Chat Webinar with Elliot Washor

Personalize Learning Webinar Series

Personalization and Student Engagement with Elliot Washor 4/22/14

- Melissa @getztech joined the Main Room. ( 1:48 PM ) - Melissa @getztech 1:48 PM

Hello!

Peggy George 1:48 PM

the keynotes yesterday were excellent!

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Hi Melissa Where are you from


Hi Melissa! Great to see you!

Hi Stephanie! Welcome! 1:49 PM

Stephanie Dennehy 1:49 PM

Hi there! I'm from Bowling Green, KY

Melissa @getztech 1:49 PM

It is great to be here. Always love the warm welcome. I'm from the SF Bay Area, CA.


I'm joining you from Phoenix AZ where it's a beautiful but slightly warm day. About 89 degrees on my patio


Yes, it is nice to see you again.


right

Happy Earth Day everyone!! 1:50 PM

I was in Earthcast 2014 all day long today! Sheila Adams from New Hampshire organized it. It was excellent! 1:50 PM

yes! she's a great friend of mine! 1:51 PM

we have been doing this for years as part of EdTechTalk 1:51 PM

this was our 7th annual earthcast 1:51 PM

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how wonderful!!

one of her former students is with NASA and they have done some Google Hangouts with him 1:52 PM

G. Williams 1:52 PM

Hi, I am here in Henry County!


Hi G. Williams! Welcome!

G. Williams 1:52 PM

Gena Williams @ Woodland Middle School


I tweeted it again about 30 minutes ago

G. Williams 1:53 PM

Yes! I am in your class!


Can you enable the profiles for all of us?

G. Williams 1:54 PM

No problem... There is a lot of us!


tools>profile>everyone

yeah! thanks! 1:54 PM

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Howard Rheingold is the keynote for the Learning Revolution at 4:00pm PDT Should be great!

http://learningrevolution.com/ 1:56 PM

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Howard could be anywhere in the world! he's so connected!

G. Williams 1:56 PM

I am on a borrowed computer... so I can't retrieve a picture right now. My computer is with our IT cause it is having some major problems.


Hi Kelley and Linda! Welcome!

Elliot Washor 1:57 PM

Hi Everyone

Linda Frankenberg 1:57 PM

Linda and Hailey are from Elkhorn and we are in your class!

We are watching together on a SMARTboard. 1:57 PM


how exciting!!!!

I'm alone 1:58 PM


I am alone!


they always know it will be recorded too

http://www.personalizelearning.com/p/webinar-series.html 1:59 PM

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Hello hello!


Hi Patrick! Welcome!

Sounds great! 2:01 PM

Kelley Tanner 2 2:01 PM


So great to have Elliot with us today!!

you're welcome! 2:02 PM

if you're hearing now your audio is great 2:03 PM

it's great for me 2:03 PM

all is good!!!! 2:03 PM


heard everyone great

Patrick Riley 2:03 PM

Audio is great.


the talk button will be grayed out unless you are given mic permissions

this is my favorite tip of all! if the chat window isn't stretched out it's very hard to keep up with the chat 2:05 PM

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Hi Betty! Welcome!

Phoenix AZ for me 2:05 PM

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you can drag it around too if it doesn't go where you want it

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fun!! love seeing where everyone is located!

time zones are tricky for all! I go to TechTalkTuesday with folks from Australia and it's on Monday nights at 11:00pm for me 2:06 PM

it's always terrific!! Anne Mirtschin is the organizers. 2:06 PM

http://www.bigpicture.org/ 2:08 PM

Barbara Bray 2:08 PM

Thank you Peggy!

We will be archiving this webinar and the chat 2:08 PM


so excited to be hearing from Elliot!!

it's all yours Elliot! 2:09 PM


Yeah Elliot! From Gallup Poll - less engagement as they move to high school


Elliot's book with Charles Mojkowski http://www.leavingtolearn.org/

hahaha! friendly skies airline! I have to sing the song to find out which airline! 2:11 PM

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Hi Craig! Gret to see you!

Shay 2:11 PM

Western (symptoms) vs Eastern (root-cause) medicine mindsets.


Hi Craig!!!


did they give you free drinks????


So sad that focus is on things and not people


so true

I know about tiger moms! former principal here... 2:13 PM


Amy Chua - Tiger mom - http://amychua.com/


Elliot's blog: http://www.leavingtolearn.org/elliots-blog/

Kathleen McClaskey 2:15 PM

Focus on well-being and happiness. Sounds like the Gallup poll taken each year


well-being and happiness - not allowed to being in a system that makes you sicker than when you started the system


hahaha!!! the eraser is gone...


Peggy - didn't notice the eraser was gone


great story!!

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Finland children start school at 7 years old


storng connections to the things you do well, getting support form the community


GOGOGOGOGOGOGO--USA


We figure out how to connect the dots with our own rules and how dots are connected by starting with mystery - love this

Shay 2:20 PM

Students are NOT and should NOT be treated as widgets.


Starting with algorithms depersonalizes learning

Agency = trustees and advisors 2:21 PM

Shay 2:21 PM

Powerfully . . . sad term: "depersonalize."


do you have the link to that video? we can watch it later


www.today.com/news/meet-family-who-sent-six-kids-college-12-1C9316706

We will add all the links to the webinar archive page 2:22 PM


thanks


Have we created a culture that stops questioning?


so sad - if learners are not asking questions, then they are passive in their learning - need to change the culture that encourages questions


Very passive toward many aspects of life--education, learning, success...


school needs to fit learner, learner needs to fit school

Shay 2:26 PM

"Rules without relationships lead to rebellion." ~ Dr. David Haglund


Nice.


the same thing is true for teachers and their personalized learning


Great quote, Shay

Shay 2:26 PM

Thanks, Kathleen. The quote was from a conversation at Starbucks.

Learning takes place off-campus all the time. 2:27 PM


Any questions about each of these expectations?

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Learning can take place anytime, anywhere!


no questions about them but agree with them


At ones own pace...


Hi Doug Henry! So glad you could join us!


Learning is not in a straight line!

Shay 2:29 PM

Learning-thinking is natural-normal part of the heart-mind human experience.


Our first learning experiences were through play

Shay 2:30 PM

Learning is a messy spiral and even ziggy and zaggy at times.


I learn more from play.

Practice makes perfect -- heard this growing up 2:30 PM

Shay 2:30 PM

Play is emotional. It activites the limbic system.


Choice give ownership

Shay 2:31 PM

"What we learn with pleasure, we never forget."


Authentic - is it real? do I own it?

Time to get rid of worksheets. 2:32 PM


Connected and challenged

Shay 2:32 PM

Doing school vs. Discovering life?


Apply and publish for the real world

When real world comes in to play, there are uncertainties. We need to learn how to learn and live with uncertainties. 2:33 PM

Shay 2:33 PM

Real world = real people= real connections.


How many of you have personalized learning plans?

Shay 2:35 PM

I need to develop a PLP.


Strong go-to person in their lives - all of us need that. Someone who is there for us.

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www.edutopia.org/is-school-enough-real-world-internship-video

Shay 2:37 PM

What is the difference between time and timing?

Yes. (Duration vs Sequence) 2:38 PM

Betty Wottreng 2:38 PM

Have schools used these ten in conversing with kids? I looked at the Kappan article from May, and I like the "I" statements.


yes - any time means doing the same thing in a different sequence or time frame but not doing things differently.


Have schools used these ten in conversing with kids' parents?


do you have a link for the article Betty?

Shay 2:41 PM

Great question!


I just read the article...statemlents like "Do I find what the school is teaching relevant to my interests..etc" I like how these are worded.


How do these ideas mesh with students competing with each other to get limited spaces in specific colleges?


The article is here: http://www.bigpicture.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Kappan_article.pdf


especially with how their students are being assessed

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Great stuff! What would our students say today if we asked them these questions?


May Issue of Kappan focused on Student Learning: Engagement and Motivation


thanks Betty!


You are welcome!


are these goals meant to get kids in college or to be successful in life

Shay 2:45 PM

It seems like parents should write a letter to the school at less twice a year that addresses these topics with their child in mind and placed in student cumulative file. Thoughts? Is this realistic?


The UC system only accepts the top 12% or something like that. Most parents in CA whan their kids to go to a UC.

@Barbara- yes, that is what I'm thinking about 2:46 PM

usmaestra 2:46 PM

How does this look at the elementary level?


Necessity is the mother of invention... When there is enough need for change (like you mentioned @Shay with parents), colleges will be forced to be "creative" in their acceptance process...

Shay 2:46 PM

Student mentality vs Learner mentality?


interesting thought

Shay 2:47 PM

YES! Then what does the "A" mean?


the crime is getting an A but not knowing the content


The UC system is not going to change to let in anybody who thinks they belong there.

Craig Nansen 2:47 PM

Have to go soon. Will this be archived?


if we are talking about personalization learning for each student should one of our goals is that all students go to college?


Craig - yes we will be archiving the webinar and the chat


it will be posted here Craig http://www.personalizelearning.com/p/webinar-series.html


totally agree


The heirarchy of colleges in CA drives how K-12 schools are organized. The science class a students is placed in in 9th grade can determine if s/he is going to be ready for a UC or not. That decision is often made in 8th grade.

I'm not saying this is right. This is just reality for most kids whose parents don't have money to send them to whatever school they want to attend. 2:49 PM


Class rank for some KY schools is determined by the math sequence of classes in 6th grade! Whether you pass a test to progress to an advanced class...


that's sad Melissa!

Craig Nansen 2:50 PM

Got it. Thanks. Need to review some of the concepts mentioned in this webinar.

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I dreamed of having a classroom that could be driven by student choice, but the reality of who I was being held accountable to forced me to choose to be more systematic in my teaching methods.


Melissa - it is just not right that teachers are held accountable for what learners learn


I would love to see student-centric schools, but I am unfortunately seeing the opposite happening as schools are becoming more effiicient and 'accountable".


that is true in most schools Melissa--sad but true

Shay 2:52 PM

Factory-minded students cannot compete in a world with challenges facing our global challenges. Our learners need to discover that "imagination is greater than knowledge." (A. Einstein)

usmaestra 2:54 PM

Is Benjamin Bloom's work more theoretical? Or does it also offer application for how it could look at the elementary level?


This is Elliot's blog post she just mentioned: http://www.personalizelearning.com/2014/04/what-do-you-mean-by-personalization.html

I like his statements here on the 5 Things: http://www.thefivethings.org/elliot-washor/ 2:56 PM

I loved Seymour Sarason when I was doing my doctoral dissertation 2:58 PM


Bloom's Book that Elliot referenced is "Developing Talent in Young People"

Shay 2:58 PM

Just ordered the book on Amazon. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks, Elliot, for writing your thoughts down for the rest of us to ponder.


I agree Shay


Developing Talent in Young People by Benjamin Bloom http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Talent-Young-People-Benjamin/dp/034531509X


sure

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http://www.leavingtolearn.org/


Thank you Barbara and Kathleen for hosting this event. Thanks to Elliot. This is so interesting!


Thank you Betty for coming


Thank you Betty for being here and asking questions


the Big Picture Learning videos are here: https://www.youtube.com/user/bplearning/videos


Thank you for a great webinar!


Thank you Patrick


Thank you Patrick! Appreciate your participation


lots of great food for thought! Thank you Elliot!


thanks everyone!

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no worries. I'm surprised my dog didn't bark at your dogs


Thank you for the presentation and for respecting my comments. Have a great evening!

Shay 3:04 PM

Thanks, everyone! Amazing session. Thank you, Barbara and Kathleen, for making this happen!

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Elliot, you rock!


http://www.leavingtolearn.org/elliots-blog/?bib_page_offset=10

usmaestra 3:04 PM

thank you

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Bye, Ladies.

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Thank you!

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