbaugh has re-signed as chairman of E01.20,Fundalmental Practices. LarryCreasy accepted to take over theposition contingent upon hisdropping the chair of the Edito-rial Subcommittee. Carroll askedRobert Myers to replace Larry,and he accepted. Another chairthat Larry chairs is Educationand Training. This will be takenup under new business.

Circular Letter Ballot #718 –Concerns a revision on theregulation governing ASTMTech Committees. It does awaywith provisional ballots. Allsubcommittee chairs and maincommittee officer should re-spond by July 15, 2002.

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E01.91-Long Range Planning and Liaison

The meeting was called to order bychairperson Worthington with 20persons, 16 members and 4 guests attending the meeting. E1.91 has 30members.

ChairpersonWorthington

Liaison (Shawn Cooper)

• Reports were heard from A04, B02.05, B02.07 & B10.

• Efforts to find representatives for several unresponsivecommittees are being worked out. Liaison reps will be listedon the E01 website.

Membership (Bob Brammer)

• Committee membership has seen a net loss of one membersince the last meeting. Brochure upgrade will include a copyof the current E01 newsletter. The E01 Newsletter will beincluded in Proficiency test packets.

• Letters of invitation to attend meetings were sent to indus-tries & universities/colleges in the Pittsburgh area. Contactwith NAVLAP and A2LA affiliated laboratories to encourageASTM participation.

Old Business

• L. Creasy discussed historicaldocuments. Original documentsand PDF files have been sent toT. O’Toole at ASTM. CD’s willbe included with the official hardcopies of the Quality Manual.

• J. Fernandez is scanning the E-2suggested methods. QualityManual should contain an indexof suggested methods for readyreference.

• ASTM maintains archives oncurrently available electronicmedia – currently CD ROM &previously on microfiche.

E01.91 Attendance

MembersSt. John Blakeley ...... SHB Adv.Serv.C. Deak ............. CK Deak Tech Serv.G. Brammer ....... Brammer StandardsT. Dulski ............................ CarpenterC. Bucknam ...........Newmont MiningJ. Fernandez ................. Phelps DodgeP. Cole ......................................AllvacC. Maul ....................................LECOS. Cooper ............. Allegheny LudlumT. O’Toole ............................... ASTML. Creasy ................................... TimetA. Savolainen ........................ MetalorA. Crochet ..................Stuller SettingsJ. Schlewitz ............................ RetiredC. Davis ............................... ALCOAMA Worthington .................... RetiredGuestsD. Shuman ........................Shiva TechD. Gapen ................................ TimkenM. Ruschak .......................... ALCOAG. Beck ........................... Wah Chang

Website ManagementSchlewitz [chair], Brammer,

Blakeley & Deak reaffirmed to

be on website management TG.

Review of website document

postponed to new business.

• D.F. was not at the meeting.Dean Flinchbaugh document, i.e.the uncertainty section for the“Blue Book” has met someresistance to changes at Societylevel. This document will berewritten as an E01 document.E2165-01 – Estimated Uncer-tainty Budget for ChemicalAnalysis of Metals was to bepublished in Jan. 2002 and isbehind schedule. Editorialrevision has been made and it isback on track to be published inthe next E01 section.

Implementation of Strategic Plan(D. Flinchbaugh) • Performance based

method is in processof formulation.Discussion from floorconcluded that a firm definitionof “performance based” needs tobe described, describe a perfor-mance-based method and setlimits for its latitude. Discussedan editorial change to 2.2 Pro-mulgate standard samplingpractices that: 2.2.1 Producesamples that are compositionallyrepresentative of the material andare of a form suitable for analy-sis. Motion: for editorial change

Quality Manual(St John Blakeley)

Joint sub main ballot was not

possible for parts 1 & 2. A Sub

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E01.91, Continued

New Business

• Discussion of archiving docu-ments. T. O’Toole reported thatall minutes submitted arearchived for legal & historicalpurposes.

• E01 needs a policy and a systemfor maintaining documents. T.Dulski suggested that ASTMprovide an archive system forcommittees.

• Suggested that an E01 policy fordocument retention be formu-lated, have ASTM review forfeasibility and legality, retrievingResearch Reports and control ofMinutes from Main & Subs.Schlewitz [Chair], Davis,Blakeley will draft document andreport at November meeting.

• Continuing discussion fromASTM breakfast re F-16 obser-

vation that reapproval date ofstandards does not appear onevery page of the document. Thiscan be a problem in the elec-tronic age – how does one ensurethat the document is in tact.

• MOTION: Bucknam moved andseconded by Cole that E01support the concerns of F-16 andappeal to COS that ASTMconsider placing the reapprovaldate on every page in electronicstandards. Deak & Worthingtonto draft the letter.

• Revision of document relatingto the website:

• Upper case for Document inparagraphs 2.1 &2.7.

• 4.3 Documents on the websiteshall be posted in the mostappropriate format: secure-non-revisable and as workdocuments.

3. Paragraph 5.1 upper case forQuality Manual

Discussed expediting test methodsand reviews. Assign a trackingnumber,making the sub respon-sible for action and use liaisoncontacts to provide additionalpersonnel for testing.

Brainstorming: Pat Cole suggesteduse of on line forums be consid-ered e.g. “Web enable meetings”.It was reported that ASTM isassessing several formats as wellas assessing on line trainingmodule formats. Expect to hearmore in the future.

Meeting wasadjourned at

10:45.

E01.94-Reference Materials forthe Chemical Analysis of Metals,

Metal-Bearing Oresand Related Materials

Chairman Larry Creasy called the

meeting to order at 2:30 PM

Jim Anderson .................................... RetiredJoseph Arp ................................... WCI SteelGary Beck ...................................Wah ChangTerry Beckwith ........ Zinc Corp. of AmericaSt. John Blakely .................... SHB AdvisoryBill Britt .............................................. ARMIRobert Brammer ................... Brammer StdsPatrick Cole ........................................AllvacShawn Cooper ............... Allegheny LudlumLarry Creasy ........................................ TimetCarrol D. Davis .................................. AlcoaTom Dulski ................................. CARTECH

Chris Eveleigh ................... MBH AnalyticalJean Fernandez .................... Phelps-DodgeDouglas Gapen ...................... Timken Co.John Lindey .................. Westlake AnalyticalCharles Maul....................................... LECODave Miller ......................... Eramet MariettaRobert Myers .................................... RetiredThomas M. O’Toole........................... ASTMJohn Rumble ........................................ NISTDon Shuman ................................Shiva TechHoward Vail .................... AK Stell ResearchMary Ann Worthington ..................... Retired

E01.94 Attendance, May 2002

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NIST Report

• The NIST Report is provided as attachment 1 to theofficial meeting minutes.

• NIST representative John Seiber gave an overview ofNIST and the SRM Program Office.

• There were concerns over the status E01.94 / S-17recommended reference materials that are not on theattached status report. NIST representative JohnRumble stated that it is up to the committee to informNIST of any previous requests that to do appear on thestatus after determining the need for the referencematerial. It would be best if this list was provided toNIST from Committee E01 before the beginning ofAugust. Tom Dulski indicated that he could providesuch a list to NIST. John Seiber asked if the involve-ment of commercial reference material producers needsto be increased.

• There were questions asked concerning the researchchemist. Concerns were also raised relating to the timeinvolved in NIST informing E01 that they can or can-not develop a reference material as commercial con-cerns may need to be contacted at that time.

• John Seiber added that new priorities should continueto reflect the highest priorities.

• There were no new requests received since the lastmeeting.

• Tom O’Toole discussed the need to continue the dia-log concerning the NIST / ASTM MOU agreement asdiscussed at the November 2001 meeting and recordedin the November meeting minutes (extracted portionof November 2001 minutes provided as attachment 2to official minutes).

• During this portion of the meeting Tom Dulskiinformed the group that Carpenter Technology has anew reference material catalog.

• The ARMI representative distributed a list of referencematerials for several rare earth metals and asked thatanyone interested should contact him.

• Bob Brammer asked that the E01.94 bylaws be revisedto provide a recommended mechanism for how NISTcould contact commercial producers should NIST de-termine that it would not develop a particular refer-ence material. Mary Ann Worthington added that arevision to this effect should be a high priority.

• Charles Deak added that he will continue to distributeand review the Reference Material Request Forms.

• John Sieber also added that there is a database of na-tional metrology labs available.

Requests and PreviousRequests

AttendanceBeck, Gary ....................... Wah Chang

Blakeley, St. John ........... SHB Advis.

Brammer, Bob .............Brammer Stds

Bucknam, Charles .............. Newmont

Cole, Patrick ............................ Allvac

Cooper, Shawn .................. Allegheny

Creasy, Larry ............................ Timet

Davis, Carroll ........................... Alcoa

Deak, Charles ........ C.K. Deak Assoc.

Dulski, Tom ............... Carpenter Tech

Fernandez, Jean ........... Phelps-Dodge

Gapen, Douglas .................... Timkem

Maul, Charles .......................... LECO

O’Toole, Tom ......................... ASTM

Ruschak, Mike .......................... Alcoa

Savolainen, Arnold ................ Metalor

Shuman, Don ............................ Shiva

Sieber, John ...............................NIST

Worthington, M. A. ................. Retired

Carroll Davis opened the meeting at 11:02 AM.• We then proceeded with subcommittee reports. For full

reports on each subcommittee’s proceedings check theindividual subcommittee’s minutes.

E1.01 – No items for Main. 200% increase in attendance overlast year.

E1.02 – No items for Main. They are struggling somewhat withelectronic balloting.

E1.03 – No items for Main. They had a lot of action.

E1.04 – No items

E1.05/07 – There were 5 negatives dealt with by the committee,all dealing with the standard withdrawal of 5 separate Cu/Cualloy procedures. The same person voted all the negativeswhich all stated the same problem, that is that there are noother standards for the specification committees to referenceas analytical procedures for the product. In all cases, thesubcommittee found the negatives non-persuasive with sub’svote being in all cases either 8-0-1 or 7-0-1, affirm. –Neg.–abst. The reason for non-persuasive is that the procedures

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Future meetings

Nov. 3-6, 2002 .......Miami Beach, FLMay 4-7, 2003 ....... Kansas City, MONov. 4-7, 2003 ................... Tampa, FlMay 16-19, 2004 .........Salt Lake, UTNov. 7-10, 2004 .... Washington, D.C.May 15-18, 2005 ................ Reno, NVNov. 6-9, 2005 .................. Dallas. TXMay 14-17, 2006 ........... Toronto, ONNov. 12-15, 2006 ............Atlanta, GA

being withdrawn all have no statistics to back up theprocedure. The Main Committee voted on the non-persuasive as follows:

1. E-62 – Charlie Bucknam moved and BobBrammer seconded to find the negative non-persua-sive. Main voted 18 affirm. 0 neg. 0 abst. in favor ofthe motion.





E1.06 – No items for Main

E1.08 – No items for MainE1.20 – No items for Main

E1.21 – No items for Main

E1.22 – No items for Main.

E1.23 – Terminology had a negative concerning thedefinition of the word ‘verifier’ that they found non-persuasive with a vote of 8-0-1. Blakeley moved andCreasy seconded that Main uphold E1.23’s non-persuasive. The motion passed 15-1-2.

E1.24 – Editorial had no meeting. Bob Myers isapproved as new chairman by a voice vote. CharlieBucknam moved and the Charlie Deak seconded themotion for approval.

E1.91 – 1) A ballot is coming out for approval of QAmanual. 2) The committee voted to send a letter toASTM Headquarters in support of concern for thefact that Standards do not have proper headings oneach page. (See E1.91 Minutes)

E1.92 – This committee was disbanded

E1.93 – Will take care of business by email

E1.94 – No new reference materials requested.

Other Business

• Tom Dulski announced the publication of a peerreview journal by ASTM on-line. Accessibility topapers after a symposium is possible. There will be acharge of some sort. Also it will be citable and makepapers available as soon as possible.

• The QA Manual ballot is still out there for reviewand to be voted upon.


E01-Main Committee Closing Continued