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.... __. 1 go where you wish. You're discharged from the 2 Rule and excused as a witness . 3 THE WITNESS: Thank you, Judge. 4 (The witness was excused from the 5 courtroom. ) 6 THE COURT: The State may call your next 7 witness. 8 MR. DOBBS: We call Lorna Beasley. 9 (The witness entered the 10 courtroom. ) 11 THE COURT: Ms. Beasley, if you would, 12 come on up and let me swear you in. 13 (The witness was sworn by the 14 Court. ) 15 THE COURT: Okay. Please have a seat up 16 here. I guess the microphone is pretty well 17 adjusted. 18 You may proceed. 19 LORNA BEASLEY, 20 having been duly sworn to testify to the 21 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, 22 testified as follows: 23 DIRECT EXAMINATION 24 BY MR. DOBBS: 25 Q State your name for the record, please. GINGER COMPTON, OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER 7TH DISTRICT COURT TYLER, TEXAS 75702 41

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1 go where you wish. You're discharged from the

2 Rule and excused as a witness .

3 THE WITNESS: Thank you, Judge.

4 (The witness was excused from the

5 courtroom. )

6 THE COURT: The State may call your next

7 witness.

8 MR. DOBBS: We call Lorna Beasley.

9 (The witness entered the

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11 THE COURT: Ms. Beasley, if you would,

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15 THE COURT: Okay. Please have a seat up

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18 You may proceed.

19 LORNA BEASLEY,

20 having been duly sworn to testify to the

21 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,

22 testified as follows:

23 DIRECT EXAMINATION

24 BY MR. DOBBS:

25 Q State your name for the record, please.

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A My name is Lorna Beasley.

Q And how are you employed?

A I'm a criminalist with the Texas Department

of Public Safety Crime Laboratory in Garland where I

currently serve as supervisor of the Serology DNA

Section.

Q Bow long have you been employed by the

Department of Public Safety?

A For almost 17 years.

Q Can you tell this jury over here the

background, the experience that you have for the

position that you now hold?

A Yes, sir. I have a Bachelor of Science

Degree in Chemistry from East Texas State University.

I was employed with the Department of Public Safety

and stationed at the headquarters laboratory in

Austin. There I was instructed in the examination of

blood specimens for alcohol content, the examination

of blood and body fluids and trace evidence, such as

hair, fiber, glass, and paint, and also the

examination of controlled substances.

After I finished my training in Austin, I

was stationed in Garland. Since being in Garland, I

have had the opportunity to attend more schooling in

preparation for our DNA program that we have

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in DNA now since 1996.

Q What are the duties that you currently

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A Currently, besides the normal duties of

accepting evidence and analyzing evidence, I also

oversee the chemists that work under my direction.

Q Is the Garland lab one of the regional

Department of Public Safety crime labs?

A Yes, sir.

Q How many regional labs are there, do you

know?

A There are approximately 12.

Q Is there one located in the City of Tyler?

A Yes, sir.

Q What is the difference in what the Tyler

lab can do and what the Garland lab can do?

A In Tyler, the laboratory performs drug

analysis, along with analysis of blood specimens for

alcohol content, and they do firearms and tool marks

analysis.

In Garland, we do the drug analysis and the

blood a~cohols. We don't do firearms, but we do

blood and body fluid and trace evidence analysis.

Q Now, in the course of your employment with

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the Department of Public Safety, have you received

submission forms from Smith County law enforcement

agencies on few or many occasions?

A Many occasions.

Q Have you testified in the district courts

of our county on a number of times?

A Yes, sir, I have.

Q Have you been certified as an expert in the

7th District Court?

A Yes, sir.

Q In the 114th?

A I'm not sure about the 114th.

Q That's Judge Kent.

A Yes.

Q Numbers don't mean much to you.

A No, they don't.

Q How about in Judge DeVasto's court that

used to be Judge Booker and Clayton?

A I believe I've testified before Judge

DeVasto also.

Q Do you remember Judge Tunnell?

A No, sir.

Q Okay. Now, in the course of your

employment, did you receive submissions specifically

from the Smith County Sheriff's Department regarding

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A Yes, sir .

Q What does that LlD number mean?

A That means that it ' s Laboratory Region One ,

Dallas, which - - it's really in Garland, but it's

just called "D" for Dallas.

Q Now, why would representatives of Smith

County come to the Garland crime lab and submit

evidence? What would be the reason to come to your

laboratory?

A The evidence that we get from Smith County

is involving blood and body fluid analysis and other

trace.

Q Did you receive from the Smith County

Sheriff's Department as of July 27th, 1993, some

hairs and fibers collected from the master bedroom

comforter of a residence that you understood belonged

to Elnora Griffin?

A Yes.

Q Did you receive white panties from the

master bedroom comforter?

A Yes, sir.

Q Did you receive a bra from the master

bedroom comforter?

A Yes.

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Q Did you receive a pink pillow with some

type of stain and unknown substance from the living

room floor where the deceased was found?

A Yes .

Q Did you receive a green pillowcase?

A Yes, sir.

Q Did you receive a comforter from the master

bedroom?

A Yes.

Q A curtain tie back from the master bedroom?

A Yes, sir .

Q Did you receive an envelope with a red chip

from the deceased's buttocks ?

A Yes, sir .

Q Did you receive a white blanket from the

guest bathroom floor?

A Yes .

Q Did you receive is a curtain from the

washroom?

A Yes, sir.

Q Did you receive two cigarette butts and a

burned match stick?

A Yes.

Q Did you receive a white housecoat?

A Yes.

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Q Did you receive a number of submissions of

hairs and fibers?

A Yes, I did.

Q And I'll skip over the rest of it from that

point forward. Did you receive hairs and fibers from

just a large number of locations throughout a crime

scene?

A Yes, sir.

Q Is that customary?

A Yes, it is.

Q For you to get a large number of hairs?

A Yes .

Q In someone's residence, does a residence

accumulate hair over time?

A I know mine does personally.

Q I was talking more about your professional

experience . When you do these crime scenes, do you

routinely find a large number of different hairs --

A Yes.

Q -- that may have nothing to do with the

actual crime, when the agencies go to the trouble of

vacuuming and lifting and doing things like that?

A Yes, sir .

Q Did you receive a green fitted sheet?

A Yes, sir.

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1 Q Did you receive a red polish chip?

2 A Yes.

3 Q Did you receive some blood specimens?

4 A Yes, sir.

5 Q Did you receive a sample of what was

6 believed to be feces?

7 A Yes.

8 Q From the master bedroom floor?

9 A Yes, sir.

10 Q Did you receive a carpet standard from the

11 master bedroom floor?

12 A Yes.

13 Q Did you receive a -- two possible nail

14 chips?

15 A Yes.

16 Q Hairs -- excuse me -- blood-soaked

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Yes, sir.

Did you receive a butcher knife and a bread

Yes.

-- from the kitchen drawers?

Yes, sir.

Did you receive a washcloth?

Yes.

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shoes of a suspect?

A Yes, we did .

Q Did you also receive a sexual assault

evidence collection kit?

A Yes.

Q Let me talk to you and take one issue out

of order. Do you-all do any testing on fecal

material?

A No, sir, we did not .

Q So did you perform any kind of testing on

what was marked as your Exhibit No . 45, which was the

scrapings from the shoes of Edward Ates?

A No, sir.

Q What did you do with that?

A That item was returned to Smith County

Sheriff 'a Office .

Q Do you know whether or not it was later

sent to the FBI lab in Washington?

A Yes, it was.

Q Did you while it was in your care,

custody, or control, did you even open the evidence

sack?

A No, I don't believe I did.

Q Did you do anything to change or alter the

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2 in the custody of DPS before you sent it back?

3 A No, sir.

4 Q Did you receive blood and hair standards

5 from the victim, Elnora Griffin?

6 A Yes, I did.

7 Q Did you receive blood and hair standards

8 from the suspect in this case, Mr. Edward Ates?

9 A Yes.

10 Q Do you know how those items were obtained,

11 if they were voluntary or not?

12 A I do not know.

13 Q Did you receive blood and hair standards

14 from a person by the name of Leonard Moseley?

15 A Yes, I did.

16 Q All right. Now, with regard to the

17 analysis that you did, perhaps the best way to do

18 this is to take these item by item. What was the

19 testing that you, if any, did you perform on item

20 number -- your Item No. 1, which are hairs and fibers

21 collected from the master bedroom comforter?

22 A These hairs were compared to hairs from

23 Suspect Ates.

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Okay. What type of comparisons?

Microscopic.

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of all, let me just ask you this question: Hair

comparisons are not exact. Would you agree with me

on that?

A Yes, sir.

Q But do they give you some indication of

inclusion and exclusion?

A Yes, they can.

Q Did you microscopically compare any hairs

from the master bedroom that were similar to

Mr. Ates, the master bedroom comforter, your Exhibit

No. 1?

A Okay . I'm having to flip through two or

three different reports here. If you will bear with

me.

No, sir.

Q Now, could you tell us anything else that

you found from Item No. 1 that was of any evidentiary

value?

A I just noted that I recovered gray,

plastic-like material from the comforter.

Q Some kind of gray, plastic-like material?

A Yes.

Q Was it like -- what types of items,

microscopic items?

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Let me refer to my notes.

I just described them as gray, plastic-like

scrapings were also in the envelope.

Q Okay. With regard to Item No. 2, the white

panties from the master bedroom comforter, what

testings did you perform on that item?

A I looked for the visible presence of blood

and did not detect any. There were slight stains in

the crotch area; however, presumptive tests for the

presence of semen were negative on those stains. I

also recovered hairs from those panties.

Q Did you compare them to all the standards

that you had?

A Yes, I did, and none were similar to

Mr. Ates.

Q Or Mr. Moseley?

A Let me see. No, they weren't similar to

Mr. Ates or Mr. Moseley.

Q Were they similar to the victim or

microscopically similar?

A Yes, they were .

Q Did that surprise you?

A No, it did not .

Q With regard to the Exhibit No. 3, the bra

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A I looked at it for the visual presence of

stains. I did not detect any significant stains. I

did recover hairs, though.

Q All right. And did you compare those to

the three standards that you had?

A Yes, sir. It was not similar to Ates' head

or pubic hair standard.

Q Did you compare it to Moseley and the

victim?

A No, I didn't.

Q Did virtually everything you find have some

type of hair somewhere on it?

A There were hairs on quite a number of the

items, yes.

Q Is that uncommon?

A No.

Q Were you able to -- with regard to

Exhibit 8, the pink pillow with stains from the

living room floor, were you able to test that for the

presence of any blood?

A Yes, and it was negative on several stains

on the pillow.

Q With regard to your Exhibit No. 9, the

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presumptive test for the presence of semen on the

stains and the presence of blood?

A Yes, and both tests were negative.

Q With regard to the comforter in the master

bedroom, did you do a presumptive test for the

presence of blood?

A Yes, I did.

Q And did you do a -- was there actually a

semen of blood group substances which were detected

on one stain on the comforter?

A Yes, there was.

Q And would it have been degraded enough to

not to respond to PGM typing?

A That's possible.

Q What does PGM mean?

A PGM is an abbreviation for the name of an

enzyme called phosphoglucomutase, and this enzyme is

found in blood, semen, and vaginal fluid.

Q Now, the -- a comforter, did you

routinely -- maybe you can tell the jury the answer

to this question that was posed to a previous

witness. If a semen stain is left on something like

a comforter and it's not dry cleaned or washed and it

has dried, how long can it still have some

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A It can be viable for typing for years in

some cases.

Q The fact that a semen stain may be found on

something like a comforter, does that mean that there

has been someone who has ejaculated on that comforter

even in the last six months?

A That's possible, yes.

Q Does it tell you that it's happened within

six months, within a year, within two years?

A No, I have no way to date it as far as the

time it was deposited.

Q Would it surprise you to find something

that is similar to blood group substances that are

similar to someone who has had a romantic

relationship with the victim on a comforter?

A No.

Q Does it in any way indicate proximity in

time to leaving of the stain?

A I'm sorry. I'm not following that one.

Q Do you understand my question? Does the

presence of a stain on something like a comforter

indicate that that person has been in proximity to

the comforter recently?

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Q At some point in time?

A At some point in time, yes.

Q And this stain, semen, and blood group that

you found, didn't even respond to PGM typing; is that

correct?

A That's correct.

Q Let me ask you: The blood group substances

B and H, is that sort of a preliminary screen as you

start beginning to isolate the identification of a

particular stain or substance?

A Yes.

Q What can you say about the frequency of

blood group substance B or H? Do you know if they're

common?

A Blood group substances B and H are both

found in blood group B from a person who is a blood

type B. In this case, they would have to be a

secretor. Approximately 75 percent of the population

will secrete their blood group substances in their

other body fluids, and the other 25 percent of the

population, you won't be able to detect their ABO

blood type in their body fluids, and this only refers

to ABO blood typing, the secreter status.

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someone that's a blood group B or it can also be a

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Q Did you find that Leonard Moseley had a

blood group B?

A Yes, he is an ABO blood group B. I was

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his secreter status.

Q You don't know even know if he was a

secreter or not?

A That's right.

Q That stain did not match the Defendant's

blood; is that correct?

A That's correct.

Q Now, with regard to Item 11 or the curtain

tie back, did you notice anything other than some

fibers?

one?

A No, sir.

Q Clear fibers and some blue fibers?

A Yes.

Q Is that the extent of your analysis on that

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1 Q With regard to Item No. 12, the envelope

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5 chip that appeared to be nail polish.

6 Q Was it a slightly darker color than the

7 polish that was on the victim's fingernails at the

8 time of the autopsy?

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15 A Yes, I did.

16 Q Were both those tests negative?

17 A Yes.

18 Q Did you perform any kind of analysis on a

19 curtain that was in the washroom?

20 A Yes, sir. Presumptive tests for the

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23 Q On Item 17, cigarette butts from the guest

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Q Was that consistent with the victim's

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A Yes. The victim is blood group 0 secretor,

and H is consistent with her blood group.

Q Did you know at the time -- were you given

any historical data as to whether or not she might go

in that bathroom and smoke and not let anybody know

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Q You just did the scientific tests?

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Q Now, with regard to the housecoat, tell the

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housecoat.

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did not see any visible blood or semen stains on the

item . I did denote that there was a brown substance,

possible feces, present on the housecoat, and then

recovered hairs and a small green thread.

Q Were there any visible blood or semen

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A No, sir.

Q Did you recover some hairs from there,

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Q Did you compare those to the Defendant's

and the victim's and Mr. Moseley's hair?

A Yes. On Item No. 20 or my Item No. 20,

there were no hairs. All of the hairs that were

visually similar to the victim's -- excuse me -- so I

did no further comparison.

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fibers collected from actually the fitted sheet of

the master bedroom, did you find a hair from that

group that you found to be microscopically similar to

Mr. Edward At e s' pubic hair?

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Q Now, did you perform a supplemental test on

that, a DNA test, and compare that hair to the

victim's blood, Mr. Ates' blood, and to Mr. Leonard

Moseley's blood?

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1 Q What did you find when : you did that? What

2 further DQ Alpha and DlS80 DNA tests?

3 A When I performed that testing, the root of

4 the hair that I recovered from the sheet was

5 different DQ Alpha and DlS80-type from Mr. Ates and

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11 A Yes.

12 Q Did you -- was there anything in the

13 envelope when you opened it up?

14 A No, there wasn't.

15 Q Did you note that in your report?

16 A Yes, sir.

17 Q Did you also perform some testing on the --

18 on the blood stains, suspected blood stains from the

19 site of the kitchen bar from the kitchen floor tile?

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Your evidence 27 and 28?

Yes, sir.

What was the result of those tests?

Human blood containing H antigen was

in the stain from the kitchen bar.

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A Yes, sir, it is.

Q Is the victim's blood group O?

A Yes.

Q On Item 28, what did you find?

A Human blood of group O, PGM one plus, two

plus was detected in the stain from the kitchen

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Q Di d you -- I think you've already indicated

that all the samples of feces that were submitted to

you, you did no analysis on; is that correct?

A Yes, sir.

Q Now, with regard to Item No. 31, the

fingernail chip, did you take a look at that?

A Yes .

Q What did you discover: about that?

A That it was painted with a pinkish-red

metallic polish and was slightly darker than the

polish on the victim's fingernail clippings in my

Item 51. This chis appears to have been cut and not

torn.

Q Cut, you mean like with clippers, clipped?

A Yes, sir.

Q Now, I'll ask you to take a look at your

Item 32, which is also, I believe, a chip . Would you

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A This exhibit contained a chip of apparent

nail polish in a pinkish-red with silver glitter .

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fingernail clippings in Item 51.

Q Did you perform any testing on your Item

No. 34?

A Yes, I did.

Q What can you tell the jury about Item 34

and what was your test result?

A I detected human blood of group O in the

stain on the pillowcase. It did not respond to PGM

typing.

Q Did you do a presumptive test for the

presence of blood on Items 38 and 39, the two knives?

A Yes, sir.

Q What was the result of that ?

A It was negative on both knives.

Q Did you find anything else on the knives?

A I recovered a few minute white fibers.

Q If there had been blood on the knives and

they had been wiped down with something that had a

white fiber texture to it, would it be possible to

get all of the remnants off of the knife and leave

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1 A It would depend, I think, in part on how

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3 Q If there was a tremendous amount of blood

4 on the knives, would you expect someone would be able

5 to wipe them down where you wouldn't find any type of

6 remnant?

7 A I guess that's always possible.

8 Q Would they have to do a pretty decent job

9 of wiping it down, though?

10 A Yes, sir.

11 Q If there was anything left, your

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13 A If anything was left on the knife, yes.

14 Q With regard to the washcloth, did you find

15 anything on Item 40?

16 A No, sir.

17 Q Did you find some hairs and fibers from the

18 living room floor, the master bedroom floor, and the

19 guest bathroom floor?

20 A Yes, sir.

21 Q Were there some there that you were not

22 able to match to either -- were there hairs that did

23 not match the victim, the Defendant, or Leonard

24 Moseley? That's your Item 42, 43, and 44.

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2 One of the hairs was somewhat similar to the victim's

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4 On the living room floor -- let's see

5 that's also Item 43 -- there were several hairs that

6 I looked at. None of them were similar to Mr. Ates .

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8 microscopically, and it was not similar to Mr. Ates.

9 And the rest of the hairs were ~isually similar to

10 the victim, so I did not do a microscopic comparison

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12 Q Estimate for the jury how many hairs,

13 individual hairs, were submitted to you. Do you have

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15 A I would say just unknown hairs, probably

16 around between one and two hundred hairs possibly.

17 Q Is that customary for a crime scene?

18 Customary is probably a bad phrase to use, but do you

19 routinely get a large number of hairs submitted?

20 A No, this seemed like a large number of

21 hairs in a submission to me.

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They pulled a bunch of them?

Yes, sir .

Trace evidence to send to you?

Yes.

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exhibit and stayed there for a little while and

talked with you and came back, would you likely be

able to go up there and somehow find some hair of

mine sitting there that you could compare it with?

A I guess that's possible.

Q Now, let's go to Item 51. Tell the jury

what Item 51 was.

A Item 51 was victim's head and pubic hair

standards, head and pubic combings and nail

clippings. I'm looking at that submission form. Let

me look back at my notes.

It was, in fact, a sexual evidence

collection kit from the victim.

Q And what do you do as a serologist in terms

of looking at a sexual assault kit before you can

come into this jury or any other jury and determine

whether or not you have found evidence of sexual

assault?

A We analyze the items in the kit.

Specifically looking for the presence of semen on

samples that hospital personnel have taken from a

victim. These are usually vaginal, anal, or oral

swabs and smear slides that we're looking at.

Q Did you find any type of positive results

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A No, I did not find any semen on vaginal

swabs, anal swabs, or oral swabs. The vaginal, anal,

and oral smear slides, I found no spermatozoa. In

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blood . On the pubic hair combings, there were no

apparent foreign hairs. This is just a visual

examine comparing hairs that were combed from the

victim's pubic areas to a known sample that was taken

from the vic t im's pubic area.

There were hairs present also in the

exhibit marked hairs from the victim's body, and

these were microscopically compared to the victim and

to Mr. Ates. None of them were similar to Mr. Ates.

Q In a situation where a body is rolling

around on shag carpet, would you expect them to pick

up hair remnants and other fibers things like that?

A I would think that would be likely, yes.

Q Did you -- in the fingernail clippings from

the victim's hands, did you observe those? Were they

submitted to you?

A Yes, they were.

Q What did you find in those fingernail

clippings of any evidentiary value?

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Q All the blood found was consistent with the

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A Yes.

Q In terms of blood groups or antigens and

things like that that you found, all consistent with

the victim?

A That's correct.

MR. DOBBS: May I approach the witness?

THE COURT: Yes.

Q (By Mr. Dobbs) In order for the jury to

understand some testimony from earlier today, let me

ask you to take a look at State's 97. Is that your

Exhibit No. 8?

A Yes, it is.

Q Now, there are some -- there are some

notations on here that this was in an FBI evidence

bag with FBI stickers. Do you recognize those

stickers? Do you know what kind of stickers they

are?

A Yes, they're evidence tape.

Q At the time that this would have been sent

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Q Do you see that this item has your initials

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Q As your Exhibit No. 8?

A Yes. And my laboratory case number.

Q Did you do anything to change or alter the

makeup of this item before you sent it to the FBI

lab?

A No. I just collected it and packaged it in

the baggy.

Q Did you perform any testing whatsoever on

what I'll mark as State's Exhibit 97?

A No, sir.

Q On this Q-2, would that be your writing or

would that be something that Mr. Reem from the FBI

would have written on that?

A That's not my writing.

MR. DOBBS: We would offer 97.

THE COURT: State's Exhibit 97 is

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MR. DOBBS: We'll pass the witness.

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Q Ms. Beasley, how are you doing?

A Just fine.

Q Ms. Beasley, there were several items

submitted to you on different days from the, I guess,

Sheriff's Department here in Smith County?

A Yes, sir.

Q I think on July the 27th of 1993, they

submitted a lot of the things that Mr. Dobbs just

went over : The comforter, sheets, things of that

nature?

A Yes, that's correct.

Q Okay. Now, items were also submitted on

August 27th of 1993?

A Yes, sir.

Q I guess that was when they pulled the pubic

hair and things of that nature from Mr. Ates, Edward

Ates in this case?

A Yes. They submitted blood, pubic hair,

head hair, and a semen sample.

Q And also you received the items on

September the 8th, 1993, and that was from Leonard

Moseley?

A Yes, sir.

Q What was that?

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1 A It was blood, pubic hair, and head hair.

Q Okay. And then you received items

3 submitted to you on September 13th of 1993.

4 A Yes, sir.

5 Q What was that?

6 A It was a pair of Nike tennis shoes from

7 Edward Ates and a Schrade pocket knife from the

8 highway near the scene.

9 Q All right. Now, when they submitted these

10 things to you on the 27th of July, 27th of August,

11 September 8th, and September 13th, they wanted you to

12 run tests on them to determine certain things, right?

13 A Yes, sir.

14 Q Okay. Now, the comforter, when we talk

15 about there was semen found on the comforter that

16 came out of the house or trailer house of Elnora

17 Griffin, were you able to match that up to Leonard

18 Moseley?

19 A He was included as a possible source of

20 that stain based on the fact that I found blood group

21 substance B, and he is an ABO blood type B.

22 Q I think . Mr. Dobbs this on direct

23 examination. You can't tell how long that semen had

24 been on that comforter?

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there on or about July 22nd of 1993, or before that

date?

A That's correct.

Q Also, he talked to you about some cigarette

butts, that they were found in the victim's home,

also. Were you able to connect thQse cigarette butts

to the victim so that she smoked those cigarettes?

A I was able to determine that blood group

substance H was present, and she being a blood group

O secreter, it was consistent with her blood type.

Q Now, you stated that you received some Nike

shoes or tennis shoes or sneakers on September 13th,

1993, from the Smith County Sheriff's Department.

Did they want you to run tests on those shoes to see

if there was any blood on them?

A Yes. They specifically asked that we look

for blood.

Q What was the result of that test?

A I tested several areas of the tennis shoes,

and it was negative for presumptive tests for the

presence of blood.

Q Also, I think on the same date of September

13th, 1993, they submitted a knife to you from the

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Did they ask you to do anything with that knife?

A Yes. They asked me to examine that also

for blood.

Q And what was the test result?

A It was also negative.

Q Let me ask you this: Mr. Dobbs posed a

situation to you or scenario to you: Can someone

clean a knife and wipe all the blood away. Is that

possible?

A Once again I'll state it depends to begin

with on how much blood is on the knife to begin with.

Q Now, these knives have got crevices and

things of that nature on it?

A Yes, they do.

Q In order for someone to do that, they would

probably take that knife apart and clean out the

crevices and things of that nature. Would you agree

with me?

A They might have to take it apart. Once

again, it's going to depend on how much blood was

there in the first place, if there was enough to run

down into crevices.

Q Now, the knife that they submitted to you

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2 appear to you that someone tried to clean that knife?

3 A If I could refer to my notes.

4 My notes indicated that I detected a sandy

5 material on the knife along with fibers in the

6 adhering in the grooves of the handle, and that the

7 blades appeared rusty .

8 Q It appeared to be dirty and rusty, things

9 of that nature?

10 A Basically, yes .

11 Q Now, from the evidence that was sent to you

12 on these four different dates involving pubic hair

13 and things from Leonard Moseley, the victim in this

14 case Elnora Griffin, and Edward Ates, what you

15 detected in your case when you did lab results was

16 that there was some semen that was consistent

17 belonging to Leonard Moseley on the comforter, and

18 there was hair and things in the house, things

19 belonging to the al l eged victim?

20 A There was semen on the comforter that was

21 consistent with Leonard Moseley's blood group being

22 B. There were fingernails. I did not attempt to

23 associate those with the victim at all, and there

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Q One other area I've got to cover here and

maybe you can help me out with this. Were there some

fingernail chip or chips of fingernail polish

submitted to your lab and when you received the

envelope or whatever from the Smith County Sheriff's

Department there was nothing in it?

A Yes, sir.

Q Did you ever find what happened to the

evidence or whatever was submitted to your lab

whatever happened to it?

A No.

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Honor.

THE COURT: Anything else?

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Q Do you know how large that item was?

A No. It was reported to be very small.

Other than that, I don't know any dimensions.

Q Did you know how large Ms. Griffin was?

A No, I did not.

Q I believe the testimony has been

four-foot-four, 104 pounds. This is a picture of her

buttocks area. Do you see the item I'm pointing to?

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Q If that were the piece we would be talking

about, can you imagine a situation where that would

disappear somehow?

A I would think it would be possible if the

envelope was not sealed completely that it might have

sifted out.

Q Does that appear to you to be a piece of

dried fingernail polish , a small piece of fingernail

polish?

A I really can't say.

Q It's hard to say looking at the picture?

A Yes, sir .

Q Does it look like a torn piece of

somebody's fingernail or anything like that?

A Once again, I really can't say that it

looks like that, no.

Q One last line of questioning, and we'll let

you go back to Dallas or Garland . Mr. Roberson has

been asking you about this semen stain on the

comforter that didn't respond to PGM markers. I

believe the question he asked you was did it match

Leonard Moseley .

Can anybody who has B blood who is a

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2 Q How many people in the United States have B

3 blood and be a secretor? Do you have any idea?

4 A Just a second and I can --

5 Q Are you looking the answer up?

6 A Yes. If you don't mind.

7 Q You can really answer that question?

8 A Yes, I can, if you if you'd like me to.

9 Q You don't have to look that up.

10 Are there a whole bunch of them?

11 A It's a significant percentage of the

12 population, yes.

13 Q I guess the point I'm making is that's the

14 extent of the match you can make to Leonard Moseley.

15 If he has B blood, we don't even know if he's a

16 secretor or not; that's something that adds up with

17 someone with B blood who is a secretor?

18 A That's correct.

19 Q If it is Leonard Moseley and he is the

20 former romantic partner of Ms. Griffin and it's on

21 her comforter, you can't say when it was left, true?

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That's correct.

And it could have been left years ago?

Possibly, yes.

It could have been left months ago?

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Q (By Mr. Dobbs) Months before it's found,

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MR. DOBBS: That's all we have.

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MR . ROBERSON: Judge, I don't want to

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Q Bu t if the evidence was submitted to you

that he was supposed to be coming over there on the

night that the deceased victim was killed, there's a

possibility it could have been left over there on

July 23rd, too, isn't it, of '93?

A It's possible, yes.

Q It's possible it could have been left on

any number of days or dates?

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MR. ROBERSON: Pass the witness, Your

Honor.

THE COURT: Anything else?

MR. DOBBS : One question.

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