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A P P E A R A N C E S
The Sole Member: His Honour Judge Peter Smithwick
For the Tribunal: Mrs. Mary Laverty, SCMr. Justin Dillon, SCMr. Dara Hayes, BLMr. Fintan Valentine, BL
Instructed by: Jane McKevitt
Solicitor
For the Commissioner of An Garda Siochana: Mr. Diarmuid McGuinness, SC
Mr. Michael Durack, SCMr. Gareth Baker, BL
Instructed by: Mary CumminsCSSO
For Owen Corrigan: Mr. Jim O'Callaghan, SCMr. Darren Lehane, BL
Instructed by: Fintan Lawlor Lawlor Partners Solicitors
For Leo Colton: Mr. Paul Callan, SCMr. Eamon Coffey, BL
Instructed by: Dermot Lavery Solicitors
For Finbarr Hickey: Fionnuala O'Sullivan, BL
Instructed by: James MacGuill & Co.
For the Attorney General: Ms. Nuala Butler, SCMr. Douglas Clarke, SC
Instructed by: CSSO
For Freddie Scappaticci: Eavanna Fitzgerald, BLPauline O'Hare
Instructed by: Michael FlaniganSolicitor
For Kevin Fulton: Mr. Neil Rafferty, QC
Instructed by: John McAtamneySolicitor
For Breen Family: Mr. John McBurney
For Buchanan Family/Heather Currie: Ernie Waterworth
McCartan Turkington BreenSolicitors
For the PSNI: Mark Robinson, BL
NOTICE: A WORD INDEX IS PROVIDED AT THE BACK OF THIS TRANSCRIPT. THIS IS A USEFUL INDEXING SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO QUICKLY SEE THE WORDS USED IN THE TRANSCRIPT, WHERE THEY OCCUR AND HOW OFTEN.
EXAMPLE: - DOYLE [2] 30:28 45:17
THE WORD “DOYLE” OCCURS TWICEPAGE 30, LINE 28PAGE 45, LINE 17
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Witness Page No. Line No.
DAN PRENTY
EXAMINED BY MR. DILLON 2 1
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. McGUINNESS 26 10
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. O'CALLAGHAN 31 5
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. RAFFERTY 54 29
MICHAEL McGILL
EXAMINED BY MR. VALENTINE 62 1
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. COFFEY 79 11
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. RAFFERTY 84 14
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. LEHANE 88 8
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THE TRIBUNAL RESUMED ON THE 22ND JUNE, 2012, AS FOLLOWS:
MR. DILLON: Morning, Chairman. Apologies for the delay.
It was due to the unexpected emergence of a document, which
I will mention when dealing with evidence to be given by
Mr. Prenty. We have two witnesses for you today. The
first is Mr. Dan Prenty and the second is a Mr. Michael
McGill. Mr. McGill can't be here before twelve o'clock,
so, if we finish with Mr. Prenty before then, I'll have to
ask you to rise until twelve o'clock.
CHAIRMAN: Certainly, yes.
MR. DILLON: So, Dan Prenty, please.
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DAN PRENTY, HAVING BEEN SWORN, WAS EXAMINED BY MR. DILLON
AS FOLLOWS:
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr. Prenty, for coming back
again at short notice.
A. Thank you.
MR. DILLON: Now Chairman, there are two topics that I will
ask Mr. Prenty to deal with. The first is the matter of
the escort for Peter Robinson. That's a matter in respect
of which Mr. Prenty has provided a statement. The second
matter is the issue of the McAnulty kidnapping and the
reports prepared after that. The parties have been
notified that this subject is to be brought up. Mr. Prenty
has not made a statement on the matter, and, indeed, as it
happens, any statement he might have made has been
overtaken slightly by this recent development this morning
when a new document came to light. Now, this new document
is a further C77 provided by Mr. Corrigan, which -- the
existence of which was unknown to Garda Headquarters. We
understand it was unearthed in Drogheda. Unfortunately,
the copy which the guards have is virtually illegible, and
they are going to try to produce -- either find a better
copy or, using the rather poor copy, produce a précis,
because, in fairness to Mr. Corrigan, a précis of that
document should be produced and put in evidence. So they
are the two matters that I'll be asking Mr. Prenty about
today.
And the first matter I'll deal with is the escort of Peter
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Robinson. If Mr. Mills could put that up on the screen.
Now, the first set of documents are documents which have
been gleaned from a website -- sorry, the first set of
dates - I did say documents, and my apologies - the first
set of dates are dates that have been gleaned from a
website. Below the line are dates that have been provided
to the Tribunal by the Courts Service. So the sequence of
events appears to be that:
On the 7th of August, 1986, Mr. Robinson and other engaged
in a protest against the Anglo-Irish Agreement in
Clontibret, County Monaghan. The 14th August, 1986, there
were clashes outside Dundalk courthouse at appearance -- I
presume that's the appearance of Mr. Robinson. Then, on
the 2nd of October, bail was set in the sum stated there.
And on the 18th November, the proceedings were returned to
the Special Criminal Court for the 13th January, 1987. Now
the following dates are taken from the information provided
by the Courts Service. On the 13th January, 1987,
Mr. Robinson appeared at the Special Criminal Court, as it
then was in Green Street. He appeared again on the 14th
January, 1987, on the 15th January, 1987, and ultimately
his case was disposed of on the 16th January, 1987, by the
imposition of a fine.
So, they are the dates that need to be borne in mind when
considering what Mr. Prenty has to offer you.
Now, Mr. Mills, if you could take book 104, at page 70.
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Now, page 70, starting at question 258:
"Question: What I have to put to you is this: You
recall you mentioned to the Chairman that you had
provided escort services or duties to Peter
Robinson?
Answer: Yes.
Question: When you came to the Special Criminal
Court?
Answer: That's right.
Question: I think that was arising out of matters
that occurred in Clontibret?
Answer: That's right, yes.
Question: And you escorted him to and from, is that
right?
Answer: I don't know about to. All I can remember
is passing through Drogheda and him getting stuck in
snow and ice --
Question: His car, rather?
Answer: Yes.
Question: So that was the extent of your
involvement then in escorting Peter Robinson?
Answer: I don't understand your question.
Question: You mentioned to the Chairman that you
were involved in the matter of Peter Robinson?
Answer: Yes, I was in charge of the escort?
Question: You were in charge of the escort?
Answer: Yes.
Question: So you were in charge of the escort taking
him from the border?
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Answer: To the Special Criminal Court.
Question: And back up again, is that right?
Answer: I don't know. I can't recall coming back
up. All I can tell you is what I can, what I can
remember, and that is all I can state."
Then go down to -- well, I'll carry on.
Question 267:
"Question: Now, this is the point I need to put to
you which arose over lunchtime. Do you remember Dan
Prenty?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Now, Dan Prenty was in communication with
the Tribunal on a completely different matter.
Answer: Yes.
Question: Right. What he said to the Tribunal was
this: that you had nothing to do" -- that's
Mr. Corrigan had nothing to do -- "with the escort of
Peter Robinson.
Answer: Yeah.
Question: Do you agree or disagree?
Answer: I disagree."
Then, I mention it's going to be necessary to call you,
Mr. Prenty.
Now, to put matters in perspective. I think at the time
you were a Detective Inspector in Dundalk Garda Station, is
that correct?
A. That's correct, Judge.
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Q. Do you recall having any involvement in the escort of Peter 1
Robinson, either to or from the Special Criminal Court?
A. Initially --
Q. Sorry, would you speak into the microphone, if you don't 2
mind.
A. At the appearance in Dundalk District Court, is where I
first came in contact with Mr. Robinson and Mr. Paisley.
On the morning they were coming into the court, there was a
large operation, police operation mounted in Dundalk, for
security reasons, and I went to the border with an armed
escort to meet Mr. Paisley and Mr. Robinson. We met them
at the border, told them we would be taking them into
Dundalk courthouse, and we duly escorted them into the
courthouse, and a large crowd gathered outside, and there
was -- tension was very high. Now, I approached
Mr. Paisley in the courthouse and asked him to -- there was
objections being raised to the fact that they had Union
Jacks on their cars, and I asked Mr. Paisley if he would
agree to remove the Union Jacks and he readily agreed to do
so. However, Mr. McCrae, who was with him, objected, and
says, "No, the Union Jacks are staying there". At this
stage, we feared that there could be serious confrontation
if we returned them back through the town, so we decided,
having communicated with the RUC, that we would return them
to the north through County Monaghan, which we duly did.
When we arrived at the border in Monaghan, Mr. Paisley
dismounted from his car and came back to us, thanked us for
the escort and shook hands with us all and hoped that -- he
inquired if there was any trouble in Dundalk, and we told
him there was some trouble. Then, he inquired if anybody
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was injured, and we hold him, no, not that we had heard of.
Eventually, as you stated, he was -- Peter Robinson was
returned for trial to the Special Criminal Court, and I was
responsible for arranging the escort and supervision.
Q. When you say you were responsible for arranging the escort, 3
what does that involve?
A. That involved detailing members of Detective Branch in
Dundalk, going to the border and escorting Mr. Robinson,
Mr. Paisley and his companions. I think there were two
cars.
Q. And what was -- what was the nature of the escort? 4
A. An armed escort.
Q. Were you in Garda cars? 5
A. Yes. Oh, we were in unmarked Garda cars.
Q. And were your cars proceeding and following the cars with 6
Mr. Robinson and Dr. Paisley?
A. As far as I remember, a car arrived from SDU to assist in
the escort, and to lead -- they would be required to lead
us into the Special Criminal Court through traffic.
Q. Now, you mentioned, I think, in relation to the -- in 7
Dundalk courthouse appearance, on that occasion you were
armed, is that right?
A. Oh, everybody was armed, yeah.
Q. And did that apply also on the trip to the Special Criminal 8
Court?
A. Of course, yes.
Q. Very well. What sort of arms did you carry? 9
A. Well, they would be Uzi submachine guns and revolvers.
Q. Very well. And just pause there for a second. What -- how 10
does it come about that a Garda officer is assigned a
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weapon, because, in principle, the force is unarmed, isn't
that right?
A. All Detective Branch members have to qualify in the use of
firearms.
Q. How is that done? 11
A. They have to undergo a course on the firearms range when
they are put through the procedure of dismantling the
weapon, reassembling it and firing so many rounds, and the
way you handle the gun and keep your weapon, all them
things are taken into consideration.
Q. Very well. Now, is the member then issued with a gun 12
certificate, or what happens after that?
A. The instructor issues a qualification, certificate, I don't
know what the nature of it is, but he certifies that
such-and-such a member is qualified to carry a weapon.
Q. We have come across, on Mr. Corrigan's personnel file, a 13
number of these certificates, and if you could help us with
them. As you can see, it's for Detective Sergeant
Corrigan; gives his number, his station, the division, fire
course at Red Barns - is that a nearby range?
A. That's an army firing range in Dundalk.
Q. Very well. It's dated 6/10 -- that's the 6th October, 14
1986. And it seems that - just help us with this - he was
tested for an Uzi, is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And it's described as "basic refresh". I presume "refresh" 15
means a refresher course?
A. Yes. Well, he would have previously undergone --
initially, he would have done a training course, yes.
Q. Yes. So, refresh. And then there is a "finding of 16
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competence," is "yes" or "no," isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And the box "no" is ticked? 17
A. Yes.
Q. Now, I'll come to the next one, which is a Walther pistol. 18
Same entries: "refresh," and the box "no" is ticked. And
it's signed by D.C. Burke, Sergeant. Do you know who D.C.
Burke is, as a matter of interest?
A. I don't, but I assume he was an instructor in the firearms
department.
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make out the name there?
A. Brian Garvey.
Q. Very well. So, what happens now, what is Mr. Corrigan's 20
status following this particular -- the issue of this
certificate? Is he entitled to bear arms?
A. No.
Q. Very well. We'll go on to the next one that we came 21
across, and that is, I think, dated 21/1/1987. And it
seems that there was testing carried out on that date and
up to 28/1/'87. Do you see that there?
A. Yeah, 21 -- yeah.
Q. To 28/1/'87. If you just pause there for a second. Does 22
that mean that Mr. Corrigan was being examined over that
spread of dates? Why is there that spread of dates? Why
isn't it all done on one day, is really what I'm getting
at?
A. I wouldn't be in a position to answer that question.
Q. All right. 23
A. There were different weapons on different dates.
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Q. Okay. That's fine. 24
A. But I don't think that would be -- it states up there Uzi
submachine gun.
Q. Yes. On this occasion, he did a basic -- 25
A. It was only for the Uzi submachine gun he was being tested.
Q. That's right. But on this occasion he underwent a basic 26
course, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And on this occasion, he was found to be competent? 27
A. Yes, that appears so.
Q. Which means that he is competent to use that particular 28
weapon and may be assigned to him, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, the next one, Mr. Mills, is -- this time, it's dated 29
20/1 to the 22/1, and it relates to a .38 --
A. Sorry, the 20/1 to the 22/1 appears on that.
Q. Yes, that's right. 22/1/'87 -- 30
A. Sorry, I thought you said the 12th.
Q. If I did, my mistake, my apologies. Again, it's a basic 31
course, I suppose. And in relation to a .38 Spl, what's
that?
A. That's a revolver.
Q. That's a revolver, is it? 32
A. A 38 Special, it's called.
Q. Very well. And he was found to be competent in that? 33
A. Yes. Could I see -- who was deemed to have carried out
that inspection?
Q. Oh, I beg your pardon. Mr. Mills, if you put it down. 34
A. Carr, Sergeant Carr.
Q. No -- well, it's signed -- it's countersigned B. Garvey. 35
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A. That's right, but it's Sergeant Carr was the man --
Q. Very good. Okay. 36
A. Yeah. Is it the same man that did the previous test?
Q. I don't know. 37
A. Yes.
Q. Very good. So the next one, then, is, it runs from the 38
period of 23/1 to the 29/1/1987, and, on this occasion, I
think he was given a basic test in relation to the use of
the Uzi, isn't that right?
A. Uzi, yeah.
Q. And he was found to be competent? 39
A. Yes.
Q. So, I think we have dealt with them all now. I just want 40
to make sure you have dealt with them all. Just bear with
me a second, please. Yes, they are all the records in the
possession of the Tribunal in relation to Detective
Sergeant Corrigan's use and qualification for firearms.
Now, two things arise from all of that: Owen Corrigan said
to the Chairman that he was in charge of the escort. Is
that correct?
A. That would not be true.
Q. All right. He also mentioned an episode of the car getting 41
stuck in snow. Can you help the Chairman with that?
A. All I can tell the Chairman is that they had snow tyres on.
I don't know if you have ever seen them. It was the first
time ever I saw them, because we were surprised when they
arrived at the border with those things on their tyres, and
they were -- they came equipped for to deal with the snow,
and, as far as I am aware, there was no problem on the --
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the only problem I am aware of, as one evening they were
returning from the Special Criminal Court, a Garda car
developed a puncture and they weren't aware of it and
Mr. Paisley's driver signalled to them that there was
something wrong, and they stopped and they discovered that
they had a puncture, and, while they were repairing the
puncture, Mr. Paisley and his companions decided they would
have tea, and they had a little picnic in their car while
the guards were changing the tyre --
CHAIRMAN: They came --
A. Now, I wasn't present at that, but I know that incident
happened.
CHAIRMAN: The Special Criminal Court, they appeared on
three days?
A. That is correct.
CHAIRMAN: And, each day, they came from the north and were
escorted down?
A. That's correct.
CHAIRMAN: And were you in charge on each of the three
days?
A. I have a recollection of travelling on the first day, but I
didn't travel the second day, but I know that I would not
have detailed Sergeant Corrigan to take charge of the
escort.
Q. MR. DILLON: And why do you say that? 42
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A. Well, for many reasons.
Q. Well, had it anything to do with his proficiency in 43
firearms?
A. It would have to do -- yes. I was never happy with him
carrying firearms.
Q. But coming back to the certificates that have been put up 44
on the screen, it seems that the first -- of which the
Tribunal is aware, I have to stress that -- is that it was
on the 6/10/1986, do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. Which precedes the dates in January 1987 --45
A. Yes.
Q. -- clearly. And he didn't pass, isn't that right? 46
A. That is correct.
Q. And I think you told the Chairman that he is not qualified, 47
then, to hold a weapon, is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. The next tests are on varying dates, but starting on the 48
20th, and -- sorry, the 20th January, 1987, and I think the
last date on which Mr. Robinson and his friends were in the
Special Criminal Court was the 16th January, 1987, isn't
that right?
A. Yes.
Q. So, is his lack of entitlement to carry a firearm, might 49
that have been a consideration in your detailing -- whether
you detailed Mr. Corrigan or any other person?
A. Oh, yes, that would be -- that would be a major
consideration, but, apart from that, I would not have
detailed him. There was another sergeant would have been
working that day, a very competent sergeant, and he would
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have taken charge of the escort, and only one sergeant
would have travelled.
Q. Now, I'll just leave that at that. 50
Now, Chairman, I am going to move on to another topic,
which, as I say, has been flagged to the parties. And, in
reality, I think we are not going to be able to conclude
the matter today with Mr. Prenty, because, as I said to you
earlier on, there came to light, just this morning, another
C77 prepared by Mr. Corrigan, which, unfortunately, is
virtually illegible. It's quite long, it's quite lengthy,
it runs to nearly three - well, two-and-a-bit pages, and it
is, frankly, illegible, and the guards have said they will
do their best to produce either a legible copy, or
certainly a legible précis, and that, I think, in fairness
to Mr. Corrigan, that does need to be prepared. So, to an
extent, unfortunately, whatever is dealt with today, won't
be concluded on this topic, so far as the Tribunal is
concerned, because we must wait to see what is in the
second document.
But, that said, Mr. Mills, could you take 105, please, page
53 of Day 105. I'll start there with question 148.
"Question: Now, Mr. Corrigan, when did you first
become aware that Mr. McAnulty had been kidnapped,
how soon after the event?
Answer: I can't recall now. I can't recall exactly
now. Sometime within the 24 hours, you know, within
24 hours, yeah. I had been following -- pursuing the
thing from the outset. This threat was ongoing for
sometime against him, you know, and I was expecting
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developments, and feared the worst because that was
my -- that was the tone of the message I had
received, that he was going to be executed, you know.
Question: Well, now, the question -- your report is
not dated?
Answer: Yeah."
Now, I'll just stop here for a second. You have had an
opportunity to read what is an undated report of Detective
Sergeant Corrigan, a C77, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And I think it does appear to be the case, from the second 51
document which came to light today, that, likely as not,
that that document is dated the 17th July, 1989, isn't that
right?
A. That's right.
Q. I think in that, what is readable is that he refers back to 52
his earlier report of the 17th July, 1989?
A. Yes.
Q. So that appears to be the date of this, of the précis in 53
question. I'll put it up on the screen in a second, but I
just want to run through the passage that needs to be put
to you.
"Question: You see, what I'm coming to is this: why
I asked you when you first became aware that John
McAnulty had been kidnapped?
Answer: I honestly can't tell you that.
Question: Do you think it was within 24 hours?
Answer: I should imagine. I don't know now, I can't
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honestly say.
Question: You see, an investigation team was
established at 9:30 the following morning."
That's information that the Tribunal gleans from the Garda
file. Now, could I just stop there for a second. Were you
involved in the investigation team?
A. I was at the scene of the kidnapping immediately after it
happened, the night before, and I was involved -- I was in
charge of the investigation.
Q. Now, we know, and indeed there is no issue on this, that 54
Detective Sergeant Corrigan signed on for duty, I think, at
ten o'clock that night, for the 10 to 6 a.m. shift, if I
can call it that. Did you attempt to contact Detective
Sergeant Corrigan?
A. He wasn't available, that's all I know.
Q. How was it that you knew that he wasn't available? 55
A. Well, standard procedure was, when an incident like that
happened, radio messages are sent out to members on duty,
and he didn't respond.
Q. In all events, did he appear at the point of kidnapping? 56
A. No.
Q. I see. You went -- it was a pub, is that right? 57
A. I beg your pardon?
Q. It was a pub -- it was from a pub that Mr. McAnulty was 58
kidnapped, is that right?
A. It was, yes, I think it was --
Q. And you went to the pub? 59
A. Yeah - well, he had a peculiar marriage relationship. The
woman who was with him that night was in Dromad Garda
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Station, and I went to see her.
Q. I see. Was it she who reported the abduction? 60
A. It was, yes.
Q. And could you help the Chairman with this: Is Dromad -- 61
geographically, is Dromad Station the closer to the point
of kidnap than Dundalk?
A. It is. And the pub was in the Dromad subdistrict.
Q. So -- 62
A. So people who would have any problems, it was open 24
hours, so that's where they would go.
Q. So it was natural just to go there rather than to go to 63
Dundalk?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. Now, again, going on what's on the Garda file, it seems 64
that the report was made at 12:25 a.m. to Dromad Station,
and then, subsequently, I presume, following from what you
said to the Chairman, you went out to the scene of the
kidnapping?
A. I did, indeed, yes.
Q. And then, later on that morning, at around about half past 65
nine, an investigation team was formed. Can you remember
who was on that team?
A. Well, there was Gene McArdle was the pen man on it, but I
wouldn't -- no, it would be unfair of me to attempt to --
Q. That's fine. 66
A. But I would be 99.9 percent sure that Mr. Corrigan would
not be on the team, for his unit would be working, or
deemed to be working late that week, and if they were
working, anybody working from 10 to 6 in the morning would
not be put on an investigation team.
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Q. All right. Now, who were the superior officers involved in 67
the investigation?
A. Well, John Nolan, Chief Nolan, and I don't recall if Tom
Connolly was there on that particular morning.
Q. Was Pat Tierney, perhaps? 68
A. And Pat Tierney, yeah, Pat Tierney would be there.
Q. All right. So, I'm now carrying on. 69
"Question: You see, an investigation team was
established at 9.30 the following morning; John
Nolan, I think, Superintendent Tierney?
Answer: Yes.
Question: So, at that point, the word would have
been out, and that was well within 24 hours?
Answer: Yes."
And then -- so -- and then:
"Answer: I didn't say at any stage, now, that I was
-- I never indicated to you, Mr. Chairman, that it
was from a Garda source. I believe it was elsewhere
in pursuance of my inquiries, because my information
was that his life-span was limited and that they had
decided -- "
Then, there is an issue whether he said within 24 hours or
24 hours later.
And then he went on to say, question 161:
"Question: Now, I think it wasn't from a Garda
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source you heard?
Answer: I am only saying it may not. As I told you,
I was in contact with individuals, which would be --
might be considered unsavoury elements, or whatnot,
less desirable, but, then again, I had a less than
desirable duty to investigate, what I was
investigating with great urgency at the time because
I believed that every hour that I could spend in
trying to save his life -- they were moving him in
the Hackballscross/south Armagh area, moving him
around."
Now, in terms of the day-to-day investigation, what input
did the investigating team, whether it was yourself or the
other members, and particularly yourself, receive from
Detective Sergeant Corrigan?
A. Well, I am pretty much amazed at some of that information
because nobody in Detective Branch in Dundalk had any
knowledge or it never was made known to us that McAnulty's
life was in danger or that there was any threat to his
life, and he was a well-known character on the border area,
and I assume -- I am pretty certain that if I got
information that his life was in danger, I would have
alerted all possible security sources, with a view to
having him moved out of the place, or him taking steps to
protect him. He obviously didn't -- he wasn't under threat
or didn't believe he was under threat when he went to this
pub on that night, because it is in an isolated place and
an ideal location for a kidnapping or a murder.
Q. Well, I can put this to you, and the Chairman has heard 70
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this evidence from one of his handlers, that the handler
learnt, after Mr. McAnulty had been kidnapped and murdered,
that he had gone around with an axe in his car. Were you
aware of that?
A. Yes - well, when we searched the car, we found the axe in
his car.
Q. Yeah... 71
A. I don't know if I mentioned that in the report or not, but,
certainly, we found a small axe. It was under a mat where
he sat in the car.
Q. Well, might that have conveyed at the time -- be very 72
careful; we are talking about what you knew or understood
to be the case at the time, not now, with hindsight. At
the time, did that not indicate to you that he thought he
might be in danger?
A. Well, the type of business he was in, I would imagine he --
he was called 'Big Note', and the reason for that was that
no matter when you met him or where he was, he done his
business out of his top pocket; he carried a roll of,
maybe, one-hundred-pound notes in his top pocket, and if he
met anybody that he owed a few pound to, he would -- the
way he addressed him was, "I owe you a big note," and he
would take out a roll of hundreds or fifties, even if he
only owed you twenty-five, to pay it, and, as a consequence
of that, he was known as 'Big Note'. And I imagine him
carrying a hatchet around might have something to do with
that. I don't know, maybe he knew himself he was in
danger, but he didn't convey that to the RUC or he didn't
convey it to us.
Q. Now, it's now apparent that Owen Corrigan sent in a C77; 73
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indeed, he sent in two C77s. Up to today's date, we were
aware of only one in the matter, and I'm going to ask
Mr. Mills to put it up -- sorry, I may be wrong. There was
also a shorter one, my apologies. But for the time being,
we'll focus on this one. So this is undated and ungraded,
but we now should be in a position to give it a date, which
is the 17th July, 1989.
Now, the next thing you see, it's ungraded. The Chairman
has heard - I'd be grateful if you could confirm this -
that when a C77 is sent into Headquarters, it is graded, is
that right?
A. Well, I assume so. They never let me in on the secrets of
how they do these things.
Q. No, just a second, now. That the grading was carried out 74
in Headquarters, is that right?
A. Well, yes, if there was a grading, that's where it would be
done.
Q. Yes. If a document is not graded, what does that convey? 75
A. That there wouldn't be a lot of significance attached to
it, I would imagine.
Q. Now, it goes as follows: 76
"Garda information reported that John McAnulty had
been abducted by the south Armagh PIRA unit and of being
held by them. Reported it was believed that a decision to
execute Mr. McNulty" -- that's what it says -- "had been
taken by PIRA. Reported that McAnulty had recently been
involved in litigation with a named company in the Republic
of Ireland. Reported that McAnulty had approached PIRA and
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asked them to put pressure on the management of the company
not to pursue their litigation against him. Members of
south Armagh PIRA then threatened the senior management of
the company. PIRA was to receive a financial payment in
return. Meanwhile, McAnulty was arrested in Northern
Ireland and questioned about grain smuggling. He was
released from custody without charge and this led PIRA to
believe that he may have given information to the
authorities.
The information stated that a named person had telephoned
PIRA and provided information that assisted the abduction.
The document named the PIRA commander and the PIRA unit who
were responsible for the abduction of Mr. McAnulty. The
same PIRA unit was responsible for the earlier threat
against the company management and was also responsible for
the murders of RUC officers Breen and Buchanan. The Garda
member reported that he was monitoring the situation
closely and may have further information regarding the
identity of the culprits and the location of the house
where Mr. McAnulty was being held."
Now, I think it's the case that on the 20th November, 1989,
you prepared a report of the Garda investigation -- is it
October? Well, anyway, you prepared a substantial
report...
A. Yes.
Q. ... on the Garda investigation, is that right? 77
A. That is correct.
Q. Okay. And that report went -- well, went to Garda 78
Headquarters, is that right?
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A. That's right, yes.
Q. And, in it, you described what had happened, what the 79
guards were doing, what information had been uncovered in
the course of the investigation, isn't that right?
A. Yes, correct, Judge.
Q. And I think that the -- clearly, this investigation remains 80
an open investigation because nobody has been brought to
book, isn't that right?
A. That is correct.
Q. So, can you tell the Chairman, what were your sources for 81
the information that you put into that report? When I say
"information," I am not referring necessarily to
intelligence, but all matters that went into the report,
what were your sources?
A. Well, there would be communication with the RUC, Customs in
Northern Ireland, Customs in the south, members of his
family, people who were at the scene that night. His
brother was -- who worked with him for years and years, and
came to the station in Dromad that night and filled us in
on a lot of the material that's in that report.
Q. What about Garda sources, who -- which gardaí provided you 82
with sources -- sorry, with information?
A. There was -- the information that appears there never came
to me as -- I knew most of that, anyhow; that was general
information that's there. So -- but it never came to me as
an official confidential information.
Q. Can I just ask you this question, and I think you had an 83
opportunity to read the Garda file this morning, isn't that
right?
A. Yes.
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Q. And there appears to be, on the Garda file, a letter from 84
Crime and Security, from the Assistant Commissioner to
Chief Superintendent Nolan, dated 31st July, 1989. Did you
have an opportunity to read that letter?
A. I did, yes.
Q. And, in general terms, can you explain to the Chairman what 85
that letter sets out?
A. Well, it's a repeat of -- it's turning over that without
comment as far as -- it's turning over that information and
furnishing it to Chief Superintendent Nolan.
Q. Sorry, when you say "that information," are you referring 86
to what's on the screen, is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. All right. Now, when you came to do your report, which was 87
a couple of months later, did the information contained in
the Assistant Commissioner's minute make its way into your
report?
A. No.
Q. Were you aware, at the time that you wrote your report, of 88
that letter or that minute from the Assistant Commissioner?
A. No.
Q. Now, at this point, in the ordinary course, Chairman, I'd 89
go on to the next document which came to light this
morning. I can't deal with that now. But I think
Mr. Prenty has kindly indicated that he'll come back to
deal with that once we have a correct -- an either legible
version or a legible précis.
CHAIRMAN: How soon can that happen?
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MR. DILLON: I don't know. There is no question of doing
it today, absolutely not, we understand that.
CHAIRMAN: What I was wondering, if we could get this out
of the way before Mr. Corrigan returns to the box.
MR. DILLON: Well, indeed, yes, or to take it first thing
on Friday morning, if need be.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, but it would be nice if we could deal --
MR. DURACK: We'll attempt to do it as soon as possible.
MR. DILLON: That's as far as I can take matters for the
moment. I don't know whether parties wish to reserve their
cross-examination until the full document goes in, or
whether they wish to cross-examine now. That's as far as I
can go with that.
A. Judge, I have a problem in relation to next week. I can't
be here next week. The only holiday I take in the year, I
am taking it next week, and I have already paid for it.
MR. DILLON: We won't interfere with that, clearly. The
following week, how do you stand?
A. I presume, everything going well, that I should be able to
appear some day the following week.
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A. I assume so -- I can't give you an exact date --
Q. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. But at all 91
events, you are not available next week?
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A. No.
CHAIRMAN: I think it might be advisable, if people
cross-examined, they could then cross-examine again if
something further arose out of this extra document.
MR. McGUINNESS: I have a few questions, and then I'll
reserve my position on that.
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AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. McGUINNESS: Mr. Prenty, I appear for An Garda 92
Siochana, as you know. And I think in relation to
Mr. McAnulty's kidnapping, that came to Garda attention at
about 12:25 a.m. on the early morning of the 17th July,
isn't that correct?
A. Well, I wouldn't have received the report, but that's what
was brought to my attention.
Q. Yeah, but that's -- you knew that Mrs. McAnulty, perhaps 93
his former wife at that time, was driven to Dromad Garda
Station at around that time?
A. Yes.
Q. And reported the kidnap by six armed and masked men? 94
A. Yes.
Q. And Dundalk was alerted, the Chief Superintendent's office 95
in Dundalk was alerted immediately, isn't that right?
A. No, the Chief Superintendent's office wouldn't be open at
that time. The information room in Dundalk would have
been.
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Q. Well, certainly Control Room at Dundalk Garda Station was 96
alerted immediately?
A. Yes.
Q. And details of the incident were immediately circulated, 97
and the divisional and district officers were notified
also, isn't that correct?
A. That's standard procedure, yes.
Q. And is it correct that immediate steps were taken to mount 98
mobile patrols that night?
A. I have already given evidence to that effect, Judge.
Q. And that the RUC were similarly alerted --99
A. That's correct.
Q. -- at that time? And you went to the scene then, and you 100
were the first officer of rank at the scene then?
A. I would have gone to the -- directly to the scene, having
left instructions in the Control Room for to make --
distribute the information, as you have set out.
Q. I think, contrary to what you have told the Chairman, you 101
didn't take charge of the investigation because Chief
Superintendent Nolan and Superintendent Tierney turned up
at the scene and took charge?
A. I would dispute that.
Q. Did they turn up at the scene and take charge? 102
A. Not that night.
CHAIRMAN: Did they take charge the following morning?
A. That would be -- yes.
Q. MR. McGUINNESS: Well, was there not a controversy arising 103
out of a telex that you sent giving initial information
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about the scene when you omitted to refer to the presence
of Chief Superintendent Nolan and Superintendent Tierney at
the scene that night?
A. There was no controversy. The telex was correct, but the
inference from Headquarters was that I was assuming
responsibility for -- over and above my duties or
responsibilities, but Chief Superintendent Nolan was in
Dublin that night, and I don't know where -- I can't say at
this stage where Pat Tierney was, but he wasn't -- he
didn't come to the scene that night. Superintendent Nolan
was reprimanded by, I think it was Commissioner Doherty at
the time, or maybe Crowley, I'm not sure, because my name
appeared on the telex. He obviously was reprimanded by
somebody in the Department of Justice as to why the Chief
didn't go to the scene at that stage, but there was no
controversy. There was nothing -- nothing was attached to
me; I did my job properly, and that's all I could do.
Q. Well, did the Commissioner's office not send a missive down 104
immediately because of your report, because it failed to
mention Superintendent Tierney and Chief Superintendent
Nolan, and was asking whether the senior officers had taken
charge of the scene or not or whether you were the only
officer who had been there?
A. Well, that wouldn't have come to me.
Q. Well, didn't you learn of it, and weren't you dressed down 105
by Chief Superintendent Nolan for putting in a misleading
report?
A. I didn't put in a misleading report; I put in a true
report. I beg to differ with you.
Q. Okay. And in your report that Mr. Dillon has referred to, 106
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the written report of the 20th of October, you record that
"the scene at Rosewood licensed premises, Drumcar, Dromad,
Co. Louth was visited by Chief Superintendent J.J. Nolan
and Superintendent Patrick Tierney."
A. Did I say when?
Q. "Chief Superintendent Nolan took charge of the 107
investigations and directed operations."
A. Yes.
Q. Is that right? 108
A. That is correct.
Q. And then the next thing you record is later that morning, 109
at 9:30, the conference was held, formally setting up the
investigation team?
A. Yes.
Q. And do you accept that the senior officers came to the 110
scene or not?
A. I am telling you what happened exactly.
Q. And Mr. Dillon has referred to the Commissioner's letter, 111
which replicates a lot of the information in Mr. Corrigan's
C77. Are you telling the Chairman that you never became
aware of the content of that?
A. I am, yes.
Q. And is it not the case that, in writing your report, you 112
would have to be aware not of the origin of any particular
intelligence information or of the member who provided it,
but of the substance of it?
A. I don't know where you draw that conclusion from. I don't
have to be aware of anything. I didn't have to be aware of
anything if I wasn't told.
Q. Well, in compiling your report -- 113
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A. Do you have --
Q. -- were you not briefed by Chief Superintendent Nolan -- 114
A. Has somebody told you that I was told this?
Q. I'm asking you what occurred, and I'm suggesting to you -- 115
you can disagree if you want, Mr. Prenty --
A. I have disagreed already.
Q. Did Chief Superintendent Nolan make you aware of any 116
intelligence that had come to Dundalk about the abduction
of Mr. McAnulty?
A. No, certainly nothing in the nature of what is recorded in
that letter.
Q. But -- 117
A. But, in any event, that information about the persons
mentioned in it was common knowledge in Dundalk.
Q. Well, you have seen the précis of the C77 that was put on 118
the screen, you have seen the original of that, you have
seen a subsequent short one and you have seen the one which
was produced today, which is very difficult to read. Are
you telling the Tribunal that you were not made aware by
anyone, in any form, of the content of those?
A. I'm telling the Tribunal that most of that information that
is in them C77s would be common knowledge in Dundalk. I
was aware of them from the early -- early on, because I was
briefed by his brother, who had all the information that
was available about his activities and his arrest and
release and [redacted] and -- excuse me, Judge, for
mentioning his name -- all that, all that, I knew.
MR. McGUINNESS: Chairman, could I reserve any further
questioning in relation to the matter.
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CHAIRMAN: Of course, yes. Any questions? Yes,
Mr. O'Callaghan.
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AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Good morning, Mr. Prenty. I appear for 119
Owen Corrigan. Could I start with the issue pertaining to
Mr. Robinson. Mr. Dillon read you out the transcript,
Mr. Prenty, of what Mr. Corrigan said. Do you recall that?
A. Yes.
Q. There was another part of it that I just want to read out 120
to you to give you a full picture of it. On the same day,
at page 62, Mr. Corrigan said this, in answer to question
239:
He said, "We were engaged in the escort of the First
Minister of Northern Ireland at the present time, Mr. Peter
Robinson, who was going to court at the Special Criminal
Court to answer charges in relation to incidents at
Clontibret, County Monaghan, some months earlier, and the
car in which he was driving got stuck in Drogheda, in a
snowstorm. Now, I was faced with the dilemma of making an
on-the-spot decision. There was Mr. Robinson and his wife,
Iris, and the driver of the car. I couldn't let any of the
three of them out of the car, and it was a heavy
horse-power car, and what I could do? It was in the Bull
Ring area of Drogheda, which is low down, and we had to
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Road, and, lucky enough, I recruited a couple of people in
Drogheda that were good enough to assist us in our
endeavours to get them on the road again."
So I just wanted to apprise you of that, in the first
instance, Mr. Prenty. You have indicated, Mr. Prenty, that
you were involved in collecting Mr. Robinson and the
Reverend Paisley in August when they were coming down to
Dundalk for the first time, isn't that so?
A. That is correct.
Q. And would you agree with me that, clearly, that isn't the 121
occasion that Mr. Corrigan is referring to, because he is
referring to a snowstorm, and although we don't have great
summers in Ireland, we generally don't get snow in August,
isn't that correct?
A. I'm not sure where that is coming from.
Q. Okay. I'll explain to you again. In his evidence, 122
Mr. Corrigan refers to the fact that there was the
snowstorm and the car got stuck in Drogheda, isn't that
correct?
A. I thought it was January the court was.
Q. I know, but -- 123
A. Where does August come in it?
Q. Because you said you collected Mr. Robinson and the 124
Reverend Paisley in August when they were coming down to
the District Court for the hearing on August the 14th of
1986?
A. There is no conflict there, sure there isn't?
Q. So there is no conflict there. But clearly, Mr. Corrigan 125
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Mr. Robinson in August 1986. So you are aware that?
A. I know he wasn't --
Q. And he never said he was. He never said he was. He was 126
referring to an occasion when there was snow.
A. I didn't say he was either.
Q. Okay, there is no dispute about that. So where we come to 127
now is the occasion upon which Mr. Robinson was coming to
Dublin between the 13th and the 16th of January, 1987,
isn't that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, you are aware, and I don't think I have to open The 128
Irish Times articles for you, but on that -- the particular
day that Mr. Robinson was in court, and for the rest of
that week, there were extraordinarily large snowfalls in
Ireland, do you recall that?
A. I do.
Q. There was actually -- the headline in The Irish Times -- 129
A. I have already given evidence to the effect that I met
Mr. Paisley and them at the border in January, and they had
snow tyres on their cars.
Q. And we are coming to that. And you accept there was heavy 130
snow that January, don't you?
A. Yes, of course, yes.
Q. Now, Mr. Robinson came down to Dublin on four days: the 131
13th, the 14th, the 15th and the 16th of January, isn't
that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. On how many of those days did you accompany Mr. Robinson 132
and Dr. Paisley to Dublin?
A. The first day.
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Q. Okay. So you weren't there on the 14th, the 15th and the 133
16th, isn't that so?
A. No.
Q. So you can't say to the Chairman that Mr. Robinson's car 134
didn't get stuck in Drogheda, in the Bull Ring, on one of
those days, because you weren't there, isn't that correct?
A. I can say to the Chairman that I would not have detailed
Mr. Corrigan to escort -- on the escort.
Q. If you could deal with the question I asked you, 135
Mr. Prenty. You can't say, leaving aside Mr. Corrigan for
the moment, you can't say that Mr. Robinson's car didn't
get stuck in snow in Dundalk on three of those days, isn't
that correct?
A. It was never suggested that it got stuck in snow in
Dundalk; I think it was Drogheda.
Q. In Drogheda, I beg your pardon. But you can't say that 136
never happened, isn't that correct?
A. I can't, but I believe, from information in my possession,
that the snow -- on the first day was the only day that
there was heavy snow, and on the second day that they
didn't have their snow tyres on, and that things had
mellowed, the roads were clearer from the first day on.
Q. Well -- 137
A. That's what I believe.
Q. Well, I have it on -- I have The Irish Times articles here. 138
On Wednesday the 14th and Thursday the 15th of January, the
headline was in respect of the weather in around -- in the
country on that particular occasion. So, there was severe
snow that persisted for the whole week, would you accept
that?
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A. The snow persisted, certainly, but I believe on the Monday,
because of the weekend, the sanding would not have been
done and the roads would have been bad, but, from then on,
the roads would have been sanded or salted, or whatever
they do with them, and the roads were clear with heavy
traffic, and that. There was certainly no problem, as far
as I am concerned, with the roads from the Monday on.
Q. Well, I have to -- 139
A. I still can't -- I'm still not saying that his car didn't
get stuck in Drogheda, but what I'm saying is that I did
not, or would not have detailed Sergeant Corrigan on escort
with Mr. Robinson. That's all I can say about it.
Q. Okay. We can agree on this: you don't know whether 140
Mr. Robinson's car got stuck in snow in Drogheda?
A. I have said that, yes.
Q. Okay. And you do know, however, that on the second 141
occasion that he was coming down, that they didn't have
snow tyres on their car, isn't that correct?
A. That's what I believe, yeah.
Q. And are you saying that Mr. Corrigan would have had no role 142
in the escort of Mr. Robinson?
A. That is my recollection.
Q. Why, then, in your statement, or the draft statement that 143
was prepared yesterday and which was furnished to us, did
you say the following: "At most, he would have been in a
car as one of the additional members" in reference to
Mr. Corrigan?
A. Well, Mr. Corrigan had a habit of undertaking
responsibilities which would not be assigned to him. And
on a previous occasion in which an escort had been arranged
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for a High Court judge from the north, when off duty, he
appeared and travelled in the car with the members who were
on escort.
Q. Where was that car going, do you recall? 144
A. I beg your pardon?
Q. Where was that car going, do you recall? 145
A. That was a judge going to a rugby match in Dublin.
Q. Okay. So, you don't know, but Mr. Corrigan could have 146
taken it upon himself to be part of the escort?
A. That's what I say.
Q. Okay. Thank you. 147
A. But he wouldn't be part of the escort because he wouldn't
have been detailed for duty. Unless he would have been
detailed for duty, he wouldn't have been part of the
escort.
Q. His evidence, which has been given to the Chairman, is what 148
I've read out to you, is that he was a part of the escort -
he says he was in charge of the escort, in fact - and that
when the car got stuck in the Bull Ring, he and others
helped to push it out. You can't refute that Mr. Prenty?
A. I am not attempting to refute it.
Q. Thank you. Can I move on to the McAnulty issue, if I may. 149
You accept that the C77 prepared by Mr. Corrigan was,
although it's undated, appears to have been prepared on the
17th of July, isn't that so?
A. Yes.
Q. You seem to state that the content of that C77 is simply 150
common knowledge, is that correct?
A. More or less, yeah, most of it, yes.
Q. If I could ask Mr. Mills if he could put up the C77 on the 151
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screen, and I just want to ask you some questions in
respect of it -- the précis, I beg your pardon.
The start of it is: "Garda information reported that John
McAnulty had been abducted by the south Armagh PIRA unit
and was being held by them." Was that common knowledge on
the 17th of July, Mr. Prenty?
A. What was the date of his abduction?
Q. 17th of July, 12:20 a.m. 152
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. "Reported it was believed that a decision to execute 153
Mr. McAnulty had been taken by the Provisional IRA."
Was that common knowledge on the 17th of July, Mr. Prenty?
A. It could be, and was assumed that his kidnapping would
result in his death, that was -- could be taken as read.
Q. Mr. Prenty, I thought you told Mr. Dillon, when he was 154
asking you questions, that after Mr. McAnulty had been
abducted, nobody thought that he was -- his life was under
threat, is that not correct?
A. Well, I would certainly dispute that.
Q. Okay. So you are saying that once you heard Mr. McAnulty 155
was abducted, it was common knowledge that this man was
going to be executed by the IRA?
A. Well, there was a 99.9 percent chance that he was going to
be.
Q. You are saying it was common knowledge? 156
A. It was common knowledge with us, the Gardaí, and his
brother also felt that his life was in serious danger.
Q. And his brother presented this to you, this information to 157
you?
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Q. And did you generate a C77 when his brother told you this 158
information?
A. No.
Q. Why not? 159
A. For what purpose?
Q. To assist in the investigation? 160
A. I was doing the investigation.
Q. But did you not think that your information should be 161
shared with other Garda officers?
A. It was shared with everybody who was involved in the
investigation.
Q. You continue: "Reported that Mr. McAnulty had recently 162
been involved in litigation with a named company in the
Republic of Ireland." Are you saying that was common
knowledge?
A. It was.
Q. Continues: "Reported that Mr. McAnulty had approached PIRA 163
and had asked them to put pressure on the management of the
company not to pursue their litigation against him."
Are you saying that's common knowledge?
A. That would be, in my opinion, speculation.
Q. Was it speculation that was commonly known? 164
A. No, I wouldn't say it was commonly known.
Q. Thank you. You continue: "Members of south Armagh PIRA 165
then threatened the senior management of the company."
Was that common knowledge?
A. The senior management of the company were interviewed, and
they, as far as I remember, they did not acknowledge that.
Q. Well, when were they interviewed? 166
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Q. Okay. And presumably they were interviewed on foot of the 167
information received in the C77, is that correct?
A. The whole -- if you want to go into the whole scheme of
Mr. McAnulty and why he was abducted or why he was
arrested, it's a very long story, and it has to do with a
major operation involving grain smuggling, whereby certain
people obtained documents, dockets from a large grain
company, and they were using them to take grain across the
border. Now, they were running the grain up out the Dromad
road, or out the Dublin-Belfast road, and taking the same
load in, having removed a few wheelbarrows of grain from
it, and driving it back out again, and this was going -- it
was a circle that was being operated. Eventually, the
Customs got wise to it and McAnulty and others were
arrested in the north and taken in for questioning.
Q. The C77, the précis continues: "PIRA was to receive a 168
financial payment in return." That was common knowledge,
on the 17th of July?
A. If you put one of them down, you must also put down the
other, because that -- they would have been -- it would
have been recognised that threats at different times would
have been issued, be they the IRA against certain people
for the purpose of obtaining money from them.
Q. So -- 169
A. So it would be an assumption. You could assume that and no
one could contradict you.
Q. "Meanwhile, Mr. McAnulty was arrested in Northern Ireland 170
and questioned about grain smuggling." Was that common
knowledge?
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A. It was of course, yes.
Q. "He was released from custody without charge and this led 171
PIRA to believe that he may have given information to the
authorities." Was that common knowledge?
A. That would have come into our possession in relation to the
-- when he was shot.
Q. It would have come -- sorry, Mr. Prenty, I missed the 172
answer?
A. That came to us when he was kidnapped and shot.
Q. Okay. Well, then, that didn't -- wasn't common knowledge 173
at the time this was written, which was written before he
was shot, isn't that so?
A. Dated the 17th, isn't it the day --
Q. It was clearly written -- 174
A. How do we know how long he lived after he was kidnapped?
Q. All we know is that the person who was writing it, clearly 175
is writing it with a state of mind that Mr. McAnulty has
been kidnapped but he is not dead, isn't that correct?
A. That is -- well, I won't comment on that.
Q. Mr. Corrigan continues: "He was released from" -- it 176
continues: "The information stated that a named person had
telephoned PIRA and provided information that assisted the
abduction." And remember, the named person, although it's
referred to here, the real name of the person appears in
the C77, isn't that correct, Mr. Prenty?
A. Yes, and I know the person that's mentioned.
Q. And was that common knowledge at the time? 177
A. It is my fervent belief that such an incident never
happened.
Q. Okay. It continues: "The document named the PIRA 178
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commander and the PIRA unit who were responsible for the
abduction of Mr. McAnulty." Was that common knowledge on
the 17th of July?
A. Well, immediately after -- they were -- the persons
mentioned there were the active -- and there is -- I could
have added a few names to that myself -- were the people
who ran the operation in that area of south Armagh.
Q. So you are stating that was all common knowledge? 179
A. Yes.
Q. "The same PIRA unit was responsible for the earlier threat 180
against the company management and was also responsible for
the murders of RUC officers Breen and Buchanan."
Was that common knowledge?
A. That they were in the picture for the assassination of
Mr. Breen and Mr. Buchanan, there is no question about
that.
Q. Sorry, what the précis says, that they were responsible for 181
the murders of Chief Superintendent Breen and
Superintendent Buchanan.
A. Well, that may well be, but it's very easy to say that, but
produce proof of it, is a different thing.
Q. No, what you have said is that everything in this document 182
was common knowledge. I'm asking you --
A. I didn't say everything that was in it, now. I said most
of it.
Q. Sorry, was that common knowledge at the time? 183
A. They would be -- in relation to what?
Q. What was stated by Mr. Corrigan, that the "PIRA unit was 184
responsible for the earlier threat against the company
management and was also responsible for the murders of RUC
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officers... "
A. Well, I have questioned -- I have disputed the threats to
the company. I would doubt that very much, because they
didn't stand up and they would -- they were way down in
Co. Kildare; they were not in any ways local. And the
other aspect of it was, in order to create a good
impression, it is very easy to say this fella, that fella
or the other fella committed murder, but to produce the
evidence is a different story.
Q. Are you saying it was common knowledge that this crowd was 185
responsible for the murders of the two officers?
A. Well, I believe the RUC had them suspects.
Q. It concludes: "The Garda member reported that he was 186
monitoring the situation closely and may have further
information regarding the identity of the culprits and the
location of the house where Mr. McAnulty was being held."
Was that common knowledge?
A. I don't know what he was about. There was never a question
of any house being mentioned where he was held. I never
heard it.
Q. You, then, prepared a report in October, isn't that 187
correct, of 1989?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you read that report this morning? 188
A. I did, yes.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, in his evidence, said that that report 189
contains a reference by you to information provided by a
member serving in Dundalk. Do you recall that?
A. Yes.
Q. To what member were you referring? 190
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A. I believe it was the member who prepared the report.
Q. Which report is that, Mr. Prenty? 191
A. I wrote the report, sorry. The member who typed the
report.
Q. And what information did he provide you? 192
A. The information he referred to.
Q. And wasn't that the same information that was contained in 193
Mr. Corrigan's C77?
A. I'm not disputing that.
Q. Well, isn't the reality, Mr. Prenty, that the information 194
you relied upon in your report was the information that
Mr. Corrigan provided on the 17th of July?
A. No.
Q. Why are you so hesitant in -- 195
A. I'm --
Q. -- let me ask the question, please -- why are you so 196
hesitant in acknowledging any positive work that
Mr. Corrigan did and upon which you relied, Mr. Prenty?
A. I had -- I worked there, I was in charge of the unit. I
knew what was going on. I know who was doing their work
and I know who wasn't. I know who was creating, writing
fiction, and I know who wasn't. And I am 99.9 percent
certain that I received no information from Sergeant
Corrigan in relation to the kidnap of John McAnulty, and
any information that was furnished to Headquarters was
never -- never came back to me.
Q. Well, you are not suggesting that Mr. Corrigan was wrong in 197
furnishing the information to Headquarters, are you?
A. Well, you can draw whatever conclusion you like from what I
have said. That's what I'm saying.
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Q. The reason I asked that of you is because, on the last 198
occasion you were here, you said it was the recommended
procedure for confidential information to be directed to
Headquarters?
A. I'm not disputing that, either.
Q. Are you saying that this précis is a work of fiction? 199
A. The précis is a précis of what is written by Sergeant
Corrigan.
Q. And are you saying it is a work of fiction? 200
A. Well, a large part of it.
Q. I have to suggest to you, Mr. Prenty, that that indicates, 201
for a further time, the extent of your malice towards my
client; that you are not even prepared to acknowledge very
good intelligence information that he provided and you
relied upon in July 1989?
A. I have no problem, good, bad or indifferent, in
acknowledging any police work done by any member of the
station party with which -- who I was responsible for or
who worked with me. But I have long experience of dealing
with that type of behaviour, and I had an occasion for the
information of the -- I had an occasion where an auctioneer
came in to me and complained that he was threatened by a
well-known member of the IRA in relation to a deposit paid
on a house and the person who paid the deposit changed
their mind and didn't want to go through with it. Now, as
is customary or is normal, the auctioneer was holding on to
the deposit, but he had a visit from this particular
gentleman, whom I knew well, and he threatened him, and
threatened him severely, and he was, he stood up -- the
auctioneer stood his ground and he refused to yield, and he
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came to visit me and informed me of what had happened. I
knew the individual concerned, and I says I will go after
him and see what he has to say for himself. Now, this man
was -- as you can appreciate, wasn't anxious to go to
court, but he just wanted to let us know what had happened.
I went and saw the individual concerned, who was
subsequently shot, and drew his attention to what I had
been told, and he said nothing but he acknowledged that I
knew what was going on and that there wouldn't be any
repeat of it. I came back to the station and I entered the
information in the notebook, which was for the purpose of
keeping all members informed of what the activities of the
IRA were - we had a day-book there - only to discover, a
couple of days after, that Mr. Corrigan had sent in a C77
to Dublin describing this as confidential information from
a reliable source. So I -- I was aware that that thing had
been going on, and that it went on on a regular basis, and,
from then on, I took scant notice of any intelligence that
-- or anything that he wrote, or I made sure to check if
there was any substance to it, but most of it had no
substance to it.
Q. How do you know that that piece of C77 he submitted to 202
Headquarters wasn't based on intelligence and information
he had derived himself?
A. It was a copy of what I had written in the day-book.
Q. Sure, listen, you seem to be suggesting here in respect of 203
John McAnulty, that there was another guard who produced
similar information in respect to Mr. Corrigan?
A. I didn't say that; you are saying it.
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tittle-tattle by you trying to undermine my client. You
recall on the last occasion you were here, you mentioned
more gossip about how you were told by an officer in the
RUC, whose name coincidentally you couldn't remember, that
there was a file with a red ribbon on it, on Mr. Corrigan,
in RUC Headquarters, do you remember that?
A. I do, indeed.
Q. Do you know that we have had evidence from Mr. McKeon, on 205
behalf of the PSNI, who has confirmed to the Chairman that
there are no other documents that are relevant to this
inquiry that the PSNI have not provided. No such file with
a red ribbon, or otherwise, has been furnished. Do you
accept, therefore, that what you told this Chairman was
incorrect in terms of there was no such file?
A. No, certainly not. I told the Chairman what I was told by
the RUC officer who saw the file and told me, and I have a
hundred percent confidence that he told me the truth.
Where the file went is -- I can't say, but the file was
there.
Q. But you accept that the likelihood is that no file ever 206
existed?
A. No.
Q. You believe there is still a file there?207
A. I didn't say there was still a file; I said there was a
file there.
Q. And you are saying that that file has been withheld from 208
this inquiry by the PSNI?
A. Well, there are other matters in relation to a tape, that
evidence that was given here which would seem to indicate
that I'm suffering from a false imagination, but I can tell
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you that any evidence that I have given here is based on a
hundred percent truth.
Q. You are talking about the McKevitt tape, is that so? 209
A. Yes.
Q. One thing I should put to you, as well, and it has arisen 210
since the last occasion you were here; you are aware that
the main reason we are all here is because of the Toby
Harnden book and what he said in it, isn't that correct,
Mr. Prenty?
A. Yes.
Q. And, in that, he purports to quote you stating that, "I am 211
afraid there was a leak from the Gardaí that led to the
murders of Breen and Buchanan," isn't that correct?
A. No.
Q. Well, what way is it incorrect? 212
A. He never -- I never said any such thing.
Q. I know you didn't, I'm not disputing that, but he says in 213
the book that Detective Inspector L gave him this
information. You are aware of that, aren't you?
A. I am, yeah.
Q. And we know that you are the only Detective Inspector he 214
spoke to. I know you dispute it. Isn't that correct, you
dispute it?
A. I deny it completely and absolutely. And the evidence I
gave here before, I can remember it well, I said that he
came to me with that information, he came to me with that
information, for me to confirm it, but I couldn't. And if
I could, I would.
Q. What information did he come to you with? 215
A. That there was a leak, a suggested leak in Dundalk Garda
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Station, what you are after saying.
Q. And when he put that to you, you said that's incorrect? 216
A. I told him that I had no information to substantiate that
suggestion.
Q. And, in fairness to you, you are aware that Mr. Harnden is 217
not prepared to come here and stand over what he wrote?
A. Well, I have no control over what Mr. Harnden does.
CHAIRMAN: No, of course not. He promised to come here,
but he changed his mind.
A. I understand that.
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Can I ask you, why did you or how did you 218
end up talking to Mr. Harnden, Mr. Prenty?
A. He arrived at my door, having been -- and I asked him where
he came from or how did he get my name, and he gave me the
name of a guard in the station who gave him -- told him
where I lived.
Q. And did you bring him in? 219
A. Well, I didn't see any reason why I shouldn't. Why
wouldn't I?
Q. I am not -- I'm just trying to establish, because it's 220
evidence that we haven't heard, since Mr. Harnden isn't
here. What did he ask you and what did he discuss with
you?
A. Well, the troubles along the border, the different
incidents down the years, and whatnot, and the rest of it,
and the possibility that there might have been a leak from
Dundalk Garda Station. I gave him no information of a
confidential nature, our discussion was in general terms,
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but I most certainly did not say that there was -- that I
knew there was a leak from Dundalk Garda Station. I didn't
know, I still don't know.
Q. And how long did your conversation with him continue? 221
A. Half an hour.
Q. Another point, while I have you, is that Mr. Corrigan has 222
given evidence that, after 1986, when there was regime
change in Dundalk Garda Station, that he was ostracised by
the new regime. That was evidence that was also given by
Mr. Ben McGrath, a Garda in Dundalk. Do you accept that
those individuals were marginalised or ostracised after the
new regime took over?
A. I was never conscious of any -- prior to the change in
regime, Mr. Corrigan always did his own thing, and he
continued to do that to large degree. He came -- it's
recorded, I think, his abuse of official vehicles and his
alteration of documents, and whatnot, and the rest of it;
that was what he went on with always, and he had a cover in
the station by a superintendent there who made sure that he
was involved in two very serious accidents, one of them
which was fatal and which would merit a serious
investigation and which was never properly investigated.
He was involved in another accident where he nearly killed
a couple coming out of the Fairways Hotel while off duty,
and cover was provided for him by the inspector who went to
visit the accident. And there is a litany of problems. If
you want me to discuss a whole lot of these things, I am
quite willing to do so.
Q. I have to suggest to you again, Mr. Prenty, that your 223
answer, once again, indicates your astonishing levels of
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malice, and I'd go so far as to say hatred that you have
displayed in the witness box towards my client?
A. Why should I -- why should simple facts indicate malice?
The reputation of the guards, as far as I was concerned,
and our ability to perform our duty without fear, favour,
malice or ill-will, that's what I was about. I wasn't
about obtaining property and not paying for it, I wasn't
about going into shops or walking out without paying for my
meals. None of that...
Q. Do you remember two members of An Garda Siochana based in 224
Dundalk called Willie Horgan and Gerry Connor?
A. Yes.
Q. They were both appointed as trainee detectives in 1986, 225
along with 30 others, isn't that correct?
A. That's right.
Q. But aren't I correct in stating that both yourself and 226
Superintendent Nolan reverted them from detectives back
into uniformed gardaí?
A. I would have no function in reverting anybody into uniform.
Q. Are you denying that you had any involvement in that, 227
Mr. Prenty?
A. I was obliged by my authorities to write a report; I think
we had 20 or 25 young men inducted into the Detective
Branch on a six months' probation period, and two of them
were found to be unsuitable, in my estimation and the
detective superintendent with whom I worked, and we made
recommendations accordingly. One of them was reverted; the
other fella decided he'd go to the High Court, and, because
of a failure in administration and people who didn't do
their job up along the line, unfair procedure was found and
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he was appointed.
Q. So, the High Court reversed your decision that this man -- 228
A. I beg to differ with you. I had -- I made no decision
to --
Q. I thought you said that you determined he was unsuitable? 229
A. Judge, I didn't say that.
Q. Well, that's what I recall you saying. If you didn't say 230
it, you didn't -- we can check the transcript, but I
thought you said --
A. Well, you can check it again.
Q. Are you saying that Gerry Connor was unsuitable? 231
A. I furnished a report of what my opinion was in relation to
his suitability for Detective Branch.
Q. And did you -- 232
A. Listen, would you just wait a minute. As a consequence of
that, my D/Superintendent also had an overview of the
thing. He agreed with me, and the Chief Superintendent
also agreed with me, so I don't feel that I have any
particular responsibility. I assessed the situation, and
both my senior officers agreed with me.
Q. And he went to the High Court and he won in the High Court 233
and was reversed, isn't that so?
A. Yes.
Q. And I have to suggest to you that was another example of 234
you and other people in Dundalk unlawfully using your power
to undermine other members of An Garda Siochana?
A. I'm absolutely shocked to hear you make such an allegation.
Q. Would you reply to it? 235
A. It's not true.
Q. Do you recall the murder of Tom Oliver? 236
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A. Of course I do, yes.
Q. Are you aware of an establishment called Fintan Callan's 237
Ceili House?
A. Yes.
Q. As a member of An Garda Siochana, would you think it would 238
be a suitable place for a guard to go for a drink or to
socialise?
A. Well, I am quite certain that the local gardaí in
Hackballscross visited there to socialise. I never did,
now, I must say, but I never heard that there was anything
seriously wrong with it.
Q. Okay. So you are saying that local gardaí in 239
Hackballscross went there?
A. I didn't say that, now.
Q. Well, what did you say, then? 240
A. I said I'm sure that they would have socialised in it from
time to time, but I cannot say that they did.
Q. So you are speculating, isn't that correct? 241
A. To a degree, I suppose. But it was a local pub there, and
normally, members of the gardaí, for the purpose of
intelligence, would be advised to visit those places, never
mind to socialise in them.
Q. Did you ever hear of an agent called Peter Keeley? 242
A. I saw his name in the paper.
Q. Did you ever encounter him whilst you were a member of An 243
Garda Siochana?
A. No, I didn't.
Q. Notwithstanding your level of malice and intense dislike of 244
Owen Corrigan, you have never suggested that he was an
agent working for the IRA, isn't that correct?
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A. Who?
Q. You have never suggested Owen Corrigan was an agent working 245
for the IRA?
A. No, I haven't.
Q. No is the answer, is it? 246
A. Yes.
Q. Sorry, just to be clear, your answer to the question is no, 247
you never suggested it?
A. I never suggested it.
Q. And just finally then, the C77 that we looked at, which you 248
described as containing common knowledge and general
information, would you agree with me that, in order to
generate that, the member who prepared it will have to be
working in order to prepare it?
A. I don't understand...
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C77?
A. I have.
Q. How many pages is it? 250
A. I think there is only one page in the original one.
Q. It's a lengthy one, though, isn't it? 251
A. Well, yes.
Q. Mr. Dillon thinks maybe it's two pages. Then there were 252
two other C77s, isn't that correct?
A. Well, there was one of one page and there is one of a
fairly -- a longer one, and then there was a shorter one,
as well.
Q. Would you agree with me that irrespective of your views 253
about the person who wrote the C77, that, in order to
prepare it, you would have to be doing work to compile it
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and to get the information to put into it?
A. The information to put into it, all he had to do was sit
down at a typewriter and type it out. Ten minutes would
have done the job.
Q. I don't think it is originally typed out, though; isn't it 254
handwritten?
A. It was, yes. What I saw was typed, anyway.
Q. Okay. Would you not even go this far: that the 255
preparation of those C77s would have required a member to
be working?
A. Of course.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN: Any other questions?
MR. COFFEY: I have no questions. And while I don't
anticipate questioning Mr. Prenty on the next occasion, I
would, nonetheless, wish to reserve my position in the
light of the outstanding document.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, of course.
MS. O'SULLIVAN: I am in a similar situation.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, of course.
MR. RAFFERTY: I have questions, Mr. Chairman.
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Q. MR. RAFFERTY: Good morning, Mr. Prenty. My name is Neil 256
Rafferty, and I appear on behalf of Mr. Keeley, also known
as Kevin Fulton. I don't think you have seen me before,
sir, is that correct?
A. I am looking at surprise, yes. I can hear you --
Q. Sorry, I am very sorry about that, Mr. Prenty. Mr. Prenty, 257
this is the -- as it were, prior to my increased role in
this case, I have never actually asked you any questions.
A. I understand that.
Q. You understand that? 258
A. Yes.
Q. But in relation to the points that have been raised here 259
this morning, I want to go over a few things with you. In
relation to -- can we start with the McAnulty abduction.
Do you recall that clearly, sir, and you were involved in
the investigation, isn't that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Was, to the best of your knowledge and recollection, Owen 260
Corrigan involved in that investigation in any way?
A. Not as far as I remember. There is no statement from him
on file, I don't think, and there is no reference to him in
the investigation.
Q. And document 121A is based upon a C77, is that correct? 261
A. Well, I haven't the document before me.
Q. It's a précis of the document you have just seen? 262
A. Yes.
Q. And that appears to be a précis of a C77 put forward by 263
Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan?
A. Yes.
Q. In relation to that information, is there anything in that 264
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information that was new or wouldn't have been known simply
from sitting around Dundalk CID?
A. That's precisely what I have indicated.
Q. Now, we have been through Detective Sergeant Corrigan's C77 265
output for 1985, and I'm not going to bore you with that,
but to the best of your knowledge and recollection, you
have a gripe about how he filled out those intelligence
forms, don't you?
A. Well, not particularly, but I would have -- I would have
more a gripe with the people who received them and put
weight on them, if you know what I mean.
Q. A lot of it was tittle-tattle? 266
A. Pardon?
Q. A lot of it was tittle-tattle? 267
A. I would consider it rubbish, really.
Q. Does the phrase 'intelligence pollution' mean anything to 268
you?
A. Say that again.
Q. Does the phrase 'intelligence pollution' mean anything to 269
you?
A. Not really, no. But I have an idea what you're getting at.
Q. It's a concept whereby somebody, to show how important they 270
are, puts in intelligence nonsense about things like some
member of the INLA getting married. It shows how
productive they are without actually giving any
intelligence, that's what intelligence pollution is?
A. Well, that seemed to go down well with certain people in
Headquarters, that if you sent in -- it didn't matter what
you sent in, but sent in C77s.
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Corrigan was sending up to Headquarters?
A. Well, they speak for themselves, I think, you know.
Q. They probably do. Now, in relation to -- can you fathom or 272
can you think for one minute why a garda who possibly had a
line on where Mr. McAnulty was being held, would not share
that information with the detectives actually investigating
the abduction?
A. I would.
Q. Can you think of a reason why he wouldn't do that?273
A. It never existed.
Q. So what you are suggesting is that Owen Corrigan's 274
intelligence about that never existed; that it was a
tag-line put on a C77 to show how important he was, is that
a fair summation of that?
A. That'd be right.
MR. RAFFERTY: Can I reserve any further on Mr. McAnulty
until we see the other C77 that's illegible, sir.
CHAIRMAN: Certainly.
MR. RAFFERTY: But can I go on to ask about Peter and Iris
Robinson. Do you recall you were asked about that earlier
this morning, sir?
A. Yes.
Q. And is it correct that you were the officer in charge of 275
detailing security for that?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you at any stage detail Owen Corrigan to that detail? 276
A. Not to my knowledge, but it's a long time ago and I am
pretty certain that I didn't.
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Q. I think you said 99 percent certain that you wouldn't have 277
done that. You also said, "Apart from that, another
sergeant, a very competent sergeant was detailed"?
A. Yes.
Q. And I don't want you to name that officer, but -- 278
A. He is deceased now.
Q. He is deceased. 279
A. Yes.
Q. Well... 280
And to the best of your knowledge and recollection, that's
who you detailed as the sergeant in charge?
A. That would be it.
Q. So, when Sergeant Corrigan says that he was in charge of 281
looking after Peter Robinson, have you a comment on that?
A. I would dispute it.
Q. You'd dispute it. Would you go as far as to say it was 282
absolute nonsense?
A. Well, I have said who I would have detailed for the duty,
and you can draw your own conclusions from it.
Q. Yes. Well, certainly a man who has very modestly described 283
himself as the jewel in the crown of An Garda Siochana,
why, sir, would you not pick such a super detective to
guard Peter Robinson?
A. Well, that would be his description. It wouldn't be mine.
Q. Would you, from your personal knowledge of Detective 284
Sergeant Corrigan, would you describe him as a modest man?
A. No.
Q. Would you describe him as a fantasist in some ways? 285
A. Well, his manner of dealing with the truth would -- always
gave me cause for concern.
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Q. A fantasist? 286
A. Yeah, well...
Q. You see, somebody else has been called a fantasist and an 287
intelligence pollution in this case. I am just drawing --
asking you, is that your opinion of retired Detective
Sergeant Owen Corrigan?
A. Well, I have -- in all my service in Dundalk, and I was
there from 1969 right through the early days in the
troubles when Corrigan wasn't there, right up until I
retired in '95, and, to the best of my recollection, I
never saw Sergeant Corrigan arrive at the Garda station
with a prisoner.
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is that right?
A. Well, he wasn't very good at that either, I can tell you.
Q. Now, can I just finish off -- if My Friend asked me for the 289
reference, I'd get it for him, but a guard gave evidence
sometime ago, and I can't just turn it up at the moment but
I will, and he described Owen Corrigan -- and this is about
firearms training, now, I want to ask you; it's common case
that he wasn't -- or should be common case that he wasn't
eligible to carry firearms, isn't that right, at the time
of Peter Robinson, yes?
A. As far as I remember, yes.
Q. And you would only detail officers that were authorised to 290
carry firearms?
A. Yes.
Q. And that's a further reason why you think he wasn't 291
detailed?
A. Correct.
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Q. We have the evidence of an officer who described him, 292
Corrigan, as being chancy, and when asked to give an
example of that, he said, "Well, I did firearms training
with him and we had to get a certain score and I turned
around to see him poking his pencil through the target."
Did Owen Corrigan have a problem passing firearms, to your
knowledge?
A. He had been put off the range on more than one occasion for
mishandling of firearms, and what he -- I know what you are
talking about, that was common knowledge.
Q. And is that the sort of chancy individual he is? 293
A. That about --
Q. -- sums him up? 294
A. Yes.
MR. RAFFERTY: Thank you very much. I reserve my right to
cross-examine further, sir.
CHAIRMAN: Of course. Any re-examination, Mr. Dillon?
MR. DILLON: If I could reserve my re-examination once
everything is in place.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr. Prenty. I am very
grateful to you.
THE WITNESS THEN WITHDREW.
MR. DILLON: We have one further witness for you today.
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CHAIRMAN: Yes, and I think we should move on to him now.
MR. DILLON: Mr. Valentine will be taking this witness.
MR. VALENTINE: Chairman, just, I suppose I should -- it's
twenty to one. I don't anticipate that this witness -- I
won't be much more than twenty minutes, but I would
probably suggest that we should carry straight through,
subject to the views of everybody else.
CHAIRMAN: Let's carry through with him, if everybody
doesn't mind sitting past one o'clock.
MR. VALENTINE: I should indicate that, at the end of the
witness, there are a few small matters which I need to deal
with in terms of reading certain matters into the record,
and that will only take five minutes, Chairman.
I call Michael McGill, Chairman.
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MICHAEL McGILL, HAVING BEEN SWORN, WAS EXAMINED BY
MR. VALENTINE AS FOLLOWS:
MR. VALENTINE: Good afternoon, Mr. McGill.
A. Good afternoon.
Q. I think in the late 1980s you were a Higher Officer, which 295
is a senior Customs officer, operating out of the
Investigation Branch headquarters in Dublin, the Customs
Investigation Branch?
A. That's correct, yeah.
Q. I wonder could you just, for the Chairman, give an overview 296
of your role in Customs at that time?
A. Chairman, just at that time, when I joined the
Investigation Branch, probably in late 1977, my first
function was to get involved in the investigation of grain
smuggling, that was between the Republic of Ireland and
Northern Ireland, and that smuggling, just by way of
explanation, it was a fraud on EU funds at the time,
because there was a price differential between the price of
grain in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland; the
EU paid a subsidy on each load of grain that was exported
south to north, and I think it was referred to there
earlier. Part of the fraud was that the grain was exported
to the North of Ireland and run straight back down the road
again, or, alternatively, it was just put into a grain
store, it didn't even make its way as far as the border,
and companies were claiming large amounts money at that
time, large amounts of money in subsidies that they weren't
entitled to. And that was what I was tasked to
investigate.
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Q. I think you indicate in your statement that sheds which 297
straddled the border played a particular role in grain
smuggling?
A. That's correct. There was sheds, particularly in Edenappa
Road, that were used extensively for to hide the grain
coming back down. A truck could be driven in one side,
could be left there and taken out on the southern side and
driven back down the road again, so it was very, very
difficult to detect or monitor.
Q. Could you give the Chairman an overview of the legal 298
framework within which you acted operationally, so to
speak?
A. Well, at that time, there were two legal frameworks which
we operated; particularly for the grain, we operate under
an EU legal framework because this was an EU subsidy, we
operated under EU legislation which allowed us -- under EU
mutual assistance legislation, it allowed us to go into
Northern Ireland and to work alongside our colleagues in
the north as far back as then, and it allowed them to come
south and work alongside us in the south. Effectively,
what it meant, that they could be present -- or we could be
present in the north, but we couldn't actively participate,
i.e. we couldn't get involved in surveillance or we
couldn't question a suspect without their say-so.
Q. And in terms of a major Customs operation, am I correct in 299
saying that the powers of search and seizure were powers
vested in the Customs and not, for example, in the Garda
Siochana?
A. That's correct, in any of the -- particularly the grain
operations at that time, the Customs authorities, north and
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south, would be the lead agencies because they were the
competent authorities for the legislation governing that EU
fraud.
Q. So what was the role of An Garda Siochana and the Irish 300
Army respectively in such operations?
A. Well, particularly An Garda Siochana, they would provide a
backup role. They would provide security where that was
required, particularly in big operations in sensitive
areas, the Gardaí would be there to provide assistance and
backup to us.
Q. But effectively, Customs was the lead agency, so to speak? 301
A. Effectively, the lead agency. And where you would have
searches such as the one you mentioned, all documentation
would be taken away and would be further examined and
analysed by the Customs authorities.
Q. You also indicate in your statement that you, as Customs 302
officers, tried to hold yourselves, sort of, so to speak,
at a remove from the other security agencies of the state.
Can you just elaborate on that for the Chairman?
A. Absolutely, I mean, indeed as we do today, because, I mean,
we are mandated and the way we see it is to counteract
smuggling activities, and, indeed, fraud on EU subsidies.
Whether it's being done by people associated with the IRA
or people not associated with the IRA, was immaterial to
us; we just saw it as criminal activity and that's what we
looked at. The job of looking after terrorism was one that
we always believed, and still do, is for An Garda Siochana.
Q. And what's the practical manifestation of that attempt to 303
hold yourself at a remove? I mean, what does it actually
mean, in practice?
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A. For us, at all times, I mean, we have operated -- we have
operated in an unarmed capacity, and there was talk about
this earlier on, in all areas around the border, right in
the areas that would be considered very dangerous and very
sensitive on the basis that we were there doing a
particular job. We weren't there looking at a terrorism;
we were an agency looking at smuggling, counteracting
smuggling.
Q. You just indicated there that terrorism and smuggling was 304
not synonymous. I think you referred in your statement to
your opinion that one well-known smuggling family weren't,
to the best of your knowledge, involved with the IRA, is
that correct?
A. Absolutely. I mean, as I said, at the time we would have
been there and we would have investigated, there would have
been a number of individuals who would have been prolific,
particularly in the grain smuggling at the time, and
certainly, from our knowledge, indeed, which may not be
great at the time, they would not have been involved in the
IRA. We certainly didn't see them as that.
Q. I wonder could you tell the Chairman what you know about 305
'Ops Amazing', 'Operation Amazing'?
A. 'Operation Amazing', just to go back, Chairman, as I said,
we were involved in grain investigations on both the
southern side of the land frontier and on the northern
side, and the investigations on the northern side were
largely conducted from Glasgow, with a large input from Her
Majesty's Revenue and Customs in Belfast. As part of that,
it was decided to have an operation, as it were, like a
pendulum movement, using both authorities at the same time,
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so it was called 'Operation Amazing' purely because of the
word 'maize' in the -- that's what we were dealing with at
the time. So, the operation involved simultaneous raids
north on those sheds, on one particular shed there - there
was a number of them on the border, but, at the same time,
they would -- Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs along with
police and army coming in from the northern side, and we
were going into the southern side, we were being backed up
by the Gardaí, and I think the army may have been there on
that particular day as well. We went in, as I said, at a
particular time. The shed was straddling the border. So
Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs searched the northern
side and we searched the southern side, and there was a
line on that floor there where they represented the border,
and we didn't cross on that particular morning.
Q. I think that operation took place in November 1988, is that 306
correct?
A. November 1988, yes, indeed it was, yes.
Q. And the 'Operation Amazing' was confined to grain or maize? 307
A. It was confined -- it was confined, I suppose to be more
precise, it was confined to a fraud on EU funds as a result
of grain smuggling north and south of the border.
Q. I think, then, in late 1988, you moved from that 308
responsibility?
A. I moved from that and I moved in to take charge of a unit
which was looking at hydrocarbon oil smuggling in around
the border area as well.
Q. And in that capacity, did that bring you operationally into 309
contact with Murphys in Ballybinaby?
A. It did, indeed, yes, quite a bit of our time -- at that
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time, we would have been aware that there was a
considerable amount of smuggling going on, and it was
certainly -- they had premises at Hackballscross was being
used to facilitate that, and we would have been involved;
indeed, we had a seizure of a tanker of oil, I think it was
in late '88, from the Murphys, and that was a subject of
condemnation proceedings in '89, which the goods were
condemned and forfeited to the State.
Q. And that seizure in late 1988 of Murphys, was that a joint 310
operation with HMRC?
A. No, that particular one wasn't. And indeed, we had a
further operation in '89, about April '89; they would have
been done at the time by ourselves on the -- from the
south, and, indeed, they would have been organised and led
from the investigation area in Landsdowne road, and it
would have been done purely by the south, because, again,
there would be a big logistics in trying to organise -- a
joint operation like that wasn't something you could
organise very easily.
Q. And when you refer to an operation in April 1989, what was 311
the nature of the operation in April 1989?
A. Well, again, basically we had received, again, intelligence
that there was a lot of activity going on in and around the
yard in Ballybinaby, so we took a team up to that area, we
did surveillance in the area. We confirmed that, yes,
there was a lot of activity there, and, as a consequence of
that, I think we seized about six, seven tankards of fuel
coming out of Murphys' yard in Ballybinaby.
Q. Would there have been much cross-border -- would there have 312
been any cross-border element of that particular
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investigation at all?
A. Well the thing -- basically, again I cannot remember
precisely because, unlike a lot of people, I don't have
records going back that far, but there would have been a
constant flow of intelligence from her Majesty's Revenue
and Customs in Belfast to ourselves and vice versa; we
would have worked very, very closely at that time.
Q. Where did Customs get their intelligence from as to what 313
was happening south of the border?
A. I don't know. I mean I can only speculate that that would
have come from the security forces who were operating in
the border area. Again, we would never discuss precisely
-- it's just a rule in the intelligence world that you take
what you get and you don't really, do you know what I mean,
question somebody as to where they got it.
Q. Did you -- did Customs rely heavily on An Garda Siochana 314
for intelligence information about movements in that border
area?
A. Not particularly, no. Again, we operated -- again, we
operated quite separately. I think our roles were quite
separate at the time. We would have had our own
intelligence. I think, as I said, at that time
intelligence was something that I mean we didn't even tell
our own people a lot of time the intelligence. Again, it's
very sensitive in itself. Even to this day, intelligence
may not often be yours to give to other people, so we would
have operated very, very tightly.
Q. I think you made a reference there in your evidence to the 315
Customs carrying out their own surveillance. Did you have
your own surveillance unit, effectively?
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A. Well, not as organised as the National Surveillance Unit
but yes, we had our own surveillance unit that we did our
own surveillance work.
Q. So Irish Customs carried out -- would you have carried out 316
covert surveillance in areas such as Ballybinaby or in
border areas in Co. Louth?
A. What I would say to you is carried out border surveillance
in the border areas.
Q. You made a reference to how tightly intelligence was held, 317
and you do say in your statement that "the Customs had
their own intelligence and we did not trust anyone, even
our own." Why was that?
A. Like I said, I mean we don't -- I mean, do you know what I
mean, when you are working in an area like that, given the
times that were in it, I mean, look, if you have piece of
intelligence, if you tell five people you are fairly sure
that you are okay. If you tell 15, there is a very good
chance that somebody, inadvertently or otherwise, will
talk. I mean, you could ruin a month's work by
intelligence getting into the wrong hands. And that's --
so for that reason, it was kept... And the other reason
being that if we got intelligence from our colleagues in
Northern Ireland, that wasn't our intelligence to give out.
I mean we had -- it was ours to operate but not to give out
to somebody else. So we would be very, very -- again as I
said, you always had to be very careful at that time and
the less people knew about what you were doing the better.
Q. Do you ever recall there being a particular concern in 318
terms of the leaking of information as regards any
individual Customs officer or any member of An Garda
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Siochana?
A. No. Look, again at that time there were whispers in the
border area about people being loose, about both -- about a
member of the Garda Siochana and indeed possibly one of our
own, do you know what I mean, being loose. But one thing I
can say to the Tribunal is that it's not any of the
individuals that are here today.
Q. And when you say there was, there were rumours about a 319
member of An Garda Siochana being loose, is that on the
smuggling front or --
A. It was very flippant around that time and again I wouldn't
have put a lot of weight -- it would just be a warning more
so than put any weight into that.
Q. Did the nature of the rumour relate to smuggling or more to 320
subversive or --
A. No, no, the nature of the rumour at the time related to
grain smuggling.
Q. To grain smuggling? 321
A. That's all, yeah.
Q. And just to reiterate, the Garda officer identified in that 322
rumour was none of the three parties with representation
here?
A. Absolutely none of the three.
CHAIRMAN: That makes that clear. Thank you.
MR. VALENTINE: Very good. Now, just focusing again on
the, on this period of spring 1989. The Chairman has heard
evidence from Witness M, a former officer of Her Majesty's
Revenue and Customs, I think you know who Witness M is, is
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that correct?
A. That's correct, yeah.
Q. And he gave evidence that he was scheduled to meet Harry 323
Breen on Tuesday the 21st March. I think his evidence was
to the effect that that meeting was set up during the
course of a telephone conversation with Alan Mains the
previous day. Did you know anything about that meeting?
A. Absolutely not, no.
Q. Do you recall having any contact with Witness M or any of 324
his colleagues around that time in relation to a proposed
-- in proposed to a) information about what was going on in
Murphy's farm or, b) any proposed operation against
Murphy's farm?
A. No, I had no contact at that time, absolutely not.
Q. Would you expect to have contact if there was going to be 325
an operation in relation to Murphy's farm?
A. Yes, if there was going to be an operation, and
particularly an oil operation, yes, we would have expected,
because we were the lead agency and because those
operations, at that time, would have been organised from
the Investigation Branch Headquarters in Dublin, and I had
the unit at that time that would have been dealing with oil
smuggling and I would have expected that, and possibly what
would have happened there, and again I can only speculate,
would be that if that information had come back, it would
have come in to her Majesty's Revenue and Customs in
Belfast who would have made contact with us and met us
either in Belfast, probably in Dublin, to discuss any
proposed operations.
Q. And if any agency wanted to establish the exact facts in 326
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relation to the movements of oil tankers in or out of
Murphy's farm, who was the best person to go to to get that
information?
A. Well I would suggest that the best people to go to at that
time would have been the British Army. But obviously we
didn't have that type of information or intelligence or
access to that information.
Q. I think when Witness M was giving evidence, Mrs. Laverty 327
put to him a document which is -- I might just put it to
you to get your observations in relation to it. It's a
letter that was written by an official of the Northern
Ireland Office and it referred to the Secretary of State --
it referred to a meeting dinner that took place in Stormont
on the 7th March 1989 and a subsequent security policy
meeting in Northern Ireland. And it said: "The Secretary
of State mentioned observations about 'Slab' Murphy and his
smuggling operations in South Armagh at the SPM yesterday.
I have looked into the particular incident mentioned. 28
tankers over a 60-hour period netting an alleged profit of
14,000 per vehicle. I now report back as requested.
The survey was made by the Glasdrumman Observation Tower
(G30) during a completely random survey between 01:00 hours
on the 27th February and 12:00 hours on the 1st March 1989.
The bald facts that emanate from the survey are as noted by
the Secretary of State and there is nothing further to add
except to confirm that the tankers contents and the alleged
profit were as a result of informed speculation rather than
firm evidence.
The question the Secretary of State raised specifically who
was told and what, if anything, was done about it is
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answered as follows: Before embarking on the detail
however, it is important to establish the context of
Murphy's operations. You will, I know, be aware that
Murphy has been conducting his illicit business for some
years. He has, by a number of methods, thwarted several
attempts including concerted RUC and Garda efforts to shut
him down. All this is well documented fact and such has
been his success that the Sunday Times devoted most of the
colour supplement to explaining his modus operandi.
With this in mind, and recalling the GOCs advice at the SPM
yesterday that only a cumulative rather than an individual
exposure of Murphy's smuggling will prove effective. The
observation tower survey was one of a number of surveys
that are directed at Murphy's operations. The information
was collected manually by G30 and passed directly to 1 RRF
Intelligence Cell in Bessbrook Mill on the 1st March. That
information was shared routinely with the RUC liaison
officer in the mill, entered on the military computer,
Crucible, on 2nd March and then disseminated quite widely
to military and RUC in addresses in 1RRF intelligence
summary on the 5th March. The point behind this is that
the survey was not designed for immediate executive action.
Murphys's expertise has moved well beyond this point of
being disturbed by periodic interception of fuel lorries.
It will require a plan of considerable depth and subtlety,
possibly involving additional legislation and certainly
much cooperation from the south finally to remove Murphy
from the map."
Sorry, it's HMG 5.
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Just in relation to that -- well one of the things that
strikes me about that is that there is no reference in all
of that to the role of her Majesty's Revenue and Customs.
That they speak of RUC and army activity into that and that
information being circulated among RUC and army but it
almost seems that HMRC are nowhere to be seen on the pitch.
Have you any observation to make?
A. Well again I'd probably go back to what I said earlier.
They would hold the same belief as we had. They were
dealing with a smuggling problem. I think that might have
been done in the context of a terrorism problem, but the
HMRC, and indeed ourselves, would have seen ourselves
working at a smuggling problem and if the two overlapped,
yes, we would be there to do it. But there are a lot of
activities that possibly we would have nothing whatsoever
to do because they wouldn't impinge on the competencies
that we had at the time.
Q. There was evidence from Witness 27, who was at that dinner 328
with the late Harry Breen, that the Secretary of State was
kind of very agitated in relation to the numbers of lorries
which were alleged to be moving in and out of Murphy's farm
and demanded that something be done. And that direction
was in the direction of the RUC and there was a sense,
Witness 27 reported, that both he and the late Harry Breen
were - felt that the Secretary of State effectively was
over-stepping the line by directing an operation -- giving
political direction effectively to what would be a police
operation. Is it more likely, according to your evidence,
that any operation in relation to the movement of tankers
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would have to have been an HMRC operation?
A. Yes, absolutely. At the end of the day -- because if you
were to go in to look at or to deal with a smuggling
problem, be it in Ballybinaby or anywhere else, any seizure
and subsequent confiscation of fuel or oil or any
subsequent prosecutions in relation to that particular
activity would be done under finance legislation, and
finance legislation in the south Customs had competent
authority. And indeed similarly in Northern Ireland, the
legislation that dealt with fuel smuggling and the
activities surrounding that, HMRC had the primary
competency in Northern Ireland. As a consequence, any
operation would have had to have the two agencies there in
the forefront on those.
Q. But arising from this, you don't recall any contact between 329
yourself and any of the Customs officers in the North in
relation to these matters and in relation to what was going
on at Murphy's farm?
A. Absolutely. As I said, I would have had contact regularly
with Customs in Northern Ireland, indeed with some of the
people you referred to there around that time, but any such
operation was not discussed with me, no.
Q. Very good. I note that in your statement you make the 330
comment that in relation to the Murphys, that they were
more inclined to reactive action as opposed to pre-emptive
action. I wonder could you explain what you mean by that
for the Chairman, please?
A. I suppose that was in answer to a question. Again, I would
have operated quite extensively in and around the Murphy
compound in Ballybinaby over a period of time and would
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have dealt with the Murphys on a regular basis, and as I
said, I mean, you know, they never -- they didn't preempt
anything that we were doing, but certainly they did react
on one occasion to us being in and around there. I wasn't
there personally but my colleagues were.
Q. And just to be clear, if HMRC were to mount an operation 331
against Murphys, by necessity, would the southern Customs
have to be involved?
A. Absolutely, yes, absolutely.
Q. I note in terms of the Gardaí who you dealt with regularly 332
from the Dundalk area, who would you have had most contact
with?
A. Well, I think the people I would have most contact with was
Inspector Dan Prenty, who was here today, and indeed I
think Chief Superintendent John Nolan, and I would have
found both of them to be very honourable and decent people.
Q. Now, once you moved, at the end of '88 into the area of oil 333
smuggling rather than grain smuggling, did that end your
involvement in 'Operation Amazing'?
A. Well, by and large, I mean it ended what -- the active
side, because the investigations on the southern side had
by and large been completed. They continued for sometime
in Northern Ireland afterwards, there was some further
operations and arrests but they were on the northern side
of the border.
Q. I think you referred to those. There were arrests in May 334
1989, including the arrest of John McAnulty who was
mentioned in evidence earlier this morning, you may have
heard that. Were you aware of those arrests?
A. I was aware of them at the time but was not involved in any
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way in the operation.
Q. Did you know John McAnulty? 335
A. I didn't know him personally but knew of him.
Q. Knew of him? 336
A. Yes.
Q. Was he involved in grain smuggling? 337
A. Yes, he would have been, as I said, on the periphery if not
directly, yes.
Q. And I think you state in your statement that "My belief at 338
the time is that he was providing information to HM (C&E)
and not the RUC."
A. I think that was again in response to a question that -- I
would never have any information that he would have been,
would have been talking or providing information to the
RUC, absolutely not.
Q. But there was some -- 339
A. Again, it was my belief, but again, as I said, in the
intelligence world you never say well, you know, John
McAnulty is up here talking to me giving me good
intelligence. That just wouldn't happen. You ask me why I
have that belief. I couldn't tell you but...
Q. You also say in your statement you had an awareness of the 340
activities of Brian Ruddy. Could you just outline that to
the Chairman, please?
A. Again, I would have, during the course of my investigations
I would have come across Brian Ruddy as well and I would
have had occasion to search a premises belonging to him; it
was in relation to counterfeit medicines and hormones.
Q. And just one final area, Mr. McGill, I'd like to explore 341
with you is, you deal in your statement as well with the
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smuggling of cars in that area at that time, and I wonder
you could just explain to the Chairman what the scam, so to
speak was or?
A. Again, Chairman, there was, I suppose, again going back to
that time, I would have dealt with two particular scams.
One of them in particular would have been the issuing of
forged documents. It was an old document called an MV4 at
the time. It's all changed now. And where there was bogus
documents issued and people took in high valued cars, went
around to various County Council offices, produced the
bogus documents and got the cars registered without paying
the appropriate duty. That was one method. And the other
method would have been, again, where we found on occasions
where cars, it might have been crashed here or written off
for one reason or another, a car would have been smuggled
in from Northern Ireland or the UK and a southern plate --
what we call ringing the car -- a southern plate put on it
and maybe the chassis number would be scraped off it so we
couldn't identify it when we went to look at the car. They
would have been the two main ways of evading the duty.
Q. And in relation to the importation of cars, can you just 342
explain what the paper trail would be in the case of a
legitimate importation?
A. A legitimate importation would show that the car was
purchased, say, let's say you'd have a purchase for a car
in the jurisdiction, be it Northern Ireland or in the UK,
you would have the documents relating to that car, the
registration documents, whatever was needed. You take
those with you to the nearest Customs station because the
car would have to be what we call declared at the nearest
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station and where the duty, I think -- again my memory
isn't good, but I think it was an ad valorem duty, it would
be a rate of duty based on the value of the car that would
have to be paid at that particular time.
MR. VALENTINE: Thank you very much, Mr. McGill. If you'd
answer any questions My Friends have.
MR. COFFEY: I wish to ask some questions, Mr. Chairman.
THE WITNESS WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. COFFEY AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. COFFEY: Mr. Chairman, I appear on behalf of retired 343
Sergeant Colton, and can you tell us when did you retire
from the Revenue authorities?
A. I am still working with them.
Q. Oh, you are still there? 344
A. I am still working there.
Q. I am obliged. Just for the record, I will repeat one or 345
two questions. First of all, just to confirm, I appear on
behalf of retired Sergeant Colton.
A. Okay.
Q. And you have kindly confirmed that in fact you are a still 346
a serving member of the Revenue authorities?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And do your current duties still involve going up to the 347
border areas?
A. Well my current duties still involve hydrocarbon oil, and I
mean the problem now is, as we know, it's oil laundering
rather than smuggling, so I'm still involved at that side,
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yes.
Q. And was oil laundering always a part of the oil smuggling? 348
A. Well it was always there, it was always there, laundering
was always there but smuggling always -- it varied. At the
time, going back to when we are talking, the prices in the
south were considerably dearer than the prices in the
north, so consequently the smuggling was north to south.
Whereas in the mid to late nineties the prices changed
around, so you had a large smuggling problem from south to
north then, because, again, the economic circumstances
dictate which direction the product goes, be it oil or
anything else.
Q. Is it fair to say, Mr. McGill, that smuggling at all times 349
has involved potentially and actually large sums of money,
either depriving the State, north and south, of large sums
of revenue and illegally enriching smugglers?
A. That's very accurate, absolutely, yes.
Q. And given the -- given that confirmation that large sums of 350
money are involved, would you agree that smugglers would go
to great lengths, first of all, to protect their illegal
contraband goods and to put a lot of planning into the
whole exercise of smuggling?
A. Absolutely, I would agree with that, yes.
Q. And again, can you tell the Tribunal, in the event of any 351
seizures made by the Revenue either north or south, would
the smugglers make any efforts to retrieve any of the
impounded goods?
A. Yes, there has been on occasion, again I cannot give you
specifics but yes, there have been attempts to rescue goods
from time to time, yes.
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Q. And on occasion would the Customs officials be either 352
threatened with violence or suffer actual violence in those
circumstances?
A. Again, that has happened in the past, yes. I mean --
Q. I think it's common case that Customs cars were rammed or 353
--
A. They were rammed, and indeed we have had officers assaulted
on the border.
Q. Assaulted? 354
A. Yeah.
Q. So this was an ongoing personal risk that Customs officials 355
had to endure?
A. Yeah. Well, yes.
Q. Now, I think that at the beginning of your direct evidence 356
you mentioned the Edenappa Road, am I correct in that?
A. That is correct, yes.
Q. And would you accept that that was, if you like, a 357
recognised smuggler's route going north to south or south
to north?
A. I would of course, yes, exactly.
Q. And again, in keeping with your evidence that planning 358
would go in to smuggling exercises. Would that planning
involve surveillance of Customs cars, police cars, either
RUC or Garda cars, or, if you like, official traffic moving
on that road?
A. It's quite possible. Again, I'll be very honest, I cannot
say yes or no to that because, again, I didn't operate in
that area. What we normally did, we planned our operations
in Dublin, we went up and we did a job and we pulled back
out again after three, four days to a week, or whatever.
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Q. Well, did you have, your unit, did it have direct working 359
relationships with the Customs officials based in Dundalk,
for instance?
A. Oh, of course we would have had, yes.
Q. And I take it that Customs officials based in Dundalk would 360
have long term service in the Dundalk area?
A. Absolutely, yeah.
Q. And that service would involve patrolling, say, from Omeath 361
over to south Monaghan, say, for instance?
A. Correct, yeah.
Q. And is it fair to say that such local officers, just by the 362
passage of time, would become well known to smugglers and
people associated with smuggling?
A. Absolutely. It was -- of course it would, it was in their
interests to know who was in the local stations.
Q. And can we take it, as a matter of course, that in order to 363
facilitate the exercise of smuggling, smugglers would want
to avoid coming across road checkpoints mounted by the RUC,
the Gardaí or the British army?
A. They wouldn't want to come in contact with any authority of
any description.
Q. And therefore they would be monitoring those services 364
independent of the Customs?
A. Of course, yeah.
Q. And again from that point of view, the Edenappa Road, you 365
have already acknowledged, was an important route?
A. Yes, yes, particularly for grain smuggling, yeah.
Q. And consistently so since you came up there in the late 366
eighties?
A. Yes, indeed it was, yeah.
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Q. And just if I may, you said, indeed, that you weren't 367
disposed to sharing intelligence with your own...
A. Well I mean, and I'm saying that I wasn't disposed really
to sharing intelligence only with a very, very small group,
be it our own or be it anybody else.
Q. Would information be shared with local officers? 368
A. Such information would be, yeah.
Q. You mentioned the facility whereby under EU legislation 369
Revenue officials could move from south to north or north
to south?
A. Yeah.
Q. Did that facility also attach to the local Customs men 370
based in Dundalk say, or Newry?
A. No, that would, by and large, be -- it does nowadays, but
by and large, at that time it would have been the two
investigation branches that worked with each other very
closely. There would have been a good work relationship
between Customs north and south, but we would -- we would
have worked the EU legislation Investigation Branch to
Investigation Branch; it was done for the purposes of
investigation.
Q. And from the point of view of the personal safety of 371
Revenue officials, was there any one area of smuggling more
riskier than others? I mean if I could put it this way:
was the personal security of Customs officials at greater
risk if they were investigating oil smuggling over and
above grain smuggling or were all --
A. I suppose, I mean the personal security issue was, and it
was more about the people who were dealing with than the
commodity, and certainly we would have had more trouble
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dealing with oil smuggling, let's put it that way, than we
would have had with grain smuggling.
Q. Evidence has been given by other witnesses that there was, 372
if you like, a dual membership, some people who were in the
IRA were actually engaged in smuggling themselves, and that
they, if you like, engaged in IRA activities at some point
in the day and then went on to drive lorries, smuggling and
so forth. Would you accept that?
A. Well that would have been a commonly held belief, yeah, at
the time, and I had no reason to disbelieve that, yeah.
MR. COFFEY: Thank you, Mr. McGill.
THE WITNESS WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. RAFFERTY AS FOLLOWS:
MR. RAFFERTY: I'll be literally five minutes,
Mr. Chairman. Is there anyone else who?
Q. Sir, you have described smuggling, I think you used the 373
phrase not all smugglers were paramilitaries, is that
correct?
A. That would be our belief, yes.
Q. But it does follow, does it not, particularly in South 374
Armagh, that there was a significant paramilitary
involvement in smuggling?
A. Again, that would be our well held belief at that time,
yes.
Q. And in relation to how you operated and how HMRC operated, 375
would it be fair to say that in the eighties and nineties,
and even up to today, that if you were mounting operations
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in south Armagh or north Louth, that you may require police
backup?
A. Not may. We certainly would require police backup.
Q. Still to this day? 376
A. Still to this day, yes.
Q. So it really was a case where there was a significant 377
security threat to your officers?
A. The security threat was always there, but I mean, we, maybe
naively, but we always felt because they were there looking
at a smuggling operation that the threat possibly wasn't as
big as it might have been otherwise.
Q. You see, it's one of, I suppose, the admirable qualities of 378
both yourself and HMRC that, so some extent, you folks
looked upon yourselves as just doing your job about
smuggling?
A. Well that was our focus, yes.
Q. And tried to turn a blind eye to, I suppose, the reality, 379
that a lot of smuggling was connected with paramilitaries?
A. Well, we operated -- again we would be very conscious of
what we had a competency for and a competency for dealing
with terrorism or IRA activity would have been a Garda
competency, and so for that reason we stayed well away from
that.
Q. You stayed well away? 380
A. Yes.
Q. And understandably so, sir, you stayed well away from that. 381
Now, you indicated to My Friend Mr. Coffey, that oil
smuggling caused you more difficulties than grain
smuggling?
A. Yes.
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Q. Can I suggest to you that that was because, not to put a 382
tooth in it, 'Slab' Murphy was involved in the oil
smuggling; it was personnel rather than types of smuggling?
A. As I said, it was personnel, and again I'd have to be very
fair to everybody here, and yes, I can agree with that, but
it wasn't only 'Slab' Murphy.
Q. Not only 'Slab' Murphy, but he certainly was a major player 383
in oil smuggling in that area?
A. At that time, yes.
Q. And if you believe allegations that were made here, he was 384
also significantly involved in the IRA?
A. That allegation has been going around since I joined the
job.
Q. Since pussy was a cat, yes. Now, can I suggest to you that 385
in relation to smuggling in south Armagh, the IRA, in
particular, made money out of smuggling in south Armagh?
A. Again, that would have been -- again, it would have been
our belief but again, I could not -- if you asked me for
proof at any time, I couldn't give you it.
Q. And there was two ways that they made money: one was to do 386
it themselves and the other was to tax it.
A. And again that was -- that would be a commonly held belief
at the time, yes.
Q. And in order to tax something, you rely upon people to make 387
their tax return, don't you?
A. Yeah, yes.
Q. For example, a grain smuggler making £10,000 on a run pays 388
10 percent; he pays his money over?
A. Again, yeah, I am not -- I mean I really -- I don't know,
you are possibly right, I don't know.
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Q. Well, in your experience would I be close to the mark? 389
A. Well I mean, as I said, again it would be a belief at the
time that, yes, there was two ways of doing it.
Q. What happened, in your experience, to people who fell out 390
with paramilitaries and didn't pay their tax?
A. Well, to be very honest, I didn't have experience with
anybody who fell out and didn't pay their tax, do you know
what I mean? I mean, we just dealt -- the people we dealt
with, I mean they would never tell you -- even if they did
fall out, they would never tell you that, it's as simple as
that.
Q. Well, in relation to, would it be fair to say that in order 391
to, as it were, run the tax system, the IRA had a fairly
highly evolved intelligence network; they knew who were
smuggling in the area?
A. Well I think it's my belief that probably most people in
the border area knew exactly what was going on, other than
the authorities.
Q. So if somebody was smuggling -- I think that's actually 392
probably a fair point. Certainly the IRA would have their
ear to the ground for anybody smuggling on their patch who
wasn't paying tax?
A. Yeah, I will accept that, yeah.
Q. And if you fell out with the IRA, could you get yourself 393
abducted, kidnapped and a bit of a beating?
A. I don't really want to comment on that. I don't know. I
mean...
Q. That's fair enough. Lastly, you described people that you 394
dealt with, for example Dan Prenty?
A. Yes.
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Q. How did you describe him, sir? 395
A. As an honourable man, that's how I described him.
Q. Straightforward, honest man? 396
A. Straightforward, honest and honourable, yes.
MR. RAFFERTY: Thank you very much.
THE WITNESS WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. LEHANE AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. LEHANE: Good afternoon, sir. Just in relation to your 397
last question, am I correct in understanding your evidence
that you began your border operations, If I call it that,
in 1987?
A. That would be correct, yes.
Q. Okay. And during the course of your, if I call it your 398
border operations, you looked at issues of oil smuggling,
grain smuggling and all other types of smuggling, is that
right?
A. By and large. Well oil smuggling and grain smuggling in
particular, and indeed I'll mention hormones at the time,
and growth promoters.
Q. Just in relation to your evidence to intelligence 399
gathering, the Customs and Excise service had its own
sources of intelligence gathering?
A. Had its own, yes, we had our own, yes.
Q. And again, you were very careful of your sources because 400
you said you were very careful about who you shared
intelligence information with within your own organisation?
A. And that was no disrespect to anybody in there but yes,
that's the way we did our business, yes.
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Q. And would you regard your intelligence as competent, 401
subject to the rather flippant comment that was made a
moment ago about people on the ground knowing more than you
did, would you agree with me that you were fairly competent
at collecting intelligence?
A. Yes, at the time, yes.
Q. About who was doing what? 402
A. Yes.
Q. And in what volume? 403
A. Yes, absolutely, we would have a good idea.
MR. LEHANE: Many thanks.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
MR. VALENTINE: I have no questions.
CHAIRMAN: Anybody else have questions??
MR. VALENTINE: I have no questions in re-examination.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr. McGill. I am very
grateful to you for the very clear evidence you have given.
THE WITNESS THEN WITHDREW.
MR. VALENTINE: There is just one very brief matter which
arises, and it's just a matter which has come to the
attention and it deals with evidence in relation to the
travel arrangements of Sir John Hermon. Evidence in that
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regard has been heard by you, sir, by Mr. Terry Hynes,
Mr. Paddy O'Connell, Mr. Jimmy Spratt and Mr. Owen
Corrigan, and indeed today, on a separate matter, by Mr.
Prenty. But I'm just going to put into the record three
extracts from the autobiography of Mr. Hermon entitled
'Holding the Line' which Mr. Mills is kindly putting up on
the screen there.
And the first extract is on page 150. It relates to a
trip, and this is in respect of evidence given by Mr.
Spratt. It was put to Mr. Spratt that Sir John Hermon had
travelled to Dublin Airport to, in relation to his son who
was in America. Mr. Spratt said that he didn't have a son
in America, he had a daughter in America, and he said that
he never, in his experience, Sir John Hermon never
travelled through Dublin Airport.
In the middle of that page, page 150, paragraph beginning
"Since Jean and I had had little or no respite for two
years we decided to take an extended period of leave in the
United States. We timed our holiday to coincide with a
conference of the IACP (International Association of Chiefs
of Police) in Atlanta, Georgia from the 13th to the 18th
November 1982. We also wanted to visit Barbara and Kevin
in Florida..." -- and it's clear from elsewhere in the
autobiography that Barbara is indeed his daughter -- "...
primarily to reassure ourselves that they were settling
down happily into married life. Our arrangements were
finalised with departure booked from Dublin Airport early
on the 12th November and our return from Atlanta on the 6th
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December."
And overleaf, on page 151, Sir John Hermon recounts his
return on the 6th December. He deals with certain
atrocities that occurred in the intervening period. He
confirms, at the top of that page, that he departed for
Dublin, so that he travelled out of Dublin as is indicated
on the previous page, and then he deals with a number of
atrocities that occurred during his 26 days leave, and then
in the third paragraph he says that "It was in the
aftermath of this that Jean and I arrived back in Dublin
Airport on the morning of the 6th December. We were met by
our usual RUC drivers in the official car and had a Garda
escort to the border."
Also then in relation to Sir John Hermon's contact with
members of the guards who were involved in his escort, I'm
just going to read an extract from page 247. This recounts
the evening -- he is recounting here, his wife Jean died
and he is recounting the evening of his marriage to Lady
Sylvia Hermon, which was on the 31st December 1988, and in
the final paragraph of that page, he said: "Remaining
unorthodox to the end, Sylvia refused to change into her
going away outfit, preferring instead to wear her wedding
dress until midnight as the 31st December 1988 was the only
day she would wear it. We left Headquarters around 7 p.m.
and travelled to the border where we transferred to a Garda
car and went to begin our honeymoon in Dublin, probably the
last place anyone would have expected us to go."
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Obviously, sir -- Chairman, these extracts weren't put to
Mr. Spratt because the Tribunal wasn't aware of them at the
time, they weren't put to Mr. Spratt when he gave evidence,
so in fairness to him we sent Mr. Spratt a copy of these
extracts and asked him did he wish to comment on them in
any way, and yesterday the Tribunal received an e-mail from
Mr. Spratt which I think I'll just read into the record.
It's addressed to Ms. Walsh and says:
"Subsequent to my giving evidence the Tribunal furnished to
me extracts of the autobiography of Sir John Hermon
entitled 'Holding The Line' which Tribunal and counsel
intends to read into the record of the Tribunal and asked
me did I wish to make any comment on them.
These extracts indicate that Sir John Hermon and his wife
Lady Jean Hermon flew from Dublin Airport to the United
States of America on the 12th November 1982 en route to a
conference in Atlanta and a visit to his drawer Barbara and
her husband in Florida. The extracts indicate that the
Hermons arrived back in Dublin Airport on the 6th December
1982 where they were met by their usual RUC drivers in the
official car and had a garda escort to the border. The
extracts also indicate that on the 31st December 1988, on
the evening of his marriage to Lady Sylvia Hermon, they
both travelled to the border where they transferred to a
Garda car and went to begin their honeymoon in Dublin.
I was in the aware that the Hermons had travelled through
Dublin Airport on 12th November 1982 and the 6th December
1982. My third son was born in early October 1982. Due to
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working a considerable amount of overtime in the preceding
period, which was a very difficult period in the Troubles,
I was due a lot of leave. In late October, I commenced a
period of six or seven weeks leave. It seems that part of
this was arranged to correspond with the period of three
and a half weeks where Sir John Hermon was himself abroad
on holiday. At no time did I take Sir John Hermon to or
collect him from Dublin Airport.
In relation to Sir John Hermon's travel arrangements on the
evening of his marriage to Lady Sylvia on the 21st December
1988, as I indicated in my evidence to the Tribunal, my
tenure in the Chief Constable's personal security detail
ended sometime in early 1986. As I indicated in my
previous statement to the Tribunal, in latter years the
security around the Chief Constable was cut back somewhat
in that only one RUC travelled rather than two cars as had
been the case for most of my tenure.
I confirm that I am happy to return to the Tribunal to give
evidence in relation to the above, if so required.
Yours sincerely.
Jimmy Spratt. MLA."
Just in relation to that, Chairman, the Tribunal -- Mr.
Spratt isn't contesting the accuracy of anything in the
autobiography. The Tribunal doesn't propose to recall him
to give evidence in relation to what he has put in his
e-mail unless anyone feels that that's necessary.
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CHAIRMAN: I think that that puts the matter plainly to
bed. I think you'd agree with that Mr. Lehane? We can't
-- it's a side issue and we can't, you know, forever be
recalling this witness and that witness. That deals with
the matter of the points in Mr. Spratt's evidence that in
fact could be criticised by your client and he has now
conceded that they were not correct and this matter
clarifies that and I think that puts an end to it.
MR. LEHANE: I am just indicating my agreement. My
instructions are that in light of the extracts from Mr.
Hermon's autobiography that have been read into the record,
and in light of the evidence that had been given both by my
client and two other members of An Garda Siochana that the
late Sir Jack Hermon travelled south, that we don't feel
the need to cross-examine him if that is going to be
acceptable to the Tribunal, which of course you have just
indicated
CHAIRMAN: I am very grateful to you, thank you very much,
Mr. Lehane.
MR. VALENTINE: That concludes today's business, Chairman,
and hopefully if Mr. Lehane's client is in a position to
resume his evidence this day week on the 29th June...
CHAIRMAN: Yes, we are looking forward to that, Mr. Lehane,
and if any developments should arise, you will of course, I
am sure, keep us posted of them. Thank you very much.
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THE TRIBUNAL ADJOURNED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
''88 [2] - 67:6, 76:17'89 [3] - 67:7, 67:12'95 [1] - 59:10'Big [2] - 20:17, 20:25'Holding [2] - 90:6, 92:12'intelligence [2] - 56:16,
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65:23, 66:1, 66:19, 76:19
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92:17, 92:2913th [5] - 3:18, 3:20, 33:8,
33:25, 90:2314,000 [1] - 72:20148 [1] - 14:2214th [6] - 3:13, 3:22,
32:26, 33:25, 34:1, 34:26
15 [1] - 69:17150 [2] - 90:9, 90:18151 [1] - 91:315th [4] - 3:23, 33:25,
34:1, 34:26161 [1] - 18:2816th [5] - 3:24, 13:21,
33:8, 33:25, 34:217th [12] - 15:14, 15:18,
21:7, 26:16, 36:25, 37:6, 37:8, 37:12, 39:19, 40:13, 41:3, 43:12
18th [2] - 3:17, 90:231969 [1] - 59:81977 [1] - 62:141980s [1] - 62:61982 [6] - 90:24, 92:17,
92:21, 92:29, 92:301985 [1] - 56:51986 [8] - 3:11, 3:13,
8:23, 32:27, 33:1, 49:7, 50:13, 93:14
1987 [10] - 3:18, 3:20, 3:23, 3:24, 13:11, 13:19, 13:21, 33:8, 88:13
1988 [8] - 66:16, 66:18, 66:23, 67:9, 91:21, 91:25, 92:23, 93:12
1989 [13] - 15:14, 15:18, 21:7, 22:22, 24:3, 42:22, 44:15, 67:20, 67:21, 70:28, 72:14, 72:23, 76:27
1RRF [1] - 73:201st [2] - 72:23, 73:16
220 [1] - 50:2320/1 [2] - 10:15, 10:162012 [1] - 1:120th [4] - 13:19, 22:22,
29:121 [1] - 9:2221/1/1987 [1] - 9:1921st [2] - 71:4, 93:1122/1 [2] - 10:15, 10:1622/1/'87 [1] - 10:1722ND [1] - 1:123/1 [1] - 11:7239 [1] - 31:1624 [7] - 14:27, 14:28,
15:29, 17:9, 18:14, 18:25, 18:26
247 [1] - 91:1825 [1] - 50:23258 [1] - 4:126 [1] - 91:9267 [1] - 5:827 [2] - 74:19, 74:2527th [1] - 72:2328 [1] - 72:1828/1/'87 [2] - 9:21, 9:2329/1/1987 [1] - 11:729th [1] - 94:252nd [2] - 3:16, 73:19
330 [1] - 50:1431st [4] - 24:3, 91:21,
91:25, 92:2338 [3] - 10:15, 10:20,
10:24
55 [1] - 73:3053 [1] - 14:225th [1] - 73:21
66 [2] - 16:13, 17:296/10 [1] - 8:226/10/1986 [1] - 13:960-hour [1] - 72:1962 [1] - 31:156th [6] - 8:22, 90:30, 91:4,
91:12, 92:20, 92:29
77 [1] - 91:26
70 [2] - 3:30, 4:17th [2] - 3:11, 72:14
99.30 [1] - 18:1099 [1] - 58:199.9 [3] - 17:26, 37:23,
43:229:30 [2] - 16:3, 29:12
Aa.m [4] - 16:13, 17:15,
26:16, 37:8abducted [6] - 21:25,
37:4, 37:17, 37:21, 39:5, 87:25
abduction [9] - 17:2, 22:11, 22:13, 30:8, 37:7, 40:23, 41:2, 55:14, 57:7
ability [1] - 50:5able [2] - 14:6, 25:25abroad [1] - 93:6absolute [1] - 58:17absolutely [18] - 25:2,
47:24, 51:27, 64:20, 65:14, 70:23, 71:8, 71:14, 75:2, 75:19, 76:9, 77:15, 80:17, 80:23, 82:7, 82:14, 89:10
abuse [1] - 49:16accept [10] - 29:15,
33:21, 34:29, 36:23, 46:13, 46:20, 49:10, 81:17, 84:8, 87:23
acceptable [1] - 94:17access [1] - 72:7accident [2] - 49:23,
49:26accidents [1] - 49:20accompany [1] - 33:28according [1] - 74:29accordingly [1] - 50:27accuracy [1] - 93:26accurate [1] - 80:17acknowledge [2] - 38:28,
44:13acknowledged [2] - 45:8,
82:26acknowledging [2] -
43:17, 44:17acted [1] - 63:11action [3] - 73:22, 75:25,
75:26active [2] - 41:5, 76:20actively [1] - 63:22activities [7] - 30:25,
45:12, 64:22, 74:16, 75:11, 77:23, 84:6
activity [6] - 64:25, 67:23, 67:26, 74:5, 75:7, 85:21
actual [1] - 81:2ad [1] - 79:2add [1] - 72:25added [1] - 41:6
additional [2] - 35:26, 73:26
addressed [2] - 20:22, 92:9
addresses [1] - 73:20ADJOURNED [1] - 95:1administration [1] -
50:29admirable [1] - 85:12advice [1] - 73:10advisable [1] - 26:3advised [1] - 52:21afraid [1] - 47:12aftermath [1] - 91:11afternoon [3] - 62:4, 62:5,
88:10afterwards [1] - 76:23agencies [3] - 64:1,
64:18, 75:13agency [5] - 64:11, 64:12,
65:7, 71:19, 71:30agent [3] - 52:23, 52:30,
53:2agitated [1] - 74:21ago [3] - 57:29, 59:18,
89:3agree [11] - 5:21, 6:19,
32:11, 35:13, 53:12, 53:28, 80:19, 80:23, 86:5, 89:4, 94:2
agreed [4] - 6:19, 51:17, 51:18, 51:20
Agreement [1] - 3:12agreement [1] - 94:10Airport [8] - 90:12, 90:16,
90:29, 91:12, 92:16, 92:20, 92:29, 93:8
Alan [1] - 71:6alerted [5] - 19:24, 26:26,
26:27, 27:2, 27:11allegation [2] - 51:27,
86:12allegations [1] - 86:10alleged [3] - 72:19, 72:26,
74:22allowed [3] - 63:16,
63:17, 63:19almost [1] - 74:7alongside [2] - 63:18,
63:20alteration [1] - 49:17alternatively [1] - 62:25amazed [1] - 19:17Amazing' [6] - 65:22,
65:23, 66:1, 66:19, 76:19
America [4] - 90:13, 90:14, 92:17
amount [2] - 67:2, 93:1amounts [2] - 62:27,
62:28analysed [1] - 64:15Anglo [1] - 3:12Anglo-Irish [1] - 3:12answer [29] - 4:7, 4:10,
4:13, 4:16, 4:20, 4:23, 4:26, 4:28, 5:1, 5:12, 5:15, 5:20, 5:22, 9:28,
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14:26, 15:6, 15:30, 18:12, 18:15, 18:18, 19:2, 31:15, 31:21, 40:8, 49:30, 53:5, 53:7, 75:28, 79:7
Answer [2] - 5:3, 15:28answered [1] - 73:1anticipate [2] - 54:17,
61:6anxious [1] - 45:4anyhow [1] - 23:24anyway [2] - 22:24, 54:7apart [2] - 13:28, 58:2apologies [4] - 1:3, 3:5,
10:19, 21:4apparent [1] - 20:30appear [8] - 15:12, 16:21,
25:26, 26:13, 31:8, 55:2, 79:13, 79:20
appearance [4] - 3:14, 3:15, 6:6, 7:21
appeared [5] - 3:21, 3:22, 12:15, 28:13, 36:2
apply [1] - 7:24appointed [2] - 50:13,
51:1appreciate [1] - 45:4apprise [1] - 32:5approached [3] - 6:15,
21:30, 38:17appropriate [1] - 78:12April [3] - 67:12, 67:20,
67:21area [22] - 19:10, 19:21,
31:29, 41:7, 66:27, 67:15, 67:24, 67:25, 68:12, 68:18, 69:14, 70:3, 76:11, 76:17, 77:29, 78:1, 81:28, 82:6, 83:23, 86:8, 87:15, 87:17
areas [7] - 64:9, 65:3, 65:4, 69:5, 69:6, 69:8, 79:27
arise [2] - 11:19, 94:28arisen [1] - 47:5arises [1] - 89:28arising [3] - 4:11, 27:29,
75:15Armagh [11] - 19:10,
21:25, 22:3, 37:4, 38:24, 41:7, 72:17, 84:24, 85:1, 86:15, 86:16
armed [5] - 6:10, 7:12, 7:22, 7:23, 26:24
arms [2] - 7:27, 9:16Army [2] - 64:5, 72:5army [6] - 8:21, 66:7,
66:9, 74:5, 74:6, 82:19arose [2] - 5:10, 26:5arranged [2] - 35:30, 93:5arrangements [3] - 89:30,
90:28, 93:10arranging [2] - 7:4, 7:5arrest [2] - 30:25, 76:27arrested [4] - 22:5, 39:6,
39:16, 39:28
arrests [3] - 76:24, 76:26, 76:29
arrive [1] - 59:11arrived [6] - 6:26, 7:17,
11:28, 48:15, 91:11, 92:20
articles [2] - 33:12, 34:25AS [9] - 1:1, 2:2, 26:11,
31:6, 54:29, 62:2, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
aside [1] - 34:10aspect [1] - 42:6assassination [1] - 41:14assaulted [2] - 81:7, 81:9assessed [1] - 51:19assigned [3] - 7:30,
10:12, 35:29assist [3] - 7:17, 32:2,
38:6assistance [2] - 63:17,
64:9Assistant [3] - 24:2,
24:16, 24:20assisted [2] - 22:11,
40:22associated [3] - 64:23,
64:24, 82:13Association [1] - 90:22assume [5] - 9:9, 19:22,
21:13, 25:28, 39:26assumed [1] - 37:13assuming [1] - 28:5assumption [1] - 39:26astonishing [1] - 49:30Atlanta [3] - 90:23, 90:30,
92:18atrocities [2] - 91:5, 91:9attach [1] - 83:12attached [2] - 21:20,
28:16attempt [4] - 16:14,
17:24, 25:12, 64:28attempting [1] - 36:21attempts [2] - 73:6, 80:29attention [4] - 26:15,
26:19, 45:7, 89:29auctioneer [3] - 44:21,
44:26, 44:30August [8] - 3:11, 3:13,
32:8, 32:14, 32:23, 32:25, 32:26, 33:1
authorised [1] - 59:25authorities [10] - 22:9,
40:4, 50:22, 63:30, 64:2, 64:15, 65:30, 79:15, 79:24, 87:18
authority [2] - 75:9, 82:20autobiography [5] - 90:5,
90:26, 92:11, 93:27, 94:12
available [4] - 16:16, 16:17, 25:30, 30:25
avoid [1] - 82:18aware [29] - 11:30, 12:1,
12:3, 13:8, 14:24, 15:26, 20:4, 21:2, 24:19, 29:21, 29:24, 29:28, 30:7, 30:19,
30:23, 33:1, 33:11, 45:16, 47:6, 47:19, 48:5, 52:2, 67:1, 73:3, 76:29, 76:30, 92:2, 92:28
awareness [1] - 77:22axe [3] - 20:3, 20:5, 20:9
Bbacked [1] - 66:8backup [4] - 64:7, 64:10,
85:2, 85:3bad [2] - 35:3, 44:16bail [1] - 3:16bald [1] - 72:24Ballybinaby [6] - 66:29,
67:24, 67:28, 69:5, 75:4, 75:30
Barbara [3] - 90:24, 90:26, 92:18
Barns [1] - 8:20based [8] - 45:23, 47:1,
50:10, 55:23, 79:3, 82:2, 82:5, 83:13
basic [5] - 8:26, 10:4, 10:6, 10:19, 11:8
basis [3] - 45:17, 65:5, 76:1
bear [2] - 9:16, 11:14beating [1] - 87:25became [2] - 15:26, 29:20become [2] - 14:24, 82:12bed [1] - 94:2BEEN [2] - 2:1, 62:1beg [7] - 10:28, 16:24,
28:29, 34:16, 36:5, 37:2, 51:3
began [1] - 88:12begin [2] - 91:28, 92:26beginning [2] - 81:14,
90:18behalf [4] - 46:9, 55:2,
79:13, 79:21behaviour [1] - 44:20behind [1] - 73:21Belfast [5] - 39:11, 65:28,
68:6, 71:27, 71:28belief [12] - 40:28, 74:10,
77:9, 77:17, 77:21, 84:9, 84:22, 84:26, 86:18, 86:22, 87:2, 87:16
belonging [1] - 77:27below [1] - 3:7Ben [1] - 49:10Bessbrook [1] - 73:16best [8] - 14:13, 55:18,
56:6, 58:10, 59:10, 65:12, 72:2, 72:4
better [2] - 2:23, 69:27between [6] - 33:8, 62:16,
62:19, 72:22, 75:15, 83:18
beyond [1] - 73:23big [4] - 20:22, 64:8,
67:17, 85:11bit [3] - 14:11, 66:30,
87:25blind [1] - 85:17bogus [2] - 78:8, 78:11book [6] - 3:30, 23:8,
45:13, 45:25, 47:8, 47:18
booked [1] - 90:29border [37] - 4:30, 6:10,
6:12, 6:26, 7:8, 11:28, 19:21, 33:19, 39:10, 48:26, 62:26, 63:2, 65:3, 66:5, 66:11, 66:14, 66:22, 66:27, 67:29, 67:30, 68:9, 68:12, 68:17, 69:6, 69:7, 69:8, 70:3, 76:25, 79:27, 81:8, 87:17, 88:12, 88:16, 91:14, 91:27, 92:22, 92:25
bore [1] - 56:5born [1] - 92:30borne [1] - 3:27box [4] - 9:3, 9:6, 25:5,
50:2Branch [11] - 7:7, 8:3,
19:18, 50:24, 51:13, 62:8, 62:9, 62:14, 71:21, 83:19, 83:20
branches [1] - 83:16Breen [8] - 22:16, 41:12,
41:15, 41:18, 47:13, 71:4, 74:20, 74:25
Brian [3] - 9:13, 77:23, 77:26
bridge [1] - 25:29brief [1] - 89:27briefed [2] - 30:2, 30:24bring [2] - 48:19, 66:28British [2] - 72:5, 82:19brother [5] - 23:18, 30:24,
37:27, 37:28, 38:1brought [3] - 2:14, 23:7,
26:19Buchanan [5] - 22:16,
41:12, 41:15, 41:19, 47:13
Bull [3] - 31:28, 34:5, 36:19
Burke [2] - 9:7, 9:8business [5] - 20:16,
20:19, 73:4, 88:30, 94:23
but.. [1] - 77:21BY [8] - 2:1, 26:10, 31:5,
54:29, 62:1, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
CC&E [1] - 77:10C77 [25] - 2:19, 14:9,
15:10, 20:30, 21:11, 29:20, 30:15, 36:23, 36:27, 36:30, 38:1, 39:3, 39:17, 40:25, 43:8, 45:14, 45:22, 53:10, 53:17, 53:29, 55:23, 55:27, 56:4,
57:13, 57:17C77s [5] - 21:1, 30:22,
53:24, 54:9, 56:29Callan's [1] - 52:2cannot [4] - 52:17, 68:2,
80:28, 81:26capacity [2] - 65:2, 66:28car [38] - 4:19, 6:27, 7:17,
11:23, 12:2, 12:8, 20:3, 20:5, 20:6, 20:10, 31:23, 31:26, 31:27, 31:28, 31:30, 32:19, 34:4, 34:11, 35:9, 35:14, 35:18, 35:26, 36:2, 36:4, 36:6, 36:19, 78:15, 78:17, 78:19, 78:24, 78:25, 78:27, 78:30, 79:3, 91:13, 91:28, 92:22, 92:26
careful [4] - 20:12, 69:26, 88:26, 88:27
carr [1] - 10:29Carr [2] - 10:29, 11:1carried [7] - 9:20, 10:26,
20:19, 21:15, 69:4, 69:7carry [8] - 5:7, 7:27, 8:15,
13:24, 59:22, 59:26, 61:8, 61:11
carrying [4] - 13:5, 18:7, 20:26, 68:29
cars [17] - 6:18, 7:10, 7:13, 7:14, 7:15, 33:20, 78:1, 78:9, 78:11, 78:14, 78:21, 81:5, 81:23, 81:24, 93:17
case [13] - 3:24, 15:12, 20:13, 22:22, 29:23, 55:8, 59:4, 59:20, 59:21, 78:22, 81:5, 85:6, 93:18
cat [1] - 86:14caused [1] - 85:28Ceili [1] - 52:3Cell [1] - 73:16certain [11] - 19:22, 39:7,
39:23, 43:23, 52:8, 56:27, 57:30, 58:1, 60:4, 61:16, 91:4
certainly [21] - 1:12, 14:14, 20:9, 27:1, 30:10, 35:1, 35:6, 37:19, 46:15, 49:1, 57:19, 58:20, 65:18, 65:20, 67:3, 73:26, 76:3, 83:30, 85:3, 86:7, 87:20
certificate [3] - 8:12, 8:13, 9:16
certificates [2] - 8:17, 13:6
certifies [1] - 8:14Chairman [47] - 1:3, 2:8,
4:4, 4:24, 11:20, 11:24, 11:25, 13:15, 14:4, 17:4, 17:17, 18:19, 19:30, 21:9, 23:10, 24:6, 24:22, 27:18, 29:20, 30:29, 34:4,
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34:7, 36:16, 46:9, 46:13, 46:15, 54:27, 61:5, 61:17, 61:19, 62:11, 62:13, 63:10, 64:19, 65:21, 65:23, 70:28, 75:27, 77:24, 78:2, 78:4, 79:9, 79:13, 84:17, 92:1, 93:25, 94:23
CHAIRMAN [28] - 1:12, 2:4, 12:11, 12:15, 12:19, 12:23, 24:29, 25:4, 25:10, 26:3, 27:26, 31:2, 48:9, 54:14, 54:21, 54:25, 57:19, 60:19, 60:24, 61:1, 61:11, 70:25, 89:14, 89:18, 89:22, 94:1, 94:20, 94:27
chance [2] - 37:23, 69:18chancy [2] - 60:2, 60:11change [3] - 49:8, 49:13,
91:23changed [4] - 44:24,
48:10, 78:8, 80:8changing [1] - 12:9character [1] - 19:21charge [22] - 4:26, 4:27,
4:29, 11:20, 12:23, 12:27, 14:1, 16:10, 22:7, 27:19, 27:21, 27:23, 27:26, 28:22, 29:6, 36:18, 40:2, 43:19, 57:25, 58:11, 58:13, 66:25
charges [1] - 31:21chassis [1] - 78:18check [3] - 45:19, 51:8,
51:10checkpoints [1] - 82:18Chief [20] - 18:3, 24:3,
24:10, 26:26, 26:28, 27:19, 28:2, 28:7, 28:14, 28:20, 28:26, 29:3, 29:6, 30:2, 30:7, 41:18, 51:17, 76:15, 93:13, 93:16
Chiefs [1] - 90:22CID [1] - 56:2circle [1] - 39:14circulated [2] - 27:4, 74:6circumstances [2] -
80:10, 81:3claiming [1] - 62:27clarifies [1] - 94:8clashes [1] - 3:14clear [6] - 35:5, 53:7,
70:25, 76:6, 89:23, 90:25
clearer [1] - 34:22clearly [8] - 13:13, 23:6,
25:23, 32:11, 32:29, 40:14, 40:16, 55:15
client [6] - 44:13, 46:1, 50:2, 94:6, 94:14, 94:24
Clontibret [3] - 3:13, 4:12, 31:22
close [1] - 87:1
closely [4] - 22:18, 42:14, 68:7, 83:17
closer [1] - 17:5Co [3] - 29:3, 42:5, 69:6COFFEY [5] - 54:16, 79:9,
79:11, 79:13, 84:12Coffey [1] - 85:27coincide [1] - 90:21coincidentally [1] - 46:4colleagues [4] - 63:18,
69:22, 71:10, 76:5collect [1] - 93:8collected [2] - 32:24,
73:15collecting [2] - 32:7, 89:5colour [1] - 73:9Colton [2] - 79:14, 79:21coming [16] - 2:4, 5:3,
6:8, 13:6, 15:25, 32:8, 32:16, 32:25, 33:7, 33:21, 35:17, 49:24, 63:6, 66:7, 67:28, 82:18
commander [2] - 22:12, 41:1
commenced [1] - 93:3comment [8] - 24:9,
40:19, 58:14, 75:24, 87:26, 89:2, 92:5, 92:14
Commissioner [3] - 24:2, 24:20, 28:11
Commissioner's [3] - 24:16, 28:18, 29:18
committed [1] - 42:8commodity [1] - 83:30common [28] - 30:14,
30:22, 36:28, 37:5, 37:12, 37:21, 37:25, 37:26, 38:14, 38:20, 38:26, 39:18, 39:29, 40:4, 40:10, 40:27, 41:2, 41:8, 41:13, 41:23, 41:26, 42:10, 42:17, 53:11, 59:20, 59:21, 60:10, 81:5
commonly [4] - 38:22, 38:23, 84:9, 86:22
communicated [1] - 6:24communication [2] -
5:13, 23:15companies [1] - 62:27companions [2] - 7:9,
12:7company [12] - 21:29,
22:1, 22:4, 22:15, 38:13, 38:19, 38:25, 38:27, 39:9, 41:11, 41:29, 42:3
competence [1] - 9:1competencies [1] - 74:17competency [4] - 75:12,
85:20, 85:22competent [10] - 10:9,
10:11, 10:25, 11:11, 13:30, 58:3, 64:2, 75:8, 89:1, 89:4
compile [1] - 53:30compiling [1] - 29:30complained [1] - 44:22
completed [1] - 76:22completely [3] - 5:14,
47:24, 72:22compound [1] - 75:30computer [1] - 73:18conceded [1] - 94:7concept [1] - 56:22concern [2] - 58:30,
69:28concerned [5] - 14:18,
35:7, 45:2, 45:6, 50:4concerted [1] - 73:6conclude [1] - 14:6concluded [1] - 14:17concludes [2] - 42:13,
94:23conclusion [2] - 29:27,
43:29conclusions [1] - 58:19condemnation [1] - 67:7condemned [1] - 67:8conducted [1] - 65:27conducting [1] - 73:4conference [3] - 29:12,
90:22, 92:18confidence [1] - 46:17confidential [4] - 23:26,
44:3, 45:15, 48:30confined [4] - 66:19,
66:20, 66:21confirm [5] - 21:10,
47:27, 72:26, 79:20, 93:20
confirmation [1] - 80:18confirmed [3] - 46:9,
67:25, 79:23confirms [1] - 91:6confiscation [1] - 75:5conflict [2] - 32:28, 32:29confrontation [1] - 6:22connected [1] - 85:18Connolly [1] - 18:4Connor [2] - 50:11, 51:11conscious [2] - 49:13,
85:19consequence [4] - 20:24,
51:15, 67:26, 75:12consequently [1] - 80:7consider [1] - 56:15considerable [3] - 67:2,
73:25, 93:1considerably [1] - 80:6consideration [3] - 8:10,
13:25, 13:28considered [2] - 19:4,
65:4considering [1] - 3:28consistently [1] - 82:28Constable [1] - 93:16Constable's [1] - 93:13constant [1] - 68:5contact [14] - 6:7, 16:14,
19:3, 66:29, 71:9, 71:14, 71:15, 71:27, 75:15, 75:19, 76:11, 76:13, 82:20, 91:16
contained [2] - 24:15,
43:7containing [1] - 53:11contains [1] - 42:27content [3] - 29:21,
30:20, 36:27contents [1] - 72:26contesting [1] - 93:26context [2] - 73:2, 74:12continue [3] - 38:12,
38:24, 49:4continued [2] - 49:15,
76:22continues [5] - 38:17,
39:17, 40:20, 40:21, 40:30
contraband [1] - 80:21contradict [1] - 39:27contrary [1] - 27:18control [1] - 48:7Control [2] - 27:1, 27:16controversy [3] - 27:29,
28:4, 28:16conversation [2] - 49:4,
71:6convey [3] - 20:28, 20:29,
21:19conveyed [1] - 20:11cooperation [1] - 73:27copy [6] - 2:22, 2:24,
14:13, 45:25, 92:4correct [60] - 5:29, 5:30,
11:21, 12:17, 12:21, 13:14, 22:28, 23:5, 23:9, 24:26, 26:17, 27:6, 27:8, 27:12, 28:4, 29:10, 32:10, 32:15, 32:20, 33:9, 33:26, 34:6, 34:13, 34:17, 35:18, 36:28, 37:18, 39:3, 40:18, 40:25, 42:22, 47:8, 47:13, 47:22, 50:14, 50:16, 52:18, 52:30, 53:24, 55:4, 55:16, 55:23, 57:25, 59:30, 62:10, 63:4, 63:25, 63:29, 65:13, 66:17, 71:1, 71:2, 79:25, 81:15, 81:16, 82:10, 84:21, 88:11, 88:14, 94:7
correspond [1] - 93:5Corrigan [60] - 2:19, 2:25,
5:18, 8:19, 9:24, 11:19, 12:27, 13:26, 14:9, 14:15, 14:23, 15:10, 16:12, 16:15, 17:26, 19:16, 20:30, 25:5, 31:9, 31:11, 31:15, 32:12, 32:18, 32:29, 34:8, 34:10, 35:11, 35:20, 35:27, 35:28, 36:8, 36:23, 40:20, 41:28, 42:26, 43:12, 43:18, 43:24, 43:27, 44:8, 45:14, 45:28, 46:5, 49:6, 49:14, 52:29, 53:2, 55:19, 55:28, 57:1, 57:28,
58:13, 58:26, 59:6, 59:9, 59:11, 59:19, 60:2, 60:6, 90:3
Corrigan's [7] - 8:16, 9:14, 11:17, 29:19, 43:8, 56:4, 57:11
Council [1] - 78:10counsel [1] - 92:12counteract [1] - 64:21counteracting [1] - 65:7counterfeit [1] - 77:28countersigned [2] - 9:11,
10:30country [1] - 34:28County [4] - 3:13, 6:25,
31:22, 78:10couple [4] - 24:15, 32:1,
45:14, 49:24course [28] - 7:26, 8:6,
8:20, 8:27, 8:29, 10:7, 10:20, 23:4, 24:22, 31:2, 33:23, 40:1, 48:9, 52:1, 54:11, 54:21, 54:25, 60:19, 71:6, 77:25, 81:20, 82:4, 82:14, 82:16, 82:24, 88:15, 94:17, 94:28
court [5] - 6:8, 31:20, 32:21, 33:13, 45:5
Court [19] - 3:18, 3:21, 4:9, 5:1, 6:2, 6:6, 7:3, 7:19, 7:25, 12:2, 12:15, 13:21, 31:21, 32:26, 36:1, 50:28, 51:2, 51:21
courthouse [5] - 3:14, 6:13, 6:14, 6:16, 7:21
Courts [2] - 3:8, 3:20cover [2] - 49:18, 49:25covert [1] - 69:5crashed [1] - 78:14create [1] - 42:6creating [1] - 43:21Crime [1] - 24:2criminal [1] - 64:25Criminal [12] - 3:18, 3:21,
4:8, 5:1, 6:2, 7:3, 7:19, 7:24, 12:2, 12:15, 13:21, 31:20
criticised [1] - 94:6CROSS [6] - 26:10, 31:5,
54:29, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
cross [10] - 25:16, 25:17, 25:29, 26:4, 60:17, 66:15, 67:29, 67:30, 94:16
cross-border [2] - 67:29, 67:30
cross-examination [1] - 25:16
cross-examine [4] - 25:17, 26:4, 60:17, 94:16
cross-examined [1] - 26:4
CROSS-EXAMINED [6] - 26:10, 31:5, 54:29, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
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crowd [2] - 6:14, 42:10Crowley [1] - 28:12crown [1] - 58:21Crucible [1] - 73:19culprits [2] - 22:19, 42:15cumulative [1] - 73:11current [2] - 79:26, 79:28custody [2] - 22:7, 40:2customary [1] - 44:26Customs [41] - 23:15,
23:16, 39:15, 62:7, 62:8, 62:12, 63:25, 63:27, 63:30, 64:11, 64:15, 64:16, 65:28, 66:6, 66:12, 68:6, 68:8, 68:16, 68:29, 69:4, 69:10, 69:30, 70:30, 71:26, 74:4, 75:8, 75:16, 75:20, 76:7, 78:29, 81:1, 81:5, 81:11, 81:23, 82:2, 82:5, 82:23, 83:12, 83:18, 83:25, 88:23
cut [1] - 93:16
DD.C [2] - 9:7D/Superintendent [1] -
51:16Dan [6] - 1:7, 1:14, 5:10,
5:13, 76:14, 87:29DAN [1] - 2:1danger [5] - 19:20, 19:23,
20:15, 20:28, 37:27dangerous [1] - 65:4date [7] - 9:20, 13:20,
15:20, 21:1, 21:6, 25:28, 37:7
dated [7] - 8:22, 9:19, 10:14, 15:5, 15:14, 24:3, 40:13
dates [11] - 3:5, 3:6, 3:7, 3:19, 3:27, 9:25, 9:30, 13:11, 13:18
daughter [2] - 90:14, 90:26
day-book [2] - 45:13, 45:25
day-to-day [1] - 19:13days [10] - 12:16, 12:24,
33:24, 33:28, 34:6, 34:12, 45:14, 59:8, 81:30, 91:9
dead [1] - 40:18deal [10] - 2:9, 2:30,
11:29, 24:24, 24:26, 25:10, 34:9, 61:15, 75:3, 77:30
dealing [9] - 1:5, 44:19, 58:29, 66:2, 71:22, 74:11, 83:29, 84:1, 85:20
deals [4] - 89:29, 91:4, 91:8, 94:4
dealt [10] - 11:13, 11:14, 14:16, 75:10, 76:1, 76:10, 78:5, 87:8, 87:29
dearer [1] - 80:6death [1] - 37:14deceased [2] - 58:6, 58:7December [9] - 91:1,
91:4, 91:12, 91:21, 91:25, 92:20, 92:23, 92:29, 93:11
decent [1] - 76:16decided [6] - 6:23, 12:7,
18:23, 50:28, 65:29, 90:20
decision [5] - 21:26, 31:25, 37:10, 51:2, 51:3
declared [1] - 78:30deemed [2] - 10:26, 17:28degree [2] - 49:15, 52:19delay [1] - 1:3demanded [1] - 74:23deny [1] - 47:24denying [1] - 50:20departed [1] - 91:6Department [1] - 28:14department [1] - 9:10departure [1] - 90:29deposit [3] - 44:23,
44:24, 44:27depriving [1] - 80:15depth [1] - 73:25derived [1] - 45:24describe [3] - 58:26,
58:28, 88:1described [9] - 8:26,
23:2, 53:11, 58:20, 59:19, 60:1, 84:19, 87:28, 88:2
describing [1] - 45:15description [2] - 58:24,
82:21designed [1] - 73:22desirable [2] - 19:5, 19:6detail [5] - 57:28, 59:25,
73:1, 93:13detailed [11] - 12:27,
13:26, 13:29, 34:7, 35:11, 36:13, 36:14, 58:3, 58:11, 58:18, 59:29
detailing [3] - 7:7, 13:25, 57:26
details [1] - 27:4detect [1] - 63:9Detective [18] - 5:28, 7:7,
8:3, 8:18, 11:16, 15:9, 16:12, 16:14, 19:16, 19:18, 47:18, 47:21, 50:23, 51:13, 55:28, 56:4, 58:25, 59:5
detective [2] - 50:26, 58:22
detectives [3] - 50:13, 50:17, 57:6
determined [1] - 51:5developed [1] - 12:3development [1] - 2:17developments [2] - 15:1,
94:28devoted [1] - 73:8dictate [1] - 80:11
died [1] - 91:19differ [2] - 28:29, 51:3different [7] - 5:14, 9:30,
39:22, 41:21, 42:9, 48:26
differential [1] - 62:19difficult [3] - 30:18, 63:9,
93:2difficulties [1] - 85:28dilemma [1] - 31:24DILLON [12] - 1:3, 1:14,
2:1, 2:8, 12:30, 25:1, 25:7, 25:14, 25:23, 60:21, 60:29, 61:3
Dillon [6] - 28:30, 29:18, 31:10, 37:15, 53:23, 60:19
dinner [2] - 72:13, 74:19direct [2] - 81:14, 82:1directed [3] - 29:7, 44:3,
73:14directing [1] - 74:27direction [4] - 74:23,
74:24, 74:28, 80:11directly [3] - 27:15, 73:15,
77:8disagree [3] - 5:21, 5:22,
30:5disagreed [1] - 30:6disbelieve [1] - 84:10discover [1] - 45:13discovered [1] - 12:5discuss [4] - 48:24,
49:27, 68:12, 71:28discussed [1] - 75:22discussion [1] - 48:30dislike [1] - 52:28dismantling [1] - 8:7dismounted [1] - 6:27displayed [1] - 50:2disposed [3] - 3:24, 83:2,
83:3dispute [7] - 27:22, 33:6,
37:19, 47:22, 47:23, 58:15, 58:16
disputed [1] - 42:2disputing [3] - 43:9, 44:5,
47:17disrespect [1] - 88:29disseminated [1] - 73:19distribute [1] - 27:17District [2] - 6:6, 32:26district [1] - 27:5disturbed [1] - 73:24ditches [1] - 59:13division [1] - 8:19divisional [1] - 27:5dockets [1] - 39:8document [21] - 1:4, 2:18,
2:26, 14:19, 15:13, 15:14, 21:19, 22:12, 24:23, 25:16, 26:5, 40:30, 41:22, 53:16, 54:19, 55:23, 55:24, 55:25, 72:9, 78:7
documentation [1] - 64:13
documented [1] - 73:7
documents [11] - 3:3, 3:5, 39:8, 46:10, 49:17, 78:7, 78:9, 78:11, 78:27, 78:28
Doherty [1] - 28:11done [17] - 8:5, 8:29,
9:26, 20:18, 21:18, 35:3, 44:17, 54:4, 58:2, 64:23, 67:13, 67:16, 72:30, 74:12, 74:23, 75:7, 83:20
door [1] - 48:15doubt [1] - 42:3down [21] - 5:7, 10:28,
12:20, 28:18, 28:25, 31:29, 32:8, 32:25, 33:24, 35:17, 39:20, 42:4, 48:27, 54:3, 56:27, 62:24, 63:6, 63:8, 73:7, 90:28
Dr [2] - 7:16, 33:29draft [1] - 35:23draw [3] - 29:27, 43:29,
58:19drawer [1] - 92:18drawing [1] - 59:4dress [1] - 91:25dressed [1] - 28:25drew [1] - 45:7drink [1] - 52:6drive [1] - 84:7driven [3] - 26:21, 63:6,
63:8driver [2] - 12:4, 31:26drivers [2] - 91:13, 92:21driving [2] - 31:23, 39:13Drogheda [11] - 2:21,
4:17, 31:23, 31:29, 32:2, 32:19, 34:5, 34:15, 34:16, 35:10, 35:14
Dromad [9] - 16:30, 17:4, 17:5, 17:7, 17:15, 23:19, 26:21, 29:2, 39:10
Drumcar [1] - 29:2dual [1] - 84:4Dublin [24] - 28:8, 31:30,
33:8, 33:24, 33:29, 36:7, 39:11, 45:15, 62:8, 71:21, 71:28, 81:29, 90:12, 90:16, 90:29, 91:7, 91:11, 91:28, 92:16, 92:20, 92:26, 92:29, 93:8
Dublin-Belfast [1] - 39:11due [3] - 1:4, 92:30, 93:3duly [2] - 6:13, 6:25Dundalk [37] - 3:14, 5:28,
6:6, 6:9, 6:13, 6:29, 7:8, 7:21, 8:21, 17:6, 17:12, 19:18, 26:26, 26:27, 26:29, 27:1, 30:8, 30:14, 30:22, 32:9, 34:12, 34:15, 42:28, 47:30, 48:29, 49:2, 49:8, 49:10, 50:11, 51:25, 56:2, 59:7,
76:11, 82:2, 82:5, 82:6, 83:13
DURACK [1] - 25:12during [5] - 71:5, 72:22,
77:25, 88:15, 91:9duties [4] - 4:5, 28:6,
79:26, 79:28duty [14] - 16:12, 16:19,
19:6, 36:1, 36:13, 36:14, 49:24, 50:5, 58:18, 78:12, 78:20, 79:1, 79:2, 79:3
Ee-mail [2] - 92:6, 93:29ear [1] - 87:21early [7] - 26:16, 30:23,
59:8, 90:29, 92:30, 93:14
easily [1] - 67:19easy [2] - 41:20, 42:7economic [1] - 80:10Edenappa [3] - 63:4,
81:15, 82:25effect [3] - 27:10, 33:18,
71:5effective [1] - 73:12effectively [6] - 63:20,
64:11, 64:12, 68:30, 74:26, 74:28
efforts [2] - 73:6, 80:26eighties [2] - 82:29, 84:29either [12] - 2:23, 6:2,
14:13, 24:26, 33:5, 44:5, 59:15, 71:28, 80:15, 80:25, 81:1, 81:23
elaborate [1] - 64:19element [1] - 67:30elements [1] - 19:4eligible [1] - 59:22elsewhere [2] - 18:20,
90:25emanate [1] - 72:24embarking [1] - 73:1emergence [1] - 1:4emptive [1] - 75:25en [1] - 92:17encounter [1] - 52:25end [7] - 48:14, 61:14,
75:2, 76:17, 76:18, 91:23, 94:8
endeavours [1] - 32:3ended [2] - 76:20, 93:14endure [1] - 81:12engaged [4] - 3:11,
31:18, 84:5, 84:6enriching [1] - 80:16entered [2] - 45:10, 73:18entitled [4] - 9:16, 62:29,
90:5, 92:12entitlement [1] - 13:24entries [1] - 9:6episode [1] - 11:23equipped [1] - 11:29escort [34] - 2:10, 2:30,
4:5, 4:26, 4:27, 4:29,
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5:18, 6:1, 6:11, 6:28, 7:4, 7:5, 7:11, 7:12, 7:18, 11:20, 12:28, 14:1, 31:18, 32:30, 34:8, 35:11, 35:21, 35:30, 36:3, 36:9, 36:12, 36:15, 36:17, 36:18, 91:14, 91:17, 92:22
escorted [3] - 4:14, 6:13, 12:20
escorting [2] - 4:22, 7:8establish [3] - 48:22,
71:30, 73:2established [2] - 16:3,
18:10establishment [1] - 52:2estimation [1] - 50:25EU [11] - 62:18, 62:21,
63:15, 63:16, 64:2, 64:22, 66:21, 83:8, 83:19
evading [1] - 78:20evening [5] - 12:1, 91:19,
91:20, 92:24, 93:11event [3] - 14:25, 30:13,
80:24events [3] - 3:9, 16:21,
25:30eventually [2] - 7:2, 39:14evidence [44] - 1:5, 2:26,
20:1, 27:10, 32:17, 33:18, 36:16, 42:9, 42:26, 46:8, 46:29, 47:1, 47:24, 48:23, 49:7, 49:9, 59:17, 60:1, 68:28, 70:29, 71:3, 71:4, 72:8, 72:28, 74:19, 74:29, 76:28, 81:14, 81:21, 84:3, 88:11, 88:22, 89:23, 89:29, 89:30, 90:10, 92:3, 92:10, 93:12, 93:21, 93:28, 94:5, 94:13, 94:25
evolved [1] - 87:14exact [2] - 25:28, 71:30exactly [4] - 14:26, 29:17,
81:20, 87:17examination [4] - 25:16,
60:19, 60:21, 89:20examine [4] - 25:17, 26:4,
60:17, 94:16EXAMINED [8] - 2:1,
26:10, 31:5, 54:29, 62:1, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
examined [3] - 9:24, 26:4, 64:14
example [5] - 51:24, 60:3, 63:27, 86:27, 87:29
except [1] - 72:26Excise [1] - 88:23excuse [1] - 30:26execute [2] - 21:27, 37:10executed [2] - 15:3, 37:22executive [1] - 73:22exercise [2] - 80:22,
82:17
exercises [1] - 81:22existed [3] - 46:21, 57:10,
57:12existence [1] - 2:20expect [1] - 71:15expected [3] - 71:18,
71:23, 91:29expecting [1] - 14:30experience [5] - 44:19,
87:1, 87:4, 87:6, 90:15expertise [1] - 73:23explain [5] - 24:6, 32:17,
75:26, 78:2, 78:22explaining [1] - 73:9explanation [1] - 62:18explore [1] - 77:29exported [2] - 62:21,
62:23exposure [1] - 73:12extended [1] - 90:20extensively [2] - 63:5,
75:29extent [4] - 4:21, 14:16,
44:12, 85:13extra [1] - 26:5extract [2] - 90:9, 91:18extracts [8] - 90:5, 92:1,
92:5, 92:11, 92:15, 92:19, 92:23, 94:11
extraordinarily [1] - 33:14
eye [1] - 85:17
Ffaced [1] - 31:24facilitate [2] - 67:4, 82:17facility [2] - 83:8, 83:12fact [6] - 6:17, 32:18,
36:18, 73:7, 79:23, 94:6facts [3] - 50:3, 71:30,
72:24failed [1] - 28:19failure [1] - 50:29fair [8] - 57:14, 80:13,
82:11, 84:29, 86:5, 87:12, 87:20, 87:28
fairly [4] - 53:26, 69:16, 87:13, 89:4
fairness [4] - 2:25, 14:14, 48:5, 92:4
Fairways [1] - 49:24fall [1] - 87:10false [1] - 46:30family [2] - 23:17, 65:11fantasist [3] - 58:28,
59:1, 59:3far [17] - 7:17, 11:30,
14:17, 24:9, 25:14, 25:17, 35:6, 38:28, 50:1, 50:4, 54:8, 55:20, 58:16, 59:24, 62:26, 63:19, 68:4
farm [6] - 71:12, 71:13, 71:16, 72:2, 74:22, 75:18
fatal [1] - 49:21fathom [1] - 57:3
favour [1] - 50:5fear [1] - 50:5feared [2] - 6:22, 15:1February [1] - 72:23fell [3] - 87:4, 87:7, 87:24fella [4] - 42:7, 42:8,
50:28felt [3] - 37:27, 74:26,
85:9fervent [1] - 40:28few [6] - 20:21, 26:7,
39:12, 41:6, 55:13, 61:15
fiction [3] - 43:22, 44:6, 44:9
fifties [1] - 20:23file [18] - 8:16, 16:6,
17:14, 23:28, 24:1, 39:1, 46:5, 46:11, 46:14, 46:16, 46:18, 46:20, 46:23, 46:24, 46:25, 46:26, 55:21
filled [2] - 23:19, 56:7final [2] - 77:29, 91:22finalised [1] - 90:29finally [2] - 53:10, 73:27finance [2] - 75:7, 75:8financial [2] - 22:4, 39:18fine [3] - 3:25, 10:1, 17:25finish [2] - 1:9, 59:16Fintan [1] - 52:2fire [1] - 8:19firearm [1] - 13:24firearms [12] - 8:4, 8:6,
9:9, 11:17, 13:3, 13:5, 59:20, 59:22, 59:26, 60:3, 60:6, 60:9
firing [2] - 8:8, 8:21firm [1] - 72:28first [23] - 1:7, 2:9, 2:30,
3:3, 3:4, 3:5, 6:7, 11:26, 12:25, 13:7, 14:23, 15:26, 25:7, 27:14, 32:5, 32:9, 33:30, 34:19, 34:22, 62:14, 79:20, 80:20, 90:9
First [1] - 31:18five [4] - 20:24, 61:17,
69:16, 84:16flagged [1] - 14:5flew [1] - 92:16flippant [2] - 70:11, 89:2floor [1] - 66:14Florida [1] - 92:19Florida.. [1] - 90:25flow [1] - 68:5focus [2] - 21:5, 85:16focusing [1] - 70:27folks [1] - 85:13follow [1] - 84:23following [11] - 3:19,
7:15, 9:15, 14:28, 16:3, 17:16, 18:10, 25:24, 25:26, 27:26, 35:25
follows [2] - 21:22, 73:1FOLLOWS [9] - 1:1, 2:2,
26:11, 31:6, 54:29, 62:2, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
foot [1] - 39:2force [1] - 8:1forces [1] - 68:11forefront [1] - 75:14forever [1] - 94:3forfeited [1] - 67:8forged [1] - 78:7form [1] - 30:20formally [1] - 29:12formed [1] - 17:21former [2] - 26:21, 70:29forms [1] - 56:8forth [1] - 84:8forward [2] - 55:27, 94:27four [2] - 33:24, 81:30framework [2] - 63:11,
63:15frameworks [1] - 63:13frankly [1] - 14:12fraud [5] - 62:18, 62:23,
64:3, 64:22, 66:21Friday [1] - 25:8Friend [2] - 59:16, 85:27friends [1] - 13:20Friends [1] - 79:7front [1] - 70:10frontier [1] - 65:25fuel [4] - 67:27, 73:24,
75:5, 75:10full [2] - 25:16, 31:14Fulton [1] - 55:3function [2] - 50:19,
62:15funds [2] - 62:18, 66:21furnished [5] - 35:24,
43:25, 46:12, 51:12, 92:10
furnishing [2] - 24:10, 43:28
FURTHER [1] - 95:1
GG30 [2] - 72:22, 73:15garda [2] - 57:4, 92:22Garda [53] - 2:20, 5:28,
7:13, 7:14, 7:30, 12:2, 16:5, 16:30, 17:14, 18:20, 18:30, 21:24, 22:16, 22:23, 22:27, 22:29, 23:21, 23:28, 24:1, 26:13, 26:15, 26:21, 27:1, 37:3, 38:9, 42:13, 47:30, 48:29, 49:2, 49:8, 49:10, 50:10, 51:26, 52:5, 52:26, 58:21, 59:11, 63:27, 64:4, 64:6, 64:27, 68:16, 69:30, 70:4, 70:9, 70:20, 73:6, 81:24, 85:21, 91:13, 91:27, 92:26, 94:14
gardaí [5] - 23:21, 50:18, 52:8, 52:12, 52:20
Gardaí [6] - 37:26, 47:12, 64:9, 66:9, 76:10, 82:19
Garvey [2] - 9:13, 10:30gathered [1] - 6:14
gathering [2] - 88:23, 88:24
Gene [1] - 17:23general [4] - 23:24, 24:6,
48:30, 53:11generally [1] - 32:14generate [3] - 38:1,
53:13, 53:16gentleman [1] - 44:28geographically [1] - 17:5Georgia [1] - 90:23Gerry [2] - 50:11, 51:11given [18] - 1:5, 11:8,
22:8, 27:10, 33:18, 36:16, 40:3, 46:29, 47:1, 49:7, 49:9, 69:14, 80:18, 84:3, 89:23, 90:10, 94:13
Glasdrumman [1] - 72:21Glasgow [1] - 65:27gleaned [2] - 3:4, 3:6gleans [1] - 16:5GOCs [1] - 73:10goods [4] - 67:7, 80:21,
80:27, 80:29gossip [1] - 46:3governing [1] - 64:2graded [2] - 21:11, 21:19grading [2] - 21:15, 21:17grain [31] - 22:6, 39:7,
39:8, 39:9, 39:10, 39:12, 39:29, 62:15, 62:20, 62:21, 62:23, 62:25, 63:2, 63:5, 63:14, 63:29, 65:17, 65:24, 66:19, 66:22, 70:17, 70:18, 76:18, 77:6, 82:27, 83:27, 84:2, 85:28, 86:27, 88:17, 88:19
grateful [4] - 21:10, 60:25, 89:23, 94:20
great [4] - 19:7, 32:13, 65:19, 80:20
greater [1] - 83:25Green [1] - 3:22gripe [2] - 56:7, 56:10ground [3] - 44:30, 87:21,
89:3group [1] - 83:4growth [1] - 88:21guard [5] - 45:27, 48:17,
52:6, 58:23, 59:17guards [6] - 2:22, 12:9,
14:12, 23:3, 50:4, 91:17gun [4] - 8:9, 8:11, 10:3,
10:5guns [1] - 7:28
Hhabit [1] - 35:28Hackballscross [3] -
52:9, 52:13, 67:3Hackballscross/south
[1] - 19:10half [3] - 17:20, 49:5, 93:6handle [1] - 8:9
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handler [1] - 20:1handlers [1] - 20:1hands [2] - 6:28, 69:20handwritten [1] - 54:6happily [1] - 90:28happy [2] - 13:4, 93:20Harnden [5] - 47:8, 48:5,
48:7, 48:14, 48:23Harry [3] - 71:3, 74:20,
74:25hatchet [1] - 20:26hatred [1] - 50:1HAVING [2] - 2:1, 62:1headline [2] - 33:17,
34:27Headquarters [14] - 2:20,
21:11, 21:16, 22:30, 28:5, 43:25, 43:28, 44:4, 45:23, 46:6, 56:28, 57:1, 71:21, 91:26
headquarters [1] - 62:8hear [3] - 51:27, 52:23,
55:5heard [11] - 7:1, 19:1,
19:30, 21:10, 37:20, 42:20, 48:23, 52:10, 70:28, 76:29, 90:1
hearing [1] - 32:26heavily [1] - 68:16heavy [4] - 31:27, 33:21,
34:20, 35:5hedges [1] - 59:13held [11] - 21:26, 22:20,
29:12, 37:5, 42:16, 42:19, 57:5, 69:9, 84:9, 84:26, 86:22
help [4] - 8:17, 8:23, 11:24, 17:4
helped [1] - 36:20Hermon [13] - 89:30,
90:5, 90:11, 90:15, 91:3, 91:21, 92:11, 92:15, 92:16, 92:24, 93:6, 93:7, 94:15
Hermon's [3] - 91:16, 93:10, 94:12
Hermons [2] - 92:20, 92:28
hesitant [2] - 43:14, 43:17
hide [1] - 63:5high [2] - 6:15, 78:9High [5] - 36:1, 50:28,
51:2, 51:21Higher [1] - 62:6highly [1] - 87:14himself [6] - 20:27, 36:9,
45:3, 45:24, 58:21, 93:6hindsight [1] - 20:13HM [1] - 77:10HMG [1] - 73:30HMRC [8] - 67:10, 74:7,
74:13, 75:1, 75:11, 76:6, 84:28, 85:13
hold [5] - 7:1, 13:16, 64:17, 64:29, 74:10
holding [1] - 44:26
holiday [3] - 25:20, 90:21, 93:7
honest [4] - 81:26, 87:6, 88:3, 88:4
honestly [2] - 15:28, 16:1honeymoon [2] - 91:28,
92:26honourable [3] - 76:16,
88:2, 88:4hoped [1] - 6:28hopefully [1] - 94:24Horgan [1] - 50:11hormones [2] - 77:28,
88:20horse [1] - 31:28horse-power [1] - 31:28Hotel [1] - 49:24hour [2] - 19:8, 49:5hours [9] - 14:27, 14:28,
15:29, 17:10, 18:14, 18:25, 18:26, 72:22, 72:23
house [4] - 22:19, 42:16, 42:19, 44:24
House [1] - 52:3hundred [3] - 20:20,
46:17, 47:2hundreds [1] - 20:23husband [1] - 92:19hydrocarbon [2] - 66:26,
79:28Hynes [1] - 90:1
Ii.e [1] - 63:23IACP [1] - 90:22ice [1] - 4:18idea [2] - 56:21, 89:10ideal [1] - 19:29identified [1] - 70:20identify [1] - 78:19identity [2] - 22:19, 42:15ill [1] - 50:6ill-will [1] - 50:6illegal [1] - 80:20illegally [1] - 80:16illegible [4] - 2:22, 14:10,
14:12, 57:17illicit [1] - 73:4imagination [1] - 46:30imagine [4] - 15:30,
20:16, 20:25, 21:21immaterial [1] - 64:24immediate [2] - 27:8,
73:22immediately [6] - 16:8,
26:27, 27:2, 27:4, 28:19, 41:4
impinge [1] - 74:17important [4] - 56:22,
57:13, 73:2, 82:26importation [3] - 78:21,
78:23, 78:24imposition [1] - 3:25impounded [1] - 80:27impression [1] - 42:7inadvertently [1] - 69:18
incident [5] - 12:12, 16:18, 27:4, 40:28, 72:18
incidents [2] - 31:21, 48:27
inclined [1] - 75:25including [2] - 73:6,
76:27incorrect [3] - 46:14,
47:15, 48:2increased [1] - 55:7indeed [25] - 2:15, 16:11,
17:19, 21:1, 25:7, 46:7, 64:20, 64:22, 65:18, 66:18, 66:30, 67:5, 67:11, 67:14, 70:4, 74:13, 75:9, 75:20, 76:14, 81:7, 82:30, 83:1, 88:20, 90:3, 90:26
independent [1] - 82:23indicate [9] - 20:14,
46:29, 50:3, 61:14, 63:1, 64:16, 92:15, 92:19, 92:23
indicated [10] - 18:19, 24:25, 32:6, 56:3, 65:9, 85:27, 91:7, 93:12, 93:14, 94:18
indicates [2] - 44:11, 49:30
indicating [1] - 94:10indifferent [1] - 44:16individual [5] - 45:2,
45:6, 60:11, 69:30, 73:11
individuals [4] - 19:3, 49:11, 65:16, 70:7
inducted [1] - 50:23inference [1] - 28:5information [82] - 3:19,
16:5, 18:21, 19:17, 19:23, 21:24, 22:8, 22:10, 22:11, 22:18, 23:3, 23:11, 23:12, 23:22, 23:23, 23:25, 23:26, 24:9, 24:11, 24:15, 26:29, 27:17, 27:30, 29:19, 29:25, 30:13, 30:21, 30:24, 34:18, 37:3, 37:28, 38:2, 38:8, 39:3, 40:3, 40:21, 40:22, 42:15, 42:27, 43:5, 43:6, 43:7, 43:10, 43:11, 43:23, 43:25, 43:28, 44:3, 44:14, 44:21, 45:11, 45:15, 45:23, 45:28, 47:19, 47:26, 47:27, 47:29, 48:3, 48:29, 53:12, 54:1, 54:2, 55:30, 56:1, 57:6, 68:17, 69:29, 71:11, 71:25, 72:3, 72:6, 72:7, 73:14, 73:17, 74:6, 77:10, 77:13, 77:14, 83:6, 83:7, 88:28
informed [3] - 45:1, 45:12, 72:27
initial [1] - 27:30injured [1] - 7:1INLA [1] - 56:24input [2] - 19:13, 65:27inquired [2] - 6:29, 6:30inquiries [1] - 18:21inquiry [2] - 46:11, 46:27inspection [1] - 10:27inspector [1] - 49:25Inspector [4] - 5:28,
47:18, 47:21, 76:14instance [3] - 32:6, 82:3,
82:9instead [1] - 91:24instructions [2] - 27:16,
94:11instructor [2] - 8:13, 9:9Intelligence [1] - 73:16intelligence [41] - 23:13,
29:25, 30:8, 44:14, 45:18, 45:23, 52:21, 56:7, 56:23, 56:26, 56:30, 57:12, 59:4, 67:22, 68:5, 68:8, 68:13, 68:17, 68:22, 68:23, 68:24, 68:25, 69:9, 69:11, 69:16, 69:20, 69:22, 69:23, 72:6, 73:20, 77:18, 77:20, 83:2, 83:4, 87:14, 88:22, 88:24, 88:28, 89:1, 89:5
intends [1] - 92:13intense [1] - 52:28interception [1] - 73:24interest [1] - 9:8interests [1] - 82:15interfere [1] - 25:23International [1] - 90:22intervening [1] - 91:5interviewed [3] - 38:27,
38:29, 39:2investigate [2] - 19:6,
62:30investigated [2] - 49:22,
65:15investigating [4] - 19:7,
19:14, 57:6, 83:26Investigation [6] - 62:8,
62:9, 62:14, 71:21, 83:19, 83:20
investigation [27] - 16:2, 16:7, 16:10, 17:21, 17:30, 18:2, 18:9, 19:13, 22:23, 22:27, 23:4, 23:6, 23:7, 27:19, 29:13, 38:6, 38:7, 38:11, 49:22, 55:16, 55:19, 55:22, 62:15, 67:15, 68:1, 83:16, 83:21
investigations [5] - 29:7, 65:24, 65:26, 76:21, 77:25
involve [5] - 7:6, 79:26, 79:28, 81:23, 82:8
involved [30] - 4:25, 7:7, 16:7, 16:9, 18:1, 21:29,
32:7, 32:30, 38:10, 38:13, 49:20, 49:23, 55:15, 55:19, 62:15, 63:23, 65:12, 65:19, 65:24, 66:3, 67:4, 76:8, 76:30, 77:6, 79:30, 80:14, 80:19, 86:2, 86:11, 91:17
involvement [5] - 4:22, 6:1, 50:20, 76:19, 84:25
involving [2] - 39:7, 73:26
IRA [19] - 37:11, 37:22, 39:23, 44:23, 45:13, 52:30, 53:3, 64:23, 64:24, 65:12, 65:20, 84:5, 84:6, 85:21, 86:11, 86:15, 87:13, 87:20, 87:24
Ireland [23] - 21:30, 22:6, 23:16, 31:19, 32:14, 33:15, 38:14, 39:28, 62:16, 62:17, 62:20, 62:24, 63:18, 69:23, 72:12, 72:15, 75:9, 75:12, 75:20, 76:23, 78:16, 78:26
Iris [2] - 31:26, 57:21Irish [6] - 3:12, 33:12,
33:17, 34:25, 64:4, 69:4irrespective [1] - 53:28isolated [1] - 19:28issue [8] - 2:12, 9:15,
16:11, 18:25, 31:9, 36:22, 83:28, 94:3
issued [3] - 8:11, 39:23, 78:9
issues [2] - 8:13, 88:16issuing [1] - 78:6itself [1] - 68:25
JJ.J [1] - 29:3Jack [1] - 94:15Jacks [3] - 6:18, 6:19,
6:21James's [1] - 31:30January [14] - 3:18, 3:20,
3:23, 3:24, 13:11, 13:19, 13:21, 32:21, 33:8, 33:19, 33:22, 33:25, 34:26
Jean [4] - 90:19, 91:11, 91:19, 92:16
jewel [1] - 58:21Jimmy [2] - 90:2, 93:23job [8] - 28:17, 50:30,
54:4, 64:26, 65:6, 81:29, 85:14, 86:13
John [21] - 15:26, 18:3, 18:10, 21:24, 37:3, 43:24, 45:27, 76:15, 76:27, 77:2, 77:18, 89:30, 90:11, 90:15, 91:3, 91:16, 92:11, 92:15, 93:6, 93:7, 93:10
joined [2] - 62:13, 86:12
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joint [2] - 67:9, 67:18Judge [6] - 5:30, 23:5,
25:19, 27:10, 30:26, 51:6
judge [2] - 36:1, 36:7July [13] - 15:14, 15:18,
21:7, 24:3, 26:16, 36:25, 37:6, 37:8, 37:12, 39:19, 41:3, 43:12, 44:15
JUNE [1] - 1:1June.. [1] - 94:25jurisdiction [1] - 78:26Justice [1] - 28:14
KKeeley [2] - 52:23, 55:2keep [2] - 8:9, 94:29keeping [2] - 45:12, 81:21kept [1] - 59:13kept.. [1] - 69:21Kevin [2] - 55:3, 90:24kidnap [3] - 17:6, 26:24,
43:24kidnapped [8] - 14:24,
15:27, 16:26, 20:2, 40:9, 40:15, 40:18, 87:25
kidnapping [7] - 2:12, 16:8, 16:21, 17:18, 19:29, 26:15, 37:13
Kildare [1] - 42:5killed [1] - 49:23kind [1] - 74:21kindly [3] - 24:25, 79:23,
90:6knowing [1] - 89:3knowledge [34] - 19:19,
30:14, 30:22, 36:28, 37:5, 37:12, 37:21, 37:25, 37:26, 38:15, 38:20, 38:26, 39:18, 39:30, 40:4, 40:10, 40:27, 41:2, 41:8, 41:13, 41:23, 41:26, 42:10, 42:17, 53:11, 55:18, 56:6, 57:29, 58:10, 58:25, 60:7, 60:10, 65:12, 65:18
known [10] - 19:19, 19:21, 20:25, 38:22, 38:23, 44:23, 55:2, 56:1, 65:11, 82:12
Llack [1] - 13:24Lady [4] - 91:20, 92:16,
92:24, 93:11land [1] - 65:25Landsdowne [1] - 67:15large [18] - 6:9, 6:14,
33:14, 39:8, 44:10, 49:15, 62:27, 62:28, 65:27, 76:20, 76:22, 80:9, 80:14, 80:15, 80:18, 83:14, 83:15, 88:19
largely [1] - 65:27last [6] - 13:20, 44:1,
46:2, 47:6, 88:11, 91:29lastly [1] - 87:28late [12] - 17:28, 62:6,
62:14, 66:23, 67:6, 67:9, 74:20, 74:25, 80:8, 82:28, 93:3, 94:15
latter [1] - 93:15laundering [3] - 79:29,
80:2, 80:3Laverty [1] - 72:8lead [6] - 7:18, 64:1,
64:11, 64:12, 71:19leak [5] - 47:12, 47:30,
48:28, 49:2leaking [1] - 69:29learn [1] - 28:25learnt [1] - 20:2leave [5] - 14:3, 90:20,
91:9, 93:3, 93:4leaving [1] - 34:10led [4] - 22:7, 40:2, 47:12,
67:14left [3] - 27:16, 63:7,
91:26legal [3] - 63:10, 63:13,
63:15legible [4] - 14:13, 14:14,
24:26, 24:27legislation [9] - 63:16,
63:17, 64:2, 73:26, 75:7, 75:8, 75:10, 83:8, 83:19
legitimate [2] - 78:23, 78:24
Lehane [3] - 94:2, 94:21, 94:27
LEHANE [4] - 88:8, 88:10, 89:12, 94:10
Lehane's [1] - 94:24lengths [1] - 80:20lengthy [2] - 14:10, 53:21less [4] - 19:5, 36:29,
69:27letter [7] - 24:1, 24:4,
24:7, 24:20, 29:18, 30:11, 72:11
level [1] - 52:28levels [1] - 49:30liaison [1] - 73:17licensed [1] - 29:2life [8] - 18:22, 19:9,
19:20, 19:21, 19:23, 37:17, 37:27, 90:28
life-span [1] - 18:22light [7] - 2:18, 14:8,
15:13, 24:23, 54:19, 94:11, 94:13
likelihood [1] - 46:20likely [2] - 15:13, 74:29limited [1] - 18:22line [6] - 3:7, 50:30, 57:5,
57:13, 66:14, 74:27Line' [2] - 90:6, 92:12listen [2] - 45:26, 51:15litany [1] - 49:26literally [1] - 84:16
litigation [4] - 21:29, 22:2, 38:13, 38:19
lived [2] - 40:15, 48:18load [2] - 39:12, 62:21local [8] - 42:5, 52:8,
52:12, 52:19, 82:11, 82:15, 83:6, 83:12
location [3] - 19:29, 22:19, 42:16
logistics [1] - 67:17look [4] - 69:15, 70:2,
75:3, 78:19looked [5] - 53:10, 64:26,
72:18, 85:14, 88:16looking [8] - 55:5, 58:14,
64:26, 65:6, 65:7, 66:26, 85:9, 94:27
loose [3] - 70:3, 70:5, 70:9
lorries [3] - 73:24, 74:21, 84:7
Louth [3] - 29:3, 69:6, 85:1
low [1] - 31:29luck [1] - 25:27lucky [1] - 32:1lunchtime [1] - 5:10
Mmail [2] - 92:6, 93:29main [2] - 47:7, 78:20Mains [1] - 71:6maize [1] - 66:19Majesty's [7] - 65:28,
66:6, 66:12, 68:5, 70:29, 71:26, 74:4
major [4] - 13:27, 39:7, 63:25, 86:7
malice [5] - 44:12, 50:1, 50:3, 50:6, 52:28
man [10] - 11:1, 11:3, 17:23, 37:21, 45:3, 51:2, 58:20, 58:26, 88:2, 88:3
management [8] - 22:1, 22:3, 22:15, 38:18, 38:25, 38:27, 41:11, 41:30
managers [1] - 38:30mandated [1] - 64:21manifestation [1] - 64:28manner [1] - 58:29manually [1] - 73:15map [1] - 73:28March [6] - 71:4, 72:14,
72:23, 73:16, 73:19, 73:21
marginalised [1] - 49:11mark [1] - 87:1marriage [4] - 16:29,
91:20, 92:24, 93:11married [2] - 56:24, 90:28masked [1] - 26:24mat [1] - 20:9match [1] - 36:7material [1] - 23:20matter [20] - 2:9, 2:10,
2:12, 2:15, 2:30, 4:25, 5:14, 9:8, 14:7, 20:18, 21:2, 30:30, 56:28, 82:16, 89:27, 89:28, 90:3, 94:1, 94:5, 94:7
matters [9] - 2:27, 4:11, 5:27, 23:13, 25:14, 46:28, 61:15, 61:16, 75:17
McAnulty [34] - 2:12, 14:24, 15:27, 16:25, 20:2, 21:24, 21:28, 21:30, 22:5, 22:13, 22:20, 26:20, 30:9, 36:22, 37:4, 37:11, 37:16, 37:20, 38:12, 38:17, 39:5, 39:15, 39:28, 40:17, 41:2, 42:16, 43:24, 45:27, 55:14, 57:5, 57:16, 76:27, 77:2, 77:19
McAnulty's [2] - 19:19, 26:15
McArdle [1] - 17:23McCrae [1] - 6:20McGill [10] - 1:8, 61:19,
62:1, 62:4, 77:29, 79:6, 80:13, 84:12, 89:22
McGrath [1] - 49:10McGUINNESS [5] - 26:7,
26:10, 26:13, 27:29, 30:29
McKeon [1] - 46:8McKevitt [1] - 47:3McNulty [1] - 21:27meals [1] - 50:9mean [34] - 9:24, 56:11,
56:16, 56:19, 64:20, 64:29, 64:30, 65:1, 65:14, 68:10, 68:14, 68:23, 69:13, 69:14, 69:15, 69:19, 69:24, 70:5, 75:26, 76:2, 76:20, 79:29, 81:4, 83:3, 83:24, 83:28, 85:8, 86:29, 87:2, 87:8, 87:9
mean.. [1] - 87:27means [2] - 8:27, 10:11meant [1] - 63:21meanwhile [2] - 22:5,
39:28medicines [1] - 77:28meet [2] - 6:11, 71:3meeting [4] - 71:5, 71:7,
72:13, 72:15mellowed [1] - 34:22member [20] - 8:11, 8:15,
22:17, 29:25, 42:13, 42:28, 42:30, 43:1, 43:3, 44:17, 44:23, 52:5, 52:25, 53:13, 54:9, 56:24, 69:30, 70:4, 70:9, 79:24
members [15] - 7:7, 8:3, 16:19, 19:15, 22:2, 23:16, 35:26, 36:2, 38:24, 45:12, 50:10,
51:26, 52:20, 91:17, 94:14
membership [1] - 84:4memory [1] - 79:1men [3] - 26:24, 50:23,
83:12mention [4] - 1:5, 5:24,
28:20, 88:20mentioned [16] - 4:4,
4:24, 7:20, 11:23, 20:8, 30:14, 40:26, 41:5, 42:19, 46:2, 64:13, 72:16, 72:18, 76:28, 81:15, 83:8
mentioning [1] - 30:27merit [1] - 49:21message [1] - 15:2messages [1] - 16:19met [7] - 6:11, 20:18,
20:21, 33:18, 71:27, 91:12, 92:21
method [2] - 78:12, 78:13methods [1] - 73:5MICHAEL [1] - 62:1Michael [2] - 1:7, 61:19microphone [1] - 6:4mid [1] - 80:8middle [1] - 90:18midnight [1] - 91:25might [12] - 2:16, 13:24,
19:4, 20:11, 20:15, 20:26, 26:3, 48:28, 72:9, 74:11, 78:14, 85:11
military [2] - 73:18, 73:20Mill [1] - 73:16mill [1] - 73:18Mills [8] - 3:1, 3:30,
10:14, 10:28, 14:21, 21:3, 36:30, 90:6
mind [8] - 3:27, 6:5, 40:17, 44:25, 48:10, 52:22, 61:12, 73:10
mine [1] - 58:24Minister [1] - 31:19minute [4] - 24:16, 24:20,
51:15, 57:4minutes [4] - 54:3, 61:7,
61:17, 84:16mishandling [1] - 60:9misleading [2] - 28:26,
28:28missed [1] - 40:7missive [1] - 28:18mistake [1] - 10:19MLA [1] - 93:23mobile [1] - 27:9modest [1] - 58:26modestly [1] - 58:20modus [1] - 73:9moment [4] - 25:15,
34:11, 59:18, 89:3Monaghan [5] - 3:13,
6:25, 6:26, 31:22, 82:9Monday [3] - 25:27, 35:1,
35:7money [8] - 39:24, 62:27,
62:28, 80:14, 80:19,
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86:16, 86:20, 86:28monitor [1] - 63:9monitoring [3] - 22:17,
42:14, 82:22month's [1] - 69:19months [2] - 24:15, 31:22months' [1] - 50:24morning [23] - 1:3, 2:17,
6:8, 14:8, 16:3, 17:20, 17:29, 18:4, 18:10, 23:28, 24:24, 25:8, 26:16, 27:26, 29:11, 31:8, 42:24, 55:1, 55:13, 57:23, 66:15, 76:28, 91:12
most [12] - 23:24, 30:21, 35:25, 36:29, 41:24, 45:20, 49:1, 73:8, 76:11, 76:13, 87:16, 93:18
mount [2] - 27:8, 76:6mounted [2] - 6:9, 82:18mounting [1] - 84:30move [4] - 14:4, 36:22,
61:1, 83:9moved [6] - 19:25, 66:23,
66:25, 73:23, 76:17movement [2] - 65:30,
74:30movements [2] - 68:17,
72:1moving [4] - 19:9, 19:10,
74:22, 81:24MR [50] - 1:3, 1:14, 2:1,
2:8, 12:30, 25:1, 25:7, 25:12, 25:14, 25:23, 26:7, 26:10, 26:13, 27:29, 30:29, 31:5, 31:8, 48:13, 54:12, 54:16, 54:27, 54:29, 55:1, 57:16, 57:21, 60:16, 60:21, 60:29, 61:3, 61:5, 61:14, 62:2, 62:4, 70:27, 79:6, 79:9, 79:11, 79:13, 84:12, 84:14, 84:16, 88:6, 88:8, 88:10, 89:12, 89:16, 89:20, 89:27, 94:10, 94:23
MS [1] - 54:23murder [3] - 19:29, 42:8,
51:30murdered [1] - 20:2murders [6] - 22:16,
41:12, 41:18, 41:30, 42:11, 47:13
Murphy [7] - 72:16, 73:4, 73:27, 75:29, 86:2, 86:6, 86:7
Murphy's [9] - 71:12, 71:13, 71:16, 72:2, 73:3, 73:12, 73:14, 74:22, 75:18
Murphys [6] - 66:29, 67:6, 67:9, 75:24, 76:1, 76:7
Murphys' [1] - 67:28Murphys's [1] - 73:23
must [3] - 14:18, 39:20, 52:10
mutual [1] - 63:17MV4 [1] - 78:7
Nnaively [1] - 85:9name [10] - 9:12, 28:12,
30:27, 40:24, 46:4, 48:16, 48:17, 52:24, 55:1, 58:5
named [7] - 21:29, 22:10, 22:12, 38:13, 40:21, 40:23, 40:30
names [1] - 41:6National [1] - 69:1natural [1] - 17:11nature [7] - 7:11, 8:14,
30:10, 48:30, 67:21, 70:14, 70:16
nearby [1] - 8:20nearest [2] - 78:29, 78:30nearly [2] - 14:11, 49:23necessarily [1] - 23:12necessary [2] - 5:24,
93:29necessity [1] - 76:7need [6] - 3:27, 5:9,
14:15, 25:8, 61:15, 94:16
needed [1] - 78:28needs [1] - 15:22Neil [1] - 55:1netting [1] - 72:19network [1] - 87:14never [39] - 13:4, 18:19,
19:19, 21:13, 23:23, 23:25, 29:20, 33:3, 34:14, 34:17, 40:28, 42:18, 42:19, 43:26, 47:16, 49:13, 49:22, 52:9, 52:10, 52:21, 52:29, 53:2, 53:8, 53:9, 55:8, 57:10, 57:12, 59:11, 68:12, 76:2, 77:13, 77:18, 87:9, 87:10, 90:15
new [5] - 2:18, 49:9, 49:12, 56:1
Newry [1] - 83:13next [13] - 9:5, 9:18,
10:14, 11:6, 13:18, 21:9, 24:23, 25:19, 25:20, 25:21, 25:30, 29:11, 54:17
nice [1] - 25:10night [11] - 16:9, 16:13,
16:30, 19:28, 23:17, 23:19, 27:9, 27:24, 28:3, 28:8, 28:10
nine [1] - 17:21nineties [2] - 80:8, 84:29nobody [3] - 19:18, 23:7,
37:17Nolan [17] - 18:3, 18:11,
24:3, 24:10, 27:20, 28:2, 28:7, 28:10,
28:21, 28:26, 29:3, 29:6, 30:2, 30:7, 50:17, 76:15
none [3] - 50:9, 70:21, 70:23
nonetheless [1] - 54:18nonsense [2] - 56:23,
58:17normal [1] - 44:26normally [2] - 52:20,
81:28north [21] - 6:25, 12:19,
36:1, 39:16, 62:22, 63:19, 63:22, 63:30, 66:4, 66:22, 80:7, 80:10, 80:15, 80:25, 81:18, 81:19, 83:9, 83:18, 85:1
North [2] - 62:24, 75:16northern [5] - 65:25,
65:26, 66:7, 66:12, 76:24
Northern [16] - 22:5, 23:16, 31:19, 39:28, 62:17, 62:20, 63:18, 69:23, 72:11, 72:15, 75:9, 75:12, 75:20, 76:23, 78:16, 78:26
note [3] - 20:22, 75:23, 76:10
Note' [2] - 20:17, 20:25notebook [1] - 45:11noted [1] - 72:24notes [1] - 20:20nothing [8] - 5:17, 5:18,
28:16, 30:10, 45:8, 72:25, 74:16
notice [2] - 2:5, 45:18NOTICE [1] - 95:1notified [2] - 2:14, 27:5notwithstanding [1] -
52:28November [8] - 3:17,
22:22, 66:16, 66:18, 90:24, 90:30, 92:17, 92:29
nowadays [1] - 83:14nowhere [1] - 74:7number [8] - 8:17, 8:19,
65:16, 66:5, 73:5, 73:13, 78:18, 91:8
numbers [1] - 74:21
OO'Callaghan [1] - 31:3O'CALLAGHAN [4] -
31:5, 31:8, 48:13, 54:12o'clock [4] - 1:8, 1:10,
16:13, 61:12O'Connell [1] - 90:2O'SULLIVAN [1] - 54:23objected [1] - 6:20objections [1] - 6:17obliged [2] - 50:22, 79:19Observation [1] - 72:21observation [2] - 73:13,
74:8
observations [2] - 72:10, 72:16
obtained [1] - 39:8obtaining [2] - 39:24,
50:7obviously [4] - 19:26,
28:13, 72:5, 92:1occasion [22] - 7:21,
10:4, 10:6, 10:9, 11:7, 32:12, 33:4, 33:7, 34:28, 35:17, 35:30, 44:2, 44:20, 44:21, 46:2, 47:6, 54:17, 60:8, 76:4, 77:27, 80:28, 81:1
occasions [1] - 78:13occurred [4] - 4:12, 30:4,
91:5, 91:9October [7] - 3:16, 8:22,
22:24, 29:1, 42:21, 92:30, 93:3
offer [1] - 3:28Office [1] - 72:12office [3] - 26:26, 26:28,
28:18Officer [1] - 62:6officer [13] - 7:30, 27:14,
28:23, 46:3, 46:16, 57:25, 58:5, 60:1, 62:7, 69:30, 70:20, 70:29, 73:18
officers [16] - 18:1, 22:16, 27:5, 28:21, 29:15, 38:9, 41:12, 42:11, 51:20, 59:25, 64:17, 75:16, 81:7, 82:11, 83:6, 85:7
officers.. [1] - 42:1offices [1] - 78:10official [6] - 23:26, 49:16,
72:11, 81:24, 91:13, 92:22
officials [7] - 81:1, 81:11, 82:2, 82:5, 83:9, 83:23, 83:25
often [1] - 68:26oil [19] - 66:26, 67:5,
71:18, 71:22, 72:1, 75:5, 76:17, 79:28, 79:29, 80:2, 80:11, 83:26, 84:1, 85:27, 86:2, 86:8, 88:16, 88:19
old [1] - 78:7Oliver [1] - 51:30Omeath [1] - 82:8omitted [1] - 28:1ON [1] - 1:1on-the-spot [1] - 31:25once [5] - 24:26, 37:20,
49:30, 60:21, 76:17one [56] - 9:5, 9:18, 9:26,
10:14, 11:6, 12:1, 14:1, 20:1, 20:20, 21:2, 21:4, 21:5, 30:17, 34:5, 35:26, 38:30, 39:20, 39:27, 47:5, 49:20, 50:27, 53:20, 53:21, 53:25, 53:26, 57:4, 60:8, 60:29, 61:6,
61:12, 63:6, 64:13, 64:26, 65:11, 66:4, 67:11, 70:4, 70:5, 73:13, 74:2, 76:4, 77:29, 78:6, 78:12, 78:15, 79:19, 83:23, 85:12, 86:20, 89:27, 93:17
one-hundred-pound [1] - 20:20
ongoing [2] - 14:29, 81:11
open [4] - 17:9, 23:7, 26:28, 33:11
operandi [1] - 73:9operate [3] - 63:14,
69:24, 81:27operated [12] - 39:14,
63:14, 63:16, 65:1, 65:2, 68:19, 68:20, 68:27, 75:29, 84:28, 85:19
operating [2] - 62:7, 68:11
operation [26] - 6:9, 39:7, 41:7, 63:25, 65:29, 66:3, 66:16, 67:10, 67:12, 67:18, 67:20, 67:21, 71:12, 71:16, 71:17, 71:18, 74:27, 74:29, 74:30, 75:1, 75:13, 75:22, 76:6, 77:1, 85:10
operationally [2] - 63:11, 66:28
operations [14] - 29:7, 63:30, 64:5, 64:8, 71:20, 71:29, 72:17, 73:3, 73:14, 76:24, 81:28, 84:30, 88:12, 88:16
opinion [4] - 38:21, 51:12, 59:5, 65:11
opportunity [3] - 15:9, 23:28, 24:4
opposed [1] - 75:25order [7] - 42:6, 53:12,
53:14, 53:29, 82:16, 86:24, 87:12
ordinary [1] - 24:22organisation [1] - 88:28organise [2] - 67:17,
67:19organised [3] - 67:14,
69:1, 71:20origin [1] - 29:24original [3] - 30:16,
53:16, 53:20originally [1] - 54:5ostracised [2] - 49:8,
49:11otherwise [3] - 46:12,
69:18, 85:11ourselves [5] - 67:13,
68:6, 74:13, 90:27outfit [1] - 91:24outline [1] - 77:23output [1] - 56:5
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outset [1] - 14:29outside [2] - 3:14, 6:14outstanding [1] - 54:19over-stepping [1] - 74:27overlapped [1] - 74:14overleaf [1] - 91:3overtaken [1] - 2:17overtime [1] - 93:1overview [3] - 51:16,
62:11, 63:10owe [1] - 20:22owed [2] - 20:21, 20:24Owen [14] - 11:19, 20:30,
31:9, 52:29, 53:2, 55:18, 55:28, 56:30, 57:11, 57:28, 59:6, 59:19, 60:6, 90:2
own [16] - 49:14, 58:19, 68:21, 68:24, 68:29, 68:30, 69:2, 69:3, 69:11, 69:12, 70:5, 83:5, 88:23, 88:25, 88:28
own.. [1] - 83:2
Pp.m [1] - 91:26Paddy [1] - 90:2page [14] - 3:30, 4:1,
14:21, 31:15, 53:20, 53:25, 90:9, 90:18, 91:3, 91:6, 91:8, 91:18, 91:22
pages [3] - 14:11, 53:19, 53:23
paid [5] - 25:21, 44:23, 44:24, 62:21, 79:4
Paisley [9] - 6:7, 6:11, 6:16, 6:18, 7:9, 12:7, 32:8, 32:25, 33:19
paisley [3] - 6:26, 7:16, 33:29
Paisley's [1] - 12:4paper [2] - 52:24, 78:22paragraph [3] - 90:18,
91:10, 91:22paramilitaries [3] - 84:20,
85:18, 87:5paramilitary [1] - 84:24pardon [6] - 10:28, 16:24,
34:16, 36:5, 37:2, 56:13part [10] - 31:13, 36:9,
36:12, 36:14, 36:17, 44:10, 62:23, 65:28, 80:2, 93:4
participate [1] - 63:22particular [24] - 9:15,
10:11, 18:4, 29:24, 33:12, 34:28, 44:27, 51:19, 63:2, 65:6, 66:4, 66:10, 66:11, 66:15, 67:11, 67:30, 69:28, 72:18, 75:6, 78:5, 78:6, 79:4, 86:16, 88:20
particularly [12] - 19:15, 56:9, 63:4, 63:14, 63:29, 64:6, 64:8,
65:17, 68:19, 71:18, 82:27, 84:23
parties [4] - 2:13, 14:5, 25:15, 70:21
party [1] - 44:18pass [1] - 13:13passage [2] - 15:22,
82:12passed [1] - 73:15passing [2] - 4:17, 60:6past [3] - 17:20, 61:12,
81:4Pat [4] - 18:5, 18:6, 28:9patch [1] - 87:21Patrick [1] - 29:4patrolling [1] - 82:8patrols [1] - 27:9pause [2] - 7:29, 9:23pay [3] - 20:24, 87:5, 87:7paying [4] - 50:7, 50:8,
78:11, 87:22payment [2] - 22:4, 39:18pays [2] - 86:27, 86:28peculiar [1] - 16:29pen [1] - 17:23pencil [1] - 60:5pendulum [1] - 65:30people [33] - 17:9, 23:17,
26:3, 32:1, 39:8, 39:23, 41:6, 50:29, 51:25, 56:10, 56:27, 64:23, 64:24, 68:3, 68:24, 68:26, 69:16, 69:27, 70:3, 72:4, 75:21, 76:13, 76:16, 78:9, 82:13, 83:29, 84:4, 86:24, 87:4, 87:8, 87:16, 87:28, 89:3
per [1] - 72:20percent [7] - 17:26,
37:23, 43:22, 46:17, 47:2, 58:1, 86:28
perform [1] - 50:5perhaps [2] - 18:5, 26:20period [11] - 11:7, 50:24,
70:28, 72:19, 75:30, 90:20, 91:5, 93:2, 93:4, 93:5
periodic [1] - 73:24periphery [1] - 77:7persisted [2] - 34:29,
35:1person [10] - 13:26,
22:10, 40:16, 40:21, 40:23, 40:24, 40:26, 44:24, 53:29, 72:2
personal [6] - 58:25, 81:11, 83:22, 83:25, 83:28, 93:13
personally [2] - 76:5, 77:3
personnel [3] - 8:16, 86:3, 86:4
persons [2] - 30:13, 41:4perspective [1] - 5:27pertaining [1] - 31:9Peter [14] - 2:10, 2:30,
4:5, 4:22, 4:25, 5:19,
6:1, 7:2, 31:19, 52:23, 57:21, 58:14, 58:23, 59:23
phrase [3] - 56:16, 56:19, 84:20
pick [1] - 58:22picnic [1] - 12:8picture [2] - 31:14, 41:14piece [2] - 45:22, 69:15PIRA [20] - 21:25, 21:28,
21:30, 22:3, 22:4, 22:7, 22:11, 22:12, 22:14, 37:4, 38:17, 38:24, 39:17, 40:3, 40:22, 40:30, 41:1, 41:10, 41:28
pistol [1] - 9:5pitch [1] - 74:7place [7] - 19:25, 19:28,
52:6, 60:22, 66:16, 72:13, 91:29
places [1] - 52:21plainly [1] - 94:1plan [1] - 73:25planned [1] - 81:28planning [3] - 80:21,
81:21, 81:22plate [2] - 78:16, 78:17played [1] - 63:2player [1] - 86:7pocket [2] - 20:19, 20:20point [12] - 5:9, 16:21,
17:5, 18:13, 24:22, 49:6, 73:21, 73:23, 82:25, 83:22, 84:6, 87:20
points [2] - 55:12, 94:5poking [1] - 60:5Police [1] - 90:23police [7] - 6:9, 44:17,
66:7, 74:28, 81:23, 85:1, 85:3
policy [1] - 72:14political [1] - 74:28pollution [2] - 56:26, 59:4pollution' [2] - 56:16,
56:19poor [1] - 2:24position [5] - 9:28, 21:6,
26:8, 54:18, 94:24positive [1] - 43:17possession [3] - 11:16,
34:18, 40:5possibility [1] - 48:28possible [3] - 19:24,
25:12, 81:26possibly [7] - 57:4, 70:4,
71:23, 73:26, 74:16, 85:10, 86:30
posted [1] - 94:29potentially [1] - 80:14pound [2] - 20:20, 20:21power [2] - 31:28, 51:25powers [2] - 63:26practical [1] - 64:28practice [1] - 64:30pre [1] - 75:25pre-emptive [1] - 75:25
precedes [1] - 13:11preceding [1] - 93:1precise [1] - 66:21precisely [3] - 56:3, 68:3,
68:12preempt [1] - 76:2preferring [1] - 91:24premises [3] - 29:2, 67:3,
77:27Prenty [45] - 1:6, 1:7, 1:9,
1:14, 2:4, 2:9, 2:11, 2:14, 2:27, 3:28, 5:11, 5:13, 5:25, 14:7, 24:25, 26:13, 30:5, 31:8, 31:11, 32:6, 34:10, 36:20, 37:6, 37:12, 37:15, 40:7, 40:25, 43:2, 43:10, 43:18, 44:11, 45:30, 47:9, 48:14, 49:29, 50:21, 54:17, 55:1, 55:6, 60:24, 76:14, 87:29, 90:4
PRENTY [1] - 2:1preparation [1] - 54:9prepare [2] - 53:14, 53:30prepared [13] - 2:13,
14:9, 14:15, 22:23, 22:24, 35:24, 36:23, 36:24, 42:21, 43:1, 44:13, 48:6, 53:13
presence [1] - 28:1present [4] - 12:12,
31:19, 63:21, 63:22presented [1] - 37:28pressure [2] - 22:1, 38:18presumably [1] - 39:2presume [4] - 3:15, 8:26,
17:16, 25:25pretty [3] - 19:17, 19:22,
57:30previous [5] - 11:3,
35:30, 71:7, 91:8, 93:15previously [1] - 8:28price [2] - 62:19prices [3] - 80:5, 80:6,
80:8primarily [1] - 90:27primary [1] - 75:11principle [1] - 8:1prisoner [1] - 59:12probation [1] - 50:24problem [12] - 11:30,
12:1, 25:19, 35:6, 44:16, 60:6, 74:11, 74:12, 74:14, 75:4, 79:29, 80:9
problems [2] - 17:9, 49:26
procedure [5] - 8:7, 16:18, 27:7, 44:3, 50:30
proceeding [1] - 7:15proceedings [2] - 3:17,
67:7produce [5] - 2:23, 2:24,
14:13, 41:21, 42:8produced [4] - 2:26,
30:18, 45:27, 78:10
product [1] - 80:11productive [1] - 56:25proficiency [1] - 13:2profit [2] - 72:19, 72:27prolific [1] - 65:16promised [1] - 48:9promoters [1] - 88:21proof [2] - 41:21, 86:19properly [2] - 28:17,
49:22property [1] - 50:7propose [1] - 93:27proposed [4] - 71:10,
71:11, 71:12, 71:29prosecutions [1] - 75:6protect [2] - 19:26, 80:20protest [1] - 3:12prove [1] - 73:12provide [4] - 43:5, 64:6,
64:7, 64:9provided [14] - 2:11, 2:19,
3:7, 3:19, 4:5, 22:11, 23:21, 29:25, 40:22, 42:27, 43:12, 44:14, 46:11, 49:25
providing [2] - 77:10, 77:14
Provisional [1] - 37:11précis [14] - 2:24, 2:25,
14:14, 15:20, 24:27, 30:15, 37:2, 39:17, 41:17, 44:6, 44:7, 55:25, 55:27
PSNI [3] - 46:9, 46:11, 46:27
pub [7] - 16:23, 16:25, 16:28, 17:7, 19:28, 52:19
pulled [1] - 81:29puncture [3] - 12:3, 12:6,
12:7purchase [1] - 78:25purchased [1] - 78:25purely [2] - 66:1, 67:16purports [1] - 47:11purpose [4] - 38:5, 39:24,
45:11, 52:20purposes [1] - 83:20pursuance [1] - 18:21pursue [2] - 22:2, 38:19pursuing [1] - 14:28push [3] - 25:27, 31:30,
36:20pussy [1] - 86:14put [45] - 2:26, 3:1, 4:3,
5:9, 5:27, 8:7, 10:28, 13:6, 15:21, 15:22, 17:30, 19:30, 21:3, 22:1, 23:11, 28:28, 30:15, 36:30, 38:18, 39:20, 47:5, 48:2, 54:1, 54:2, 55:27, 56:10, 57:13, 60:8, 62:25, 70:12, 70:13, 72:9, 78:17, 80:21, 83:24, 84:1, 86:1, 90:4, 90:11, 92:1, 92:3, 93:28
puts [3] - 56:23, 94:1,
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94:8putting [2] - 28:26, 90:6
Qqualification [2] - 8:13,
11:17qualified [2] - 8:15, 13:15qualify [1] - 8:3qualities [1] - 85:12questioned [3] - 22:6,
39:29, 42:2questioning [3] - 30:30,
39:16, 54:17questions [14] - 26:7,
31:2, 37:1, 37:16, 54:14, 54:16, 54:27, 55:8, 79:7, 79:9, 79:20, 89:16, 89:18, 89:20
quite [10] - 14:10, 49:28, 52:8, 66:30, 68:20, 73:19, 75:29, 81:26
quote [1] - 47:11
Rradio [1] - 16:19RAFFERTY [9] - 54:27,
54:29, 55:1, 57:16, 57:21, 60:16, 84:14, 84:16, 88:6
Rafferty [1] - 55:2raids [1] - 66:3raised [3] - 6:17, 55:12,
72:29rammed [2] - 81:5, 81:7ran [1] - 41:7random [1] - 72:22range [4] - 8:6, 8:20,
8:21, 60:8rank [1] - 27:14rate [1] - 79:3rather [10] - 2:24, 4:19,
17:11, 72:27, 73:11, 76:18, 79:30, 86:3, 89:2, 93:17
re [3] - 60:19, 60:21, 89:20
re-examination [3] - 60:19, 60:21, 89:20
react [1] - 76:3reactive [1] - 75:25read [13] - 15:9, 23:28,
24:4, 30:18, 31:10, 31:13, 36:17, 37:14, 42:24, 91:18, 92:7, 92:13, 94:12
readable [1] - 15:17readily [1] - 6:19reading [1] - 61:16real [1] - 40:24reality [3] - 14:6, 43:10,
85:17really [8] - 9:26, 56:15,
56:21, 68:14, 83:3, 85:6, 86:29, 87:26
reason [11] - 20:17, 44:1, 47:7, 48:20, 57:9,
59:28, 69:21, 78:15, 84:10, 85:22
reasons [2] - 6:10, 13:1reassembling [1] - 8:8reassure [1] - 90:27recalling [2] - 73:10, 94:4receive [3] - 19:15, 22:4,
39:17received [7] - 15:3, 26:18,
39:3, 43:23, 56:10, 67:22, 92:6
recent [1] - 2:17recently [2] - 21:28, 38:12recognised [2] - 39:22,
81:18recollection [6] - 12:25,
35:22, 55:18, 56:6, 58:10, 59:10
recommendations [1] - 50:27
recommended [1] - 44:2record [8] - 29:1, 29:11,
61:16, 79:19, 90:4, 92:7, 92:13, 94:12
recorded [2] - 30:10, 49:16
records [2] - 11:15, 68:4recounting [2] - 91:19,
91:20recounts [2] - 91:3, 91:18recruited [1] - 32:1red [2] - 46:5, 46:12Red [1] - 8:20redacted [1] - 30:26refer [2] - 28:1, 67:20reference [7] - 35:26,
42:27, 55:21, 59:17, 68:28, 69:9, 74:3
referred [10] - 28:30, 29:18, 40:24, 43:6, 62:22, 65:10, 72:12, 72:13, 75:21, 76:26
referring [6] - 23:12, 24:11, 32:12, 32:13, 33:4, 42:30
refers [2] - 15:17, 32:18refresh [3] - 8:26, 8:30,
9:6refresh" [1] - 8:26refresher [1] - 8:27refused [2] - 44:30, 91:23refute [2] - 36:20, 36:21regard [2] - 89:1, 90:1regarding [2] - 22:18,
42:15regards [1] - 69:29regime [4] - 49:7, 49:9,
49:12, 49:14registered [1] - 78:11registration [1] - 78:28regular [2] - 45:17, 76:1regularly [2] - 75:19,
76:10reiterate [1] - 70:20relate [1] - 70:14related [1] - 70:16relates [2] - 10:15, 90:9relating [1] - 78:27
relation [43] - 7:20, 10:20, 11:8, 11:16, 25:19, 26:14, 30:30, 31:21, 40:5, 41:27, 43:24, 44:23, 46:28, 51:12, 55:12, 55:14, 55:30, 57:3, 71:10, 71:16, 72:1, 72:10, 74:2, 74:21, 74:30, 75:6, 75:17, 75:24, 77:28, 78:21, 84:28, 86:15, 87:12, 88:10, 88:22, 89:29, 90:12, 91:16, 93:10, 93:21, 93:25, 93:28
relationship [2] - 16:29, 83:17
relationships [1] - 82:2release [1] - 30:26released [3] - 22:7, 40:2,
40:20relevant [1] - 46:10reliable [1] - 45:16relied [3] - 43:11, 43:18,
44:15rely [2] - 68:16, 86:24remaining [1] - 91:22remains [1] - 23:6remember [14] - 4:16,
5:5, 5:10, 7:17, 17:21, 38:28, 40:23, 46:4, 46:6, 47:25, 50:10, 55:20, 59:24, 68:2
remove [4] - 6:19, 64:18, 64:29, 73:27
removed [1] - 39:12repairing [1] - 12:6repeat [3] - 24:8, 45:10,
79:19replicates [1] - 29:19reply [1] - 51:28report [33] - 15:4, 15:9,
15:18, 17:15, 20:8, 22:23, 22:29, 23:11, 23:13, 23:20, 24:14, 24:17, 24:19, 26:18, 28:19, 28:27, 28:28, 28:29, 28:30, 29:1, 29:23, 29:30, 42:21, 42:24, 42:26, 43:1, 43:2, 43:3, 43:4, 43:11, 50:22, 51:12, 72:20
report.. [1] - 22:25reported [13] - 17:2,
21:24, 21:26, 21:28, 21:30, 22:17, 26:24, 37:3, 37:10, 38:12, 38:17, 42:13, 74:25
reports [1] - 2:13representation [1] -
70:21represented [1] - 66:14reprimanded [2] - 28:11,
28:13Republic [4] - 21:29,
38:14, 62:16, 62:20reputation [1] - 50:4requested [1] - 72:20
require [3] - 73:25, 85:1, 85:3
required [4] - 7:18, 54:9, 64:8, 93:21
rescue [1] - 80:29reserve [7] - 25:15, 26:8,
30:29, 54:18, 57:16, 60:16, 60:21
respect [6] - 2:10, 34:27, 37:2, 45:26, 45:28, 90:10
respectively [1] - 64:5respite [1] - 90:19respond [1] - 16:20response [1] - 77:12responsibilities [2] -
28:7, 35:29responsibility [3] - 28:6,
51:19, 66:24responsible [13] - 7:4,
7:5, 22:13, 22:14, 22:15, 41:1, 41:10, 41:11, 41:17, 41:29, 41:30, 42:11, 44:18
rest [3] - 33:13, 48:27, 49:17
result [3] - 37:14, 66:21, 72:27
resume [1] - 94:25RESUMED [1] - 1:1retire [1] - 79:14retired [4] - 59:5, 59:10,
79:13, 79:21retrieve [1] - 80:26return [7] - 6:24, 22:5,
39:18, 86:25, 90:30, 91:4, 93:20
returned [3] - 3:17, 6:23, 7:3
returning [1] - 12:2returns [1] - 25:5Revenue [12] - 65:28,
66:6, 66:12, 68:5, 70:30, 71:26, 74:4, 79:15, 79:24, 80:25, 83:9, 83:23
revenue [1] - 80:16Reverend [2] - 32:8,
32:25reversed [2] - 51:2, 51:22reverted [2] - 50:17,
50:27reverting [1] - 50:19revolver [2] - 10:22,
10:23revolvers [1] - 7:28ribbon [2] - 46:5, 46:12Ring [3] - 31:29, 34:5,
36:19ringing [1] - 78:17rise [1] - 1:10risk [2] - 81:11, 83:26riskier [1] - 83:24Road [4] - 32:1, 63:5,
81:15, 82:25road [8] - 32:3, 39:11,
62:24, 63:8, 67:15, 81:25, 82:18
roads [5] - 34:22, 35:3, 35:4, 35:5, 35:7
Robinson [32] - 2:10, 3:1, 3:11, 3:15, 3:21, 4:6, 4:22, 4:25, 5:19, 6:2, 6:7, 6:11, 7:2, 7:8, 7:16, 13:20, 31:10, 31:20, 31:25, 32:7, 32:24, 33:1, 33:7, 33:13, 33:24, 33:28, 35:12, 35:21, 57:22, 58:14, 58:23, 59:23
Robinson's [3] - 34:4, 34:11, 35:14
role [7] - 35:20, 55:7, 62:12, 63:2, 64:4, 64:7, 74:4
roles [1] - 68:20roll [2] - 20:19, 20:23room [1] - 26:29Room [2] - 27:1, 27:16Rosewood [1] - 29:2rounds [1] - 8:8route [3] - 81:18, 82:26,
92:17routinely [1] - 73:17RRF [1] - 73:15rubbish [1] - 56:15RUC [24] - 6:24, 20:28,
22:16, 23:15, 27:11, 41:12, 41:30, 42:12, 46:4, 46:6, 46:16, 73:6, 73:17, 73:20, 74:5, 74:6, 74:24, 77:11, 77:15, 81:24, 82:18, 91:13, 92:21, 93:17
Ruddy [2] - 77:23, 77:26rugby [1] - 36:7ruin [1] - 69:19rule [1] - 68:13rumour [3] - 70:14, 70:16,
70:21rumours [1] - 70:8run [4] - 15:22, 62:24,
86:27, 87:13running [1] - 39:10runs [2] - 11:6, 14:11
Ssafety [1] - 83:22salted [1] - 35:4sanded [1] - 35:4sanding [1] - 35:2sat [1] - 20:10save [1] - 19:9saw [7] - 11:27, 45:6,
46:16, 52:24, 54:7, 59:11, 64:25
say-so [1] - 63:24scam [1] - 78:2scams [1] - 78:5scant [1] - 45:18scene [15] - 16:8, 17:17,
23:17, 27:13, 27:14, 27:15, 27:21, 27:23, 28:1, 28:3, 28:10, 28:15, 28:22, 29:2,
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29:16scheduled [1] - 71:3scheme [1] - 39:4score [1] - 60:4scraped [1] - 78:18screen [7] - 3:1, 13:7,
15:21, 24:12, 30:16, 37:1, 90:7
SDU [1] - 7:17search [2] - 63:26, 77:27searched [3] - 20:5,
66:12, 66:13searches [1] - 64:13second [14] - 1:7, 2:11,
7:29, 9:23, 11:15, 12:26, 14:19, 15:8, 15:12, 15:21, 16:6, 21:15, 34:20, 35:16
Secretary [6] - 72:12, 72:15, 72:25, 72:29, 74:20, 74:26
secrets [1] - 21:13Security [1] - 24:2security [13] - 6:10,
19:24, 57:26, 64:7, 64:18, 68:11, 72:14, 83:25, 83:28, 85:7, 85:8, 93:13, 93:16
see [21] - 8:18, 9:21, 10:26, 13:9, 14:18, 15:25, 16:2, 16:23, 17:1, 17:2, 18:9, 21:9, 45:3, 48:20, 57:17, 59:3, 59:13, 60:5, 64:21, 65:20, 85:12
seem [3] - 36:27, 45:26, 46:29
seized [1] - 67:27seizure [4] - 63:26, 67:5,
67:9, 75:4seizures [1] - 80:25send [1] - 28:18sending [1] - 57:1senior [7] - 22:3, 28:21,
29:15, 38:25, 38:27, 51:20, 62:7
sense [1] - 74:24sensitive [3] - 64:8, 65:5,
68:25sent [10] - 16:19, 20:30,
21:1, 21:11, 27:30, 45:14, 56:28, 56:29, 92:4
separate [2] - 68:21, 90:3separately [1] - 68:20sequence [1] - 3:8sergeant [6] - 13:29,
13:30, 14:1, 58:3, 58:11Sergeant [21] - 8:18, 9:7,
10:29, 11:1, 11:17, 12:27, 15:10, 16:12, 16:15, 19:16, 35:11, 43:23, 44:7, 55:28, 56:4, 58:13, 58:26, 59:6, 59:11, 79:14, 79:21
serious [4] - 6:22, 37:27, 49:20, 49:21
seriously [1] - 52:11Service [2] - 3:8, 3:20service [4] - 59:7, 82:6,
82:8, 88:23services [2] - 4:5, 82:22serving [2] - 42:28, 79:24set [6] - 3:3, 3:4, 3:6,
3:16, 27:17, 71:5sets [1] - 24:7setting [1] - 29:12settling [1] - 90:27seven [2] - 67:27, 93:4several [1] - 73:5severe [1] - 34:28severely [1] - 44:29share [1] - 57:5shared [5] - 38:9, 38:10,
73:17, 83:6, 88:27sharing [2] - 83:2, 83:4shed [2] - 66:4, 66:11sheds [3] - 63:1, 63:4,
66:4shift [1] - 16:13shocked [1] - 51:27shook [1] - 6:28shops [1] - 50:8short [2] - 2:5, 30:17shorter [2] - 21:4, 53:26shot [4] - 40:6, 40:9,
40:12, 45:7show [3] - 56:22, 57:13,
78:24shows [1] - 56:24shut [1] - 73:6side [14] - 63:6, 63:7,
65:25, 65:26, 66:7, 66:8, 66:13, 76:21, 76:24, 79:30, 94:3
signalled [1] - 12:4signed [3] - 9:7, 10:30,
16:12significance [1] - 21:20significant [2] - 84:24,
85:6significantly [1] - 86:11similar [2] - 45:28, 54:23similarly [2] - 27:11, 75:9simple [2] - 50:3, 87:10simply [2] - 36:27, 56:1simultaneous [1] - 66:3sincerely [1] - 93:22Siochana [15] - 26:14,
50:10, 51:26, 52:5, 52:26, 58:21, 63:28, 64:4, 64:6, 64:27, 68:16, 70:1, 70:4, 70:9, 94:14
sit [1] - 54:2sitting [2] - 56:2, 61:12situation [4] - 22:17,
42:14, 51:19, 54:23six [4] - 26:24, 50:24,
67:27, 93:4slightly [1] - 2:17small [3] - 20:9, 61:15,
83:4smuggled [1] - 78:15
smuggler [1] - 86:27smuggler's [1] - 81:18smugglers [6] - 80:16,
80:19, 80:26, 82:12, 82:17, 84:20
smuggling [68] - 22:6, 39:7, 39:29, 62:16, 62:17, 63:3, 64:22, 65:7, 65:8, 65:9, 65:11, 65:17, 66:22, 66:26, 67:2, 70:10, 70:14, 70:17, 70:18, 71:23, 72:17, 73:12, 74:11, 74:14, 75:3, 75:10, 76:18, 77:6, 78:1, 79:30, 80:2, 80:4, 80:7, 80:9, 80:13, 80:22, 81:22, 82:13, 82:17, 82:27, 83:23, 83:26, 83:27, 84:1, 84:2, 84:5, 84:7, 84:19, 84:25, 85:10, 85:15, 85:18, 85:28, 85:29, 86:3, 86:8, 86:15, 86:16, 87:15, 87:19, 87:21, 88:16, 88:17, 88:19
snow [17] - 4:18, 11:24, 11:25, 11:29, 32:14, 33:4, 33:20, 33:22, 34:12, 34:14, 34:19, 34:20, 34:21, 34:29, 35:1, 35:14, 35:18
snowfalls [1] - 33:14snowstorm [3] - 31:24,
32:13, 32:19socialise [3] - 52:7, 52:9,
52:22socialised [1] - 52:16sometime [5] - 14:27,
14:30, 59:18, 76:22, 93:14
somewhat [1] - 93:16son [3] - 90:12, 90:13,
92:30soon [3] - 14:25, 24:29,
25:12sorry [15] - 3:4, 6:4,
10:16, 10:18, 13:19, 21:3, 23:22, 24:11, 40:7, 41:17, 41:26, 43:3, 53:7, 55:6, 73:30
Sorry [1] - 55:6sort [4] - 7:27, 56:30,
60:11, 64:17source [3] - 18:20, 19:1,
45:16sources [7] - 19:24,
23:10, 23:14, 23:21, 23:22, 88:24, 88:26
South [2] - 72:17, 84:23south [31] - 21:25, 22:3,
23:16, 37:4, 38:24, 41:7, 62:22, 63:20, 64:1, 66:22, 67:14, 67:16, 68:9, 73:27, 75:8, 80:6, 80:7, 80:9, 80:15, 80:25, 81:18, 82:9, 83:9, 83:10,
83:18, 85:1, 86:15, 86:16, 94:15
southern [8] - 63:7, 65:25, 66:8, 66:13, 76:7, 76:21, 78:16, 78:17
span [1] - 18:22Special [13] - 3:18, 3:21,
4:8, 5:1, 6:2, 7:3, 7:19, 7:24, 10:24, 12:2, 12:15, 13:21, 31:20
specifically [1] - 72:29specifics [1] - 80:29speculate [2] - 68:10,
71:24speculating [1] - 52:18speculation [3] - 38:21,
38:22, 72:27spend [1] - 19:8Spl [1] - 10:20SPM [2] - 72:17, 73:10spot [1] - 31:25Spratt [10] - 90:2, 90:11,
90:13, 92:2, 92:3, 92:4, 92:7, 93:23, 93:26
Spratt's [1] - 94:5spread [2] - 9:25spring [1] - 70:28stage [5] - 6:22, 18:18,
28:9, 28:15, 57:28stand [3] - 25:24, 42:4,
48:6standard [2] - 16:18, 27:7start [4] - 14:22, 31:9,
37:3, 55:14starting [2] - 4:1, 13:18State [8] - 67:8, 72:12,
72:16, 72:25, 72:29, 74:20, 74:26, 80:15
state [5] - 5:5, 36:27, 40:17, 64:18, 77:9
statement [16] - 2:11, 2:15, 2:16, 35:23, 38:30, 55:20, 63:1, 64:16, 65:10, 69:10, 75:23, 77:9, 77:22, 77:30, 93:15
states [1] - 10:2States [2] - 90:21, 92:17stating [3] - 41:8, 47:11,
50:16station [9] - 8:19, 23:19,
44:18, 45:10, 48:17, 49:19, 59:11, 78:29, 79:1
Station [10] - 5:28, 17:1, 17:5, 17:15, 26:22, 27:1, 48:1, 48:29, 49:2, 49:8
stations [1] - 82:15status [1] - 9:15stayed [3] - 85:22, 85:24,
85:26staying [1] - 6:21stepping [1] - 74:27steps [2] - 19:25, 27:8still [15] - 35:9, 46:23,
46:24, 49:3, 64:27,
79:16, 79:17, 79:18, 79:23, 79:26, 79:28, 79:30, 85:4, 85:5
stood [2] - 44:29, 44:30stop [2] - 15:8, 16:6stopped [1] - 12:5store [1] - 62:26Stormont [1] - 72:13story [2] - 39:6, 42:9straddled [1] - 63:2straddling [1] - 66:11straight [2] - 61:8, 62:24straightforward [2] -
88:3, 88:4Street [2] - 3:22, 31:30stress [1] - 13:8strikes [1] - 74:3stuck [10] - 4:17, 11:24,
31:23, 32:19, 34:5, 34:12, 34:14, 35:10, 35:14, 36:19
subdistrict [1] - 17:7subject [4] - 2:14, 61:9,
67:6, 89:2submachine [3] - 7:28,
10:3, 10:5submitted [1] - 45:22subsequent [5] - 30:17,
72:14, 75:5, 75:6, 92:10subsequently [2] - 17:16,
45:7subsidies [2] - 62:28,
64:22subsidy [2] - 62:21, 63:15substance [3] - 29:26,
45:20, 45:21substantial [1] - 22:24substantiate [1] - 48:3subtlety [1] - 73:25subversive [1] - 70:15success [1] - 73:8such-and-such [1] - 8:15suffer [1] - 81:2suffering [1] - 46:30suggest [8] - 44:11,
45:30, 49:29, 51:24, 61:8, 72:4, 86:1, 86:14
suggested [6] - 34:14, 47:30, 52:29, 53:2, 53:8, 53:9
suggesting [5] - 30:4, 32:30, 43:27, 45:26, 57:11
suggestion [1] - 48:4suitability [1] - 51:13suitable [1] - 52:6sum [1] - 3:16summary [1] - 73:21summation [1] - 57:14summers [1] - 32:14sums [4] - 60:13, 80:14,
80:15, 80:18Sunday [1] - 73:8super [1] - 58:22Superintendent [22] -
18:11, 24:3, 24:10, 27:20, 28:2, 28:7, 28:10, 28:20, 28:26,
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29:3, 29:4, 29:6, 30:2, 30:7, 41:18, 41:19, 50:17, 51:17, 76:15
superintendent [3] - 9:11, 49:19, 50:26
Superintendent's [2] - 26:26, 26:28
superior [1] - 18:1supervision [1] - 7:4supplement [1] - 73:9suppose [9] - 10:20,
52:19, 61:5, 66:20, 75:28, 78:4, 83:28, 85:12, 85:17
surprise [1] - 55:5surprised [1] - 11:27surrounding [1] - 75:11surveillance [9] - 63:23,
67:25, 68:29, 68:30, 69:2, 69:3, 69:5, 69:7, 81:23
Surveillance [1] - 69:1survey [5] - 72:21, 72:22,
72:24, 73:13, 73:22surveys [1] - 73:13suspect [1] - 63:24suspects [1] - 42:12SWORN [2] - 2:1, 62:1Sylvia [4] - 91:21, 91:23,
92:24, 93:11synonymous [1] - 65:10system [1] - 87:13
Ttag [1] - 57:13tag-line [1] - 57:13tankards [1] - 67:27tanker [1] - 67:5tankers [4] - 72:1, 72:19,
72:26, 74:30tape [2] - 46:28, 47:3target [1] - 60:5tasked [1] - 62:29tattle [3] - 46:1, 56:12,
56:14tax [7] - 86:21, 86:24,
86:25, 87:5, 87:7, 87:13, 87:22
tea [1] - 12:8team [10] - 16:2, 16:7,
17:21, 17:22, 17:27, 17:30, 18:9, 19:14, 29:13, 67:24
telephone [1] - 71:6telephoned [2] - 22:10,
40:22telex [3] - 27:30, 28:4,
28:13ten [2] - 16:13, 54:3tension [1] - 6:15tenure [2] - 93:13, 93:18term [1] - 82:6terms [8] - 19:13, 24:6,
46:14, 48:30, 61:16, 63:25, 69:29, 76:10
terrorism [5] - 64:26, 65:6, 65:9, 74:12, 85:21
Terry [1] - 90:1test [2] - 11:3, 11:8tested [2] - 8:24, 10:5testing [1] - 9:20tests [1] - 13:18thanked [1] - 6:27that'd [1] - 57:15that.. [1] - 50:9THE [11] - 1:1, 26:10,
31:5, 54:29, 60:27, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8, 89:25, 95:1
themselves [3] - 57:2, 84:5, 86:21
THEN [2] - 60:27, 89:25there" [1] - 6:21therefore [2] - 46:13,
82:22thinks [1] - 53:23third [2] - 91:10, 92:30threat [11] - 14:29, 19:20,
19:26, 19:27, 22:14, 37:18, 41:10, 41:29, 85:7, 85:8, 85:10
threatened [6] - 22:3, 38:25, 44:22, 44:28, 44:29, 81:2
threats [2] - 39:22, 42:2three [10] - 12:16, 12:23,
14:11, 31:27, 34:12, 70:21, 70:23, 81:30, 90:4, 93:5
Thursday [1] - 34:26thwarted [1] - 73:5ticked [2] - 9:3, 9:6Tierney [9] - 18:5, 18:6,
18:11, 27:20, 28:2, 28:9, 28:20, 29:4
tightly [2] - 68:27, 69:9timed [1] - 90:21tittle [3] - 46:1, 56:12,
56:14tittle-tattle [3] - 46:1,
56:12, 56:14Toby [1] - 47:7today [13] - 1:6, 2:28,
14:7, 14:16, 15:13, 25:2, 30:18, 60:29, 64:20, 70:7, 76:14, 84:30, 90:3
today's [2] - 21:1, 94:23Tom [2] - 18:3, 51:30tone [1] - 15:2took [8] - 27:21, 29:6,
45:18, 49:12, 66:16, 67:24, 72:13, 78:9
tooth [1] - 86:2top [3] - 20:19, 20:20,
91:6topic [2] - 14:4, 14:17topics [1] - 2:8towards [2] - 44:12, 50:2Tower [1] - 72:21tower [1] - 73:13town [1] - 6:23traffic [3] - 7:19, 35:6,
81:24trail [1] - 78:22
trainee [1] - 50:13training [3] - 8:29, 59:20,
60:3transcript [2] - 31:10,
51:8transferred [2] - 91:27,
92:25travel [3] - 12:26, 89:30,
93:10travelled [10] - 14:2, 36:2,
90:12, 90:16, 91:7, 91:27, 92:25, 92:28, 93:17, 94:15
travelling [1] - 12:25trial [1] - 7:3TRIBUNAL [2] - 1:1, 95:1Tribunal [22] - 3:8, 5:14,
5:16, 11:16, 13:8, 14:17, 16:5, 30:19, 30:21, 70:6, 80:24, 92:2, 92:6, 92:10, 92:12, 92:13, 93:12, 93:15, 93:20, 93:25, 93:27, 94:17
tried [2] - 64:17, 85:17trip [2] - 7:24, 90:10trouble [3] - 6:29, 6:30,
83:30Troubles [1] - 93:2troubles [2] - 48:26, 59:9truck [1] - 63:6true [3] - 11:22, 28:28,
51:29trust [1] - 69:11truth [3] - 46:17, 47:2,
58:29try [1] - 2:23trying [4] - 19:9, 46:1,
48:22, 67:17Tuesday [1] - 71:4turn [3] - 27:23, 59:18,
85:17turned [2] - 27:20, 60:4turning [2] - 24:8, 24:9twelve [2] - 1:8, 1:10twenty [3] - 20:24, 61:6,
61:7twenty-five [1] - 20:24two [25] - 1:6, 2:8, 2:27,
7:9, 11:19, 14:11, 21:1, 42:11, 49:20, 50:10, 50:24, 53:23, 53:24, 63:13, 74:14, 75:13, 78:5, 78:20, 79:20, 83:15, 86:20, 87:3, 90:19, 93:17, 94:14
two-and-a-bit [1] - 14:11type [4] - 20:16, 44:20,
54:3, 72:6typed [3] - 43:3, 54:5,
54:7types [2] - 86:3, 88:17typewriter [1] - 54:3tyre [1] - 12:9tyres [5] - 11:25, 11:28,
33:20, 34:21, 35:18
UUK [2] - 78:16, 78:26ultimately [1] - 3:23unarmed [2] - 8:1, 65:2uncovered [1] - 23:3undated [3] - 15:9, 21:5,
36:24under [9] - 19:26, 19:27,
20:9, 37:17, 63:14, 63:16, 75:7, 83:8
undergo [1] - 8:6undergone [1] - 8:28undermine [2] - 46:1,
51:26understand.. [1] - 53:15understandably [1] -
85:26understood [1] - 20:12undertaking [1] - 35:28underwent [1] - 10:6unearthed [1] - 2:21unexpected [1] - 1:4unfair [2] - 17:24, 50:30unfortunately [3] - 2:21,
14:9, 14:16ungraded [2] - 21:5, 21:9uniform [1] - 50:19uniformed [1] - 50:18Union [3] - 6:17, 6:19,
6:21Unit [1] - 69:1unit [14] - 17:27, 21:25,
22:12, 22:14, 37:4, 41:1, 41:10, 41:28, 43:19, 66:25, 68:30, 69:2, 71:22, 82:1
United [2] - 90:21, 92:16unknown [1] - 2:20unlawfully [1] - 51:25unless [2] - 36:13, 93:29unlike [1] - 68:3unmarked [1] - 7:14unorthodox [1] - 91:23unsavoury [1] - 19:4unsuitable [3] - 50:25,
51:5, 51:11UNTIL [1] - 95:1up [34] - 2:14, 3:1, 5:2,
5:4, 9:21, 10:2, 13:6, 15:21, 21:1, 21:3, 27:20, 27:23, 29:12, 31:30, 36:30, 39:10, 42:4, 44:29, 48:14, 50:30, 57:1, 59:9, 59:18, 60:13, 66:8, 67:24, 71:5, 77:19, 79:26, 81:29, 82:28, 84:30, 90:6
urgency [1] - 19:7usual [2] - 91:13, 92:21Uzi [6] - 7:28, 8:24, 10:2,
10:5, 11:9, 11:10
VValentine [1] - 61:3VALENTINE [10] - 61:5,
61:14, 62:2, 62:4, 70:27, 79:6, 89:16, 89:20, 89:27, 94:23
valorem [1] - 79:2value [1] - 79:3valued [1] - 78:9varied [1] - 80:4various [1] - 78:10varying [1] - 13:18vehicle [1] - 72:20vehicles [1] - 49:16versa [1] - 68:6version [1] - 24:27vested [1] - 63:27vice [1] - 68:6view [4] - 19:24, 56:30,
82:25, 83:22views [2] - 53:28, 61:9violence [2] - 81:2virtually [2] - 2:22, 14:10visit [6] - 44:27, 45:1,
49:26, 52:21, 90:24, 92:18
visited [2] - 29:3, 52:9volume [1] - 89:9
Wwait [2] - 14:18, 51:15walking [1] - 50:8Walsh [1] - 92:9Walther [1] - 9:5warning [1] - 70:12WAS [8] - 2:1, 26:10,
31:5, 54:29, 62:1, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8
ways [5] - 42:5, 58:28, 78:20, 86:20, 87:3
weapon [6] - 8:1, 8:8, 8:9, 8:15, 10:12, 13:16
weapons [1] - 9:30wear [2] - 91:24, 91:26weather [1] - 34:27website [2] - 3:4, 3:7wedding [1] - 91:24Wednesday [1] - 34:26week [11] - 17:28, 25:19,
25:20, 25:21, 25:24, 25:26, 25:30, 33:14, 34:29, 81:30, 94:25
weekend [1] - 35:2weeks [2] - 93:4, 93:6weight [3] - 56:11, 70:12,
70:13well-known [3] - 19:21,
44:23, 65:11well.. [2] - 58:9, 59:2whatnot [3] - 19:4, 48:27,
49:17whatsoever [1] - 74:16wheelbarrows [1] - 39:12whereas [1] - 80:8whereby [3] - 39:7, 56:22,
83:8whilst [1] - 52:25whispers [1] - 70:2whole [5] - 34:29, 39:4,
49:27, 80:22
Smithwick Tribunal - 22 July 2012 - Day 106
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd.
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widely [1] - 73:19wife [4] - 26:21, 31:25,
91:19, 92:15Willie [1] - 50:11willing [1] - 49:28wise [1] - 39:15wish [6] - 25:15, 25:17,
54:18, 79:9, 92:5, 92:14WITHDREW [2] - 60:27,
89:25withheld [1] - 46:26WITNESS [8] - 26:10,
31:5, 54:29, 60:27, 79:11, 84:14, 88:8, 89:25
Witness [6] - 70:29, 70:30, 71:9, 72:8, 74:19, 74:25
witness [7] - 50:2, 60:29, 61:3, 61:6, 61:15, 94:4
witnesses [2] - 1:6, 84:3woman [1] - 16:30won [1] - 51:21wonder [4] - 62:11,
65:21, 75:26, 78:1wondering [1] - 25:4word [2] - 18:13, 66:2world [2] - 68:13, 77:18worst [1] - 15:1write [1] - 50:22writing [4] - 29:23, 40:16,
40:17, 43:21written [8] - 29:1, 40:11,
40:14, 44:7, 45:25, 72:11, 78:14
wrote [5] - 24:19, 43:3, 45:19, 48:6, 53:29
Yyard [2] - 67:24, 67:28yeah.. [1] - 20:7year [1] - 25:20years [6] - 23:18, 48:27,
73:5, 90:20, 93:15yesterday [4] - 35:24,
72:17, 73:11, 92:6yield [1] - 44:30young [1] - 50:23yourself [7] - 19:14,
19:15, 50:16, 64:29, 75:16, 85:13, 87:24
yourselves [2] - 64:17, 85:14
££10,000 [1] - 86:27