Archive Session 159

7/28/2019 Archive Session 159

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UKedchat Archive 11th July2013 Hosted by@Debsgf

Private vs state schools: which sector hasmore to teach whom? Should there be more

collaboration between the two sectors?

21:00:02 @ukedchat

Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @Debsgf Private vsstate schools: which has more to teach whom? Shouldthere be more collaboration?

20:59:59 @DebsgfPlease remember to use the hashtag #UKedchat and

not the actual Twitter handle @ukedchat ta! Lets chat!

20:59:54 @danielharvey9

@Debsgf @GreenHamstring this all depends onspecifics. Tbh I've done some collaboration with aprivate school #UKedchat 1/2

20:59:39 @Jon_Torbitt

.@Debsgf I moved from a state to an indie school.Different and similar at same time. Regularly offer tocollaborate with st schls #ukedchat

20:59:01 @Educationchat

#ukedchat It's just wrong that money can determinewhich school you go to and what opportunities you are

therefore given.


@Debsgf @GreenHamstring and teachers very muchlike state school ones I would with. As I said depends oncontext and specific pro #UKedchat

20:58:36 @mrjonesICT

HELP! Moodle or Edmodo or Schoology? Which do youuse and why? Please RT! Thank you :) #edtech#ukedchat #edchat #ipaded

20:58:33 @EducationchatIn my opinion all private schools should be shut downand let's have true equality in this country. #ukedchat

20:58:24 @jillberry102#ukedchat So many teachers like me teach across bothsectors in their professional lives. It makes sense for thesectors to work together.

20:58:14 @Debsgf

@Jon_Torbitt what did you find were the biggestdifferences and are the two sectors really that different?#UKedchat

20:58:06 @Gwenelope

@Debsgf @ukedchat Well, apart from my recent visit toWellington College, I have not been to an Independentschool, am clueless! #UKedchat

20:57:58 @mrmortonkba Each sector tends to keep the other at arms length andhard to compare with different qualifications. Few reallyknow #ukedchat

20:57:48 @jillberry102#ukedchat And there is so much expertise in bothsectors - each has a great deal to learn from the other.

20:57:45 @DebsgfIs teaching and learning as dynamic in the privatesector? Does it have to be? #ukedchat

20:57:36 @GreenHamstring

#ukedchat - Currently planning a paired teachingprogramme with a private school. They will come andobserve and then we will team teach.

20:57:21 @Jon_Torbitt .@Educationchat why most/all pct schools offer

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scholarships and bursaries as registered charities.Grandparents often contribute #ukedchat


#ukedchat This gov'nt is banging on about closing thegap between rich & poor in schools. Abolishing paid

education is a great way to start.

20:56:55 @Debsgf@Jon_Torbitt were the days longer? Also facilities toomust have been of a better quality #UKedchat


#ukedchat But living in the real world, there should bemore collaboration - let state educated children useprivate facilities.

20:56:16 @Debsgf@Gwenelope do you think the environment makes itmore beneficial for learning? #UKedchat


.@mrjonesICT None of the above - Sharepoint 2013

does it all if you're willing to get it running. Is free withEDU licence! #ukedchat

20:55:55 @Jamesbayston

RT @Jamesbayston: @Educationchat if you closedindependent school who would pay for the additionalschool places required? #ukedchat

20:55:45 @fod3

#ukedchat I work at Wellington Academy and we arelinked with Wellington College...lots of links in place.Can't wait to establish my link.

20:55:33 @SENConsultancy#ukedchat If I wasn't sent to a private school I wouldn't

of made it uni & become a teacher


@Debsgf @GreenHamstring but hard for teachers toknow about what's great about a private school andtherefore what 2 collaborate #UKedchat

20:55:24 @Educationchat#ukedchat I went to state schools and met children of allcultures and religions - but very few 'rich kids'.

20:55:16 @Debsgf@SalopSkyBlue what's your experience, have youworked in both sectors? #UKedchat

20:55:01 @lefouquemuch ado about #nothing http://youtu.be/1OLz6uUuMp8

#ukedchat #gifted

20:55 @Gwenelope

#ukedchat Wouid someone state educated, non 'ivyleague' Uni, be able to get a job in an indie school?#curious

20:54:56 @mrmortonkba

Ideologically I resent the idea that you can pay a fee tohave better teachers and education. Not exclusively trueeither #ukedchat

20:54:50 @GreenHamstring

@Debsgf #ukedchat - The English Department we arehoping to work with admits to being pretty didactic intheir approach.

20:54:37 @jillberry102 @Educationchat #ukedchat Am betting you haven't

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taught in the independent sector yourself....

20:54:32 @Debsgf

@danielharvey9 @GreenHamstring do you think that amore open door policy would help this though?#UKedchat

20:54:31 @Educationchat@mrlockyer Teachers can teach in state schools andchildren can go to state schools. Mix them all up!#ukedchat

20:54:28 @Debsgf@GreenHamstring very traditional in terms of teachingstyle then? #UKedchat

20:54:20 @DrJohnLTaylor

Running an online partnership schools philosophy zonevle - going strong.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8304409.stm #ukedchat


.@Debsgf Biggest diff - class size. Sectorsoverwhelmingly similar. 95% staff QTS. ManyMEds/MAs. CPD/observations/PM mandatory#ukedchat

20:53:51 @ShaunRenton

@SENConsultancy do you feel state school wouldn'thave given you opp. To go to uni? Almost all teachersI've met went state #ukedchat

20:53:39 @Debsgf @ieshasmall why do you think this is so? #UKedchat

20:53:39 @Dandan7171

I would be interested to see how far primary children

could be taken in terms of potential. A comparison oflearning cultures #ukedchat

20:53:18 @SENConsultancy

@Educationchat Many private schools don't have greatfacilities. You're paying for the smaller classes.#ukedchat

20:53:18 @Jamesbayston@jillberry102 @Educationchat where would all thestudent get educated? #ukedchat

20:53:05 @Gwenelope

@Debsgf It has got to hasn't it?! It was just beautiful,whereas my dilapidated school is not! Must unaffected

motivation. #ukedchat

20:53 @Jon_Torbitt

.@Debsgf some are - we run a 6 day timetable 8:15 -4:50 with sports/enrichment in place of after schoolclubs as part of sch day #ukedchat

20:52:44 @DebsgfWe are discussing the similarities and differences instate and private education. #UKedchat

20:52:43 @jillberry102

@Gwenelope #ukedchat I went to a bog standard comp& taught in 4 state schools. Became an ind school head& appointed some excellent staff..

20:52:28 @danielharvey9@Debsgf @GreenHamstring again depends on schoolsmindset. I can find schools working on ideas I'm looking

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at easily already. 1/2 #UKedchat

20:52:07 @Debsgf@Jon_Torbitt do you work closely with other schools inyour local area? #UKedchat

20:52:05 @Mat6453 Next steps http://wp.me/p3a7br-ck via #ukedchat

20:52 @Jon_Torbitt.@Educationchat @mrlockyer some of us alreadytaught in state schools that are more exclusive thansome independents! #ukedchat #houseprices

20:51:36 @PaulDSharpe

Are there 3 different comparisons to be made when itcomes to state schools, academies and privateschools? Or state/acc as one? #ukedchat

20:51:35 @jillberry102@Gwenelope #ukedchat ...from just this kind ofbackground.

20:51:14 @Dandan7171

Govt ought to consider some disadvantaged pupils into

private boarding school, in some cases it would savesociety a fortune! #ukedchat

20:51:10 @theICTadvisor@Educationchat what's your definition of 'rich kids'? Doyou not believe that every child matter? #ukedchat

20:51:09 @DebsgfDoes your school link across sectors? Is it successful?#ukedchat

20:51:05 @JamesJMatthewsCollaboration between state and private to ensure bestpractice and equal opportunity for all #ukedchat


.@Debsgf we're part of a group of independents and I

work with @CompAtSch to improve subject specialismacross ALL schools in area #ukedchat

20:50:46 @Debsgf@GreenHamstring did you find a lot of common groundthen? Sounds very interesting! #UKedchat


@Educationchat #ukedchat So many pupils in indschools aren't from rich families - one of the mostcommon misconceptions about the sector.

20:50:37 @developingTandLWho knows what YBWATO stands for? #ukedchat#edchat

20:50:15 @Debsgf @Jon_Torbitt @CompAtSch sounds interesting? Is thisa new enterprise? #UKedchat

20:50:13 @SENConsultancy

@ShaunRenton I'm serverly dyslexic. I was 1 of 9pupils. Loads of extra help. Would of got lost in a classof 30 #ukedchat


@mrmortonkba: Each tends to keep other at armslength. Hard to compare with different qualifications.Few really know #ukedchat Disagree!!

20:49:48 @cherrylkd

@Gwenelope @Debsgf @ukedchat Me too. I know they

have longer hols and fewer children in class. Thereendeth my knowledge #ukedchat

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20:49:44 @HoDTeacher

You can get away with 'traditional teaching' in ind school(not always a bad thing), but risky strategies also likelyto work #UKedchat

20:49:34 @srcav

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@danielharvey9 @Debsgf @GreenHamstring IronicallyI suppose schools need to collaborate & get to knoweach other to find this out! #ukedchat

20:49:04 @Jon_Torbitt@Educationchat why not abolish paid parking andhealth care while you're at it!?!??! #naive #ukedchat

20:48:47 @Debsgf

MT @ieshasmall: diff types of pupils & behaviour. Sametrue in selective state schools. Not to say it can't be

innovative though. #UKedchat20:48:30 @magicalmaths

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20:48:09 @magicalmaths

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20:47:53 @ShaunRenton

@SENConsultancy I have a child leaving for ind. schoolfor a similar reason. Can't compete with the ratios#ukedchat

20:47:45 @MissBex_MMy friend & colleague has just moved from state toprivate. He says different demands but better workingenvironment #ukedchat

20:47:42 @Gwenelope@jillberry102 Ahhhhh, interesting! Wondered if movingfrom state to indie even doable if a 'prole'. :-) #ukedchat

20:47:22 @HoDTeacher Huge difference is parental dynamic #ukedchat

20:46:42 @cherrylkd@SENConsultancy #ukedchat Why? Many teacherswent to state schools including me.


.@cherrylkd @gwenelope @debsgf some of us also

have 6 day weeks and longer days - total days taught isroughly equal #ukedchat

20:46:12 @Debsgf

It seems there is very little understanding in generalabout state and private education #UKedchat Why isthat?

20:46:09 @Bio_Joe@Debsgf I often heard the phase well weve paid twicefor education if you think about our taxes #UKedchat

20:45:55 @Ebl_association

It would be ridiculous to ignore advantages ofcollaboration between state and private.Sometimeshistoric bias pollutes potential #ukedchat

20:45:52 @sarah_extence #ukedchat share and share alike skills are transferable

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everyone has something to offer collaboration isessential in developing equal ed


@Debsgf Some is and some isn't! Both ind and stateschools in my experience have the full range of teaching

expertise/talent. #ukedchat

20:45:19 @JamesJMatthewsWhat if the cure for cancer is trapped inside the brain ofsomeone who can't afford an education? #UKedchat


@Debsgf I think, as someone mentioned before, bothkeep themselves at arms length for reasons unknown.#ukedchat

20:44:58 @Debsgf

@taralatkinson leads an an amazing Classics dept in astate school. Should subjects like that be studied instate schools? #ukedchat

20:44:55 @HeyMissSmithI find it insulting that schools with enormous resources/facilities & a very low pupil/ teacher ratio are held up asa model #ukedchat


@mrmortonkba #ukedchat That may have been thecase a few years ago but there is a huge amount ofpartnership/collaboration happening now.

20:44:19 @JJ_brumAny teachers out there? hit on #UKedchat and debatewith my great pal @Debsgf

20:44:05 @Gwenelope

@cherrylkd @Debsgf @ukedchat But I'd love to know

more. I think they're all like Hogwarts. #indieschools#ukedchat

20:43:53 @Debsgf@Jon_Torbitt @ieshasmall but surely parental supportmust be a factor too? #UKedchat

20:43:50 @ThompRichard

@Debsgf I worry that schools are being encouraged tocompete, which discourages cross-sector (even cross-school?) collaboration. #ukedchat

20:43:48 @HeyMissSmithWhat are we supposed to learn? Lots of money resultsin high standards? #thinkIknewthat #UKedchat

20:43:48 @Jon_Torbitt .@Debsgf simple answer - entrenched beliefs, lack ofexposure and lack of willingness to explore othersectors #ukedchat ignorance not bliss

20:43:36 @SENConsultancy@cherrylkd Most did. I've not met many privatelyeducated teachers in the state sector #ukedchat

20:43:20 @mrlockyer

@Gwenelope Not all like Hogwarts, just as all stateschools are like Grange Hill! #fartooyoungtoremember#ukedchat

20:43:01 @Coding2Learn

@ThompRichard @Debsgf This worries me also. OpenEducation fails when schools are competing - State orPrivate. #ukedchat

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20:42:46 @ThompRichard@HoDTeacher that is increasingly true in public sectortoo though, I feel. #ukedchat

20:42:46 @cherrylkd

@HeyMissSmith Schools I hold in high esteem are onesin disadvantaged areas who turn ch around & close gap.

Give them a future. #UKedchat

20:42:41 @Debsgf

@Jon_Torbitt very interesting point. It seems that onceyou stick to a sector that's the one you stay in.#ukedchat


.@JamesJMatthews then their teacher regardless ofwhere they are is supposed to HELP unlock it. Thestudent must want to learn #ukedchat


@ThompRichard @Debsgf #ukedchat But ind schoolsare in competition with each other & still co-

operate/collaborate. Emphasis on partnership.20:42:05 @Jon_Torbitt

.@HoDTeacher a parents is dealt with as a parentregardless of sector #ukedchat #misconception

20:41:59 @Debsgf

@JamesJMatthews @jillberry102 @danielharvey9@GreenHamstring it's surprised me little actualcollaboration there appears to be. #UKedchat

20:41:58 @sarah_extence

#ukedchat private ed tends to come with a network ofcontacts that support pupils in acquiringwork/experience in desired field.

20:41:29 @Jon_Torbitt .@Debsgf @ieshasmall if a parent wants to get involvedthey will. The school is largely irrelevant #ukedchat

20:41:16 @CaldiesEnglish

Think we need to start at the end. Why are so many topjobs given to private school candidates? Can we learnanything from them? #UKedchat

20:41:14 @cherrylkd

@Jon_Torbitt @Gwenelope @Debsgf I'm not criticisingat all. I agree many work Saturdays too. #UKedchat Allschools hard in different ways

20:41:13 @Debsgf

Do you think there should be a forced or a paired up

mentality between state and private schools. In order tobreak down barriers? #UKedchat


@HeyMissSmith #ukedchat I don't think they should beheld up as a model either, but not all do have enormousresources/facilities.

20:40:42 @Gwenelope@mrlockyer I know neither is 'true' but that illustrates mylack of knowledge about them beautifully! #ukedchat


.@Debsgf yep - entrenchment of views is a seriousconcern. It colours views, creates misconceptions andinfluences decision making #ukedchat

20:40:19 @sarah_extence #ukedchat parental support can be just as limited in

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private depending on boarding or not! Emotional andattachment disorders can be high


@jillberry102 @debsgf fair point, but the need for acompetitive edge must have at least some impact on

willingness to collaborate #ukedchat

20:40:11 @Debsgf

I know that private schools have staff working on aSaturday, does this work? Would this work in stateschools? #UKedchat


@HoDTeacher #ukedchat Not sure I'd agree, John. Thefundamental difference is that the vast majority ofparents are engaged/on-side.

20:39:49 @HoDTeacher Very hard to move from Ind to State #ukedchat

20:39:41 @CaldiesEnglish@HeyMissSmith Is it that simple? Surely 'high

expectations' are free? #UKedchat


.@HoDTeacher @debsgf @ieshasmall my pupils'parents no different compared to previous (state) sch.Both expected me to work hard #ukedchat

20:39:10 @taralatkinson

@debsgf #ukedchat *Should*? State school pupils haveas much right to access Classics as private. They enjoy& achieve as much, too.

20:38:59 @teechit

#ukedchat we do a bit of work with local private school.Nice folk, but it's a world away from our school, which is

pretty 'leafy lane'.


.@cherrylkd @gwenelope @debsgf lol i teach allSaturday, including coaching sports outside my subject.Sundays are for planning #ukedchat

20:38:55 @Debsgf

@Coding2Learn is this a good thing though? Would thisimprove standards? It's a part of the culture in theprivate sector? #UKedchat


@Debsgf #ukedchat There's still a lot ofpreconceptions/false assumptions on both sides. I'd

have had them too had I not taught in both.20:38:42 @SENConsultancy

@sarah_extence Does depend on the feild but agreeand more so with boys schools. #ukedchat

20:38:31 @hrogerson

@Debsgf independent schools have to go it alone asthey don't get the same level of support, e.g nobursaries for cpd. Isolates #ukedchat

20:38:24 @CaldiesEnglish@Debsgf This is a question I find very interesting#UKedchat


.@ieshasmall @debsgf i taught in a state comp wherethe kids had better cars than the teachers! They allexpect teacher to produce #ukedchat

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20:38:10 @Debsgf

@SalopSkyBlue you seem unusual that you've workedin both sectors! What do you think each can learn fromeach other? #UKedchat


@Debsgf More hours T&L will have an effect. If you can

get staff and students on board then I can't see theproblem. #ukedchat


@ieshasmall: @Jon_Torbitt @Debsgf same for stateschools in certain catchment areas of course. agreed#ukedchat

20:37:43 @hrogerson

@Debsgf however, some private schools will try andcollaborate with local schools by inviting them to events,it's marketing. #ukedchat


@Gwenelope #ukedchat I moved at deputy headship

level (5th school) - didn't necessarily want ind sector butdid want dep headship!

20:37:35 @Gwenelope

@Debsgf Forced can't possibly work can it, butsomething like a 'cross pollination' Teach Meet wouldhave a better chance...#ukedchat

20:37:12 @Coding2Learn@Debsgf I already give up a day a weekend to schoolwork, as do most teachers I know. #ukedchat

20:36:59 @Kezmerrelda

#UKedchat my friends kids in private (primary age) &many seem to be so fed up of unqualified teachers they

have pulled their kids out

20:36:25 @Debsgf

@CaldiesEnglish I'm actually a lisurprised at the lack ofreal communication between the two sectors. Maybe#Ofsted has a point! #UKedchat

20:36:21 @MissBex_M

I feel I don't know enough about private sector schoolsto say what the difference really is. We live withstereotypes #ukedchat

20:36:21 @MsFindlater @HoDTeacher in what way #UKedchat

20:36:01 @Educationchat@Debsgf SSH! Don't give Gove any more crazy ideas!

#ukedchat

20:35:51 @hrogerson

@Gwenelope @mrlockyer don't come to visit us!Hogwarts is not to far off. No over-large spiders in theforest though! #ukedchat


@MissBex_M #ukedchat Absolutely. Thepressures/demands are different - neither is a piece ofcake. But generally most pupils want to learn.

20:35:43 @Debsgf

Could you say that private schools are perceived asmore successful just because they have a more affluentand able intake? #UKedchat

20:35:41 @sarah_extence #ukedchat I work pubic my dad does private same

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difficulties with families same sorts of neglect differenteducational expectations

20:35:41 @HeyMissSmith

.@CaldiesEnglish Improving education for the poorestand most vulnerable children in society is not

encapsulated in a sound bite. #ukedchat

20:35:37 @CaldiesEnglish@MissBex_M This is the truth with a lot of teachers,students and parents, I think #UKedchat

20:35:36 @FrancisPersonae

@Debsgf @taralatkinson Agreed Tara. We doPhilosophy at A-level (not RS) and through the lowerschool. Uncommon in state schools. #UKedchat


@Debsgf I don't agree that they have a more ableintake. I would say that is true of Grammar schools,which are selective. #ukedchat

20:35:28 @Gwenelope @jillberry102 And a successful one too I see! #ukedchat


@Debsgf They do have parents that are more investedin their student's education and probably more of anethos towards success #ukedchat


If you swapped pupils in a state school with those in aprivate school, would the priv. still come out on top interms of results? #ukedchat

20:35:03 @hrogerson

@Debsgf @Coding2Learn shorter terms means to getthe guided learning hours in you need Saturdays and it

occupies the borders. #ukedchat20:34:53 @Debsgf

I think we need to set up some cross-sector visits. Thisis proving fascinating. #UKedchat

20:34:45 @goveglossary

Private Schools: state schools can learn you can pay foryour child to attend a school which is exempt fromNational Curriculum. #ukedchat

20:34:43 @cherrylkd@jillberry102 @Gwenelope @Debsgf #UKedchat Thankyou. That would be very interesting in the near future.

20:34:22 @Gwenelope@hrogerson @mrlockyer Want to visit even more now!

#hogwartslike #ukedchat20:34:06 @Coding2Learn

@PaulDSharpe A similar experiment was done in theStates, if I can find the link I'll post. #ukedchat


@Debsgf Defensiveness? Fear? So highly emotive, ittends to polarise people and collaboration becomesdifficult #UKedchat


@Debsgf #ukedchat There are lots of complex factors.Many aren't that narrowly selective & many have bignumbers of pupils on fee support.

20:34 @HoDTeacher @MsFindlater colleagues found an assumption thattheir experience doesn't necessarily cross over as a

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predictor of future success #ukedchat


@Coding2Learn It will be interesting to see whether it'sthe quality of teaching or the "class" of pupil in theschool. #ukedchat

20:33:54 @mrlockyer@PaulDSharpe Huge number of variables, but crackingquestion! #ukedchat Recent research found biggestinfluence was no. of books at home!


@Gwenelope @Debsgf Good idea, though. Honestyand collaboration are key in improving ALL teaching#UKedchat

20:33:44 @HoDTeacher@MsFindlater i.e. too 'different', perhaps an assumptionthat they have had it easy #ukedchat


.@Debsgf @coding2learn it's part of the culture, not just

about standards or pass rates. Remember some areboarding schools #ukedchat

20:33:12 @Debsgf@CaldiesEnglish @Gwenelope cross sector teachmeet. Interesting idea #UKedchat

20:33:02 @SGSLTDinspire

@taralatkinson: @debsgf #ukedchat Classicalcivilisation and Int Bacc -two successful 'private school'subjects now successfully exported.

20:33 @jillberry102

@MsFindlater @HoDTeacher #ukedchat I've knownseveral people do this successfully but you can't leave it

too long - easy to get out of touch20:33 @Debsgf

Is the curriculum more demanding at private schools?Has anyone worked in both sectors? #ukedchat


@PaulDSharpe I believe in the experiment it' teacher'sperception of ability. They were told that the 'poor' kidswere all gifted #ukedchat


.@Debsgf @caldiesenglish Ofsted can stay away thankyou - ISI is staffed by currently serving teachers not"pro" inspectors #ukedchat

20:32:47 @urban_teacher No School is the same, the needs and specialismsvaries. However passion, drive and vision is alwaysneeded #ukedchat

20:32:39 @MsFindlater@HoDTeacher I find that sad. Clear prejudice. A goodteacher is a good teacher. #UKedchat


@MsFindlater @HoDTeacher #ukedchat & have to sayin my experience that once in ind sector most peopledon't WANT to move back.

20:32:26 @Gwenelope @CaldiesEnglish @Debsgf Quite true. #ukedchat

20:32:16 @cherrylkd @JamesJMatthews #UKedchat I hope you aren't sayingstate teachers couldn't see the potential of a child gifted

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in science. Many could.

20:32:03 @Pekabelo

@JamesJMatthews @Debsgf if we focused on learningrather than progress we'd be doing even better :)#UKedchat

20:31:42 @Debsgf @Jon_Torbitt @CaldiesEnglish can you explain a bitmore about how you're inspected? #UKedchat


.@Debsgf: I think we need to set up some cross-sectorvisits. This is proving fascinating. #UKedchat too muchignorance out there!

20:30:55 @HoDTeacher@Debsgf @CaldiesEnglish @Gwenelope hope to dothis next year #ukedchat

20:30:45 @IaninSheffield@mrlockyer Number of books may be correlated, butsuspect it's not causal? #ukedchat

20:30:43 @missyip_maths@Debsgf I know some private and state schools thatlink up for G&T challenge days and take in turns to hostthe event #UKedchat


.@cherrylkd @jillberry102 @gwenelope @debsgf samehere - always happy to host visits / collaborative work#ukedchat


@Kezmerrelda #ukedchat I think that in actual fact thereare not huge numbers of teachers in ind schools withoutQTS. Another preconception!

20:30:28 @MissBex_M@Debsgf @CaldiesEnglish @Gwenelope I think itwould be very interesting to do a cross over #TM#UKedchat

20:30:19 @SparkyTeaching

Teachers of Britain... If the name Brian Cant meanssomething to you, you might like to read this... >>https://twitter.com/petecant/status/355341847230545920 #ukedchat


#ukedchat experiences ch. get dramatically impact theired. I could immerse my child in affluent vocab or work

all hrs to pay for their ed


.@PaulDSharpe @coding2learn more like it's the impactthat the teaching makes. NOTHING to do with socialclass #ukedchat

20:29:56 @Debsgf

What about the quality of teachers? Private schools donot need to employ qualified teachers. Academies nolonger have to either. #ukedchat

20:29:48 @cherrylkd@mrlockyer @Gwenelope #UKedchat state schools aremore like Waterloo Rd #heavenforbid

20:29:35 @MsFindlater@mrlockyer @PaulDSharpe #UKedchat language andcommunication at home is Hugh factor. Families that

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discuss develop their children.


@Debsgf I would like to know this. Actually really knowit, rather than blustering defensively! My instinct is that itvaries #UKedchat

20:29:10 @jillberry102@Coding2Learn @Debsgf #ukedchat It's when you giveup TWO days at the weekend - one for Sat school/sportand Sunday to do schoolwork!


@urban_teacher: No School is the same, needs andspecialisms vary. However passion, drive and vision isalways needed #ukedchat agreed!!!

20:29 @HoDTeacher collaborative projects happening at my ind sch: G+Tscience, sport, SLT, ... #ukedchat

20:28:33 @mrlockyer@Debsgf Worked in both. More curriculum freedom in

Independent but changes must be justified. #ukedchat


#UKedchat v interesting discussion. As a parent I cansee why people pay for private secondary but not surewhy primary, unless bad area?


@MsFindlater: @HoDTeacher I find that sad. Clearprejudice. A good teacher is a good teacher.#UKedchat agreed - ridiculous prejudice

20:27:51 @Coding2Learn@Jon_Torbitt @PaulDSharpe I agree. I think the culturein the school is the biggest influence here. #ukedchat

20:27:42 @Jon_Torbitt@Pekabelo: @JamesJMatthews @Debsgf if focusedon learning rather than progress we'd be doing evenbetter :) #UKedchat that's how we do it

20:27:39 @MissBex_M

@deafdotty @CaldiesEnglish #UKedchat yes - I justthink of how much progress you could ensure if u onlyhave 10 in a class


@Jon_Torbitt @coding2learn You're probably correct.However, it would be an interesting experiment.#ukedchat

20:27:04 @Debsgf @mrlockyer what was the difference in facilities, pupilintake and parental support? #UKedchat

20:27:01 @hrogerson

@Debsgf our senior school is similar. The girls can doLatin in year 9, but so could I at a state school in 93.Maybe more games. #ukedchat


@cherrylkd: @mrlockyer @Gwenelope #UKedchatstate schools are more like Waterloo Rd #heavenforbidWaterloo Road is idiotic nonsense!

20:26:50 @mrlockyer@IaninSheffield Saved the report, 112 pages long, butI'm sure that's explored in there! #ukedchat

20:26:39 @MsFindlater @jillberry102 @HoDTeacher really? I find that a little

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sad too. Where there is most need, we need the bestteachers. #UKedchat

20:26:37 @CaldiesEnglish@Jon_Torbitt @urban_teacher Absolutely! It's what Ilike to believe exists #UKedchat

20:26:34 @jillberry102@Debsgf @SalopSkyBlue #ukedchat Not sure it IS thatunusual. In the ind schls where I was deputy/head moststaff had taught in state sector

20:26:28 @Coding2LearnI'd be interested in knowing per pupil funding in privatevs state sector. #ukedchat

20:26:17@andrewwarnerkms

Latest post: "Approaching Differentiation: the proof is inthe pudding".http://andywarner78.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/approaching-differentiation-the-proof-is-in-the-pudding/

#ukedchat #edchat #engchatuk

20:26:11 @mrlockyer

@MissBex_M @Debsgf @CaldiesEnglish @GwenelopeCrossover TMs already happen - independent teachersattend TMs too! #ukedchat

20:26:09 @Debsgf

@Jon_Torbitt @Pekabelo @JamesJMatthews stateschools are far too influenced by educational policy &Ofsted? Is that is true? #UKedchat


.@CaldiesEnglish @debsgf curriculum is same - we 'do'GCSEs/A Levels. Kids still get qualifications. Less

unnecessary hoop jumping #ukedchat20:25:44 @MsFindlater @mrlockyer @PaulDSharpe *huge* oops #UKedchat

20:25:29 @cherrylkd

@Jon_Torbitt @jillberry102 @Gwenelope @Debsgfthank you. It's all about collaborative learning. You'requite right. #UKedchat

20:25:29 @Debsgf@hrogerson lots of state schools have a classics dept. Ithink it's growing considerably. #UKedchat


@Jon_Torbitt @Debsgf @CaldiesEnglish #ukedchatYes - the peer review system in ind sector inspection is

a strength.20:25:10 @mrlockyer

@Debsgf If quality of teaching is poor, pupils leave,income lost, school closes. Different in state. #ukedchat

20:24:56 @hrogerson

@Debsgf the only unqualified 'teachers' we employ aresports coaches, but they are qualified coaches:Parentsdemand high standards #ukedchat


.@Debsgf @caldiesenglish receive 2-3d notice. ServingHTs/teachers come in (trained by ISI) and inspect ALLaspects of school #ukedchat

20:24:32 @DrDawnie@Debsgf Come to this late but think vital to rememberthat labels can be reductive. Not all indes the same, just

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as not all states #UKedchat

20:24:15 @Debsgf

Would you say that state schools are too concernedwith playing the league tables game, rather than stick tosolid teaching? #UKedchat

20:24:09 @ukedchat@jillberry102 @cherrylkd @Gwenelope @DebsgfKindly use the #ukedchat hash tag, rather than the @account. Thank you.

20:24:08 @jillberry102@sarah_extence #ukedchat I'd say that's often more todo with parental contacts than school contacts.

20:24:04 @cherrylkd@JamesJMatthews Phew! This debate has hugepotential for misinterpretation doesn't it. #UKedchat

20:23:47 @whizzybabes

@Debsgf wish we didn't have to pay for a decentlearning experience! However, for our kids it was the

right choice to do so #UKedchat


.@Debsgf @pekabelo @jamesjmatthews perhaps toomuch kangaroo management to meet 'initiatives' andpointless % targets for mgmt. #ukedchat


@MsFindlater @mrlockyer I was wondering if I'd missedsomething and thought the Hugh factor was some newgrading scale. Haha. #ukedchat

20:23:12 @Kezmerrelda #UKedchat

20:23:08 @natkin

Three Act Science - Collaboration?

http://wp.me/p386SF-2Q via @natkin #ukedchat#edchat #asechat #sltchat # sci chat

20:23:05 @SalopSkyBlue

#ukedchat I've worked in the private sector for 19 years.In my experience, the vast majority of teachers arequalified.


@Jon_Torbitt @Debsgf Interesting. Would love tocompare like for like. Interested in T&L strategies: anydifferences, I wonder? #UKedchat

20:22:57 @hrogerson

@jillberry102 @MsFindlater @HoDTeacher agree, I do

extremely long days, but I am thanked by students adozen times a day. #ukedchat

20:22:51 @sarah_extence#ukedchat all schools have similar challenges underdifferent policies sharing strengths is always beneficial


.@jillberry102 @debsgf @caldiesenglish my annualreview had 3 ons and 7hrs of interviews/reflection notincluding my own! #ukedchat

20:22:38@MonstersCanRead

Private vs State Schools debate over on right now#ukedchat Fascinating!

20:22:11 @jackieschneider Sorry but I find private education morally indefensible. Itis divisive when wealthiest choose to educate their kids

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separately #ukedchat


.@MsFindlater @pekabelo @jamesjmatthews @debsgfLearning IS progress but i don't need the class tostop/tell every1 regularly #ukedchat

20:21:57 @DebsgfInteresting discussion as to whether state schools aretoo focused on gov initiatives. Should state schools stickto their guns? #UKedchat

20:21:49 @mrlockyer@Debsgf Varies from school to school. Just like State.#ukedchat


#ukedchat Many teachers in private schools move overfrom the state sector because of their love of teachingwithout state education issues

20:21:45 @aknill

@Debsgf @MissBex_M @CaldiesEnglish @Gwenelope

#ukedchat there have been #teachmeet overlap inspeakers as at #TMMiltonKeynes inMarch2013.

20:21:10 @hrogerson

@Coding2Learn have a look at the score report onpractical science funding, - a lot more money spends inIndy schools! #ukedchat

20:20:57 @SENConsultancy@Debsgf Independent schools are concerned withleague tables just as much as state #ukedchat

20:20:37 @Debsgf@aknill @MissBex_M @CaldiesEnglish @Gwenelopedid you see any differences in approach? #UKedchat

20:20:37 @Jon_Torbitt.@CaldiesEnglish @debsgf one example - English classreading about blackberry picking, so they downed pensand went bb picking! #ukedchat


@Debsgf #ukedchat Don't think you can 'force'partnership & mutual respect. Need to find ways ofencouraging the mutual respect (both sides)


@CaldiesEnglish @debsgf we do a Music/arts/dramaweek at end of yr to promote creative arts just for the joyof making something #ukedchat

20:20:22 @missyip_maths @SENConsultancy @Debsgf I agree, they wouldn't getthe intake or prestige without it #ukedchat

20:20:17 @FrancisPersonae

One can learn from ind schools to be daring inintellectually challenging students. A visit can changeyour assumptions. #UKedchat

20:20:17 @cherrylkd @JamesJMatthews :)) #UKedchat

20:19:59 @jackieschneider

@Debsgf: Interesting discussion ... Should stateschools stick to their guns? #UKedchat >> I thought itwas only Eton that had rifles?

20:19:54 @andylutwyche State and private not comparable but teaching ideascould be shared, just classroom management ideas

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couldn't. #UKedchat


@Debsgf The threat of Ofsted makes it rather hard forstates schools to stick to their guns in some cases, no?#ukedchat

20:19:08 @IaninSheffieldWonder what a student who has crossed from state toind. or vice versa would have to contribute to thisdiscussion? #ukedchat


.@MissBex_M @deafdotty @caldiesenglish can'tensure progress, but higher chance of 1-1 time withpupils #effectiverelationships #ukedchat

20:18:42 @SalopSkyBlue#ukedchat The demands are there in private schools butthey are often very different.

20:18:23 @ICT_MrP

Amazed at how quickly my diary is filling up already for

next year! Don't be disappointed! Details here -http://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/p/ipads-across-curriculum-training.html #UKedchat


@jackieschneider How about Private Healthcare Privatehomes? Private transport? Not trolling, just where theline is drawn #ukedchat

20:18:14 @SENConsultancy@jackieschneider many children in private school don'tcome from wealth backgrounds #ukedchat

20:18:13 @Pekabelo

@JamesJMatthews @Debsgf @Jon_Torbitt no but we

do have a huge education dept which can stifle pace ofdevelopment. #UKedchat

20:18:08 @Debsgf

@ThompRichard maybe they should though? Maybethat's something the sector could learn from the privateschools? #UKedchat


@MsFindlater @jillberry102 @hodteacher agreed butonce had 52 appointments for 117 kids IN ONE YEAR -impossible to sustain #state #ukedchat

20:17:50 @aknill

@Debsgf @MissBex_M @CaldiesEnglish @Gwenelope

#UKedchat it was more a case of teachers sharingideas, that's what teachmeets are for.

20:17:45 @urban_teacher

The big issues Is teachers getting complacent in a everchanging educational system. Be a game changerbefore the game changes you #ukedchat


.@Debsgf @pekabelo @jamesjmatthews possibly -dangerous to generalise but pressures of failure are toobig a worry in state sector #ukedchat

20:17:37 @Pekabelo

@MsFindlater @Jon_Torbitt @JamesJMatthews@Debsgf depends if we're talking 'ofsted progress' orgenuine learning taking place! #UKedchat

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20:17:33 @Debsgf

This is a fascinating discussion! So little actualcollaboration between sectors. Is this class? Prejudice?Media? #UKedchat

20:17:30 @WhatLeighSays

I'm really enjoying seeing people getting involved in

#UKedchat in my feed, as a student who wants to gointo teaching. Interesting stuff.


@Debsgf @MissBex_M husband ha taught in bothsectors - independent schools don't have to includedisruptive children ! #bonus #UKedchat


@Debsgf Quite possibly they should, though I canunderstand why stories of forced academisation makeschools reticent to do so #UKedchat

20:17:18 @PaulDSharpe @Debsgf Disinterest? Fear of the unknown? #ukedchat

20:17:10 @SGSLTDinspire@Debsgf:Should state schools stick to Govt lines?Utend to find best heads have rogue streak -try +bend thesystem for pupils #UKedchat


@SENConsultancy - guessing kids in private schoolsaren't generally disabled, from low income families or onFSM? #ukedchat

20:16:38 @taralatkinson

#UKedchat @debsgf Our local public school is veryfriendly - invitations to events, sharing resources,trainee visits, mock interviews, etc.

20:16:35 @HoDTeacher @Jon_Torbitt @MsFindlater @jillberry102 wow#ukedchat

20:16:29 @andylutwyche

@MsFindlater @jillberry102 @HoDTeacher Can ublame teachers for not wanting to return? Pressure atboth, more destructive at state #UKedchat


@jackieschneider Does the existence of Private schoolsaffect you. You can teach anywhere. Send your kidsanywhere. #ukedchat

20:15:58 @SalopSkyBlue#UKedchat I have collaborated with state secondary

and primary schools on STEM projects in recent years.


@Pekabelo @msfindlater @jamesjmatthews @debsgfyeah "have we all progressed?" 5 times an hour is notprogress. it's box ticking #ukedchat

20:15:48 @MsFindlater@Pekabelo @Jon_Torbitt @JamesJMatthews @Debsgfgenuine learning all the way. OFSTEDwho? #UKedchat

20:15:43 @Debsgf

Less behaviour problems, smaller classes, no #ofstedand a strength in their learning foundations, so noconstant changes. #UKedchat

20:15:38 @jackieschneiderHas anyone mentioned charity status for privateschools? #ukedchat

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20:15:34 @chrismcd53

Safe searching with Google and YouTube via@TimWoda http://www.safekids.com/2013/07/11/safe-searching-with-google/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

#esafety #ukedchat #ispekeout

20:15:28 @Mat6453Using Smore in a variety of ways http://wp.me/p3a7br-9e #ukedchat #mlearning #adedu

20:15:24 @Pekabelo@MsFindlater @Jon_Torbitt @JamesJMatthews@Debsgf :) I know you know! :)) #UKedchat

20:15:22 @jackieschneider@Coding2Learn - yep. It tells my kids that aren't and willnever be part of the elite #ukedchat

20:15:12 @amsammons

Any #english teachers have recommendations for aliteracy/dept marking policy? Currently reviewing ours-

suggestions welcome :) #ukedchat


@CaldiesEnglish @debsgf constantly developing T&L isa massive priority - what is best for the child drives that#ukedchat


@Debsgf #UKedchat ISI inspections are completed inprivate schools and regulated by OFSTED. A slightlydifferent emphasis but important.

20:14:53 @Debsgf Don't forget to hashtag #UKedchat with your responses!


@MsFindlater @HoDTeacher #ukedchat I wouldn't say

the best teachers are/stay in the ind sector, Sarah.There are fantastic teachers in both.

20:14:51 @rapclassroom@jackieschneider: Has anyone mentioned charitystatus for private schools? #ukedchat They have now!


I can't believe that there isn't more shock at theinequality between private schools & state schools.#ukedchat


collaboration will have inherent limitations: where indhas flexibility - curriculum, staffing, facilities, state has

hands tied #ukedchat20:14:16 @Debsgf @SalopSkyBlue what are the emphasises? #UKedchat

20:14:07 @MsFindlater

@Jon_Torbitt @Pekabelo @JamesJMatthews @Debsgfit is whatever you make it. You and I, along with thestudents all want to... #UKedchat

20:14:01 @farmors4maths

1982-2013 Head of Maths #berniegleeson retires after31 years inspiring love of maths. Have you message forhim? #ukedchat @nrichmaths #math


@Debsgf personally our children benefit from single sexeducation - maybe more state single sex schools areneeded. #UKedchat

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20:13:45 @Mat6453

Teacher standards and digital innovation. A few ideas tohelp them alonghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/6c9vyoyh9qno2pt/Teacher%20standards%20and%20Digital%20Innovation.pdf

#ukedchat #pegeeks #mLearning


@MsFindlater @HoDTeacher #ukedchat And there areneedy pupils in ind schools too. Full range ofsocial/emotional issues.

20:13:23 @teechit

@Jon_Torbitt just out of interest- what kind of proportionof pupils are we talking with a significant bursary?#ukedchat


#ukedchat the norms and values of private schools(perhaps parents)differ my parents teach if he hits you

hit him harder

20:13:02 @ICT_MrP

My class were buzzing when I said @alanpeat has anew super sentence book! The 1st made themsuperheroeshttp://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/let-students-be-teachers-part-1.html #ukedchat


@missyip_maths @pekabelo @debsgf@jamesjmatthews yeah then focus was something else,now it's something else, next week it'll be #ukedchat

20:12:39 @MsFindlater @Jon_Torbitt @Pekabelo @JamesJMatthews @Debsgf...make progress. 'You know who' has made it a dirtyword. Lets reclaim it! #UKedchat

20:12:30 @aknill

@Debsgf: This is a fascinating discussion! So littleactual collaboration between sectors. Is this class?Prejudice? Media? #UKedchattime?


"@jillberry102: #ukedchat I wouldn't say the bestteachers are/stay in the ind sector, Sarah. There arefantastic teachers in both." Agreed

20:12:19 @Jon_Torbitt @teechit More than most believe. Not at liberty todiscuss specifics sorry. Indpts are charities. Mostneglect to notice that #ukedchat

20:12:09 @Gwenelope

@mrlockyer @MissBex_M @Debsgf @CaldiesEnglishIndeed Stevo, but is it that actually discussed at a TM?#ukedchat

20:12:06 @jackieschneiderWhy do parents pay to send their children to a privateschool? #ukedchat

20:12 @MsFindlater @jillberry102 @HoDTeacher of course, you are right.#UKedchat

20:11:53 @YuviLite I got called a sell out from moving to ind from state. I

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think that says it all. #UKedchat


"@jillberry102: #ukedchat And there are needy pupils inind schools too. Full range of social/emotional issues." Vmuch so, pastoral is key

20:11:48 @DrJessicaHamer There could be more collaboration, but what be the gainfor Ind schools? CPD collaboration? #UKedchat

20:11:45 @YuviLite

I moved due to becoming a new parent and the statesector couldn't give me an increase to provide for mychild #UKedchat


@WhatLeighSays then help inform some misguidedthinking - not everyone at a state school can't afford togo private! #ukedchat


#UKedchat Whilst on my main TP, I was appointed to

my first job at a private school. Some of the teachers onTP refused to speak to me.

20:10:56 @mikallaane

@WhatLeighSays Why do you want to go into teaching?#UKedchat Which area primary or secondary? & whichsector? State or private?

20:10:45 @Code_ED

nice to see #UKedchat trending so highly today. If itwasn't for some snake enabled phone with a boxbrownie on the back it'd be number 1!!


.@jackieschneider @senconsultancy more than you

would think are. Individual needs are not just for stateschools #ukedchat


#ukedchat I'm heartened that several people in thedebate have admitted to not knowing enough about theother sector - both sides 1/2


@jackieschneider: Has anyone mentioned charitystatus for private schools? #ukedchat yes - we are acharity, as most are

20:10:19 @Gwenelope@YuviLite Really?? Thought the 'sell out' thing would be

more from state to indie. Who knew? #ukedchat

20:10:12 @Debsgf

Last ten minutes people. Really surprised at howpolarised we are in private or state sectors. How do wemove forward together? #UKedchat


@jackieschneider #UKedchat I know. You'd think asthey'd paid their taxes they'd want to benefit from stateeducation like others do.

20:09:52 @travelgeordie

Hope im not too boring!! Hacking the Curriculum bursaryproject http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K21rS2Lo5F0&sns=tw via @youtube #ukedchat#pbl #edchat

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@Debsgf @GreenHamstring #UKedchat 2/2 not sureprivate schools are really taking part in a professionaldialogue anywhere that can b heard

20:09:44 @SparkyTeachingTry testing all *that*! (see pic) #ukedchat >>

pic.twitter.com/0uXjTEu6by


#ukedchat Think this is a positive first step. The dangeris when we think we know & make sweepingjudgements. (There have been a few..) 2/2

20:09:21 @jackieschneiderI don't think private schools deserve charity status.#ukedchat

20:09:20 @Jon_Torbitt.@SalopSkyBlue @debsgf ISI inspection is also arigorous inspection process! #ukedchat

20:09:17 @DebsgfPrivate or state: both sectors inspire and educate. How

can we collaborate? How can we link? #UKedchat

20:09:08 @hrogerson

@jackieschneider I think in Bristol it is because theydon't perceive the state schools as nice enough. #rough#ukedchat


@jackieschneider I'd have to agree to this one. I don'tthink Academies should enjoy charitable status either.#ukedchat

20:08:51 @Jon_Torbitt.@jackieschneider have you been to a North Londonfaith school????? #rich #elitist #ukedchat

20:08:48 @blondebonce @Debsgf I think these are important differences +supportive parents. #UKedchat

20:08:35 @DrJessicaHamer

@Debsgf on the other hand there is greater expectationthat teachers will run after school clubs/sports etc in indschools #ukedchat

20:08:34 @ukedchat

#UKedchat is always on the look out for hosts for thecommunity's Thursday night sessions. If you areinterested, please get in touch.

20:08:29 @ABeautifulMind1

My children went to a private prep school. I'm a single

parent and paid next to nothing. Just negotiate likecrazy :) #ukedchat


@Debsgf #UKedchat I went to a A Level subjectmeeting on Monday with teachers from both sectors.This should be encouraged.


@jackieschneider @HeyMissSmith #ukedchat I think Ifelt the same (& about private health too) - until I'dtaught in both sectors.

20:08:20 @Debsgf@DrJessicaHamer should that be an aspect for statesector too? #UKedchat

20:08:18 @Coding2Learn @teechit @jackieschneider Yep, this is the modern

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selection system, and I've played it with my ownchildren. #ukedchat

20:08:15 @jackieschneiderHow can it be right to segregate kids by wealth?#ukedchat

20:08:07 @SENConsultancy @jackieschneider If it wasn't for charity status manychildren wouldnt be able to attend. #ukedchat


@jackieschneider Looked at private years ago for ASDson foolishly thinking he wud get more support turnedout he wud get none #UKedchat

20:07:55 @Gwenelope

@Debsgf What we are doing now is a good start.#twitter then a #TeachMeet maybe, then cross-sectorschool visits. #ukedchat

20:07:54 @SGSLTDinspire

@Debsgf:. How do we move forward together?Open up

private facilities off peak is a start. Open pupils eyes andteacher shadowing #UKedchat

20:07:52 @KempsterD

Can private schls transform state ed?http://gu.com/p/3h43d/tw 'state schls in UK outperformprivate schls by a considerable margin' #ukedchat


@Jon_Torbitt @salopskyblue @debsgf Does ISI haveteeth? What would happen if school deemed to be'inadequate' (hypothetically)? #ukedchat

20:07:47 @Debsgf

@danielharvey9: @Debsgf really?? Will always be

private schools. Do we need to move together?? No realdemand for it #UKedchat


.@Debsgf progress by losing the preconceptions,bitterness and politicised views. We all just want thebest for the kids we teach #ukedchat

20:07:40 @mikallaane@DrJessicaHamer @Debsgf this is also the case insome state schools #UKedchat

20:07:36 @aknill

@Gwenelope: @Debsgf What we are doing now is agood start. #twitter then a #TeachMeet maybe, then

cross-sector school visits. #ukedchatyes

20:07:35 @Code_ED

I went to a private school (age 11-15).I don't think Iexperienced any innovation there at all.Only went for mydyslexia - no help #UKedchat


#ukedchat I love learning, As long as the children arethe heart of the school I would teach the same way ineither public or state

20:07:24 @Debsgf@Jon_Torbitt I think you're correct. This #UKedchat hasreally surprised me!

20:07:13 @BalfePaula@urban_teacher: No School is the same, the needsand specialisms varies. However passion, drive and

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vision is always needed #ukedchat true


#ukedchat It's not about school collaborating, it's aboutteacher doing it. @CompAtSch is a prime example. Allsectors included.

20:06:57 @JamesJMatthews @Gwenelope @Debsgf Agreed! Perhaps starthere....share practice #ukedchat

20:06:47 @Gwenelope@Debsgf @DrJessicaHamer It is already in many stateschools isn't it? #clubs etc #ukedchat


@SalopSkyBlue @debsgf I go to @CompAtSchmeetings with 1/3 state, 2/3 ind attendance. NOBODYCARES ABOUT SECTOR #ukedchat

20:06:41 @Debsgf@mikallaane @DrJessicaHamer more so now withextended hours #UKedchat

20:06:18 @danielharvey9 @Debsgf #UKedchat if there was a demand there wouldbe more joint sector work. There doesn't seem to be

20:06:16 @Debsgf

@danielharvey9: @Debsgf #UKedchat if there was ademand there would be more joint sector work. Theredoesn't seem to be who agrees?


.@Kezmerrelda @jackieschneider then you should tryschools like ours with dedicated SEN departments andTAs #ukedchat

20:06:09 @ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts?

20:06:07 @SalopSkyBlue#UKedchat The thing is with private education is thatmostly the children have no choice. As a teacher, it's thechildren I care about.


@Jon_Torbitt @Debsgf Well said, the kids don't makethe decision, they all need to be taught and looked after#ukedchat

20:05:45 @jackieschneiderI'd love to use the fantastic lavish facilities that privateschools have for my class. Any offers? #ukedchat

20:05:27 @Gwenelope @Debsgf @danielharvey9 No harm in trying..#ukedchat

20:05:19 @SENConsultancy @ABeautifulMind1 Did the same for my son for Primary.Gone to state secondary #ukedchat


.@danielharvey9 @debsgf that's because too manypeople believe the rubbish put out there by the leftistpress. Open your eyes ppl #ukedchat

20:05:04 @DrDawnie

@Debsgf Get rid of stereotypes. I've worked in bothsectors & think there's great scope for sharing: all sameunder surface #UKedchat

20:05:02 @jillberry102#ukedchat Just a plea for greater understanding on both

sides and to be aware of prejudice/false assumptions....20:04:55 @Dragonfly_Edu Independent can provide a structure that is conducive to

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seamless transitions. State can be daunting when Yr6goes to 'big school' #ukedchat

20:04:50 @jackieschneider@DrDawnie @Debsgf - are we all in this together as MrCameron says? #ukedchat

20:04:50 @Gwenelope @JamesJMatthews @Debsgf Can't hurt can it?#ukedchat

20:04:22 @Debsgf

So teach meets, cross CPD training,pupils mixing, crosssector planning. Can this make the difference? Or is ittoo deep rooted? #UKedchat

20:04:17 @Kezmerrelda@Jon_Torbitt @jackieschneider are you talkingsecondary or younger? #UKedchat

20:04:08 @Pekabelo

@Debsgf @danielharvey9 I have such a core belief thateveryone should go to their community school,

collaboration is a challenge. #UKedchat20:04:07 @DrDawnie @Debsgf We *do* link. Right here. #UKedchat

20:03:56 @NewsAcademy

RT @jillberry102: #ukedchat Just a plea for greaterunderstanding on both sides and to be aware ofprejudice/false assumptions....

20:03:56 @jackieschneiderAny private schools got families going out of their mindswith worry over the bedroom tax? #ukedchat

20:03:42 @web20education

In case you missed @LucianeCurator shared Top 100#edtools discovered through #iste13

http://lucianecurator.sharedby.co/share/HbnCQd#edchat #ukedchat #cpchat #sm

20:03:36 @ukedchat

#UKedchat is getting bigger Join a mini discussionevery night on Mon-Sat, plus the usual Thursday nightdebate.


.@Pekabelo @debsgf @danielharvey9 but OURBELIEFS ARE IRRELEVANT - it's what is best for theindividual child that matters #ukedchat

20:03:22 @jackieschneiderAny private schools got kids choosing which day they

can afford to buy a school dinner? #ukedchat

20:02:54 @laalpotts

Using current nat curric for skills & new curric forcontent in sept '13. What happens in sept '14? Do westill teach skills? #ukedchat


.@Kezmerrelda @jackieschneider all ages - we offerSEN support for all children and are a 3-18 school dayand boarding school #ukedchat

20:02:31 @ukedchat

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20:01:58 @Coding2Learn #ukedchat Any CompSci teachers here should switch

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20:01:33 @mikallaane

@jackieschneider I would love my parents to have thesame high expectations as the school & truly engagewith the schools #UKedchat

20:01:22 @danielharvey9@Jon_Torbitt @Debsgf so issues of pedagogydevelopment and quality of L and T not sure how theyare viewers in private sectors #UKedchat


@Jon_Torbitt @danielharvey9 @debsgf would love todo an observation in a ind. school in exchange for oneback of course #UKedchat

20:00:52 @missyip_maths@PhilippaLark @Debsgf they also host Easter revisionsessions for GCSE students #ukedchat

20:00:45 @Debsgf Miss Yip @missyip_maths 3m

20:00:11 @ukedchatIt's 9pm. Huge thanks to @Debsgf for hosting tonights#ukedchat. The archive will be athttp://ukedchat.com/2013/07/11/session-159/ soon.

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