Archive Session 168

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ukedchat Archive 12thSeptember 2013 Hosted by@gceyre

Imparting knowledge - What wayscan we get students to learn

factual knowledge?

20:00 @ukedchatIt’s 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @gceyre – ‘What wayscan we get students to learn factual knowledge?’

20:00:10 @gceyre Welcome to #ukedchat !

20:00:24 @s_armitage

Blog post: On a virtual journey with my class and #iPad.

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20:00:29 @gceyreWelcome to tonight's chat, please remember to use thehash tag #ukedchat

20:00:40 @StephenPerse

“@s_holyoake: @SPFSchoolspic.twitter.com/NmTYXwACBh” Fun in Pre-prep#ukedchat

20:01:08 @gceyre

To start with lets keep it broad; how can we get student to

learn factual knowledge? #ukedchat

20:01:46 @urban_teacher

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20:02:40 @nicoladarling78

Trying to find apps to help with number recognition andformation? Are there any people could recommend?#ukedchat

20:03:31 @davidhunter Isn't it ATTENTION + EXPERIENCE = MEMORY or something as simple as that? #ukedchat

20:04:15 @ICTmagic@gceyre Interesting topic. Will be fascinating to know howpeople approach this. #ukedchat

20:04:28 @gceyrePersonally I find it very difficult to teach factual knowledgewithout lecturing, particularly at post-16 #ukedchat

20:04:36 @with_ict #ukedchat factual knowledge such as?20:04:44 @bapED10 #ukedchat chunk it and make it relatable to them and life

20:04:47 @ICTmagic@gceyre Do you have examples of the sort of facts that

need to be learnt? #ukedchat20:04:54 @mrw608 Use mind maps and other visual thinking tools #ukedchat

20:05:12 @rlj1981Factual knowledge is the easy bit. It's the higher order skills that are tricky #ukedchat

20:05:17 @gceyre@davidhunter but how do you give students thatexperience? #ukedchat

20:05:27 @nahowie

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20:05:27 @ICTmagic @bapED10 Is it possible to do that with all knowledge?#ukedchat

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20:05:32 @gceyre@rlj1981 but how do you deliver the factual in a way thatpupils are able to regurgitate it in exams? #ukedchat

20:05:45 @bapED10#ukedchat constant struggle in geog with case studiesgetting the facts across in an engaging method

20:06 @gceyre@with_ict remembering definitions, facts and figuresrequired to be used in exams, case study information...#ukedchat

20:06:10 @MrDooleyUK

Gamification. I learnt everything through the original SidMeiers' Civilisation game. Loads of literature to support itas well. #ukedchat

20:06:12 @gillski22#ukedchat think, pair, share first to see what they alreadyknow!

20:06:22 @davidhunter

@gceyre does it matter? If they give you attention?

#ukedchat

20:06:27 @nightzookeeper

@gceyre @rlj1981 One of the ways to ensure ch aresuccessful with exams is getting them to practice examquestions #ukedchat

20:06:37 @Kezmerrelda#ukedchat with younger children songs and chants or turning it into a story.


@gceyre @rlj1981 therefore they do not have to thinkabout format and can solely focus on regurgitating thefacts... #ukedchat

20:07:45 @gceyre Currently on phone ... Will be home in 5 minutes ... Gotheld up at work. Will then be engaged properly! #ukedchat


@gceyre I like the theory of episodic memory. That seemsto stand true for memories from my school alth notnecessarily academic #ukedchat

20:08:01 @WhiteDebs #ukedchat and follow that with 'claim, support, challenge.'

20:08:22 @CaptainGoveWhat are we talking about tonight? My ears are burning.#Ukedchat

20:08:32 @bapED10#ukedchat getting students to use the facts in a debate

works as they have to justify points with e.g's

20:08:36 @ukedchat

We shared this post on the #UKEdchat forum, via@JohnKapeleris "The Difference Between Knowledgeand Wisdom" http://johnkapeleris.com/blog/?p=1752

20:08:44 @with_ict#ukedchat teach to test is next to pointless but a necessitynonetheless.

20:08:51 @ICTmagic@rlj1981 @gceyre How does one avoid fact fatigue?#ukedchat

20:08:56 @gceyre“@bapED10: #ukedchat chunk it and make it relatable to

them and life” - I think these are both really important20:08:59 @ukedchat Introduce your staff to Twitter & the ideas of a PLN with

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this staffroom guide to #UKedchathttp://ukedchat.com/how-to/pic.twitter.com/6hQVTNDA7M

20:09:20 @ukedchat

#UKEdchat Includes this Knowledge Hierarchy in a

pyramid format http://johnkapeleris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Knowledge-Hierarchy-1.jpg …

20:09:26 @mrw608

@gceyre @rlj1981 visual tools eg mind maps do both -help with recall and show links between ideas buildingthinking #ukedchat

20:09:40 @School_LN Advertise factual learning through the use of displays#ukedchat

20:09:48 @gceyre@davidhunter so then the issue is engagement? - reallyagree! #ukedchat

20:09:58 @mrandmrsteach Consistent application of facts/knowledge over a period of time. E.g routine exam practice #ukedchat

20:10:04 @davidhunter I'm interested in spelling on this subject. Any greatmethods? #ukedchat

20:10:07 @excitecuriosity

#ukedchat get learners to create first and the rest willcome... eg use something like #puppetpals or @explainevrythng to present findings


@ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre Asking children to getinvolved in a creative task surrounding a series of facts

can be powerful #ukedchat

20:10:23 @rlj1981

@ICTmagic @gceyre by linking it to the real world, tomaking it relevant to each child. Facts are magic waitingto be discovered #ukedchat

20:11:01 @MrHistoireFacts? Sometimes I just tell them. 'This is really important,so listen up ...' #ukedchat

20:11:39 @mrandmrsteachThinking maps can help to gather/record students' factualunderstanding #ukedchat

20:11:41 @mrlockyer Butterfly ideas in education - love this! #ukedchat

http://www.theguardian.com/p/3te8p/tw20:11:46 @with_ict

@davidhunter #ukedchat sing sing sing!!! Works reallyreally well

20:11:49 @gceyre Am now at home so can properly follow and lead thediscussion. #ukedchat

20:11:57 @davidlettington

@rlj1981 I'm not sure that's true; once u have a skill it'sless likely you'll forget how to do it, but facts r easilyforgotten. #ukedchat


@ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre e.g. creating a stop

motion animation on the water cycle. They learn newskills, creative & facts #ukedchat

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20:12:23 @bapED10#ukedchat peer teaching is always a good one as weknow prepping for a lesson is good learning

20:12:35 @tmeekySharing is good but there's the issue of QA to consider #ukedchat

20:12:54 @davidhunter #ukedchat what helps you to learn facts? Are chn's brainsreally so different from ours?

20:13:04 @Kezmerrelda

#ukedchat being able to visual stuff or make links helps &putting facts even number related stuff into stories andsongs works - in primary


#ukedchat content creation tech being used to engageand encourage learning from early years to professionalsin industry

20:13:09 @MrHistoire Study, test, test, test ... #ukedchat

20:13:12 @gceyreSome key ideas so far in the discussion seem to beengagement, chunking, link to display, and consistentapplication. #ukedchat

20:13:16 @davidhunter @with_ict singing spellings. That's interesting. #ukedchat

20:13:23 @Primary_Ed

Student Retention: Where do you focus most of your timewith your class?https://twitter.com/primary_ed/status/374170653890740224 … #ukedchat #edchat #edtech

20:13:25 @ICTmagic

@davidhunter Spelling is a tricky pne to avoid just

learning words and and rules by rote. Love to hear suggestions too. #ukedchat

20:13:52 @WhiteDebs@excitecuriosity @explainevrythng #ukedchat iPads canlead to great engagement -

20:13:54 @davidhunter @WhiteDebs not sure what that is. I'm sure I'll find out if Ilook it up #ukedchat

20:14:03 @nightzookeeper Mind maps and drawing a picture of your thoughts can begreat ways of visualising and retaining facts #ukedchat

20:14:13 @s_armitage

Looking to learn about practical experiences in classroom

with #googlehangout. Do get in touch. #UKedchat#mlearning http://bit.ly/17QpbJE

20:14:48 @tmeekyRT @ICTmagic: @davidhunter Spelling is a tricky pne ..so are typos :) #ukedchat

20:14:53 @mberryWikipedia and Google are quite good at rememberingfacts for me. #ukedchat

20:14:55 @mrandmrsteach

Mr Teach learned most of his geographical knowledgefrom playing Football Manager. Make it relevant tostudents #UKedchat

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20:15:02 @davidhunter @ICTmagic do @tesPrimary still do the spellingbee? Ilove a bit of competition #ukedchat

20:15:39 @gceyreLooking at the discussion. A sub set of factual knowledgeis spellings. What suggestions do you have for teachingspellings. #ukedchat


@davidhunter @with_ict or cheerleader chants like giveme a h, give me an e, give me an l, give me a p, whathave we got "help!" #ukedchat

20:16 @MrHistoire

Repeat the key ideas as a whole class ... In a funnyvoice ... Often .... Get them to repeat that answer todifferent questions #ukedchat

20:16:23 @rlj1981 @nightzookeeper @ICTmagic @gceyre agreed with bellson. Make their learning memorable. #ukedchat

20:16:25 @nahowie'Money' to be taught in schools - with lessons on statespending via @Telegraph http://fw.to/ufwfKTO #ukedchat

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20:16:35 @ukedchatRT @MrHistoire: @nightzookeeper model maps are mycurrent fave #ukedchat

20:16:55 @ICT_MrP

Be flexible and always be willing to go off plan with whatthe children are interested in -http://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/starting-our-blogging-with-bang.html … #ukedchat


#ukedchat “While we teach, we learn.” Seneca, RomanPhilosopher, d. 65AD. Learn, create and present to peers.Works for all ages!

20:17:27 @edaptukGuidance for teachers during industrial actionhttp://edapt.co/12U0fjG #ukedchat

20:17:48 @GeorgeEBlack

Have you tried Learning Events Generator?http://www.newtools.org/showtxt.php?docid=724 … livensup theory learning, eg. Postmodern theory as a jazz song!#ukedchat

20:17:48 @davidhunter @Kezmerrelda @with_ict maybe some military chants?#ukedchat

20:17:51 @gceyre

@nightzookeeper suggests mind maps. does any onehave any favorite techniques to teaching mind mapping?#ukedchat

20:17:57 @WhiteDebs @davidhunter #ukedchat 'think-a-link' top example - 'Don'tflood the loo' to get the oo instead of u

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20:18:15 @ICTmagic

A dose of curiosity, a sense of awe & being allowed todirect their own learning with questions helps childrenretain facts. #ukedchat


@gceyre I try to keep spellings in groups that relate. Then

ask ch to complete a task to include them all. Enhancesunderstanding #ukedchat

20:18:53 @MrHistoire Ask different questions of the same info #ukedchat


#ukedchat I always remember 2spell necessary byremembering 1 collar (c) & 2 sleeves (s) but can't hav stuff like that all words! #ukedchat

20:19:44 @MrGsBrain

@gceyre Would love to see some suggestions to this one,too. Spelling tests: everyone doing them? Relevant?Necessary? #ukedchat

20:20:12 @xmanpsx“Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps youmake a living; the other helps you make a life.” – SandraCarey #UKEdchat

20:20:23 @excitecuriosity@WhiteDebs @explainevrythng Absolutely! In anamazing, uncluttered by the tech, way #ukedchat

20:20:32 @davidhunter @WhiteDebs I see what you mean. We look at plenty of mnemonics and the like #ukedchat

20:20:46 @mberry

@gceyre True enough. But it seems to work out OK for much of the rest of life / work. #purpos/ed = pass exams?

#ukedchat

20:20:55 @mejpark

During first year of CertEd we learned that colour-codingactivities and resources can help learners retain facts.#ukedchat

20:21 @with_ict@Kezmerrelda ha ha I do "in winter is necessary to wear a coat and 2 socks" #ukedchat

20:21:06 @mrlockyer @WhiteDebs @davidhunter See also things from@sirlinkalot #ukedchat

20:21:12 @travelgeordie

Factual knowledge only matters if its important to the

students. They need to be able to discern the rightknowledge. #ukedchat

20:21:25 @MrHistoire Use #SOLOtaxonomy! #ukedchat

20:21:31 @davidlettington

@rlj1981 I'm not saying skills are unimportant, just thatlearning facts is not easy unless you have a specific typeof memory. #ukedchat

20:21:36 @gceyre

There seems to be a real gap between 'real life' and whatis required to learn facts to pass exams. Exams fit for purpose? #ukedchat

20:21:44 @traceyab1 @nightzookeeper @gceyre we are trying out peer coaching with our yr2's this year for things like spellings

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and maths facts #ukedchat

20:21:51 @i2iPartnership

9 minute edit of an AS film studies lesson by@Debbie2965 #UKEdchathttp://www.i2ipartnership.co.uk/29/news/article/14/mrs-

coads-as-film-studies-lesson#.UjIT5gnp84A.twitter …

20:22:02 @tstarkey1212@gceyre Not everything learnt should be for utilitarianmeans #ukedchat


@with_ict @davidhunter stories which create visuals andlinks in your mind! We have actions for punctuation too,dif one 4each type #ukedchat


@MrGsBrain @gceyre not sure you need to test.Encourage a love of reading and creative writingexercises can be better #ukedchat

20:22:30 @SPFLearningThink-a-link with spelling: MT @WhiteDebs:@davidhunter #ukedchat 'Don't flood the loo' to get the ooinstead of u

20:22:32 @gceyre

@traceyab1 suggests peer coaching for primary spellingsand maths facts.. has anyone used that in secondary?#ukedchat

20:22:41 @davidlettington@gceyre Well written exams don't just test facts, they testskills too. #ukedchat

20:22:50 @traceyab1

@gceyre @nightzookeeper mind mapping is one of the

skills we introduce in our learning to learn weeks in yr2.Start by modelling #ukedchat


@davidlettington @rlj1981 agreed, I don't retain facts thatwell, but I have search engines and the internet at myfinger tips :-) #ukedchat

20:23:24 @bekblayton

I've some ideas/info for spellings activities here... Wouldlove to hear of any other resources! #ukedchathttp://www.digitalclassrooms.co.uk/?p=485

20:23:25 @mrlockyer

#ukedchat Some facts are simply lovely to learn, others

necessary for exams. LEGO=Play Well. Useless fact, butcharming!


So we are talking about gimmicks to get attentionultimately. Not a criticism as I have plenty up my sleeve#ukedchat


#pbl is great because students need to find the facts for the purpose of their final product. Facilitation is key notteaching #ukedchat

20:23:38 @MrGsBrain

@mberry @gceyre Lots of fluffy #ukedchat ideas, but are

we being really honest? My Day-to-day factual learningsimply cannot use all this!

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20:24:44 @gceyre@tstarkey1212 I totally agree #ukedchat It is the balancebetween that and the 'system'

20:24:46 @magicalmaths

Is Islam A Peaceful Religion? Shocking! Mehdi HasanOxford Union - #pgce #ukedchat #edchat

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20:24:53 @magicalmathsHow do I set homework for my pupils? - #pgce #ukedchat#edchat http://tinyurl.com/9alyu99


@davidlettington @gceyre not always easy to mark basedon skills though as they are a lot more ambiguous#ukedchat

20:25:06 @davidlettington@nightzookeeper @rlj1981 ...but not during an exam Ihope! #ukedchat


@nightzookeeper @davidlettington @rlj1981 good point...

How important is fact retention these days #ukedchat

20:25:36 @WhiteDebs@traceyab1 #ukedchat I'd be interested to know how thatgoes

20:26:10@SparkyTeaching

Seems 'The Importance of Mr Gove' is relevant totonight's #ukedchat. re. teacher-talk and retaining facts...>> http://www.sparkyteaching.com/creative/the-importance-of-mr-gove/ …


#ukedchat also making something, a box, a sculpture,something different they will remember and convert the

dry 'knowledge' into a memory.

20:26:20 @gceyre

We are now getting towards the half way mark. Whatspecific techiques do you have for teaching key words tostudents? #ukedchat

20:26:25 @nightzookeeper @mrlockyer another fact for you: Otters hold hands whenthey float so that don't get separated #ukedchat @gceyre

20:26:28 @with_ict

@bekblayton @nightzookeeper @davidlettington@rlj1981 not very! locate info from reliable source is whtwill b needed as adult #ukedchat

20:26:34 @mreddaviesPupils need core knowledge and the ability to searchgoogle effectively. A competitive quiz suits boys I havefound as incentive #UKEdchat

20:26:43@EducatedTeacher

If your school club is over subscribed and not sport/artrelated, does it mean it's popular because you are runningit? #ukedchat #edchat


@davidlettington @rlj1981 haha, well why not? Youwouldn't take devices off people at any other time in their life... #ukedchat

20:27:22 @gceyre @GeorgeEBlack I really agree with that ... but when youhave to cover an exam syllabus in a year it difficult to do

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for all. #ukedchat


Passing tests doesn’t begin to compare w searching&enquiring &pursuing topics that engage us & excite us#ukedchat http://ow.ly/22LkKd

20:27:45 @davidhunter http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_learning …#ukedchat this is a very interesting technique I have usedfor times tables

20:28:02 @excitecuriosity @ICTmagic ditto that one! #ukedchat✨

20:28:41 @raff31@magicalmaths We did this last year @magicalmaths Wedid this last year #ukedchat

20:29:01 @mrandmrsteachFor key words try using anagrams. Unscramble and writea definition. Then find an example #UKedchat

20:29:11 @traceyab1

@WhiteDebs Did mini trial last year which worked well so

making it a regular twice weekly event. Short bursts or learning #ukedchat


@davidlettington @rlj1981 sometimes we test on topicsand in methods that are so far detached from future lifeexperiences... #ukedchat

20:30:11 @HoDTeacher

Learning facts in Maths …http://theviewfromthemathsbunker.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/sticky-maths/ … #stickymaths #ukedchat

20:30:24 @gillbudgell

Lovely useless fact: Otters hold hands when they float so

that don't get separated #ukedchat @gceyre@nightzookeeper #cute

20:30:37 @StephenPerse

The true value of friendship in a digital age | stephenperse foundation #ukedchathttps://stephenperse.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/the-true-value-of-friendship-in-a-digital-age/#comments …


Also need to help students learn how they best remember facts, study skills and memory aides etc. everyone isdifferent! #ukedchat

20:30:56 @mreddavies Key word bingo. Read the definition. If they have the keyword they cross it off. Easy starter. #UKEdchat

20:31:18 @mberry

@nightzookeeper is suspect the time spent:facts learntratio is /quite/ high for that. @ICTmagic @rlj1981@gceyre #ukedchat

20:31:22 @gceyre

A usefull way to help with fact retention is Da Vincimoments - going back to previously covered informationfor 10 min in the #ukedchat

20:31:28 @MrGsBrain@davidhunter exactly. . . Let's be real. All a bit fluffy for

me.....What works for MOST?? #ukedchat20:31:38 @gceyre of a lesson. #ukedchat

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20:32:03 @tmeeky

Problem is education (tools, resources, policy) is alwaysso far behind real world, never going to be able to teachfor the future #ukedchat

20:32:08 @WhiteDebs @davidhunter #ukedchat did it work?

20:32:22 @Mat6453 Literacy wall ideas updated http://shar.es/ieTcg#ukedchat #literacyinpe

20:32:49 @Mat6453Numeracy in Sport through fitness sessionshttp://shar.es/ieTeS #numeracyinpe #ukedchat

20:33:42 @MrHistoireKey words - repetition and immediate use in variouscontexts #ukedchat

20:34:09 @sarahjg1703 Do sent home spellings actually work #ukedchat


@gceyre true! #ukedchat but give them only a lesson, putthe pressure on, tell them it's the only time they will get on

the subject...

20:34:41 @gceyre@sarahjg1703 I think it depends on if the students havesupport at home or not. #ukedchat

20:34:47 @nightzookeeper @mberry @ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre yeah I guess,but it depends where the priorities are... #ukedchat


Alfred Hitchcock on "facts". #ukedchat >>pic.twitter.com/CcqByBu1AM

20:35:26 @tmeeky

Force kids to learn anything, and it'll be resented. Foster alove of learning and job done; learners will then learn

wot's needed #ukedchat20:35:36 @Brightonteacher #ukedchat drawing symbols and playing taboo


Abraham Lincoln on "facts". #ukedchat >>pic.twitter.com/3fNerpcDrd


@sarahjg1703 it's tough isn't it.. I find parents like it! Outof context though spellings can be a little pointless..#ukedchat


@MrGsBrain or provide a range of strategies that engage.It seems to me that memories are created when routines

are disrupted #ukedchat

20:38:26 @ukedchatRT @ICE2911: @gceyre #ukedchat teach the rules, not just a list one day and test end of week! In fact don't test!

20:38:33 @mberry

@bekblayton learning new things involves makingconnections with old things: the more you know, the moreyou can learn. #ukedchat

20:38:54 @ICE2911@gceyre #ukedchat teach the rules, not just a list one dayand test end of week! In fact don't test!

20:39:18@SparkyTeachin

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Elvis Presley on "facts" #ukedchat >>

pic.twitter.com/D7as9jhXhU20:39:26 @tmeeky RT @ICE2911: @gceyre #ukedchat teach the rules, not

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just a list one day and test end of week! In fact don't test!>too much testing goes on


Finally, Steve McQueen on "facts". #ukedchat >>pic.twitter.com/dW0Eza7aTK

20:40:29 @traceyab1@sarahjg1703 not in my experience. Could spell in end of wk test but not transferred into writing Waste of timeStopped! #ukedchat

20:40:30 @MrHistoire @ukedchat @ICE2911 @gceyre don't test? #ukedchat

20:40:34 @SalGrylls#ukedchat the more they read.....the more everythingimproves.

20:40:41 @ICT_MrP

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20:40:58 @Acklam_RS@mreddavies We use this at GCSE with sweetie prizesas an added incentive. Works well and kids get very'involved'. #UKedchat

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20:41:22 @WhiteDebs @traceyab1 @sarahjg1703 #ukedchat completely agree

20:41:26 @davidhunter @WhiteDebs it did for me and it did for Paul Kelley at

monkeaton #ukedchat

20:41:35 @excitecuriosity@GeorgeEBlack like the paper lantern story in teach likea pirate #ukedchat #tlap @burgessdave


@traceyab1 @gceyre cool, let me know how it goes.@EPPS_ICT used mentoring during NZK project lastyear, worked really well! #ukedchat

20:42:14 @tmeeky

I want my kids excited, keen + happy to go to school eachmorning. If they are, something right is happening. If not, Iintervene #ukedchat

20:42:20 @gceyreNumber one technique for delivering a large body of facts just to meet an external examination requirement?#ukedchat

20:42:24 @nightzookeeper @ukedchat @MrHistoire can you share anything onmodel maps? #ukedchat

20:42:29 @ukedchat

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u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 …20:43:35 @ICT_MrP Providing tasks where children have to create to share

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understanding always makes knowledge stick -http://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/making-new-knowledge-stick.html … #ukedchat


@gceyre repeat and reproduce in different ways. colour,

make connections and look at regularly - record and listento if needed! #ukedchat

20:44:58 @traceyab1

@WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 we give parents list of 1st100 HFW (and then nxt 200 when done) so they know lethelp chn in own way. #ukedchat

20:45:15 @nightzookeeper @ICT_MrP speaking my language Mr P! #ukedchat

20:45:19 @gceyreIn the last twenty minutes now. Do you agree with theprincipal of core knowledge? #ukedchat

20:45:54 @bapED10

#ukedchat no specific no1, plethora of ways to suit the

'fact' range of methods always best. Adapted to hats infront of you

20:46:27 @tmeeky

RT @gceyre: In the last twenty minutes now. Do youagree with the principal of core knowledge? #ukedchat> Iagree with core values (learnin)

20:46:28 @WhiteDebs

@ICT_MrP #ukedchat Agree - and collectively creatingtheir own mark schemes for papers, instead of sittingthem is great for revision

20:46:35 @gceyre

@traceyab1 @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 Do you find that

that helps parents or are some parents overwhelmed by100 at once? #ukedchat

20:46:43 @traceyab1@nightzookeeper @gceyre @EPPS_ICT will do!#ukedchat


mentioned it once, v. engaging - the Learning EventsGenerator...http://www.newtools.org/showtxt.php?docid=724 … you can get an adaptable one too!#ukedchat

20:47:32 @ICTmagic

@gceyre If everone knows the same core knowledge, is

that knowledge more or less valueable for an individual?#UKedchat

20:47:49 @ukedchatRT @bootleian: @gceyre #ukedchat Who's to say whatcore knowledge is? Unfortunately, it's political.

20:48:05 @Grevster73 @gceyre oops. #ukedchat yes I do! For some subjects.

20:48:12 @tmeeky

No-one actually understands Ed/Learning in its entirety,so let's have faith in ourselves (as a prof) that we are doinbest we can #ukedchat

20:48:32 @gceyre @Grevster73 What subjects? #ukedchat

20:48:35 @traceyab1 @gceyre @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 no probs in prevyrs - giving out next week after meeting with parents as

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part of help pack. #ukedchat

20:48:36 @gceyreSo what is one fact that every child should know by thetime they leave school? #ukedchat

20:48:48 @StudyMaths

100's of randomly generated, self marking worksheets for

revision http://studymaths.co.uk/workoutMenu.php?type=all#.UjIZuvWtOPs.twitter … #math #mathcpdchat#ukedchat

20:49:02 @tmeekyKids should go home and play outside, or just play andtalk with family, not do spelling homework #ukedchat

20:49:10 @with_ict#ukedchat no answer can be certain as even the term'core knowledge' is debatable.

20:49:20 @davidlettington @gceyre The way home. #ukedchat

20:49:43 @mberry

@bootleian @gceyre I wonder. I think there may be other

forces involved in practice. Not all top down. #ukedchat

20:50:05 @GeorgeEBlack@gceyre that they can work independently and achieve if they try... try that for core knowledge! #ukedchat

20:50:13 @traceyab1@gceyre @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 explain to workthro at own pace Some do some don't!! #ukedchat

20:50:47 @davie_marsh

@gceyre I like Venn diagrams to help classify lots of content and examples - social/ economic/ env/ political#ukedchat

20:51 @Mad_teach @gceyre how to find facts they WANT to know! #ukedchat

20:51:06 @Westylish @gceyre that they can't know it all #ukedchat


Students need a basis of knowledge to build upon after that it should be up to them facilitated by creative teachers#ukedchat

20:51:31 @davie_marsh@gceyre I recently got students to make their own Venndiagrams too #ukedchat

20:51:47 @Grevster73@ukedchat @bootleian @gceyre all education is political.It's not unfortunate, it's essential! #ukedchat

20:51:53 @ukedchatRT @JennyCameron: @gceyre #ukedchat Shakespeare

was in it for the money.

20:51:59 @mreddavies

I have had pupils who talk at length of development in acountry. Then fail to point to it on a map. So miss thewider pic. #ukedchat

20:52:19 @gceyre@travelgeordie What should be included in that basis?#ukedchat

20:52:37 @ukedchat

Before you run away, check out the poll for next week's#ukedchat at http://ukedchat.com/poll/ & join@dailydenouement on 19th Sept at 8pm.

20:52:49 @DanaABDUL @gceyre @ukedchat failure isn't something to be scaredof, but to learn from #ukedchat

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20:52:50 @nightzookeeper @JennyCameron @gceyre @ukedchat haha"Shakespeare was in it for the money." #ukedchat

20:53:48 @MrHistoire@gceyre I use COPRU for source analysis #ukedchat#historyteacher

20:54:11 @Grevster73@Grevster73: @bekblayton @gceyre I think there's adifference between a nat curric & core knowledge#ukedchat

20:54:38 @tmeeky

Teachers who are parents: stuff to do with your own kids,instead of the spelling homework they bring homehttp://bit.ly/11fB2L3 #ukedchat

20:54:51 @Jon_Torbitt

.@Anniegottago @ukedchat needs near-positivediscrimination to unleash potential. Make it challenging,attractive + high profile #ukedchat

20:54:53 @mrw608 @tmeeky #Ukedchat agree! there speaks a fellowparent :)

20:55:03 @fcbsd@gceyre it irrelevant once they have left school :~)#ukedchat


@gceyre #ukedchat depends on the project. Sometimes a#pbl approach requires students to be taught knowledgein a just in time approach.

20:55:18 @with_ict@DanaABDUL @gceyre #ukedchat FAIL= First AttemptIn Learning :)

20:55:27 @ukedchat#UKedchat is always on the look out for hosts for thecommunity's Thursday night sessions. If you areinterested, please get in touch.

20:55:42 @gceyreIn the last 8 minutes tonight. Favourite random fact?#ukedchat

20:56:06 @mikeatedji

@Grevster73 @bekblayton @gceyre Could you explainwhat the difference wd be between core knowledge andNat Curric? #ukedchat

20:56:12 @Grevster73@mikeatedji @bekblayton @gceyre probably not in 149

characters! #ukedchat20:56:27 @MrHistoire

@gceyre Teddy Roosevelt was the first and onlypresident to kill a cougar with a knife #ukedchat

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@passionateaboo

t

9 quotes about teaching that might actually make you

miss the classroom #ukedchat #edchathttp://www.takepart.com/photos/teaching-quotes-about-

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best/robert-frost …20:57:04 @MrHistoire @gceyre America was nearly called Freedonia #ukedchat

20:57:09 @ukedchat

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20:57:31 @mrlockyer @gceyre #ukedchat Cats can't follow a pointed finger

20:57:35 @with_ict@gceyre #ukedchat how many people will GOOGLE'interesting facts'!? Makes the point null n void really:)

20:57:38 @mikeatedjiThe little bump on the front side of your ear is called atragus #ukedchat

20:57:58 @ICT_MrP@WhiteDebs absolutely, mantle of the expert! Let thembecome teachers! #ukedchat

20:58 @gceyre @with_ict Should we allow Google in exams? Googling isa skill! #ukedchat


A student told me today that cancer has been cured andgave me some evidence to look at online. Might have tochallenge that ha #ukedchat

20:58:27 @ukedchat

Introduce your staff to Twitter & the ideas of a PLN withthis staffroom guide to #UKedchathttp://ukedchat.com/how-to/pic.twitter.com/6hQVTNDA7M

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20:59:27 @iDzzyFIX

Want to raise standards in education? No more newinitiatives or kneeJerk Reactions #ukedchat Listen to theteachers & researchers! #sltchat

20:59:36 @with_ict @gceyre I shall make it my life mission ha ha:) #ukedchat

20:59:55 @urban_teacher

My new tech display...work in progress! #ukedchat#edchat Encouraging more students to become creativeusing tech. pic.twitter.com/0g9JppO91m

21:00:02 @gceyreOne more minute for any final thoughts on FACTS#ukedchat

21:00:02 @[email protected] mission I shall start later though as#EducatingYorkshire is about to start:) #ukedchat

21:00:06@websofsubstance

Michelle Mackay @with_ict 31m

21:00:10 @ukedchat It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @gceyre for hosting tonight’s

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