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as external hard drives, digital cameras with removable media, and USB flash drives," Apple added.

Although Mac OS X is not affected, the virus will remain on the device. Apple notes that

customers can use the "restore" feature in iTunes 7 to wipe the iPod clean so it can be connected

to Windows computers without problems in the future.

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Techno-CratOct 17, 2006 - 11:08 PMedited

Let me this this right....Apple ships a KNOWN viruson its harware and tells MS you should to more tofix this>>>>>>>>Thats insane.....Aple thought...Most of our IPOD buyers are MS solets infect them bwahaahhahahahhaa..Wake up MS you have a weak OS

Lets warp to your local hospitalImagration wanna be comes in infected with bird fluAIDS, and countless other infections.Then has the Gal to tell "North Americans" yourfault cause you did not get shots!!!Steve .... Your press dept really needs help man

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sarahtOct 20, 2006 - 4:13AM

GFI just responded to this issue with an article thatwarns about how easy it is for viruses and othermalware to be introduced to corporate network.Companies are easily affected by iPods infectedwith malware, since most don’t seem to be awareof the dangers of media players and other portablestorage devices.

http://www.gfi.com/news/en/ipodvirus.htm

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ThuleManOct 19, 2006 - 10:18 AMedited

Hmmmmm, so MANY seemingly off-topic rantshere...it's hard to know where to start.

Let's make this simple:Apple does NOT get viruses -> TrueMicrosoft DOES get viruses -> TrueApple shipped a VERY POPULAR product (known

to be used by many consumers that ALSO useMicrosoft products) -> True

So who is at fault?

The consumer, for using the most popular OSavailable?The consumer, for using the most popular Mp3/ Media Device available?

No - not the consumer. The consumer is the victim.

Back to the question - Who is at fault?I think it's obvious that the *responsibility* lies withApple. They released the product - which containedthe virus.Microsoft, because of it's popularity in themarketplace, becomes a target...not necessarily thefault of Microsoft. It's the nature of the system.

Are Apple products affected? Most definitely.Should the customer beware? Most definitely.Has Apple (with it's attempt at SPIN) done anythingthat Microsoft (or any other mainstream company)would not have tried (in some form) - no.

I wonder - what will be the impact on IPod sales inthe next quarter? Probably minimal.

As to the 'Microsoft is for idiots' comment - justshowing your own lack of intelligence.

Can anyone guess what OS *I* use? I don't *think*I've given it away in my comments.

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HeeroOct 19, 2006 - 2:16PM

Let's make this simple:Apple does NOT get viruses -> TrueMicrosoft DOES get viruses -> TrueApple shipped a VERY POPULAR product (knownto be used by many consumers that ALSO use

Microsoft products) -> True

So Close, should have read:

Let's make this simple:Apple does NOT get viruses -> Flase, Just not as

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RageweaverOct 19, 2006 - 10:02AM

ROFL! Wow...This made my day. GG Mac. GGJobs. Go back to making a crappy OS and leaveyour iPod rest in peace.

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many as Windows.Microsoft DOES get viruses -> TrueApple shipped a VERY POPULAR product (knownto be used by many consumers that ALSO useMicrosoft products) -> True

wincementOct 18, 2006 - 10:43PM

Ahhh.... I love a good OS war.

It's always funny when absolute morons act likethey're geniuses and post almost half of the 130+comments on a story.

...and ironically, he calls everyone else a genius.The truth always comes out I guess.

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terminalxOct 18, 2006 - 5:22PM

the problem with your source is...it does not dictatehow much of that is mac...everyone knows ipodsare selling all over the place...no surprise there...

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dhjdhjOct 18, 2006 - 11:21PM

Hmmm, the latest source that I've found is righthere on BetaNews

http://www.betanews.com/ article/1161205774#c443285

Sigh

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dhjdhjOct 18, 2006 - 4:48 PM

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I'm reposting this at the top because I'm rather tiredof reading posts from people claiming that Macs

are on the decline and suggesting my newssources are in error.

Reality check: the notice below is consistent withreports from reputable analysts who have beensaying that Apple's share of the PC world has beengrowing at 15% for the last several years.-----------------------------------

From today's (Oct 18th, 2006) Wall St. JournalEarnings report:

APPLE'S NET JUMPED 27% amid strong sales ofiPod players and Macintosh computers. Revenuerose 32% to $4.84 billion.

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Post Reply Grazer

Oct 18, 2006 - 5:25PM

To nitpick just a little, that quote says nothing ofmarket share, only increased income, and not howmuch of it is from iPod sales. It is quite possiblethat the figures below could be depicting a declinein Mac sales and a tremendous increase in iPodsales. I am not saying that is what it depicts, merelythat those numbers are possible with a decline inMac sales.

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dhjdhjOct 18, 2006 - 6:46PM

If you want to nitpick, then you should check the fullreport (I didn't think I'd need to defend it so much).

The report today includes such things as

1) The company sold 1.6 million Macs, for revenueof $2.21 billion -- its best selling quarter for thecomputers ever

2) The company's notebook unit sales grew 56% inthe quarter from the same period the previous year

Both of these tend to support the growth claims thathave been made by reputable analysts such asGartner and others whose business it is to lookclosely at Apple so as to provide earnings guidanceand who are claiming 15% annual growth.

That in itself SHOULD be sufficient to dispel claimsfrom people that Mac is shrinking.

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maniakmx3Oct 18, 2006 - 1:37PM

Go figure, Apple "accidently" infects WindowsMachines with virus's...yeah...I belive that one.

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Mark GillespieOct 18, 2006 - 4:09PM

Actual malicious code, more damaging that theharmless Sony rootkit....

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guitardave78Oct 18, 2006 - 8:05AM

I love the fact that they still manage to blame M$ forit!!"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windowsfor not being more hardy against such viruses"

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FlAshdobeOct 18, 2006 - 5:46AM

Perhaps MS could sue Apple for infecting theiralmighty Windows OS :P

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maniakmx3

Oct 18, 2006 - 1:36PM

Everyone got to Sue Sony didn't they? Score: 0

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Neoprimal

Oct 18, 2006 - 1:53AM

Though 2 wrongs don't make a right....I wouldn't be

opposed to having my Zune with an OsX virus on it.I can hear Apple now "How dare MS play such adirty trick?!".

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Post Reply foxfyre

Oct 18, 2006 - 5:32 AMedited

No, what we hear is YOU positing and projectingYOUR feelings and imposing them on others.

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|Post Reply Silentmaster101

Oct 18, 2006 - 8:10AM

He has every right to post his opinion on a publicforum now doesnt he? i dont see how he isimposing them on others. If you dont like it youcould just leave. Although if you need to cry aboutit, it is your right to explain how his comment hurtyour OSX loving feelings.

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NeoprimalOct 18, 2006 - 8:59AM

Wow, sorry, didn't mean to upset anyone. I'mmerely trying to have my point come across.Apple's reaction is completely illogical, to say theleast. They should apologize to buyers AND to MS.I mean think about it for a minute, if my company

sells beef, and the meat is infected somehow with,lets say, influenza, or some other virus with avaccine, is it honestly fair for me to say "As youmight imagine, we are upset at consumers for notbeing more hardy against such viruses, and even

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The MAZZTerOct 18, 2006 - 10:16AM

And YOU'RE projecting YOUR feelings onto him. Score: 0

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more upset with ourselves for not catching it."It just doesn't make sense. Apologize toconsumers, apologize to MS, and move on.

GS5Oct 18, 2006 - 12:40 PMedited

"Wow, sorry, didn't mean to upset anyone."

Quit being such a p****!!! It's a forum you'resupposed to piss people off:-)LMAO

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maniakmx3Oct 18, 2006 - 1:39PM

Don't worry dude, there's alot of Idiots out therewho don't know how to read and misinterperate alotof things...

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wincementOct 18, 2006 - 10:31 PMedited

You are a ****ing retard. What the hell do you thinkthe comment system is for?

He's not imposing his opinion on anyone. He'sexpressing it. Did that offend you? I'm sorry. Maybeyou shouldn't read it.

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PostDealsOct 17, 2006 - 10:11PM

Someone is playing dirty, good job APPLE. Score: 0

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drummerboy627Oct 17, 2006 - 9:01PM

so because my product has a virus on it, i shouldblame windows for not protecting against the viruson my product. obviously.

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foxfyreOct 18, 2006 - 3:07 AMedited

Nope, because you choose to run Windows, youaccept the inherent risks that come with it. Like abig boy.

Just like it you buy a car and drive on the interstate,you assume risks and responsibilities for youractions and the products you put in the vehicle. Youdo not sue GM or Ford or BMW if you have anaccident or if you put dirty gas in the tank. And ifyou chose to use an alternative fuel you assumethe risks of what the product offers distinct from thevehicle. Even if it is made by GM Chevy or BMW.

Its amazing that in the InfoSec world, if I install anapplication and the OS is not patched to protect it, Ican tell you who they blame, and the manufactureris not the first! We are expected to have performeddue diligence in maintaining the OS at the latestlevel. And individuals are held liable for their failureto due so! Especially when there is a LONG historyof KNOWN problems inherent to the platform.

I guess in the high school and college world thatthere are only victims, and folks are not heldaccountable for maintaining systems at the latestlevels of code.

Speaks volumes regarding the difference betweenthe 2 worlds doesn't it.

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HeeroOct 17, 2006 - 10:28PM

I'll keep that in mind if you get into a car accidentman.

No ill will, but it's Apple's job to make sure that theIPod is safe, not Microsoft's.

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StormprobeOct 17, 2006 - 10:48PM

With that kind of flawed logic, perhaps Microsoftshould make a virus for Mac computers and let itloose on the Internet, and then Apple can inherent

risks that come with it. Like a little boy.

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So, using your logic, it is Microsoft's responsibilityto keep Windows and my PC safe.

Right... Complete and utter BS.

At the very LEAST its a shared responsibility! Andyour blaming it on someone else is no better thensomeone else doing it!

Windows has known vulnerabilities, and it is yourresponsibility to patch them as they are identifiedand to use available precautionary tools Andprocedures. It is MS's responsibility to get theirmarvel under control. And it is a 3rd party vendor'sresponsibility to insure that their code is clean.

But ultimately, the fundamental source of the risk isthe developer of the OS.

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Silentmaster101Oct 18, 2006 - 8:15 AMedited

No it is microsoft's responsibility to keep it safewhen shipped. there is no viri or spyware on it fromfactory.

I like how you can pick out windows flaws an utterlyignore the fact that this was apple's fault. you got ashrine to jobs in your bedroom in your mommy'sbasement too?

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xyzcb1Oct 18, 2006 - 9:21AM

I have always wondering why Apple's fans are referas lemming. Now, I finally see it.

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wincement ROFL Score: 0cranbers haha, wtf? They ship ipod's with a virus on it and Score: 0

















































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Oct 17, 2006 - 8:51PM

instead of explaining how that happened in detailthey take the opportunity to blast windows?

They have to know this makes them look like a fool.However at 25 instances only, it sounds like theywere loaded on them maybe by a disgruntledemployee?

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Oct 17, 2006 - 9:38PM

That would seem likely. It's almost inconceivablethat it happened by accident in that kind ofenvironment. A practical joker, perhaps? :)

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Oct 18, 2006 - 11:18PM

Enviroment where the ipods are built could surpriseyou badly. Some Apple factories in Asia wereinvestigated for infra-human work conditions. Letme put it clear: Slaves working for food. No jokethere. There, should be no surprise to find*anything* inside an iPod. A computer virus is aminor problem there...

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imafurbyOct 17, 2006 - 8:19PM

Apples, worms? There's a joke in theresomewhere. How in the hell does this happen at amanufacturing plant?

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school1012Oct 17, 2006 - 8:07PM

Again Apple always blaming someone else for theirmistakes...

"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windowsfor not being more hardy against such viruses, andeven more upset with ourselves for not catching it,"Apple said.

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GrazerOct 17, 2006 - 8:15PM

Yeah, usually you don't leave the party you are"most upset" at as an "also".

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GS5Oct 17, 2006 - 7:27PM

If the tables were turned and it was M$ instead ofApple the whole world would have filed theirlawsuits by now. And of course the first in linewould be the EU.

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Oct 17, 2006 - 8:07PM

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Oct 17, 2006 - 9:39PM

If Microsoft did it there would be more than 25cases, and they'd be claiming it wasn't their fault allthe way to court.

Is that the 'turned-table' you were talking about?

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HeeroOct 17, 2006 - 10:29PM

Though I agree that MS would say it's not heir fault,but they wouldn't blame Apple.

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GS5Oct 17, 2006 - 10:37PM

I never said that they would not deny it, c'mon we'retalking about M$ here. But how many lawsuits havebeen filed against Apple thus far??? All I'm sayingis if it were M$ the lawsuits would be raining downon them.

It's the whole "M$ evil" "Apple good" syndrome.

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xyzcb1Oct 18, 2006 - 9:23AM

""It's the whole "M$ evil" "Apple good" syndrome. ""

No, I think it's more of "cash rich" MS. They freecash is more than enough to buy almost anycompany outright.

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jshurstOct 18, 2006 - 9:31 AMedited

Agreed, I don't see any Microsoft commercialsbashing Apple, but I do see Apple commercialsbashing Microsoft every time I turn on the TV.

How about just make a better product and then letme decide what I want to use? I'd give it a shot if Icould use my existing hardware.

I guess by their logic the person who wrote thevirus shouldn't be at fault either...

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kholdstareOct 18, 2006 - 11:31AM

dud what are you smokin? the apple commercialsbashing MS? all the apple comercials are sayingPC. do they mention any apps that windows uses.umm don't think so. geez too many kids on thisform. betanews is turning into a daycare center

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GS5Oct 18, 2006 - 12:14 PMedited

So everyone's pissed because M$ is successfuland has enough money to buy the world 10 timesover??? The whole point of having a business is tomake money. 90% of companies out there havequestionable business practices, M$ more thatmost but anyway. The other 10% will eventually beacquired by the 90%. Business is like poker, themore chips you have the more you can bluff andthe more you can bully your competitors. And BillGates was a hell of a poker player. In the 80'sApple was just as bad, they did lots underhandedthings to get ahead. It turns out that M$ was justbetter at it.

My point is, they are all scum.

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Heero

Oct 18, 2006 - 5:51PM

They make direct references...

If you want a prime example, look at the 'ILive' Vs.'I've got a calculator' ad.

Apple takes every chance it gets to bash MS. Notthat MS doesn't deserve it... But if MS started doing

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wincement

Oct 17, 2006 - 7:12 PMedited

That's a lot of nice PR stuff, but how did the virus

get on the devices in the first place? Is themanufacturing plant using "insecure" Windowsmachines which got infected and passed the viruson?

If so, I hope I'm not the only one who sees a

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the same thing back, the Apple cult would crybloddy murder.

massive amount of irony in that.

crashoverrideOct 17, 2006 - 6:18 PMedited

Apple: See, we told you Windows is less securethan Mac OS.

Gotta wonder who got fired over this.

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school1012Oct 17, 2006 - 8:09PM

It would be interesting if Apples macs were infected(storing the virus) and it oops copied onto severaliPods

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Paul SkinnerOct 17, 2006 - 5:38PM

"The company also took the opportunity to blastMicrosoft's Windows operating system for not doingmore to protect customers from such malware."

Protecting themselves from apple? Do Apple reallywant Microsoft to turn on the offensive against theiPod? Quite easily they could withdraw access toiPods on the basis of security.

It even sounds like Apple *want* security vendorsto class their product as malware carrying devices.

Maybe the Zune should come as standard with MacViruses.

I would like to point out that I would like an iPod,and they are actually good, cheap technology, butthe c***iness of Apple is so baffling it is untrue.I can't help feel that they're in for a fall.

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foxfyreOct 17, 2006 - 7:25PM

"Do Apple really want"

Not only do Windows folks need to fear VIRUSES,but we all need to deal with your poor grammar.

Protecting themselves from Apple. That is clever.

But perhaps that is why Windows folks have the

plethora of VIRUSES to worry about! ...And Macusers don't!

Bottom line after all of your whining:Windows users need to be ever vigilent againstviruses, while Mac users need worry much less.

Deal with it!And try to stay awake during class. You mightcome dangerously close to learning something.

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terminalxOct 17, 2006 - 7:46 PMedited

he used do instead of does...you really arestretching here to make a point...as has been saidmore times then anyone can count apple has asmall amount of marketshare and no one caresabout trying to hack mac.. "ohhh I hacked a mac all3 people that are using them"...mac releases tonsof security updates as well its not just windows...thepoint is a device that is considered to be safe

brought a virus to its users...it was there onpurchase...the user didnt even have to do anythingother then connecting it

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school1012Oct 17, 2006 - 8:12PM

So true. The first time I used OSX I was able tohack it in 15 minutes. I was very suprised since somany people say they are hard to hack.

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And try to stay awake during class. You might come dangerously close to learning something.

Have people said things like that alot to you in yourlife? You seem to have an affinity for that style aphrase.

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Tenoq

Oct 17, 2006 - 9:41PM

That's a brilliant idea. Why not shutout the mostsuccessful MP3 player in the market, so peoplehave to buy a Mac to use it?

Damn, why didn't I think of that!

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Tenoq

Oct 17, 2006 - 9:42PM

Define: hack.

A Windows machine takes about 15 seconds toremove Administrator passwords. :P

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Silentmaster101Oct 18, 2006 - 8:18AM

you mean maybe mac os people should try creatingtheir own os instead of stealing a version of linux touse as their core?

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Silentmaster101Oct 18, 2006 - 1:57PM

whats more expensive buying a new mac to go withthat ipod, or returning the ipod and buying a newmp3 player? i think the later makes more sense.

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school1012Oct 18, 2006 - 5:06PM

Hack, clear OSX passwords and delete all systemfiles without a reboot. THe next time the user trys toboot. How about faking and adding advertisment inApple error report screen :)

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The only person I see whining is you. Score: 0

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Mark GillespieOct 18, 2006 - 1:32 PMedited

Suprised nobody has found a way to blame this on

Sony...

Sending actual viruses on iPods is much worsethan harmless rootkits, which shipped on a fewthousands CD's

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erm... they run on Sony Batteries?

Therefore since they can't run without batteries theycouldn't spread the virus because they couldn'tswitch on?

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people.

That outlandish enough for you?HeeroOct 17, 2006 - 5:49PM

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GalwayOct 17, 2006 - 6:00PM

apparently ... the laptop used to scan for viralthreats and quality control was scrapped off thefloor in a molten mess. Not even the safty flaw ofhaving numerous laptops from various big namesincluding there own to check in parrallel was safefrom this melting issue.

hehe .. well you did ask.

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templar™Oct 17, 2006 - 9:41PM

The Sony battery which the laptop ran on failed toignite in time. Thus allowing the virus to spread.

There.

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You know... Thinking about it.

It really wasn't MS fault for not protecting theircustomer, but rather Apple's fault for not makingsure that Apple's consumers wouldn't fall victim tosomething like this.

Why isn't Apple making sure that their product areup to specs?

First melting laptops, then random shutdowns, andnow viruses... Wonderfull quality control there guys.

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Oct 17, 2006 - 5:42PM

Their quality control has always been 'interesting' tosay the least.

The first few versions of any new product arealways something to steer clear of, but this justadds to the intrigue.

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HeeroOct 17, 2006 - 5:49PM

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GalwayOct 17, 2006 - 4:26PM

"The company also took the opportunity to blastMicrosoft's Windows operating system for not doingmore to protect customers from such malware."

LOL and what more could THEY have done toprotect THERE customers ... Virus scan? Qualitycontrol?

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GS5Oct 17, 2006 - 7:35PM

Hey, if they were using a symantec antivirus tons ofviruses could have made their way into the ipod'sos. LMAO

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GalwayOct 18, 2006 - 3:17AM

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Hey, you build a Windows image and you are likelyto encounter a virus! Thats life in the world ofWindows. What, so Apple missed the latest (ofHOW many has it been now?? - I would LOVE tosee the figure!!!) round of MS patches...

Why should Apple be any more successful inavoiding WINDOWS viruses than MS and the restof the victims... I mean users... no, I was right thefirst time, who use Windows?

Enjoy!!! Its Windows! And Windows users Lovetheir viruses! An inseparable combination. Its partand parcel of the "Windows Experience"!

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Oct 17, 2006 - 4:29 PMedited

Hypocrite.

You will probably respond with how your overpunctuated, MySpace typical, hypocritical postingsare in spite of others, similar to Apple.

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Grazer

Oct 17, 2006 - 4:48PM

None of my computers have ever been infected

with a virus, they all have run Windows operatingsystems, all have spent long hours with an alwayson broadband connection. Actually, I have onlyeven encountered viruses about 3 times...ever.Why? Because I get updates regularly, stay awayfrom the the dark alleys of the internet (or at leastcarry protection in the form of security utils when Ido), and stay behind a router. If I ever decided touse a mac, I would do the same...because in mypersonal use, Windows viruses are not any morecommon than Mac ones.

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Paul Skinner

Oct 17, 2006 - 5:55PM

How could I guess your clumsy ham-fisted

approach to a comment would be here at aWindows/Mac story.

Got nothing better to do?

Quality Control doesn't seem to be your strongpointeither.

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foxfyreOct 17, 2006 - 7:19 PMedited

Well, You've heard it here.

The rumors of Windows viruses and the need forpatches is all an illusion.

"Windows viruses are not any more common thanMac ones."

So, in your extremely limited exposurte to the Netyou have encountered ONLY 3 viruses.

Compare that the Mac servers running 24/7 on the

Net that have not had any viruses!So by your limited experience, Windows only has a300% greater chance of encountering a virus thana Mac.

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"Windows viruses are not any more common thanMac ones."

You might want to pay more attention in math class.

Hmmm. At least two companies have failed tosuccessfully market a commercial Mac Anti-Virusproduct! Not because they didn't work, but becausethere is no market!

Try running Windows without anti-virus!


Read a history book lately?

Or are you too afraid to be monitored by thecommonplace video surveillance in the land of thesocialism as you fear coming to the US because

the extent of their overreaching social surveillanceis to want a small scattering of personal info?

Oh, I guess you are upset that the US didn't askyou for permission to establish their ownrequirements! After all, Europe has done such aGrand job over the last century of insuring civilrights and freedom. In which country is thegenocide this month?

If only we had known it would only take that to keepgeniuses like you out, we should have implimentedit sooner! You see! Its amazingly effective!

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You know, your tirade may have had a point if youdidn't omit a very important part of the statementyou jumped on "in my personal use, Windowsviruses are not any more common than Mac ones."

But apparently, you cannot understand thatcomplex of a statement. Is Apple keeping things toosimple?


Really? 3 is 300% more than 0? I guess I should've.

You wanna see selective quoting?Hmmm. At least two companies have failed to successfully market a commercial Mac product! Not because they didn't work, but because there is no market!

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blendarOct 17, 2006 - 8:16PM

In all honesty, I ran without anti-virus software forwell over a year and did just fine without it. Mycomputer is in perfect shape and there were noproblems. The only reason I'm running anti-virusright now is because of my university requiring it foraccess to the network.

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what does your inane comment have to do withapple shipping a windows virus?

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It was a reply to his comment about my comment.But as you obviously, by your own admission, haveno clue, your ignorance only makes you stupid.

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No genius, the problem is that you haveextrapolated your personal experience to makesome kind of broad statement about the risk ofviruses in the Windows marketplace. Somethingeven Microsoft disagrees with.

And even you went from no threat to at least 3more occurances than on a Mac. Sorry the math isso complex. Maybe you can practice as you tallyyour Holloween candy after your mom has it xrayedfor the terrible threats espoused in the urban mythsthat you evidently believe in.

...Like Windows viruses....just an urban myth.

Is MS overly paranoid?

So much angst from those who claim to have nointerest in other platforms and especially about onethey say doesn't even matter.

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Poor baby...

I am sure you meant to include meaning in theresomeplace.

I think the entire platform debate is absurd, just likethe your high school rationale.

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THZGryphonOct 17, 2006 - 9:40PM

Nice try at an intelligent come back. Almost twistedit enough to worm your way out of looking like achild.

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THZGryphonOct 17, 2006 - 9:43PM

"So much angst from those who claim to have nointerest in other platforms and especially about onethey say doesn't even matter."

Keep repeating it, maybe people will ignore yourangst.

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But not you genius!!!

It is so easy to push the buttons of the Windowsfolks who are so preoccupied with a machine theythemselves claim is insignificant. And it is hilariousto watch those who say a company is so bad thatthey would never buy their products. As if they

actually walked their talk, any issue of a IPodinfecting their easily infected system would bemoot.

But I am sure the whine of the folks trying to

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HeeroOct 18, 2006 - 12:11AM

Well... Look at this way.

There was a virus found for Windows computers...The fault has been confirmed.

If the fault had been found for Macs, Apple wouldhave claimed it never existed, and patched in the

next ITunes Update, and hope that no one notices.Then when asked about it later, still deny, deny,deny.

The issue at hand is not that Windows has security

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convince themselves that Windows doesn't have aMAJOR security issue will keep trying to make theirOS more secure by saying that other OSes canoccasionally fall subject to the same thing thattheir's does. As if saying that someone else cancatch a cold makes you healthier! Hahaha!

So remind us again, How many thousands ofunique real world viruses exist for Windows eachyear????

issues.. Does everyone know this, Yeah, prettymuch. Some have better luck or are better usersthen others.

But at the same time, I have seen OSX WiFinetworks hacked, Botnet setup on OSX desktops,bad programs that totally takes apart a OSX systemand forces an reinstall. I've seen it all.

It's not a security issue, it never has been... It's afact that Apple blames another company for theirscrew up. If a car maker builds a car, and puts infaulty bumper and the car gets into a crash and thebumper fails and the driver dies, who do you thinkwill be blamed? You think the driver will get theheat because they got hit and killed? Or the carmaker for messing up the bumper?

When the whole Mac-Book WiFi threat came out,Apple denied, then blamed Intel, then blamedMicrosoft, and quietly patched it. This is not the first(and probably won't be the last) time that Apple hasstepped aside and passed the blame ontosomeone else, when they were responsible.

As a final point; if Apple wasn't at fault, why did theyapologize? Why say your sorry if you didn't doanything wrong? It's another "makes us look goodand make them look bad" tactic, which is the onlything that seems to be working for them lately. See'Get A Mac Ads'.

Honestly man, get your head out of the grown andlook around. Apple is doing the same thing MS didin the past to get ahead. It's the best way to getbusiness... scare people away from the competitor.How do you think elections work? Huh?

I hope this settles this: Which is better OSX Vs.Windows. They both have their ups, they both havetheir downs. Just leave at that guys, come on.


Apple this Apple that Apple this Apple thatFair and unbiased.

And the Intel Wi-Fi chip was hacked on theCOMMON PC platforms! When the story broke, thehackers pointed out that it was a problem commonto the Wi-Fi chipset, not a particular OS platform.How did it gain traction? Did you see any WindowsWiFi hacked? Would they have even gottencovereage with that claim or would it havebeen lostin the noise floor of Windows problems? We allknow the answer to that! Can't deal with the factthat Mac is just a PC? What distinguished Apple isthat they have been the only manufacturer to offera patch that addressed the hardware/firmware

issue at the OS level. Another major manufacturerhas failed to effectively address it in any form.

No one debated whether a virus was present asyou try to argue with your if Apple blah blah blah.Funny, the story said that. No one denied it. Andsaying that the threats persist due to OSshortcomings neither deflects Apple's responsibilitynor the fact that the assertion is true. Oh, and your'no one sues a hardware manufacturer' in your caranalogy is utterly bogguss. Ask Ford with the"Explorer episode" - funny, you don't hear itreferred to as the "Firestone episode"! Opps!

While I cannot say that shipping any product with avirus is good, this is not the first time this has beendone! ...including by MS! But one could argue that itwould have been worse if Apple shipped a virus forits own platform.

"Its never been a security issue" - great, if that ishow the MS fanboys want to spin it! It has always -from the mid 80's, been an emotional issue wherePC people have felt the need to say their OS wasas good as the Mac. Including MS's original attempt

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Paul SkinnerOct 18, 2006 - 5:29 AMedited

You're perminantley pissed off, aren't you.

Calm down or get out.

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to license it.

It continued through the Windows 95 rollout wherethey went to great lengths to present it as good asthe Mac, as they amazing discovered a GUI; and itcontinues now with Vista.

Oh, and the whine about Mac ads pointing outproblems with Windows - you sound like thepolitician getting his posterior handed to him whosays Why deal with issues! That is sooooonegative! Pay no attention to that man behind thecurtain! Let's just talk about how everything is rosesrainbows and puppydogs. If the ads are working itsbecause too many relate to the points that aremaking!

People who are not threatened by something donot continue to worry and fret over it. Nor do therespond with hate. The appropriate response isindifference. And there are far more Windows folkswhining here than from ANY other platform. Andthere are some Mac fanboys as well - only they arefar fewer in number!

But there is no sign of indifference in the Windowscrowd, especially as the Mac also does Windowsand the platform is the latest incarnation of the Intelroadmap, up to and including the Intel nextgeneration EFI bios. So...why are you still whining?Threatened by the choice or concurrent use ofseveral OSes? It would seem to me that such achoice expands opportunity and should bewelcomed by all. But that is a Fascinating phobiayou have there!

Why do Windows users care at all about OSX?

Talk about Windows and the marvelous pristine MSwhom everyone loves. You have your hands full.And the Mac does Windows! I thought that was agood thing...

Funny, I live in the AIX world...and we routinely runsystems of MUCH greater complexity. And oursecurity concerned go far beyond what Windowshas dreamed of doing. We are targets foreverything from national security secrets to majorcommercial databases. Funny, but we're not havingthe problems another major vendor is having. Andwe are a MUCH larger target offering a MUCHmore valuable prize! But you are right, for us andothers, the primary concern is not OS security;rather the focus on security is on other aspects ofthe distributed systems. And yet I don't hear myriadcomplaints here between zealots of the variousdatabases and their exposures...

To me, the advantage of the Mac is that it supportsthe most POSIX compliant version of UNIX on themarket, and with its Windows and UNIX filecompatibility it can communicate seamlesslybetween the different worlds...and run Windowsand the various Linux and BSD variants. Windowscannot do that. So the Mac offers functionalityabove what a Windows or Linux/BSD box, whereneither can natively communicate with the other,offers. Its a tool that offers increased functionality. Idon't waste time debating whether my pliers or myscrewdrivers are more valuable. I use the one bestfor the job. And the choice is good. And the marketstats show that many are opting for that increasedfunctionality. Period.

I am very tired of listening to the high level noisefloor of ignorant Windows users whine that choiceis bad.

So, if its not an issue, why do the Windows peopleinvariably show up by the busloads to whine? In allof the threads! And despite Windows owning thebulk of market share! If functionality and securityaren't issues, what is? You only wish you could


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maybe if there were enough people using macsthen they might be able to find all its bugs. greateruse leads to finding greater problems. the majorityof windows problems are introduced by 3rd partysoftware that was programmed badly. andmicrosoft makes patches to fix those holes too.

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Intrusive_RogueOct 18, 2006 - 9:04AM

Wow, that was so long I didn't even bother to readit. Way to get your point across.

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GCoderOct 18, 2006 - 11:54AM

EXACTLY.

ENJOY WINDOWS USERS.

HAVE FUN.

(ignoring windoze trolls like below ••••••••)

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GrazerOct 18, 2006 - 12:45PM

...you have extrapolated your personal experience to make some kind of broad statement about the risk of viruses in the Windows marketplace

I don't recall saying a thing about the Windowsmarketplace. I was merely pointing out that, withproper precautions and safe practices, Windows isno less safe than a mac. (But I am sure you willleave off the middle of that sentence in yourresponse.)

Sorry the math is so complex.You still haven't told me how 3 is 300% more than0. I can't even do that with calculus or linearalgebra. (Well, maybe with linear algebra; but mostlikely only in a higher dimension.)

So much angst from those who claim to have no interest in other platforms and especially about one they say doesn't even matter. It's not the Mac platform I have an issue with, it isthe obnoxious condescension and undeservedsmugness of its creators and some of its users.

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GrazerOct 18, 2006 - 1:00 PMedited

People who are not threatened by something do not continue to worry and fret over it. Nor do the respond with hate. The appropriate response is indifference. [...] So...why are you still whining? Take a look at that again.

And yet I don't hear myriad complaints here between zealots of the various databases and their exposures...This is a thread about an Apple product carrying aWindows virus. Why would we be talking aboutdatabases?

I am very tired of listening to the high level noise floor of ignorant Windows users whine that choice is bad.You must have voices in your head because I havenot heard any Windows users claim choice is bad.If anyone is against choice it is Apple, with theirlock-in iPod tactics and prevention of OSX from

running on non-Mac hardware.

Overall, you almost managed to hide your bias infavor of Apple, but you keep projecting Mac-zealotattitudes onto Windows users.

If functionality and security aren't issues, what is? You only wish you could ignore the elephant in the room. Knowledgeable Windows users know andacknowledge there are security issues...withanything, and take the necessary securitymeasures to protect themselves. It is the Maczealot who normally claims absolute safety,ignoring the "elephant in the room".

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HeeroOct 18, 2006 - 6:05PM

Never said I was a dedicated Windows users...

Like you, I use the right tool, for the job. I work inthe music production world, thats what I do. When Igo into a studio, I use the G5 hooked up theProTools board, and work. When I'm at home I usemy Linux box to surf the net, do my mail, and poston BetaNews.

When I want to play games I boot up Windows, andplay, thats about it.

And if Apple TRUELY wanted to get everyonerunning in a wonderfull world of 'OSX' then theywould make it avaiable for all platforms, rather thengetting people stuck with their own hardware.

Look around man, there is far more out there thenwhat Steve Jobs tells you.

OSX = UnixWe all know this.

Mac = x86 bassed systemWe all know this.

Mac = IDE/SATA hardwareWe all know this.

So at the end of the day you are running a PC, itjust has a preatty GUI on it.

As a side step, MS had a GUI before Win95, I stillremember Windows 2.

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wincementOct 18, 2006 - 10:40 PMedited


You might have wanted to pay more attention inyour 4th grade math class. Or are you still in 3rd

grade?

3 to 0 != 300%

3 to 1 == 300%

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Intrusive_RogueOct 17, 2006 - 4:16 PMedited

Nice Work.

You know this had to be one smart Arse employeejust having a good laugh.

Does this mean that Microsoft can sue Apple fordistributing code that has malicious intent, or canthe Govt slap a fine on them and shut down theiropperation? lol.

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Hahahaha!

Just exactly how does one tell if Windows has avirus? Does it act any differently?

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Yeah, it beats a mac in most benchmarks. ;P Score: 0

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ONLY again emulated software!With native software it gets smoked! Even with theold G5 machines!

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HeeroOct 17, 2006 - 10:33PM

I dunno man...

I'd like to see a G5 hold it's own against theOpterons, considering the Opteron out perform theXeon Chips that are in the new Mac Pros, whichthey claim out performs the old G5s. So what doesthat say?

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Thats the funny thing about Apple's claims aboutMacs being faster than Windows machines. If youfollow quotes from Jobs and the gang, Macs mustbe 10x faster than comparable Windows machines.IIRC he was claiming the last of the PowerPCmodels were twice as fast as the current x86's.Then, when they switched to x86, he was claimingthe MacIntels would be five times faster than theirPowerPC predecessors.

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glock__17Oct 18, 2006 - 9:31PM

LOL.. who cares if Macs are faster... wow look atthat spreadsheet fly!!! The visibile difference inCPU performance is practically nil in typicaluseage. Real Benchmarking is typically used to testgraphical performance... for use in GAMES. Since

Macs are junk when it comes to gaming (zippo)CPU/Graphic benchmarking in MACs is a waste oftime. MACS make great foot-rests though!

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jbaltz69Oct 17, 2006 - 4:05PM

Wow, does this sound suspicious or what? Wehave a virus on our iPods and then we blameWindows for not protecting its customers?Something smells fishy here...

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bbommaritoOct 17, 2006 - 4:07PM

I agree with that, does sound fishy.

However, let's say it's all legit. How manycomplaints over this did they just push awaythinking it was a user that didn't know how toprotect themselves? I would be curious how longthis took to realize.

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What is the sound of something fishy?

Some light floundering noises?

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minus_seven_foldOct 17, 2006 - 3:46PM

Good quailty control! Score: 0

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Oct 17, 2006 - 3:40PM

MAC OSX is so unpopular that no hacker woulddare waste a coffee break creating a virus that onlyaffects less than 1% of the world's personalcomputers so Apple gets c***y and blames MS fortheir own ineptness. Typical.

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Spoken with authority by a prepubescent lad who

dresses up like a comic book character...

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The documented facts are that Mac and OSX is

growing at over 15% year (as of 2005)....howexactly is this "unpopular"?

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xyzcb1Oct 17, 2006 - 5:00PM

3% market growth 15% is less than 3.5%

how is it consider popular?

Is like claiming my one man club growing 100%year after year

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MacOS useage is on the decline. Perhaps youneed to review your news sources...

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Let's see...

They are not aware of benchmarks desite theirrepeatdly being published during the last year...

They maintain the Mac has been losing marketshare since the switch to Intel...

And to think that some poor disgruntled Windowsgenius couldn't write a real world virus for the Mac...after all the training they have had on their nativeplatform. Besides, as we keep being told, it is

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GrazerOct 17, 2006 - 8:22 PMedited

They are not aware of benchmarks desite their repeatdly being published during the last year... Links, or can you not actually find a benchmark thatdoesn't make emulation excuses?

They maintain the Mac has been losing market share since the switch to Intel

Speaking of which...if Mac was superior in allthings, why did they switch to Intel?

And to think that some poor disgruntled Windows genius couldn't write a real world virus for the Mac...

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SOOOO easy!

Then do it!

Oh, but like every other incorrect point above, thatwould mean they would have to stop playing withthemselves as they manipulate their iPod andactually do something except whine.

What high school do these geniuses attend?

after all the training they have had on their native platform. It is probably more that they have better things todo...and it is hard to spread a virus in a sparsepopulation.

Oh, but like every other incorrect point above... You realize you proved/disproved nothing, don'tyou?

What high school do these geniuses attend? Probably not the one you dropped out of.


They maintain the Mac has been losing marketshare since the switch to Intel Speaking of which...ifMac was superior in all things, why did they switchto Intel?

Because they are a relatively cheap, plentifulcommodity. Are you even aware of what thePower5 and forthcoming Power6 generation ofcpus are capable of? IBM is out of the desktopbuisiness. But then Apple lives in the real world ofmarket economics and not in your high schoolworld crying over the latest file sharing site shuttingdown.

It is probably more that they have better things todo...and it is hard to spread a virus in a sparsepopulation.

Ewwww! A good comeback by someone whocannot cite a single incident! So no one even hastime nor the interest to write a Mac virus - justuniversity researchers in a lab...All the more reasonto run a version of UNIX instead of Windows. But itseems to me that allot of folks have been doing

that...Now tell us MS isn't worried about that!

But let's make use of your prodigious math skills.Let's see...we have heard that Mac's 15% laptopmarket share is insignificant. OK.And now you fall over yourselves over 25 incidentsof a virus infecting a Windows boxes out of howmany millions of Windows boxes...Let's see, would your math put that at less than orgreater than an insignificant 15%. My estimate isthat it is substantially less than an insignificant15%. Yet you are soooooo worried...But you don'tcare about that trivial alternative PC platform thatcan run Windows as well as a plethora of otherOSes.

Yep, you have your pathological priorities in order!

So Macs are insignificant. Doesn't bother me. WhatIS hilarious is the pathological obsession of so

many for something they claim doesn't matter. ;-)

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terminalxOct 18, 2006 - 11:08 AMedited

all your mindless babbling is just flaming...you dontprovide much in the way of information rather thenbeing a troll and praising Apple above all...what isfunny is Apple knows windows isnt going anywhere

anytime soon...why else would they havebootcamp...you still have to buy a legit version ofthe os to run it... so whos really losing?...and onemore time with feeling why should someonesuspect a device they just BOUGHT has a BUILTIN virus..regardless whether windows wasprotected or not...it is STILL Apple's fault...virusesdont just appear on peoples pcs out of nowherethey must do or not do something for this tohappen...hence why this IS apple's fault...spin itanyway you want but the fact remains it was on adevice that was brand new and hence consideredto be safe and untampered with...

edited for content...thank you have a nice day

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This ENTIRE thread has consisted simply ofwhining and attacks against Apple. The same BSthat recurs with each thread mentioning Apple.

Nowhere has there been any information offered byanyone regarding the iPod - just partison rants fromboth sides - but by far the majority are fromWindows bigots who think they can make their OSmore secure by attacking others!

Where is a semblance of a market analysis in anyrecent thread? Where is an intelligible technicalanalysis in any thread? Instead all we routinelyencounter is the partison rants who tear down theirwhat others use. And the fact is that what othersuse doesn't mean sh!t to a tree!

And it is so easy to stomp on the ant hill and have

all of you very intelligent pre-cambrian haploidsrunning about looking for someone to attack!

Personally, I don't care which OS you use. Use theone that suits your needs. But this insane idea that

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Windows is more secure than any other alternativeOS is absurd!

So - please - issue another idiotic partison rant.

Oh, and to examine one of YOUR claims:

"it is STILL macs fault...viruses dont just appear onpeoples pcs out of nowhere they must do or not dosomething for this to happen"

First of all, it is not "Macs" fault. The company isApple and the product is an iPod. Oh... So, Appleintentionally wrote the virus?? Yes/No? If not, hasanyone tried to posit a reasonable vector by whichthey acquired it? (Are you kidding!?) So, by whatvector do you think they acquired it, or is it an Apple

branded virus for Windows?

But why should any of the rocket scientists hereattempt to have an intelligent discussionindependent of your own personal emotionhangups. Heaven forbid, THAT might establish atrend and come dangerously close to makingsense!

Why don't you examine how Apple may havepicked this virus up like anyone else can? Not oneperson has examined the likely vectors or treatedthis in a manner befitting a security forensicanalysis - all we get are your and the othersemotional rants.

You want to talk intelligently about reasonablevectors and perhaps learn something - I'll wait tosee it to believe it! But, if you want to simplycontinue the SOP of running amuck playing

partison games, I'll just have fun stomping on theant hill and watching you idiots run amuck.

MurphmeisterOct 18, 2006 - 9:34 AMedited

It's funny when foxfyre uses words like'partison' [sic] and 'pre-cambrian'. They are sobadly out of place it ruins any chance people had ofreading the post without dismissing it as a 16 yearold's rant.

Apple are completely at fault for allowing a virusinto their iPod. Completely.

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terminalxOct 18, 2006 - 11:07AM

uh well genius the reason for the attacks againstApple is THEIR product brought the virus toWindows users...and Windows has never shippedwith a virus...if you are trying to blame the blasterworm...MS patched it a month before the epidemichit...it goes to show that people dont keep theirsystems up to date....Apple is always releasingpatches itself...not one person ever claimed MS ismore secure you are pulling things out of thin air...everyone knows Windows has more vulnerabilitiesbut the fact is it does everything at a cheaper costand its not necessary to buy a brand new machinewhen yours becomes obsolete rather thenupgrading the components...I guess if you arehappy with a store bought system more power toyou...theres nothing wrong with apple or mac otherthen its smugness

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Because [x86 chips] are a relatively cheap, plentiful commodity. Oh, that is why Apple claims their MacIntels arefaster, because they are cheaper. That makesperfect sense.

A good comeback by someone who cannot cite a single incident! You need an incident to prove a simple principle ofvirus dispersement?

So Macs are insignificant. Doesn't bother me. Your posts would indicate otherwise.

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You're perhaps claiming that Gartner, IDC and nowtoday's WSJ reporting Apple's earnings are allwrong?

I don't think so!

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From today's (Oct 18th, 2006) Wall St. JournalEarnings report:

APPLE'S NET JUMPED 27% amid strong sales ofiPod players and Macintosh computers. Revenuerose 32% to $4.84 billion.

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USAGE and REVENUE are different things.Perhaps they are making more money from Itunesor other buisness units.

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bbommaritoOct 17, 2006 - 3:24PM

Why does this sound like a marketing ploy?

"You see, you got that virus because you runWindows...OSX does not get such viruses. You are

safer with OSX."

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GCoderOct 17, 2006 - 3:36 PMedited

It was me.

I sabotaged the iPods.

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It's not hard to "Sabotage" The iPod. Just let thembe used. They do it themselves.

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HeeroOct 17, 2006 - 3:18PM

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peter4654Oct 18, 2006 - 5:43AM

Is it me, or is it just coincidence. Just as Appledecide to let people boot M$ sh*t on their Macs, it'siPod gets a virus. Windows was made for theworld's idiots. That's why they have 95% of themarket. Macs are for the intelligent few. Let's keepit that way.

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MurphmeisterOct 18, 2006 - 6:28AM

You and the 1.8% can continue to enjoy theamazing array of 26 applications made for theMacintosh.

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Macs are for people who would like to believe theyare untouchable....macs may be safe from viruses

and malware but its still not safe from stupidity, noteveryone that has a mac is intelligent...

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not everyone that has a mac is intelligent... Shhhh, your ruining mac's marketing. Don't youknow? Buying a mac makes you smart.

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Yup...And they all suck. Score: 0

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