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A P P E A R A N C E S
The Sole Member: His Honour Judge Peter Smithwick
For the Tribunal: Mrs. Mary Laverty, SCMr. Justin Dillon, SCMr. Dara Hayes, BLMr. Fintan Valentine, BL
Instructed by: Jane McKevitt
Solicitor
For the Commissioner of An Garda Siochana: Mr. Diarmuid McGuinness, SC
Mr. Michael Durack, SCMr. Gareth Baker, BL
Instructed by: Mary CumminsCSSO
For Owen Corrigan: Mr. Jim O'Callaghan, SCMr. Darren Lehane, BL
Instructed by: Fintan Lawlor Lawlor Partners Solicitors
For Leo Colton: Mr. Paul Callan, SCMr. Eamon Coffey, BL
Instructed by: Dermot Lavery Solicitors
For Finbarr Hickey: Fionnuala O'Sullivan, BL
Instructed by: James MacGuill & Co.
For the Attorney General: Ms. Nuala Butler, SCMr. Douglas Clarke, SC
Instructed by: CSSO
For Freddie Scappaticci: Eavanna Fitzgerald, BLPauline O'Hare
Instructed by: Michael FlaniganSolicitor
For Kevin Fulton: Mr. Neil Rafferty, QC
Instructed by: John McAtamneySolicitor
For Breen Family: Mr. John McBurney
For Buchanan Family/Heather Currie: Ernie Waterworth
McCartan Turkington BreenSolicitors
For the PSNI: Mark Robinson, BL
NOTICE: A WORD INDEX IS PROVIDED AT THE BACK OF THIS TRANSCRIPT. THIS IS A USEFUL INDEXING SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO QUICKLY SEE THE WORDS USED IN THE TRANSCRIPT, WHERE THEY OCCUR AND HOW OFTEN.
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OWEN CORRIGAN
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. ROBINSON 1 15
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THE TRIBUNAL RESUMED ON THE 16TH OF JULY, 2012, AS FOLLOWS:
MR. DILLON: Chairman, we are continuing today with the
evidence of Mr. Corrigan, and I believe it's
Mr. Robinson --
CHAIRMAN: I think Mr. Robinson --
MR. DILLON: -- to cross-examine.
CHAIRMAN: You are ready to cross-examine?
MR. ROBINSON: I am indeed, sir.
OWEN CORRIGAN WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. ROBINSON
AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Corrigan, my name is Mark Robinson. I 1
appear on behalf of the PSNI. I have a number of questions
for you, and I hope to get through them this morning.
Now, just to start by way of background. You were
stationed in Dundalk, I believe, from June 1975, or you
became the lead detective from June 1975, is that correct?
A. That's correct, Mr. Chairman.
Q. And your position continued until 1989, when you went off 2
on sick leave, is that correct?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And during those years, you were the lead detective at all 3
times, is that correct?
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A. Yes.
Q. And you led a team of nine detective garda? 4
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And you have given evidence that, during those years, you 5
were working 24/7 in the fight against subversives?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, if we turn to your day-to-day activities. Again, 6
without disclosing methodology, but one can assume that you
would spend your time meeting sources, is that correct?
A. Absolutely, yes.
Q. And was it a case that you would go to them or would they 7
come to you, or was it a mixture of both?
A. A mixture of both.
Q. And would it predominantly be the case that you would go 8
and speak to your sources?
A. Yes.
Q. And it would be correct to suggest, Mr. Corrigan, that the 9
sources, over the years, would have evolved and moved up
the ladder in relation to the organisations they were in?
A. They would, yes.
Q. So, over those 13 years, you gleaned better intelligence as 10
time went on, is that correct?
A. Sometimes. Not necessarily all the time, like.
Intelligence was varied, you know, but as Mr. Brunton here,
who is personally -- or presently dealing with the C77s,
all intelligence is valued by the authorities, you know,
because -- you'd want to understand intelligence,
Mr. Chairman, to know that the most insignificant part of a
report can be, in time, become an equally important part in
view of what comes in from another country, from some other
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source or whatever, you know.
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
A. So there is no item of correspondence by way of C77s that
can be discounted readily.
Q. MR. ROBINSON: That's a very important point, Mr. Corrigan, 11
and we will return to that. Now, other witnesses have
given evidence to this Tribunal that one way to glean
intelligence would be in the immediate aftermath of an
atrocity, and you would go out and tap your sources, so to
speak, in order to glean the best information, given the
outrage felt; you would agree with that?
A. Yes.
Q. And just going back to your sources, you have given 12
evidence on a number of occasions that you went out to
visit very dangerous people?
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Q. And this was a recurring event, that you went out to meet 13
very dangerous people?
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Q. And one interpretation of that is that they were members of 14
subversive organisations?
A. That's right, yeah. Because there is an element of risk,
Mr. Robinson, any time you go out in an isolated area. If
you had no backup, protection, or whatnot, you were leaving
yourself out on a limb and risking your life by meeting
those people. But unfortunately, I was so intent on
gathering as much intelligence, important intelligence,
that's what I spent my whole career, intelligence, and the
intelligence and the protection of people, members of the
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RUC and judiciary coming from Northern Ireland were the two
most important tasks in my vocabulary. I never allowed a
member of the RUC to come into this jurisdiction except I
ensured that they had -- and if they were coming
unofficially, I would advise them on safety precautions,
and I think I have said that.
Q. Yes, you have talked about your broad CV in relation to 15
your functions and your roles, isn't that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And part of your CV would have included knowledge of all 16
Garda operations that were ongoing at that time in that
area?
A. I wouldn't say -- not all, but --
Q. The vast majority of operations? 17
A. Yes, yes.
Q. And they would range from, for example, planned searches? 18
A. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't have known all the planned searches
because they would have been undertaken by the uniform
section in conjunction with, we'll say, if -- are you
talking about cross-border planned searches?
Q. No, searches within this jurisdiction? 19
A. Oh, no, no, searches of, we'll say, houses of subversives,
and that, I would be aware of all of those. No, I thought
you meant cross-border.
Q. No, just the ones in this jurisdiction? 20
A. No, I would be aware of all of those.
Q. And that CV would also include knowledge of security 21
matters, for example the transfer of monies North to South?
A. Yes.
Q. Escorts? 22
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A. Yes, not necessarily all the time.
Q. But you were the head detective? 23
A. Yeah, but we weren't always notified of all escorts.
Q. Would I be correct in suggesting the vast majority of 24
escorts you were aware of?
A. Some I was and some I wasn't. They didn't always --
depending on their origin, if they were coming from Dublin,
the SDU, the Special Detective Unit, would escort them, you
know. Like, we didn't take over escorts of money, as such,
in the same way as we took over escorts of VIP persons.
Q. Moving on to the escort of VIP persons, that was something 25
that you were fully aware of?
A. Oh, very much so, yeah.
Q. And just to quote you from your own evidence, Mr. Corrigan, 26
Day 102, line 40, page 14: "I was the man who had the
collective expertise of the whole border area." That is
correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And furthermore, the "jewel in the crown" quote has been 27
used quite often, Mr. Corrigan, but the context of that
quotation, if I can read that to you. This was during an
exchange regarding speaking with Superintendent Nolan, and
you replied that "If I was in his position" -- namely
Nolan -- "I'd be -- the first man that I would go to would
be me. Here is the guy with all the answers, well-known
throughout, undisputed, and it is up to me to motivate him
to motivate his subordinates correspondingly."
Do you recall saying that?
A. I don't, no.
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without him. He is indispensable. That is my way of
working if I were John Nolan. But John Nolan, then again,
had no experience. It was in his interest to come to me
and avail of my numerous qualities."
At Day 102, page 66, line 9: "You took a great personal
interest in building up in your own mind, like it was
perceived now that I had the most extensive mental totality
of the IRA personnel, that is accepted by all and sundry."
Do you accept saying that?
A. I don't, no.
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A. No.
Q. You don't accept you said that? 30
A. I didn't say I didn't accept it. I can't recall it. Like,
I am here a number of days, my health issues have been a
major factor, and I can't recall exactly, and I'm not going
to say I remember saying something if I didn't remember. I
am sorry, Mr. Robinson, that I can't be of more help to
you.
Q. Does it ring true that that's something you would say, 31
Mr. Corrigan?
A. Oh, there is a different thing altogether now. You are
speculating now.
Q. No, I am asking you to confirm your own evidence, 32
Mr. Corrigan.
A. I have already said I don't remember. I have given a lot
of evidence here.
CHAIRMAN: Well, you don't remember saying it, but is it
true?
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A. I don't know. I can't comment on it.
Q. MR. ROBINSON: You can't comment on your own view of your 33
own position?
A. Just repeat it to me 'til I try to analyse it.
Q. Day 102, page 66, line 9. "You took a great personal 34
interest in building up in my own mind, like it was
perceived now that I had the most extensive mental totality
of the IRA personnel, that is accepted by all and sundry."
That is what you said. It's on the record.
A. That would be a true assessment of the situation as I
thought it.
Q. How was it so difficult to agree with me when I read it out 35
the first time --
CHAIRMAN: Well, anyway, for what it's worth, he said he
doesn't remember saying it, but he is standing over it now.
A. Yes.
Q. MR. ROBINSON: And position-wise, Mr. Corrigan, in Dundalk, 36
in that location there were a number of 'on the runs',
isn't that correct?
A. Numerous.
Q. Numerous? 37
A. Yeah.
Q. And it was close to the border, so subversives could make a 38
quick escape from the North?
A. They were going over and back on an ongoing basis, it was
traffic each way. And even when they were travelling
further than Dundalk, be it -- there was a campaign ongoing
in the UK and the Continent, and they were all very
important members of the organisations and, invariably,
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they would have stopped off in Dundalk for various reasons
now, that I can't -- I'd only be speculating if I answered
you, but any one of them with any consequence within the
organisation stopped off and stayed a day or two or three
before they went on these operations in Europe and the UK,
and similarly when they returned from those operations.
Now, it was a full-time job monitoring them, because they
were moving to different houses in Dundalk, and my team
were out there full-time, very, very taxing duty with the
small team we had and trying to keep a handle on all the
movements. Like, we had four or five hundred people moving
at that time. I'm talking about the seventies and the very
early eighties.
Q. You had so many in Dundalk, Mr. Corrigan, that you could 39
effectively trip over them?
A. You could, exactly.
Q. So why were they all in Dundalk? Why did they swarm to 40
Dundalk?
A. I don't know. I can't answer that now. Dundalk was always
a haven for them at all times, you know. There is a huge
northern population settled in Dundalk, several generations
of people. If you took a consensus of the people in
Dundalk, you could trace their roots back to Northern
Ireland, quite a lot of them, and it was a natural home for
a lot of them.
Q. Were you undermanned, Mr. Corrigan? 41
A. Well, I wouldn't say we were undermanned. You see,
undermanned is a very -- it would be the easiest thing to
say, but, I mean, the type -- the quality of the men that I
had working with me, I couldn't have asked for anything
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more, and they delivered big time for a unit that we had,
we had extraordinary results, and I'm not -- I don't
intend, by any means, to blow my own trumpet. The work I
was -- I was only as good as they were, and I'd like to
think that I gave them any encouragement I could to
increase their efficiency at all levels. And towards the
end, we were an extremely efficient unit and had
extraordinary results, and that's acknowledged by the
Commissioner at all levels that have come here, that we had
an extraordinary success for the number of personnel that
we had. Numbers in intelligence, and that type of thing,
when we got the increase in numbers, that doesn't increase
the efficiency. You may have quality in numbers but you
don't have the quality in efficiencies. And at that stage,
then, in the eighties, the subversive activity had died to
a trickle, it was nothing worth talking about; like, I'm
talking about all of the seventies --
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a trickle?
A. It tapered off, yeah, it tapered off compared to the
seventies.
Q. So we had the bomb that killed the Gibsons, we had the 43
Hannas killed, we had the bomb at Killeen, we had the
Kilnasaggart Bridge attacks, we had the Breen and Buchanan
murders, and you say that things dropped off?
A. Yeah, well dropped off compared to the number that they
were in the seventies. The seventies was an horrific
experience altogether, like.
Q. I'll give you an example of what dropped off, Mr. Corrigan. 44
Looking over your C77s, can you recall how many you put in
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in 1986?
A. Oh, I couldn't, no. How would I recall that now?
Q. Three. 45
A. Yeah...
Q. Three C77s. One every for months. 46
A. What about --
Q. And you were working 24/7 gathering intelligence. Nothing 47
was too small?
A. Yes, and what other --
Q. Three C77s. Mr. Corrigan, that's a disgrace? 48
A. Is it?
Q. Yes. 49
A. What other years now? Are you cherry-picking, or what?
Q. Pick the year -- let's pick the year that Breen and 50
Buchanan got murdered.
A. How many were there?
Q. Eleven. 51
A. Yeah...
Q. Eleven. One per month, because you went off early at the 52
end of the year, sick. Do you believe that reflects a
high-performance intelligence-gatherer?
A. I wasn't the only one that was gathering intelligence, you
know.
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intelligence-gatherer?
A. Well, I would accept that it's normal. Like, eleven is
quite a sizable number, it's one every month.
Q. One every month. You are working 24/7. Were you still 54
working 24/7 in 1989?
A. Yes.
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Q. And you produced one per month? 55
A. Yes.
Q. That's 2.6 percent of your total output? 56
A. Yes.
Q. In a year that saw the murders of Breen and Buchanan, to 57
say the least; numerous bombs in Kilnasaggart Bridge; and
the murder of John McAnulty?
A. Yes...
Q. Eleven. I put it to you that that's a disgrace 58
Mr. Corrigan.
A. I don't accept that.
Q. Now, going back to your position in Dundalk, you had a line 59
to the Commissioner, isn't that correct, through his
Assistant Commissioners?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And you had an intimate knowledge of An Garda Siochana 60
operations in that area?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. And no one else had the skills and experience in the 61
intelligence field?
A. I wouldn't say that.
Q. Well, you were the jewel in the crown, so I'm drawing upon 62
what you have already said. Was there somebody in Dundalk
that was better placed in the intelligence field in
relation to skills or experience?
A. I'm sure there were many others.
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A. I am sure there were, yeah.
Q. Now, let's move on to PIRA, your alleged foe during all of 64
this.
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A. Yes.
Q. Day 108, page 45, you said that "They were a very 65
articulate and professional unit and they kept abreast of
everything and they were working 24/7, and people don't
realise how active they are and how up to date they are
with their intelligence and there is very little that goes
on that they don't know, that they are not abreast of."
That's what you said; do you agree with that?
A. I do indeed, yes.
Q. And evidence has been given that they had details of Garda 66
golf handicaps, that's how much information they had?
A. I didn't hear that now.
Q. Now -- 67
A. That wasn't in Dundalk, as far as I know now. I think that
may have been given by Mr. O'Dea.
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intelligence as possible?
A. That's right, yes.
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A. That's correct, yes.
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contacts, you were a perfect source for PIRA, were you not?
A. I was not. I find that statement deeply offensive.
Q. Deeply offensive? 71
A. Yes. I spent all my life saving lives with the cooperation
of the RUC and saved RUC's men's lives.
Q. We'll come to that as well, Mr. Corrigan -- 72
A. No, let me finish.
Q. We'll come to that. 73
A. And I spent all my life, I put my life on the line. It
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would be easy for me to keep my head down and do nothing
and then you wouldn't have the opportunity of casting
aspersions on my character here.
Q. So really, the only thing between you being a source is 74
your dedication to your work, is that correct?
A. Yes, I spent -- I dedicated my whole service to the saving
of lives, and whether it was an RUC man or anyone else, it
didn't matter to me, and the RUC whose lives I saved,
bravely came up and stated that here in evidence. Maybe
you don't recall it, but that's what they --
Q. I'll come to that, Mr. Corrigan. We'll come to that. So, 75
let's address your dedication to your job. After the
Anglo-Irish Agreement was signed, that brought sweeping
changes into Dundalk, isn't that correct?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And, for 13 years, you had been the Ayatollah of Dundalk, 76
isn't that correct?
A. That's your description.
Q. Well, it's not my description; it's Mr. McCann's 77
description?
A. Yes...
Q. Do you accept that? 78
A. I can't speak for Mr. McCann.
Q. Do you agree with him? 79
A. Oh, it's Mr. McCann's description. I wouldn't like to
comment, because if I commented, it would be thrown up in
my face by some of your colleagues for the rest of the
Tribunal.
Q. You are willing to label yourself as indispensable, you are 80
willing to label yourself as the person who was necessary
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in order to win --
A. I never used the word 'indispensable'.
Q. You did, Mr. Corrigan, and I am not going -- 81
A. Tell me where I used 'indispensable'.
Q. I read it out to you earlier, Mr. Corrigan. 82
A. I don't recall ever using 'indispensable'.
Q. Well, that's a matter for the Chairman, because it's in the 83
transcript.
A. Okay. We'll leave it at that.
Q. Now, how did the changes affect you in Dundalk? They 84
brought in new detectives, is that correct?
A. That's right, yeah.
Q. How many more? 85
A. It was increased from ten to forty.
Q. And you gave evidence that you were cast aside? 86
A. Yeah. I didn't figure in any -- the new regime's future
plans. It happens in all types of employment, you know.
Q. When did you first -- 87
A. Nobody is indispensable.
Q. When did you first notice these changes come into play? 88
A. Around mid-eighties.
Q. The Anglo-Irish Agreement was '85. It took some time for 89
the changes to take effect?
A. That's right.
Q. Was that into '86, possibly? 90
A. The British Government were working feverishly throughout
'86 and engaged on a major reorganisation of things on the
border, and they attempted to introduce a more
military-type operation to all things on the border. The
first thing that they attempted to do, they wished to
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connect the phone line with the Irish Army and the British
Army, which the Government wouldn't agree to. They wished
to provide finance to supply better-quality armoured cars
for the border. The Government took a decision they
wouldn't accept that, either. So, they agreed with the
personnel increase, and that meant the superintendent -- or
the increase in personnel from ten to forty and the
allocation of a superintendent to look after the border.
Q. Let's talk about the changes, then. The numbers increased 91
from ten up to forty?
A. Yeah.
Q. You were cast aside? 92
A. Well, not cast aside. I was one of four where I was --
Q. Well, your evidence was that you were cast aside? 93
A. Yeah, well...
Q. And you also felt you were surplus to requirements? 94
A. Yeah. Well, I wasn't consulted on anything, you know. The
Superintendent never spoke to me about any impending
investigation, so what other interpretation would you take
out of that?
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you still able to work overtime?
A. No, I didn't do any overtime from there on in. There was
no need for it. Sure things had tapered off quite
considerably.
Q. So not only did this event, these changes have an effect on 96
your role within Dundalk, it also hit you financially?
A. Oh, it would have, yes.
Q. And you did give evidence that Connolly and Nolan never 97
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A. That's right.
Q. -- during your time there? 98
A. That's right.
Q. And you actually said it was up to them to speak to you? 99
A. I would have thought so.
Q. You had no respect for the chain of command, did you? 100
A. Oh, I did of course.
Q. Well, why did you not speak to your superiors? 101
A. Sure it was their -- like, every other Superintendent,
Border Superintendent, I served with 12 of them, and every
one of them came down and came in to me and depended on me
greatly and at the expiry of their -- they stayed for 12,
14 months for their tour of duty on the border, and they
were deeply appreciative -- I brought them out, I showed
them all the important points. In actual fact, the most
important point of all is the actual border, in case that
they'd stray into the North. I showed them all the
suspects' houses and the places where the activists were
meeting, and that, and they kept in contact. They were in
the office in -- they came to see me three our four times
every week. And Mr. Connolly never came to see me or Mr.
Nolan never came to ask me anything, or to ask for my views
or expertise on anything.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, you have given evidence of the steps that you 102
took when you had new superiors over the years. Did you
assist the new regime in Dundalk by showing them where
subversives lived?
A. No, I didn't. Well, I mean --
Q. Did you assist them by helping to train the new detectives? 103
A. No, because there were a number of detective sergeants
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there nearly as long as I was, and Mr. Connolly chose to
use him.
Q. So you have this knowledge of the entire border area --104
A. Yes, well this --
Q. -- the totality of the IRA personnel, and you don't even 105
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A. Well, you know, systems change, Mr. --
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A. No, but sure --
Q. Did you assist in passing -- 107
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Q. MR. ROBINSON: Did you assist in passing your knowledge to 108
the new regime?
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: The witness should be allowed to answer
the question. It's a much more casual way of dealing with
it, and we'll get through a lot more work if he is allowed
to answer the question.
A. There were other members who were in Dundalk nearly as long
as me --
Q. MR. ROBINSON: I am not asking about other members, 109
Mr. Corrigan; I am asking about you. Did you assist the
new regime in relation to identifying where subversives
lived, or anything like that?
A. I answered any questions that I was asked.
Q. Were you asked any questions? 110
A. No. That's the point I'm coming to.
Q. Did you volunteer? 111
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A. No. The situation is, when a change in a regime comes,
there was another member who Mr. Connolly was dealing with
on a one-to-one basis, and that's part and parcel of
regimes in every -- I'm sure you have seen it before so
often, that a regime change, and some other person is
consulted on the relevant day-to-day workings, and there
was a man there who was there as long as I was and was the
same rank and had extensive -- and been all his years on
the border, and he was the man that Mr. Connolly chose to
use as his day-to-day adviser, and that's -- I accepted
that. As I said, this happens in all walks of life, not
alone in the Gardaí. You get a change of management and
there is a different emphasis on different personnel.
People think that they can do the thing better than the
previous administration, that's all a matter of opinion.
Q. Your sources, Mr. Corrigan, over the years, you gleaned the 112
best sources that you could, isn't that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. When the new regime came in, did you assist the new regime 113
transferring contacts or sources over to the new
detectives?
A. Oh, God, not at all. How would you do that? Sure your
source is the most important part of your whole --
Q. Could you raise it with your source that there is a new 114
regime?
A. No, you certainly wouldn't.
Q. And that this new detective would be a handler? 115
A. No, you don't do that at all. A source is very hard to
find and you must be covetous in your handling of him and
make sure you hold on to him.
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Q. I just want to be very, very clear, Mr. Corrigan, because 116
you had spent 13 years building up a body of sources?
A. Yes.
Q. And you failed to transfer any over to the new regime when 117
you opted out?
A. No, I retained them to the very end. I wouldn't give a
source to anyone. I'd be letting down the source, apart
from letting down myself.
Q. So you maintained the sources -- 118
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important because this is your evidence, do you understand
that? You had a certain duty and role in Dundalk, and this
is about your dedication to the job. Now, I want to be
very, very clear that your answer is that you never
transferred an agent -- or, sorry, a source over to other
detectives?
A. That's right.
Q. Even when you opted out? 120
A. Yes.
Q. And I also want it clear that you continued to hold on to 121
those sources until the end, is that correct?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. And you were producing the best intelligence from Dundalk, 122
is that correct, over the years?
A. Oh, I don't know now. The Commissioner Ainsworth, who was
in charge of intelligence, put down my intelligence as in
excess of 400 C77s, so, I mean, we have all kinds of
experts coming up here criticising the quality of them, but
the quantity is that they are -- I think it's 411 I
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submitted.
Q. What I'm suggesting, Mr. Corrigan, is this: you had access 123
to valuable information through your sources?
A. Yes.
Q. Yet, you didn't pass that on, did you? 124
A. No, I didn't, no. I wouldn't pass a source to anyone.
Q. And therefore, in not passing over your source, you impeded 125
the flow of information to An Garda Siochana?
A. Oh, well, it's up to every other person to go out and get
his --
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A. Yeah...
Q. You impeded the flow of intelligence to An Garda Siochana 127
by failing to pass on your sources?
A. No, sure I was leaving -- I was retiring from the force.
Why should I be passing on my information to anyone? It
was up to every --
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A. Yes...
Q. That's why. That's what you were doing this for. 129
A. I was.
Q. That's one of your -- the two elements of your service was 130
gathering intelligence and the protection of VIPs. So
let's look at the first element of that. You failed to do
that by refusing or not providing your sources to the new
regime?
A. I saved more lives than any member, can I tell you? Saved
more. I brought the bombing campaign in Belfast to an end
by going up to RUC station in Newry and talking to a man
who refused to speak to the RUC, myself and Terry Hynes.
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He was in custody for the RUC from Friday evening at five
o'clock, and we got a call Monday morning that there was a
man in custody who had been arrested with a load of
explosives, but he wouldn't tell the RUC where he got them.
Now, I had been stationed in Drogheda previously and I knew
that there was a very high-grade sympathiser who we
suspected of storing the stuff en route to -- Belfast would
have been bombed now on literally a weekly basis,
Mr. Chairman. And the RUC rang, exasperated that this
individual in from Friday evening until Monday morning and
he wouldn't tell them. So I got Mr. Hynes, who was a very
experienced operator, cross-border operator dealing with
the RUC, and the two of us headed up to Newry. We went
into the interview room in Newry and he asked us were we
British intelligence? So, at that stage, Mr. Hynes
produced a Garda ID card, and he said okay and he asked the
RUC member there to leave the room. So he left the room,
and we spoke to him for about an hour and I then put the
suggestion to him, "By the way, would you be interested in
coming down and showing us where this is?" And he thought
about it. "No," he said, "I'd be afraid." So we kept on
the conversation there for a couple of hours, and then I
put it to him again, and then he said, "Yeah, I will." So,
suddenly, I went back out, I got the RUC man who was in the
interview -- or he wasn't actually in the interview, he was
more or less making up the numbers in the room. So we got
into their car, he brought somebody else with him, a second
person, this individual got into the car, and myself and
Mr. Hynes, and we drove up. Now, we asked him -- we had
skeleton particulars. He said that as you go up the main
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Dublin-Belfast road, you pass Butlins holiday camp on your
left and then you turn right in off that. So I knew we
were -- where we were heading and I knew this was the
location of the farm. But it was a farm of 93 acres, an
extremely valuable piece of land, and he said -- he came up
and we turned. Now, before that we had a surveillance for
the previous 14 years, Mr. Chairman, on a man from Dundalk
who was acting as a lookout for them when they were moving
the stuff to Belfast, the explosives, and we were stopping
him maybe six times, seven times a day, and he would abuse
the guards and whatnot, an elderly man, but we knew that
from the surveillance we were carrying out on him he was
somewhere between Delvin Bridge, which is the boundary
bridge between Meath and Dublin, and Lurgangreen in
Dundalk, which is on the outskirts between Castlebellingham
and Dundalk, we knew the explosive dump had to be there.
So we got into the car with them, with -- the RUC man came
with us, and up, and we turned right, I knew where we were
going for, and he brought us in and showed us exactly,
because a farm of that size, there was no point in saying
-- taking photographs of it, or whatnot. A farm of that
size, you had to pinpoint exactly where the bunker was.
So, we pushed him a bit harder and we got him to go in and
show us what it was. So, I put him back into the car and
went in to the Superintendent, Mr. Giblin, who was here
giving evidence, and he got the men out and got the
necessary equipment, and the arms dump contained
three-and-a-half tonnes of explosive material. Now, that
dump had been used, from the explosion in Belfast in 1969
until we got him in 14 years, and when that -- it was the
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biggest dump ever found in the North, and on the day it was
found, the bombing of Belfast dropped off to a trickle. So
how many lives did that discovery find -- and the man who
owned it was a native of County Armagh, and he has since
passed away, unfortunately.
Q. What year was that, Mr. Corrigan? 131
A. It was the late -- I couldn't -- my counsel would have it
now.
Q. Can you give a decade? 132
A. Eighties, I would -- it was about the mid-eighties.
Q. Mid-eighties? 133
A. Yeah. But I know that, on discovery of the bomb factory,
Belfast became -- the bombing of Belfast practically came
to a halt, and up to that it was being sustained weekly.
Q. So that, just to be clear, there were no more bombs in 134
Belfast after this event?
A. I said it slowed up to a trickle.
Q. Now, you disengaged from this new regime, Mr. Corrigan? 135
A. Yes.
Q. And you mentioned there Mr. Giblin? 136
A. What?
Q. You mentioned a Mr. Giblin? 137
A. Giblin, yeah.
Q. He gave evidence to the Tribunal. 138
A. He did, yes.
Q. And he gave an example of your respect for the chain of 139
command?
A. Pardon?
Q. He gave an example of your respect for the chain of 140
command?
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A. Yes.
Q. And he gave evidence that you said that Prenty and Culhane 141
were f'ers?
A. Yes.
Q. Would that be an accurate account? 142
A. It would be, yeah.
Q. So let's just review this, then. You disengaged from the 143
process, you had no respect for your chain of command and
you failed to pass over your sources of vital information?
A. Oh, I had every respect for the chain of command until the
new regime took in. I said I served with --
Q. That's what I'm talking about, the new regime, 144
Mr. Corrigan?
A. I worked with 13 border superintendents --
Q. You have had heard this about four times. We are talking 145
about the new regime chain of command, Mr. Corrigan.
A. That's exactly what happened.
Q. You had utter contempt for the new regime, isn't that 146
correct?
A. Well, I was treated -- you see the way I was treated.
Q. You had utter contempt for the new regime, isn't that 147
correct?
A. I certainly wasn't an admirer of theirs.
Q. Well, you then described them as a vampire's den? 148
A. Yeah, well it wasn't a bad description.
Q. And let's look back to see who you would blame for all of 149
this. Why were there sweeping changes in Dundalk?
A. At the insistence of the RUC.
Q. Well, your answer, Day 101, page 50: "In 1985, Margaret 150
Thatcher, as British Prime Minister, and Garrett
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FitzGerald, as Taoiseach, signed the Anglo-Irish Agreement,
and, as a result of that, there were sweeping changes
formulated in relation to Dundalk. The RUC had an ongoing
complaint that the Garda in Dundalk were not doing enough
to combat terrorism and the IRA in general."
A. That was an ongoing complaint by the RUC, that there wasn't
enough --
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A. Oh, sure that was their opinion. Like, the RUC and the
British Army had 60,000 troops on the ground and they
couldn't quell the problem. They seemed to regard the
border as a one-sided identity. There was two sides to the
border. But the reality is, Mr. Robinson, they weren't
effective, they couldn't police the border. If they came
out to an operation on the border, they had to have the
Garda on one side and the army backing up the Garda and the
British Army backing up them. So effectively, they were
non-effective. During those times, they were
non-effective, they couldn't come out and operate.
Q. And just to take a step back, Mr. Corrigan. You said, on 152
Day 101, that the new regime with the new detectives, the
thing became a farce?
A. Because you can't train detectives. Like, you can have
numbers, quality --
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expertise?
A. Yes, absolutely.
Q. You said no intelligence, no nothing. 154
A. No, because there was very little happening. You don't
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had were very -- had to learn over six, seven, eight, ten
years.
Q. And I just want to be clear, you are aware of that 155
situation but didn't do anything to help?
A. Pardon?
Q. You were aware of that situation, i.e. that there were four 156
units running around?
A. Yeah.
Q. The thing was a farce, they had no intelligence, no 157
nothing. I just want to be clear that you did nothing to
assist that?
A. No.
Q. And when one actually looks at your reasonings for the 158
changes in Dundalk, the RUC were not happy with -- had an
ongoing complaint that the Garda in Dundalk were not doing
enough to combat terrorism. Is the truth not that the
complaint really was that your team, and you as the head of
that team, were ineffective?
A. Ineffective?
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A. I don't accept that at all.
Q. No, their complaint. If they were blaming the Garda in 160
Dundalk, you essentially were the Garda in Dundalk?
A. Who did they make that complaint to?
Q. This is your evidence, this is your evidence. You stated 161
that the RUC had an ongoing complaint that the Garda in
Dundalk were not doing enough to combat terrorism and the
IRA in general. The reality is that you represented the
Garda in Dundalk, you were the head man?
A. Yes, well, I mean --
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Q. So the changes were brought about because the RUC had a 162
problem with how you ran Dundalk?
A. That's not what the changes were about. The changes were
brought about because Margaret Thatcher tried to impose a
certain system on the border, and, as I explained to you,
she wanted to augment the traffic fleet of the Garda cars
and put in Land Rovers, or heavier duty models, and the
Government wouldn't side with her at all.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, you were in charge of the Garda in Dundalk. 163
Your evidence is that the RUC had an ongoing complaint
about the Garda in Dundalk. That was essentially you.
A. Yes.
Q. So not only did these changes hit you career-wise, but this 164
was your reputation, as well. These changes were an attack
on how you operated Dundalk?
A. No, they weren't an attack. They were an implementation of
the British Army's view of what should be done to solve the
problem. They thought that if we could put a blockade on
the border, that everything would be all right, but things
are not as simple as that. We were not in a military
situation. They were attempting to solve this border
problem by a military -- by military means. After all, the
RUC couldn't come up -- they couldn't come near the border,
they couldn't operate anything without the backing of the
British Army and they couldn't come -- the Gardaí had to go
out there any time they were doing anything and they had to
make provisional arrangements for, maybe, weeks if they
were coming up to -- like, that particular road that they
travelled, they never went on that road because it was so
dangerous and --
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Q. Mr. Corrigan, the reason that they couldn't come near the 165
border was because subversives attacked them and escaped
over the border to Dundalk, that's why, and Dundalk was
ineffective, that's why things had to be changed, and the
fact is, you were in charge of Dundalk?
A. I am not --
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A. I am not in charge of Dundalk.
Q. This complaint was against you, Mr. Corrigan, and you took 167
that personally?
A. It wasn't -- I wasn't in charge of any monitoring on the
border. There is a detective superintendent and an
inspector in charge of all that. You are misquoting me and
misreading the situation, Mr. Robinson. I was only in
charge in gathering intelligence. I was not involved in
any part of a military operation. That was all done --
like, even with the RUC uniform branch, I never had any,
only very minimum contact, because there was none -- it
wasn't my function. Remember, we had a border
superintendent and an inspector looking after all of that,
and all border stations were all heavily manned, so to
accuse me that the border -- what was happening in the
border was my fault, is a, totally, misrepresentation of
the facts.
Q. This is your evidence, Mr. Corrigan. You said the changes 168
were brought in because the RUC had an ongoing complaint
that the Garda in Dundalk, not anywhere else, in Dundalk,
were not doing enough to combat terrorism.
A. Yes, but --
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A. But how do you insert or imply that it was the RUC were
complaining and that it was my fault?
Q. Because you were the head Detective Sergeant in Dundalk. 170
A. But sure, like --
Q. You were the -- 171
A. The head Detective Sergeant has nothing got to do with
manning the border. I think you are misrepresenting the
task that is allocated to each section of the force.
Q. This is your evidence, Mr. Corrigan. Mr. Corrigan, this is 172
your evidence.
A. I know it's my evidence, but sure I'm trying to explain to
you the facts surrounding it. You are not comparing like
with like, Mr. Robinson. There is Garda patrols, there is
army patrols out there every day. I had nothing got to do
with them.
Q. I suggested to you earlier, Mr. Corrigan, that you were 173
ripe -- you were the correct category to be a great source
for PIRA, and then you said you were dedicated to your job.
A. I find that --
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you were ripe for the picking as being a source for PIRA?
A. Are you accusing me of being a source for the PIRA?
Q. I can suggest to you -- 175
A. Are you accusing me? Answer me now.
Q. Mr. Corrigan -- 176
A. I am asking you --
Q. Well, let me answer you, Mr. Corrigan. 177
A. Yes.
Q. I have the luxury of asking questions; you have the 178
obligation to answer them.
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A. Yes, I accept --
Q. You have been reminded of that on numerous occasions over 179
the times you have given evidence.
A. Yes. Well, cheap shots again, you know.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Chairman, sorry to interrupt. I think it
should be put to the witness if that's the PSNI case, that
Mr. Corrigan was an IRA source, that should be put directly
to him. I am unsure as to what is the PSNI attitude to
Mr. Corrigan at this stage. If they are saying he was a
Provo source, I think that should be put to the witness so
he can have an opportunity of responding to it.
CHAIRMAN: I am sure --
MR. DILLON: Sorry to interrupt you, Chairman, but it's a
matter for Mr. Robinson to put questions as he considers
appropriate.
CHAIRMAN: I was about to say that. Mr. Robinson will ask
the questions as he thinks fit, and, of course, he is bound
to accept the answers he gets.
MR. ROBINSON: Without a doubt. And in addition,
Mr. Chairman, I represent an organisation, their
predecessor of which lost two officers. Now, this Tribunal
is here to test the evidence of the witnesses before it; I
am here to test the evidence as well, and if I feel I need
to test this witness in particular, then I should be free
to do so. I should not have to assure My Learned Friend
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about what my position is. I am simply testing the
evidence that this witness has given.
CHAIRMAN: I think your position is clear. I think you
should continue with your questioning, Mr. Robinson.
Q. MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Corrigan, I suggest to you that in the 180
late eighties, after the changes brought about by the
Anglo-Irish Agreement, you were ripe for the picking to
become a source?
A. That is not correct, and it insults my integrity.
Q. Now, if I can move on to the kidnapping, along with Francie 181
Tiernan.
A. Yes.
Q. The people that abducted you, did they identify themselves 182
as PIRA?
A. No, they didn't, no.
Q. And how long were you held for? 183
A. Two days.
Q. And you gave evidence that the personnel that were 184
interrogating you, changed?
A. Yes.
Q. And how frequently was that? 185
A. I don't know. Every couple of hours.
Q. So, in total, how many interrogators do you recall being 186
exposed to?
A. I don't know now. I can't clearly remember. I'd say about
six.
Q. I believe your evidence earlier was 20 men? 187
A. No, but I'm talking about interrogators.
Q. Overall, the whole operation, whilst you were there for the 188
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two days?
A. Well, I don't know. I couldn't identify one voice from
another, you know.
Q. Well, that's what I'm coming to. You couldn't recognise 189
them by sight, is that correct, because you were
blindfolded?
A. That's right.
Q. You didn't recognise any voices or any accents, is that 190
correct?
A. No - well, they were all northern accents.
Q. All northern accents? 191
A. Yes.
Q. Given your experience along the border and meeting 'on the 192
runs', you couldn't use any of that knowledge to identify
voices?
A. No, all broad south Armagh accents.
Q. Did you pick up any names, or anything like that? 193
A. Oh, no.
Q. You see, something that's very, very puzzling about this, 194
because you didn't provide a statement, and the rationale
for not providing a statement was your personal safety and
that of your family?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. Well, tell me, what risk would have been posed by you 195
providing this statement that you couldn't identify any of
them?
A. My wife, my dear wife, whom I have lost since, asked me,
pleaded with me not to make a statement, and she is the
only person in this world that I had respect and would do
anything she asked me, and I paid the price for all of
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this, for doing my duty far beyond the call of duty.
Q. With the utmost respect, Mr. Corrigan, that's not the 196
reason you gave at the time, that you were asked not to by
your wife?
A. Pardon?
Q. That's not the reason you gave at the time? 197
A. What was the reason?
Q. You can't remember? 198
A. No.
Q. Well, you just said that you were not going to say 199
anything.
A. Pardon?
Q. At the time after the abduction, you said you were not 200
going to provide a statement?
A. Yes.
Q. You didn't provide a reason for it? 201
A. I did, I told Sean Gethins exactly the sequence of events
and what they said and what they covered and the incident
that they covered and they were in such -- went round all
the different persons in the station, they were talking,
and who was giving information, and they covered more the
incidents. There was one particular incident of a van with
a roof being cut out of it, that they wished to know who
gave that information, because -- I don't wish to go into
detail, but the person that got that information in the
Detective Branch, they didn't know his name because he was
a recent addition to Dundalk, and that was -- it was the
time, though, they were converting vans, taking the roof
out of Hiace vans and logging mortars from them, and, in
fact, one of them, in 1985, killed five or six officers in
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Newry RUC station, and that's what they were devising at
the time.
Q. I just want to be clear, Mr. Corrigan, that you gave 202
evidence that you had the most extensive mental totality of
the IRA personnel, and you couldn't identify any of the 20
people that you were exposed to during this incident?
A. Repeat that please, Mr. Robinson?
Q. You gave evidence that you had the most extensive mental 203
totality of IRA personnel, yet you failed to identify any
of the 20 people?
A. Yeah, well, I was blindfolded and I wasn't in a position.
I was deeply traumatised and didn't know if I was ever
going to come out of that house. Like, to ask me for the
powers of recollection, like, is totally unfair. I feared
for my life and didn't expect that I would, in fact, ever
live another day from --
Q. What you then should have done was ensure that those 204
responsible were brought before the courts, by providing a
statement. That's what you should have done.
A. Mr. Robinson, I live five miles from the border. I don't
know what you realise. I live five miles from the border
with, then, a wife and a couple of young kids, and I'll
tell you, it was -- it's very easy for somebody in an urban
environment to turn around and say what you should have
done. What would I do if I came in -- when -- I saw what
happened to the late Pat Finucane as a result of what a
parliamentary individual said, and I was afraid of the same
circumstances in view -- Mr. Donaldson made the statement
against me in the House of Commons which he was told, my
whole name was leaked to him by our friend, Mr. Keeley, and
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that's what I feared, and fear to this day. There are
people there who, if Jeffrey Donaldson said -- that was an
incitement to kill when he named me in the House of
Commons, and that's what I have delivered.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, is it always the case that you always lived 205
near the border?
A. Yes.
Q. Throughout your time being at the forefront of the fight 206
against subversives?
A. Yes.
Q. It didn't stop you fighting then? 207
A. It didn't, but you have no security of tenure when you are
not a member of the force. Like, they won't touch you --
well, they don't touch you when you are a member of the
force, because that's one of their written laws or
regulations, if you consider that they have any rules or
regulations, only when it suits them. I was very
vulnerable --
Q. Mr. Corrigan, I suggest to you that you knew fine rightly 208
why you were abducted, and the reason you didn't provide a
statement is because you were involved in some business
transaction with Francie Tiernan?
A. Oh, that is totally incorrect.
Q. And the reality is that if this had been an abduction, you 209
would have made a statement?
A. I wouldn't have made a statement. I wouldn't make a
statement for anything.
Q. And on this point about being afraid because you live near 210
the border, if that was the correct position, that fear
would have been with you all through your time as a guard?
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A. Yes. But --
Q. And that didn't stop you? 211
A. But you fail to listen to what I said. I had the backing
of the force. When you retire from the force, it's a very
lonely place to be, Mr. Robinson, and it's very easy for
you to come here and say, a period of 20 years later, "why
didn't you do this or why didn't you do that?" I am living
in the midst -- five miles from south Armagh, and all
those, I have no doubt, the south Armagh region, and I
don't have to remind you of what the people from south
Armagh are like.
Q. This rings with other evidence you have given, 212
Mr. Corrigan, with regards to the pints being poured over
you.
A. Yes.
Q. And you never made a complaint about that incident? 213
A. No.
Q. And you knew these people? 214
A. I did, yes.
Q. Were they members of subversive organisations? 215
A. Yes, one of them a leading member.
Q. And the rationale was that if you did make a complaint, the 216
next night there'd be three pints?
A. Absolutely.
Q. And next night, one can imagine, four pints? 217
A. Absolutely. Well, it could be anything. I wouldn't
confine it to pints.
Q. How do you reconcile those positions, Mr. Corrigan, because 218
if you can't even prosecute someone pouring a drink over
you, you expect this Tribunal to accept that you were out
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fighting subversives 24/7? One would think they would fall
out with you a little quicker if you were disrupting their
PIRA activities?
A. But sure they did obstruct -- sure nobody suffered more
than I did.
Q. We have heard that before, Mr. Corrigan. 219
A. Yes.
Q. But how do you reconcile the two positions --220
A. Do you accept that?
Q. -- that you couldn't prosecute for the pouring of a drink 221
over you, yet you were at the forefront of the fight
against subversives?
A. That would show you the control that they had in Dundalk at
the time, and what purpose was I serving -- I'd go -- that
individual would be sentenced to a month and they'd be out
in a fortnight, and the same thing would happen again and
again and again, and it could happen with them burning my
house, or anything. You are not comparing like with like
if you are saying, "why didn't you prosecute them for
everything that they did?"
Q. Again, Mr. Corrigan, how do you reconcile that you couldn't 222
prosecute for a pint being thrown over you, but you say you
were out at the forefront of the fight against them?
A. Yeah.
Q. Surely they would have taken direct action against you if 223
you had interfered with their PIRA activities?
A. Well, nobody -- sure I did interfere with the PIRA
activities.
Q. Yes, but how -- you say they had such control that you 224
couldn't even prosecute over a pint. Do you see the
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difference?
A. No, I don't see the difference.
Q. You don't see the difference? 225
A. No, I don't see the difference. If that was in a normal
situation, if somebody poured a pint over you, you'd
prosecute them. But they'd be back in another fortnight,
three weeks, and God knows what they'd do with you. After
all, the sequence -- I want to explain to you, I only took
my poor late wife out for a meal because of the hassle that
I got over Dominic McGlinchey's extradition, which I,
incidentally, Mr. Chairman, got involved in totally,
totally innocently. I was sitting at home on St. Patrick's
Day in 1984, I was off duty, and a man of similar rank --
and I think one of the counsel mentioned this at one stage,
how did I become -- the Dominic McGlinchey thing. And I
was sitting at home when this man of similar rank came up
to the house and asked -- was very agitated, and said to
me -- now, Dominic McGlinchey had been the best-known
terrorist circulating in Ireland at this stage and he had
been arrested in Newmarket-on-Fergus in County Clare after
a shootout with the Gardaí. And this man came up and said
"Dominic McGlinchey is going to the High Court in Dublin
this evening, and I never did an extradition warrant and I
am very fearful of him because of his reputation." He was
on everyone's lips, he was on television, radio. Like, he
was the man of the moment, Billy the Kid, so to speak, and
I could see that the man, who hadn't much experience, was
visibly distressed and didn't -- I turned around and I did
something which I regret for the rest of my life; I was
going out socially, it was St. Patrick's night, and my poor
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late wife was ready to go and I was ready to go, and I
turned around and I said, "Well, okay, I'll take the
warrant and I'll go up and execute it." And, to me, it was
the biggest mistake, because what I suffered over that and
taken on what I shouldn't, what -- I wasn't even working, I
was off, and what I suffered and my poor family suffered
over that, including the three-by-three photographs that
were knocked on the wall right up onto my own house, the
IRA came up and nailed these three-by-three photographs,
"Wanted for treason, Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan," and
me with a photograph holding Dominic McGlinchey, and my two
kids of eight and nine coming from the local friary and
seeing this and going into a panic. I had to keep them at
home and get the doctor for them.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, it was correct that Mr. McGlinchey was INLA 226
at the time?
A. What?
Q. It was correct that Mr. McGlinchey was INLA? 227
A. Yes.
Q. Are you saying PIRA put up the posters? 228
A. Whoever put up the posters, they were put up. I don't
think there is any question about that.
Q. It goes back to the point, Mr. Corrigan? 229
A. Pardon?
Q. It goes back to the point that the subversives had such 230
control over Dundalk that you couldn't even prosecute over
a pint being spilled over you; that's your evidence, isn't
that correct?
A. Well, I suppose, in hindsight, if I had prosecuted them, I
don't know what problem that would have solved, but in
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hindsight we do things differently, Mr. Robinson.
Q. Also, when you were kidnapped, you said by the demeanour of 231
your captors you got the impression they believed you were
still working undercover for An Garda Siochana?
A. Yes.
Q. How did you glean that impression? 232
A. Well, they said it to me, you know.
Q. Are you sure about that? 233
A. Yes.
Q. And was it based on any of your activities at the time? 234
A. No, it was different -- they covered everything, they were
interested in knowing who was giving information.
Q. Let's just take this stage by stage, because I am 235
interested in how they were under the impression that you
were working undercover.
A. Well, there was rumours around Dundalk at that time that I
was going to, and had been working in Dublin with
Headquarters for a period in the recovery of the Beit
paintings. These things all leak out, you know. I was
involved with Mr. Conroy in investigating for the recovery
of the Beit paintings.
Q. And can you remind me of the year you were kidnapped; was 236
that '95?
A. That's right.
Q. And the recovery of the Beit paintings, is this when they 237
were stolen by Cahill?
A. That's right.
Q. That was 1986. 238
A. No, no, '91, '92.
Q. Were they stolen again? 239
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A. What?
Q. Were they stolen again? 240
A. Stolen again, yeah.
Q. I am sure we can check that out. 241
A. No problem. You see, it was when I submitted my
resignation, Mr. Robinson, it was then that Mr. Conroy
became aware, and he rang me to the house, to my own house,
and asked me to come down to see him. I met him at a hotel
in Drogheda, and he was accompanied by Sean Camon, who gave
evidence in relation to the Toby Harnden book.
Q. Time-wise, Mr. Corrigan, you say the paintings were stolen 242
in '91. You retired, then, in '92, in February '92, is
that correct?
A. Yes, I couldn't be sure of the paintings, but I think it
was '91.
Q. And then the kidnap was '95? 243
A. That's right.
Q. So, some four years later, because of the Beit paintings, 244
PIRA, who had this 24/7 intelligence machine, still thought
that you were working undercover?
A. Well, there was that suggestion.
Q. A suggestion? 245
A. Yeah. There is so many rumours put about by all, including
PIRA, about different people. You have only to witness
rumours that were pedaled here to know what the extent of
rumours are.
Q. I am just trying to get the detail clear, Mr. Corrigan, 246
because there is a four-year gap between the paintings and
your kidnap, there were rumours going around -- what other
tasks were you asked to do that may have led PIRA to
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believe that you were acting undercover?
A. Oh, I wasn't asked to do anything. I am only saying it was
the general -- there is a lot of gossip amongst those, and
I would be the subject of gossip because of the years of
engagement that I had with them.
Q. It wouldn't be your association with fraudsters or crooks? 247
A. Not that I know of. I can't answer that.
Q. It wouldn't be the fact that you were meeting Mr. Tiernan? 248
A. No, I don't think so, no.
Q. And can you assist me with another part of your evidence, 249
because you suggest that, or -- were you told by these
captors, I want to be clear what your version of this is,
were you told by them that they were getting hassle from
the detectives in Dundalk and that they were going to take
them on, is that correct?
A. They did, yeah.
Q. And, again, if it's accepted that the PIRA intelligence 250
machinery worked 24/7, they would have known that you were
out of action from 1989?
A. Yeah, I am sure -- I don't know, I can't answer for them.
Q. Some six years, some six years prior to your kidnapping --251
A. Yes.
Q. -- you were no longer working there? 252
A. Well, I was working after 1989 now, I was working with
Noel...
Q. But you weren't working for the Detective Branch in 253
Dundalk?
A. No, I was working in Dublin.
Q. Which brings me back to the point: how was kidnapping you 254
ever going to influence Dundalk Detective Branch?
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A. Well, they were going to glean whatever information they
could, because that was their biggest asset, to find out
who -- a lot of intelligence was coming through me, and
they knew that because we had thwarted several operations
in relation to different things, including what I told you
about the bomb factory in Co. Meath.
Q. Tell me, Mr. Corrigan, did you pass information to the 255
guards after you -- or during your period of sick leave?
A. No -- I would have passed bits and pieces, yeah.
Q. And who would you have passed those pieces of intelligence 256
to?
A. I don't know, I don't know in particular now, but I would
have met them and discussed various things, you know.
Q. And how long did that continue for? 257
A. Not very long now, you know.
Q. Did it continue up to the time of retirement? 258
A. Pardon?
Q. Did it continue up to the time of retirement? 259
A. It would have, yeah.
Q. And having spent such a long time in the guards, it would 260
be very hard to walk away from the system, with the people
that you knew?
A. Oh, it would, yeah.
Q. And during that time, you, of course, would have been able 261
to say "This is what I have learned from my sources and I
hope this can help"?
A. Yes.
Q. And to put you in the picture, there would have been 262
exchanges of information that you could go back, possibly,
to your source and glean more information, would that be
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fair?
A. Pardon?
Q. Would it be fair to suggest that that process of when you 263
pass on information was an exchange because they could put
you in the picture and you could go and get more
instructions or more information from your sources?
A. Ah, yeah, but I wouldn't have any extensive search, but
they might ask me from time to time about, apart from --
like, and I have to be very careful because I'll be accused
to be some other -- there'll be some other adjective used
here to describe if I use any complimentary words in
relation to myself. I would -- if they wanted some point
clarified or a connection between different people, I would
invariably be in that position to, as just to cover Mr.
Brunton's thing yesterday, the small things are what make
the overall picture, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Brunton, I thought,
was very, very accurate when he said somebody was trying to
denigrate the C77s. He said all C77s are important. He
was very emphatic on that point when you asked him.
Q. I just want to be clear, Mr. Corrigan, and if I am 264
labouring on the detail, I do apologise, but when you were
on sick leave until you retired, you had provided
information to your Garda colleagues and they would keep
you in the picture and ask you to go back and check things?
A. Well, they wouldn't be keeping me in the picture, no. It
would be, you just might meet them out socially, or
whatnot. There would be no ongoing discussion, or whatnot.
Like, when you leave, you leave, and that's it.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, these are not trick questions. If you 265
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would be to your benefit, and the Tribunal would like to
know that, I imagine. So these are not trick questions.
A. No, I am not saying they are, but what I'm saying to you is
I would only be -- I wouldn't be in possession of -- I
would only be filling in the dots on the Is if they asked
me in particular circumstances. Some of them wouldn't have
that much experience, but they'd be just asking me to dot
the Is and top the Ts, so to speak.
Q. And again, Mr. Corrigan, I am trying to be as fair as 266
possible. That was a two-way street: in order for you to
dot the Is, you needed to know what the body of the 'I'
was; if you needed to stroke the T, then you needed to know
what the T was made of?
A. Yes.
Q. You say this continued until your retirement? 267
A. Yes.
Q. And again, it would be of assistance if you could tell the 268
Tribunal if you perhaps assisted the guards after that
date, after 1992?
A. No. No, I didn't, no.
Q. And just to be clear, your function or your speciality was 269
that of intelligence?
A. Always intelligence and the protection of the RUC coming
into this jurisdiction, be it RUC, the judiciary from
Northern Ireland. I was strongly motivated by any person
from the North of Ireland security service putting foot in
the State, and any member that was with me will corroborate
that, that when we --
Q. I just want to be clear, Mr. Corrigan, because the period 270
of time that you talk about covers the period of time
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during which Tom Oliver was abducted and murdered, are you
aware of that?
A. Yes.
Q. And you are aware of the allegation that you passed 271
information that he was a source, you are aware of that
allegation, yes?
A. Allegation from who?
Q. Well, you know who, Mr. Corrigan. 272
A. The British double agent?
Q. You are aware of the allegation, Mr. Corrigan. 273
A. Of course I am aware, yes.
Q. I just want to confirm -- 274
A. I wasn't a member of the force, Mr. Robinson.
Q. Well, Mr. Corrigan, you have just given evidence that you 275
didn't need to be, to be passing information?
A. No.
Q. You didn't need to be a member of the force when your 276
colleagues filled you in on the picture?
A. I take great offence at that suggestion from the likes of a
British double agent.
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A. I am a -- well, let me have my say, if you don't mind. I
was a personal friend of Mr. Oliver's brother-in-law and
had been visiting him for over 30 years, a respectable
farmer in Co. Louth, and I take great offence for his name
to be -- for me to be accused, with the resultant publicity
that that will receive in the papers. Deeply offended.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, I am simply confirming that during the time 278
of your sick leave, you were in contact with An Garda
Siochana; you were passing intelligence and you were
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receiving intelligence, yes?
A. No, I wasn't.
Q. Well, that's a matter for the Tribunal. 279
A. Yeah.
Q. Now, if I can move on to the episodes where you saved 280
officers' lives, can we deal with those now?
A. Which of them?
Q. Well, we'll deal with Witness 27. 281
A. I don't know what you are speaking about.
Q. You'll be shown a cipher list. 282
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A. Yes.
Q. Now, on Day 30, Witness 27 gave evidence about an incident 283
on the 27th April 1981, and he travelled to Dundalk, met
with you and took you to meet a subversive source.
A. That's right.
Q. Now, on Day 30, I believe it's page 120, you travelled 284
there -- at line 26: "But we appeared to be compromised by
three vehicles which Corrigan recognised as we drove to the
rendezvous point, and he said 'this is a trap, get out of
here'." Do you accept that?
A. That's right.
Q. And furthermore, page 121, line 10: 285
"Question: Is that a source that you had met
on previous occasions?
Answer: Yes, he was highly connected to the
Republican movement.
Question: Had Detective Sergeant Corrigan been with
you on the previous occasions when you met that
source?
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Answer: I had introduced him twice before. And the
source had agreed to cooperate in working with both
of us."
Further down that page:
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became concerned about cars that were in the vicinity
of the meeting point that you had arranged with your
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Answer: I was concentrating on the car that I was to
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vicinity which he recognised as belonging to
subversives."
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indicate that, in fact, it was an attempt on your
life?
Answer: Well, I always regarded it on the basis of
the reaction of Mr. Corrigan."
This is cross-examination from your own counsel:
"Question: Can I ask you, and it may be a difficult
question for you, but I'll ask you anyway, do you
believe that Sergeant Corrigan saved your life on
that day?
Answer: Without going to the extremes, he probably
saved both of our lives if the circumstances were
what we believed them to be."
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Now, the questioning continued as to whether or not it was
a setup by the source, and the answer to that was:
"Well, it is pure speculation. I am not in a
position to confirm it or otherwise."
Now, did you file any C77s in relation to this incident?
A. I can't recall.
Q. Was anybody prosecuted as a result of this incident? 286
A. How do you mean "prosecuted"?
Q. For an attempted abduction, PIRA membership? 287
A. Sure, there was no abduction. We got out --
Q. Attempted? 288
A. What are you trying to reconstruct, Mr. Robinson? We got
out of danger's way. I got this man away as quick as I
could. And as he pointed out, bullets are not choosy; if
they were going to shoot him, I was in the hail of fire,
too.
Q. Did you take any action to track the vehicles? 289
A. No, I didn't.
Q. Did you take any action to track the occupants of the 290
vehicles?
A. No.
Q. Did you take any action to track down the owners of the 291
vehicles?
A. I didn't, no. And incidentally, that individual was one of
the closest friends, dear friends I have had the pleasure
of meeting during my turbulent times within the RUC, an
absolute gentleman and with very, very high principles.
Q. Now, the evidence is that you knew the vehicles belonged to 292
subversives?
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A. Yes.
Q. Do you accept that? 293
A. I can't recall what they were, but, you see, they had --
there is, roughly, a fleet of about five, six cars, and
they were moving them intermittently from -- every day, and
they were fully staffed by active members of the IRA and
they were changing -- you would see -- you were liable to
see them in any type of vehicle.
Q. These vehicles belonged to subversives. Did you take any 294
steps to track down the owners of the vehicles?
A. No, I didn't, no.
Q. Did you take any step to search the premises of the owners 295
of these vehicles?
A. I didn't, no.
Q. Did you file a report, even, that there had been an 296
attempted hijacking?
A. I didn't, no.
Q. And you accept this was an attempted hijacking? 297
A. Oh, absolutely.
Q. Your evidence on Day 102: "I saw exactly the hijacking 298
being planned, and, because I knew the area, knew the
people involved, that was the reason why I was able to take
evasive action and get him out of that. That man is alive
today, thanks to me."
You didn't even report this, did you?
A. I don't know whether I did or not. But I did the most
important thing: I saved the man's life and got him out of
there. And it was what -- what draw my attention was the
actual location of the vehicles; in other words, that they
were placed in strategic positions to effect an escape
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after carrying out an incident of this sort.
Q. Did you make a note of the registration numbers of the 299
vehicles?
A. I didn't, no. I left the scene as quickly as I could and I
wasn't interested in taking notes. The saviour of this
man's life was my top priority.
Q. Just to be clear, your evidence on Day 102 was that you 300
knew the people involved?
A. I don't know did I. I can't recall.
Q. Page 23, line 22. 301
A. Well, I don't know, Mr. Robinson. I mean, there's a lot of
things here at this Tribunal, Mr. Robinson, that I can't
recall.
Q. Let's be very, very clear, Mr. Corrigan: the only evidence 302
that there was any risk to this officer or any information
that this officer was a risk, came from you?
A. Well, he is a very, very highly experienced officer, and he
came to the same conclusion.
Q. I'll read you again what you said: 303
"Question: Would you agree with me that that would
indicate, in fact, it was an attempt on your life?
Answer: Well, I always regarded it on the basis of
the reaction of Mr. Corrigan, and he probably saved
both of our lives if the circumstances were what we
believed them to be."
He was relying totally on your information, Mr. Corrigan.
A. Well, I think it's an accurate summing-up of his assessment
of the situation. Like, I mean, what further could he put
it? He has given an accurate assessment --
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Mr. Corrigan?
A. Exactly. What was wrong with that?
Q. Tell me, following from this event... 305
A. Yes...
Q. ... this was a frightening turn of events, that a meeting 306
with a source was compromised?
A. Yes.
Q. What steps were taken to investigate that compromise? 307
A. I don't know, but what I do know, because I remember him
recalling, that source never contacted him at any stage
after that, so it proved that he was being set up.
Q. That doesn't prove anything, Mr. Corrigan. 308
A. It does, of course.
Q. It does not. 309
A. Absolutely.
Q. It could have been fear or it could indeed have been the 310
fact that the PIRA were on to the rendezvous that he was
too scared?
A. There is no point in me offering an opinion to you,
Mr. Robinson; you have your own.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, I am testing your evidence. 311
A. I am only --
Q. I am testing your evidence, Mr. Corrigan. 312
A. Mr. [redacted] expressed --
Q. Please refer to cyphers, Mr. Corrigan. 313
A. Or the Witness 27 expressed surprise and fear that he never
heard from, and, from what I could gather, it was an
ongoing connection that he was having with this contact,
informant.
Q. Now, you met this PIRA member on two occasions --314
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A. Yes.
Q. -- prior to this attempted hijack, yes? 315
A. Yes.
Q. And he was from Dundalk? 316
A. Yes.
Q. Did you ever approach this man and say, "What on earth 317
happened on the 27th of April, 1981?"
A. I don't know, and, in fact, at this point, I don't remember
who he was.
Q. So it sticks in your mind that you saved this officer's 318
life, but it's escaped you who actually may have caused the
risk in the first place?
A. Well --
Q. Is that your evidence to this Tribunal? 319
A. Yes. I am relating to it exactly as I have -- exactly as I
found the facts emerging.
Q. And if this was an attempted hijack, no doubt PIRA would 320
have been armed?
A. Oh, yes, absolutely.
Q. Surely your response should have been, Mr. Corrigan, that 321
when you got back to the station, you told your other
detectives to go out and try and catch these PIRA members,
that's what should have happened?
A. Sure, perhaps it should have, yeah.
Q. What do you mean "perhaps"? 322
A. Well, perhaps -- a lot of things happened that -- not
everything is black and white, Mr. Robinson, you know.
Q. Let's go through that, because you have just saved the life 323
of an RUC officer. It's a serious event because a
rendezvous with a source has been compromised, there are
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armed PIRA members roaming about in two, possibly three
vehicles, and you do nothing about that when you get back
to the station?
A. I don't know whether I did or not, I can't recall whether I
did or not. I'm not saying --
Q. It would stick in your mind if you went out immediately -- 324
A. It would, and I can't say I didn't do anything. I can't
recall.
Q. And just to confirm, the only source of information 325
Witness 27 had was you?
A. Yes. I had been dealing with him for many years and found
him an exemplary friend.
Q. If you move to Witness X, he gave evidence on Day 93. This 326
was an occasion when Witness X came to visit you in Dundalk
Station?
A. Yes.
Q. And you went downstairs to see if the coast was clear? 327
A. No, I don't know if that is the correct sequence. I think
I was coming into the station to meet him. I think he may
have indicated that he was there to see me, because I met
-- I seen the two leading Provos in the reception area in
the station on the way up to the Detective Branch office, I
think now, I'm not sure, because this thing is all hazy to
me, Mr. Chairman. A lot of these facts I can't recall at
all. My -- in view of the fact, the state of my health,
there are things I can't remember, like, and I have been
asked about different things and I haven't full
recollection of a lot of the matters.
Q. Day 93, page 99, line 19: 328
"There was one particular evening that I went to
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Dundalk to see Detective Sergeant Corrigan about
matters concerning the border area and whenever we
had finished our business he advised me to wait until
he had checked to see if the coast was clear for me
to leave. He went down into the entrance area of the
station, came back up and advised me to hang on a
while because there was certain people in from
Belfast that would probably know me, and I waited
until they had left the building. Then, whenever he
came back, he said 'I don't think it would be wise
for you to be coming back to this place again'."
That's his evidence.
A. Yes.
Q. Does your recollection accord with that? 329
A. I remember him being there, all right, but any more than
that, I can't help you, Mr. Robinson.
Q. And it's correct that Witness X remained upstairs whilst 330
you were downstairs?
A. That's right, yeah. Well, I was very -- that was my -- at
all times, if a member of the RUC came around, I wouldn't
allow them to leave the station without an escort, and that
was, I mean, the way from the time I was there. When the
RUC rang the station, in my time, Brian McCabe took the
call, he came out to me, Brian McCabe was the Inspector on
duty, he came out to me, told me what time, their appointed
time, I went down to the sergeant in charge and I told him
to have the gate open, we'll say, 15 minutes before the
pending time of arrival and -- or the time allocated for
their time of arrival, and he did that, and they arrived on
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the station, the Harp Lager side of the station, parked the
car and were taken by the same individual who locked the
gates of the gate and brought them up through an
interconnecting door which led them up to the stairs, which
obviated any reason to use the stairs or the outside
reception area, as such; it was only a common place where
members of the public, 10, 15 people at any one time, were
congregating to present their documents, and which those
men were obliged to come in and press the bell at two
o'clock when they arrived, which I found baffling, to say
the least. I would have thought that somebody would be
there to meet them, because that was the situation that was
previous to my tenure, for the 13 years I was there, I
insisted that they were brought in, brought into the yard
and taken upstairs by the man who allowed them to park in
the yard.
Q. Let's go back to the question and the issue. It is 331
correct, Mr. Corrigan, that the only source of information
that Witness X had about this alleged risk was you?
A. Yes. Well, I don't know what he had.
Q. Now, if I can move to another issue, Mr. Corrigan, and that 332
is Mr. John McAnulty and your evidence surrounding that
issue.
A. Yes.
Q. Now, on Day 108, page 32, line 25, questions were being put 333
to you by Tribunal counsel regarding John McAnulty, and you
stated, "He wasn't the only one at the time. The IRA had
issued a threat to numerous persons whom they thought were
under suspicion." That's correct?
A. That's correct, yes.
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Q. And how were you aware of that? 334
A. Well, it was general intelligence.
Q. And when you say "general intelligence," is that 335
information that you were told --
A. Yes.
Q. -- from the sources that you cultivated over many years? 336
A. Yes. Well, do you see, the situation is the IRA changed
their strategy from time to time, from one year to the
next, and one particular time they'd have emphasis on -- in
the earlier years, they'd have emphasis on who was giving
information, because there was a considerable amount of
stuff being found and everyone was under suspicion, and
that's why they were engaged in wholesale examination of
potential -- I'd better not use the word 'touts' or I'll be
admonished -- to potential informants.
Q. And I just want to get the sequencing correct, 337
Mr. Corrigan, if you can assist. You learned of this
information from your sources, that other people were under
threat --
A. Yes.
Q. -- is that correct? And was this prior to the abduction of 338
Mr. McAnulty?
A. Well, I couldn't be categoric. It was around the same
time. There was always a certain amount of gossip
circulating, and you had to find it hard -- like, you
didn't accept everything you heard, either.
Q. But just to be clear, your evidence has been that there 339
were threats against numerous individuals?
A. That's right, yeah.
Q. And you are aware of the identities of these individuals, 340
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is that correct?
A. Well, I can't say now that I was aware of the people, but
it was a -- general rumours that were circulating in the
border area, you know.
Q. Well, your evidence was he wasn't the only one at the time; 341
they had issued a threat to numerous persons?
A. Yes...
Q. So, it's fair to suggest that you knew who these people 342
were; your sources were good?
A. Well, I don't know whether they were good, but you had to
segregate and assess what they were telling you, you know.
You didn't expect -- you didn't accept everything they were
saying, either.
Q. You see, the issue I'm getting at, Mr. Corrigan, is this: 343
upon review of your C77s, you don't actually record threats
against any individuals throughout 1989. Can you explain
that?
A. Mr. -- I can't explain, because from what I have seen, they
have nothing only criticism about my C77s. I was
contributing as many as I can, and I seem to be the source
of criticism for every forensic examination that they have
been treated to.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, these were people at risk, you would accept 344
that, wouldn't you?
A. Yes, risk at various risks of risks. Like, there was
always an element of that within the border. There were
people being shot over the years and dumped, and whatnot,
for various indiscretions.
Q. And would you accept -- 345
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cheap. It was very cheap.
Q. And you would accept, Mr. Corrigan, that an intelligence 346
system needs any snippet of information in order to get the
full picture?
A. Pardon?
Q. An intelligence system requires every snippet of 347
information?
A. It does, yeah.
Q. So therefore, threats against named individuals is 348
information that should be part of that system?
A. Sorry, I just want to get a drink. Excuse me,
Mr. Robinson.
Q. We are on the issue of the threats to individuals, and I 349
asked you that threats to individuals -- sorry, an
intelligence system requires every piece of intelligence
possible?
A. Absolutely.
Q. And threats to individuals would fall into that category? 350
A. Yes.
Q. And it's correct that, despite the fact that you were aware 351
of this intelligence, you didn't put that into the system?
A. I didn't, no.
Q. So not only do we have the threat against Mr. McAnulty not 352
registered, there were other individuals against whom
threats were made and they were not fed into the system?
A. No, it would appear not, no. I can't be categoric now.
Q. And do you accept, or do you maintain the position that you 353
were doing your best during this time?
A. Well, sure, on reflection, one is never happy that they are
doing their best. They'd like to do better, but, sure,
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we're all human, you know. We do -- I was, at all times,
doing what I thought was the best.
Q. And following the argument, or the questions that were put 354
to you regarding Mr. McAnulty, you had the gift to provide
that information to An Garda Siochana, and failed to do so?
A. Yes. I realise that now, but I didn't realise it at the
time.
Q. So, to be very clear, there were people out there at risk, 355
and nothing was being done about it?
A. Well, I wouldn't say that now.
Q. Well, nobody knew? 356
A. Yeah, but sure the RUC knew.
Q. Well, let's blame the big bad RUC in the North. 357
A. Yeah.
Q. We are talking about you, Mr. Corrigan, and the information 358
that you had.
A. Well, I'm not --
Q. After the abduction and murder of Mr. McAnulty, bearing in 359
mind you had the knowledge that other people were at risk,
did you then feed into the system the names of those
individuals who were at risk?
A. I didn't, but just to go back there to Mr. McAnulty, I
thought there were C77s from me to confirm that
Mr. McAnulty was at risk.
Q. From the night he was abducted, but you gave evidence that 360
you were aware of the risk prior to that time?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, after the abduction and murder of Mr. McAnulty, did 361
you put into the system the threats against other
individuals in case they were kidnapped and murdered?
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A. I didn't, because I was as fully engaged in trying to
locate the location -- they were moving his body around,
you know, and it was all within the jurisdiction.
Q. After his body was found in the ditch, Mr. Corrigan, did 362
you input into the system the threats against any other
individuals?
A. I didn't, no.
Q. And that's with the knowledge that somebody, against whom a 363
threat had been made, had been abducted and murdered, and
you still didn't put those names into the system?
A. I didn't, no.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, I have to put to you that that is a 364
disgraceful position, utterly disgraceful. People at risk,
and you ignored that risk?
A. Sure that's what happened, it happened, Mr. Robinson.
Q. Is that your response? 365
A. Yeah.
Q. This ties in with your view of people who may or may not 366
have provided information, doesn't it; they are the lowest
form of life, isn't that correct? There is a picture
building, Mr. Corrigan, do you see that?
A. No, I don't, no.
Q. You didn't care about sources? 367
A. You are building it; I'm not.
Q. You didn't care about alleged or potential sources, you 368
didn't care about people that were subject to threats from
PIRA. So tell me this: how does that reconcile itself
with your fight against subversives?
A. Oh, I think it sits very well. I did as much as anyone
could do about --
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Q. You did as much as you could do? 369
A. Yes.
Q. Eleven, eleven C77s in eleven months, that's as much as you 370
could do?
A. What's that?
Q. You submitted eleven C77s in eleven months, and you were 371
doing the best that you could do?
A. I'd question that now, you know.
Q. Oh, you'd question that? 372
A. Yeah.
Q. How many days have you given evidence? 373
A. Oh, I don't know.
Q. Countless days. 374
A. Pardon? Yeah.
Q. Now is the first time you dispute the number of C77s --375
A. Well, I know that --
Q. -- when you are being cross-examined about it. 376
A. No, I submitted I think -- I wouldn't know, I couldn't
count or I have no knowledge of C77s. Even those that were
produced to me, I couldn't recall even submitting them.
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you didn't register these threats, isn't it?
A. In what way?
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are wary of where they go, people are wary of who they
meet, they try and minimise the risk of being kidnapped or
abducted. So it benefitted PIRA that these threats were
not registered?
A. Sure that's all speculation. How can I answer that
question?
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Q. It's not speculation. 379
A. It is, of course.
Q. It's logic, Mr. Corrigan. 380
A. It's not logic; it's wild speculation.
Q. So if somebody is at risk and is warned -- I'll address it 381
a different way. You say that -- are you saying, then,
there was no need to warn these people or there was no
benefit in warning these people?
A. Oh, there was, of course, benefit, yeah.
Q. What was the benefit of warning people? 382
A. There were other people's -- other members of the force
dealing with it, too. Like, it's not solely down to me,
I'm sure --
Q. Well, you were the person, Mr. Corrigan, that gave evidence 383
that you did not provide your sources to other detectives?
A. Absolutely. What I'm saying --
Q. So, with respect, Mr. Corrigan, you received your 384
information from the sources you had gleaned over the 13 or
14 years in Dundalk?
A. Yes.
Q. The sources that you did not share. So how are the other 385
detectives to know of these threats, of this information?
A. Sure they were part of the investigation; I wasn't.
Q. Of the threats against other individuals, Mr. Corrigan? 386
Please address your mind to the issues.
A. Well, that would be part of the general investigation.
Q. What general investigation, Mr. Corrigan? 387
A. Of Mr. McAnulty.
Q. I'm not talking about Mr. McAnulty; I am talking about the 388
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feeding their threats into the system?
A. Well, there was no specific threats, as such. There was
nobody -- there was nobody pinpointed, names or addresses
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Q. He wasn't the only one at the time. 389
A. It was a general threat that was circulating, one of which
circulated on an ongoing basis in the border area -- the
border area is a haven for gossip and rumour and stories,
so you have to take everything with a grain of salt.
Q. So I just want to be clear. After the abduction and murder 390
of Mr. McAnulty, despite the fact you were aware of other
threats, you never filed those. Did you tell any other
detectives that individuals were under threat? Did you
share your information from your source?
A. I can't recall whether I did or not. I may have. I think
it was a general discussion that there was threats going
around at that time, you know.
Q. Bear with me one moment, Mr. Corrigan. 391
MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Chairman, I wonder if it's possible to
rise very briefly, I just want to check one point, and I
could finish before one o'clock and continue on Wednesday.
CHAIRMAN: I'll rise for, how long, five minutes?
MR. ROBINSON: Five minutes. I am obliged.
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THE TRIBUNAL ADJOURNED BRIEFLY AND RESUMED AS FOLLOWS:
MR. ROBINSON: I am obliged, Mr. Chairman.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, just one final issue before we leave today's 392
session. Previously, you gave evidence that you were in
the station on the 20th of March, 1989, when the news came
in about the murders?
A. That's right.
Q. And it's correct that your shift ended at four o'clock? 393
A. That's right.
Q. And can you recall what you did after that when your shift 394
ended?
A. I just walked to my home, it's a short distance away.
Q. And did you go back to the station? 395
A. Oh, no, no. Sure I was finished.
Q. I want to be very clear, because two RUC men had been 396
murdered minutes after leaving Dundalk Station. You were
the jewel in the crown, you were the person with the best
sources gleaned over 13 years, you were the man with all
the answers; word comes in around four o'clock that they
are murdered, and you go home?
A. Yeah.
MR. ROBINSON: I have no further questions today, sir. I
am obliged.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much.
MR. DILLON: Chairman, I heard the word -- Chairman, I
heard the word "today". Does that mean Mr. Robinson wishes
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to continue the next time?
MR. ROBINSON: I do indeed, I have another topic regarding
the actual ambush itself, which would take, I imagine, not
more than an hour. No more than an hour, it could be less
than an hour.
MR. DILLON: So be it, so as the person following on
Mr. Robinson knows to be ready at some point on the next
day, that's really what I'm getting at.
CHAIRMAN: The next day will be Wednesday, and you will
proceed with your cross-examination between 11:00 and
12:00, so somebody will need to be ready to go on at 12
noon.
MR. DILLON: Or thereafter, sometime after 12 noon.
MR. ROBINSON: I am very much obliged.
MR. DILLON: I wonder if Ms. Fitzgerald will be ready?
MS. FITZGERALD: Yes, Chairman, I'll be ready to proceed,
but I'll be very brief. So if somebody else will be
starting after me as well.
CHAIRMAN: Yes. Well, who after Ms. Fitzgerald will?
MR. DILLON: Ms. Mulvenna, on behalf of Mr. Blair, she said
she would be very short, so effectively, the next after
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Ms. Fitzgerald will be the Garda Commissioner.
MR. BAKER: We'll be ready to go on Wednesday.
MR. DILLON: If need be, it might be Friday.
MR. BAKER: Indeed.
CHAIRMAN: So eleven o'clock on Wednesday morning then.
THE TRIBUNAL ADJOURNED UNTIL WEDNESDAY, 18TH JULY, 2012,
AT 11 A.M.
''85 [1] - 14:22'86 [2] - 14:25, 14:27'91 [3] - 40:29, 41:12,
41:15'92 [3] - 40:29, 41:12'95 [2] - 40:23, 41:16'I' [1] - 45:11'on [2] - 7:19, 32:13'this [1] - 47:20'touts' [1] - 57:14
110 [2] - 47:23, 56:7101 [2] - 24:29, 25:21102 [5] - 5:15, 6:5, 7:5,
50:20, 51:7108 [2] - 12:2, 56:2511 [1] - 67:1211:00 [1] - 66:1312 [4] - 16:10, 16:12,
66:14, 66:17120 [1] - 47:17121 [1] - 47:2312:00 [1] - 66:1413 [7] - 2:21, 13:16, 19:2,
24:14, 56:13, 63:18, 65:19
14 [5] - 5:15, 16:13, 22:7, 22:30, 63:19
15 [2] - 55:27, 56:716TH [1] - 1:118TH [1] - 67:1119 [1] - 54:291969 [1] - 22:291975 [2] - 1:23, 1:241981 [2] - 47:14, 53:71984 [1] - 38:131985 [2] - 24:29, 33:301986 [2] - 10:1, 40:281989 [6] - 1:26, 10:29,
42:19, 42:24, 58:16, 65:6
1992 [1] - 45:19
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34:10, 36:62012 [2] - 1:1, 67:1120th [1] - 65:622 [1] - 51:1023 [1] - 51:1024/7 [8] - 2:5, 10:7, 10:28,
10:29, 12:4, 37:1, 41:19, 42:18
25 [1] - 56:2526 [1] - 47:1827 [4] - 47:8, 47:13,
52:26, 54:1027th [2] - 47:14, 53:7
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47:1732 [1] - 56:25
440 [1] - 5:15400 [1] - 19:28411 [1] - 19:3045 [1] - 12:2
550 [1] - 24:29
660,000 [1] - 25:1066 [2] - 6:5, 7:5
99 [2] - 6:5, 7:593 [3] - 22:4, 54:13, 54:2999 [1] - 54:29
AA.M [1] - 67:12abducted [6] - 31:14,
35:20, 46:1, 60:25, 61:9, 62:27
abduction [8] - 33:13, 35:24, 49:10, 49:11, 57:21, 60:18, 60:28, 64:10
able [3] - 15:22, 43:24, 50:22
abreast [2] - 12:3, 12:7absolute [1] - 49:28absolutely [10] - 2:10,
3:17, 25:27, 36:24, 36:26, 50:19, 52:15, 53:19, 59:17, 63:16
abuse [1] - 22:10accents [4] - 32:8, 32:10,
32:11, 32:16accept [21] - 6:9, 6:13,
6:14, 10:26, 11:11, 13:22, 15:5, 26:21, 30:1, 30:22, 36:30, 37:9, 47:21, 50:2, 50:18, 57:26, 58:12, 58:23, 58:29, 59:2, 59:27
accepted [4] - 6:8, 7:8, 18:10, 42:17
access [1] - 20:2accompanied [1] - 41:9accord [1] - 55:14account [1] - 24:5accurate [5] - 24:5, 44:17,
51:27, 51:29, 51:30accuse [1] - 28:22accused [2] - 44:9, 46:26accusing [2] - 29:22,
29:24acknowledged [1] - 9:8acres [1] - 22:4acting [2] - 22:8, 42:1
action [6] - 37:25, 42:19, 49:18, 49:20, 49:23, 50:23
active [2] - 12:5, 50:6activists [1] - 16:18activities [5] - 2:7, 37:3,
37:26, 37:28, 40:10activity [2] - 9:15, 9:18actual [4] - 16:15, 16:16,
50:29, 66:4addition [2] - 30:24,
33:27address [3] - 13:12, 63:5,
63:25addresses [1] - 64:3adjective [1] - 44:10ADJOURNED [2] - 65:1,
67:11administration [1] -
18:15admirer [1] - 24:23admonished [1] - 57:15advise [1] - 4:5advised [2] - 55:3, 55:6adviser [1] - 18:10affect [1] - 14:10afraid [3] - 21:21, 34:27,
35:28aftermath [1] - 3:9again' [1] - 55:11agent [3] - 19:16, 46:9,
46:20agitated [1] - 38:17agree [7] - 3:12, 7:12,
12:8, 13:24, 15:2, 48:16, 51:20
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14:22, 25:1, 31:8aim [1] - 12:16Ainsworth [1] - 19:26alive [1] - 50:23allegation [4] - 46:4,
46:6, 46:7, 46:10alleged [3] - 11:29, 56:19,
61:25allocated [2] - 29:8, 55:28allocation [1] - 15:8allow [1] - 55:21allowed [5] - 4:2, 17:12,
17:17, 17:19, 56:15alone [1] - 18:12altogether [2] - 6:22, 9:28ambush [1] - 66:4amount [2] - 57:11, 57:24analyse [1] - 7:4AND [1] - 65:1Anglo [4] - 13:13, 14:22,
25:1, 31:8Anglo-Irish [4] - 13:13,
14:22, 25:1, 31:8answer [19] - 8:19, 17:12,
17:17, 17:20, 19:15, 24:29, 29:24, 29:27, 29:30, 42:7, 42:20, 47:26, 48:1, 48:10, 48:19, 48:27, 49:2, 51:22, 62:29
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65:20anyway [2] - 7:15, 48:24apart [2] - 19:7, 44:8apologise [1] - 44:21appear [2] - 1:19, 59:26appeared [1] - 47:18appointed [1] - 55:25appreciative [1] - 16:14approach [1] - 53:6appropriate [1] - 30:18April [2] - 47:14, 53:7area [13] - 3:24, 4:12,
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argument [1] - 60:3Armagh [5] - 23:4, 32:16,
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25:10, 25:17, 27:25Army's [1] - 27:17arranged [1] - 48:8arrangements [1] - 27:27arrested [2] - 21:3, 38:20arrival [2] - 55:28, 55:29arrived [2] - 55:29, 56:10articulate [1] - 12:3AS [3] - 1:1, 1:16, 65:1aside [4] - 14:15, 15:12,
15:13, 15:14aspersions [1] - 13:3assess [1] - 58:11assessment [4] - 7:10,
51:27, 51:29, 51:30asset [1] - 43:2assist [10] - 16:26, 16:29,
17:6, 17:10, 17:14, 17:24, 18:19, 26:11, 42:10, 57:17
assistance [1] - 45:17Assistant [1] - 11:14assisted [2] - 44:30,
45:18association [1] - 42:6assume [1] - 2:8assure [1] - 30:30AT [1] - 67:12atrocity [1] - 3:10attack [2] - 27:14, 27:16attacked [1] - 28:2attacks [1] - 9:24attempt [2] - 48:17, 51:21attempted [8] - 14:28,
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21:8, 48:19, 51:22, 64:7bear [1] - 64:18bearing [1] - 60:18became [5] - 1:24, 23:13,
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34:11blockade [1] - 27:18blow [1] - 9:3body [4] - 19:2, 45:11,
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23:2, 23:13bombs [2] - 11:6, 23:15book [1] - 41:10border [41] - 4:20, 4:24,
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22:13brief [1] - 66:24briefly [1] - 64:21BRIEFLY [1] - 65:1brings [1] - 42:29British [10] - 14:26, 15:1,
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20:28captors [2] - 40:3, 42:12car [6] - 21:27, 21:28,
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48:11, 50:4case [6] - 2:11, 2:14,
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15:13, 15:14casting [1] - 13:2Castlebellingham [1] -
22:15casual [1] - 17:18catch [1] - 53:22categoric [2] - 57:23,
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CHAIRMAN [13] - 1:7, 1:11, 3:3, 6:29, 7:15, 30:14, 30:20, 31:4, 64:24, 65:27, 66:12, 66:27, 67:9
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changed [3] - 28:4, 31:20, 57:7
changes [17] - 13:14, 14:10, 14:20, 14:23, 15:9, 15:26, 24:27, 25:2, 26:14, 27:1, 27:3, 27:13, 27:14, 28:25, 29:20, 31:7
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2:17, 3:6, 5:14, 5:20, 6:21, 6:25, 7:18, 8:14, 8:26, 9:29, 10:10, 11:10, 12:27, 13:11, 14:3, 14:5, 15:21, 16:24, 17:8, 17:24, 18:16, 19:1, 19:11, 20:2, 20:11, 20:18, 23:6, 23:18, 24:13, 24:16, 25:20, 27:9, 28:1, 28:9, 28:25, 29:9, 29:16, 29:25, 29:27, 30:8, 30:10, 31:6, 33:2, 34:3, 35:5, 35:19, 36:13, 36:28, 37:6, 37:21, 39:10, 39:15, 39:23, 41:11, 41:27, 43:7, 44:20, 44:29, 45:9, 45:29, 46:8, 46:10, 46:14, 46:28, 47:19, 47:28, 48:6, 48:20, 48:25, 51:14, 51:23, 51:26, 52:1, 52:12, 52:21, 52:23, 52:25, 53:20, 55:1, 56:18, 56:21, 57:17, 58:14, 58:23, 59:2, 60:15, 61:4, 61:12, 61:21, 62:21, 63:3, 63:14, 63:17, 63:24, 63:27, 64:18, 65:4
CORRIGAN [1] - 1:15corroborate [1] - 45:27counsel [4] - 23:7, 38:14,
48:22, 56:26count [1] - 62:19countless [1] - 62:13country [1] - 2:30County [2] - 23:4, 38:20couple [3] - 21:22, 31:23,
34:22course [8] - 16:7, 30:21,
43:24, 46:11, 52:13, 62:21, 63:2, 63:9
Court [1] - 38:22courts [1] - 34:18cover [1] - 44:14covered [4] - 33:18,
33:19, 33:21, 40:11covers [1] - 45:30covetous [1] - 18:29criticising [1] - 19:29criticism [2] - 58:19,
58:21crooks [1] - 42:6cross [8] - 1:9, 1:11, 4:20,
4:24, 21:12, 48:22, 62:17, 66:13
CROSS [1] - 1:15cross-border [3] - 4:20,
4:24, 21:12cross-examination [2] -
48:22, 66:13cross-examine [2] - 1:9,
1:11cross-examined [1] -
62:17CROSS-EXAMINED [1] -
1:15crown [3] - 5:19, 11:22,
65:18Culhane [1] - 24:2cultivated [1] - 57:6custody [2] - 21:1, 21:3cut [1] - 33:23CV [3] - 4:7, 4:10, 4:27cyphers [1] - 52:25
Ddanger's [1] - 49:14dangerous [3] - 3:16,
3:19, 27:30date [2] - 12:5, 45:19day-to-day [3] - 2:7, 18:6,
18:10days [5] - 6:15, 31:18,
32:1, 62:11, 62:13deal [2] - 47:6, 47:8dealing [6] - 2:25, 17:18,
18:2, 21:12, 54:11, 63:12
dear [2] - 32:27, 49:26decade [1] - 23:9decision [1] - 15:4dedicated [2] - 13:6,
29:18dedication [3] - 13:5,
13:12, 19:14deeply [5] - 12:23, 12:24,
16:14, 34:12, 46:27delivered [2] - 9:1, 35:4Delvin [1] - 22:13demeanour [1] - 40:2den [1] - 24:24denigrate [1] - 44:18depended [1] - 16:11describe [1] - 44:11described [1] - 24:24description [5] - 13:18,
13:19, 13:20, 13:25, 24:25
despite [2] - 59:20, 64:11detail [3] - 33:25, 41:27,
44:21details [1] - 12:10detective [8] - 1:24, 1:29,
2:2, 5:2, 16:30, 18:27, 25:30, 28:12
Detective [10] - 5:8, 29:3, 29:6, 33:26, 39:10, 42:26, 42:30, 47:28, 54:22, 55:1
detectives [12] - 14:11, 15:21, 16:29, 18:21, 19:17, 25:21, 25:23, 42:14, 53:22, 63:15, 63:22, 64:13
devising [1] - 34:1died [1] - 9:15difference [4] - 38:1,
38:2, 38:3, 38:4different [11] - 6:22, 8:8,
18:13, 33:20, 40:11, 41:24, 43:5, 44:13, 54:27, 63:6
differently [1] - 40:1difficult [2] - 7:12, 48:23DILLON [9] - 1:3, 1:9,
30:16, 65:29, 66:8, 66:17, 66:21, 66:29, 67:5
direct [1] - 37:25directly [1] - 30:8disclosing [1] - 2:8discounted [1] - 3:5discovery [2] - 23:3,
23:12discussed [1] - 43:13discussion [2] - 44:27,
64:16disengaged [2] - 23:18,
24:7disgrace [2] - 10:10, 11:9disgraceful [2] - 61:13dispute [1] - 62:15disrupting [1] - 37:2distance [1] - 65:13distressed [1] - 38:28ditch [1] - 61:4doctor [1] - 39:14documents [1] - 56:8Dominic [5] - 38:10,
38:15, 38:18, 38:22, 39:11
Donaldson [2] - 34:28, 35:2
done [6] - 27:17, 28:16, 34:17, 34:19, 34:25, 60:9
door [1] - 56:4dot [2] - 45:7, 45:11dots [1] - 45:5double [2] - 46:9, 46:20doubt [3] - 30:24, 36:9,
53:17down [14] - 13:1, 16:11,
19:7, 19:8, 19:27, 21:20, 41:8, 48:5, 48:15, 49:23, 50:10, 55:5, 55:26, 63:12
downstairs [2] - 54:17, 55:18
draw [1] - 50:28drawing [1] - 11:22drink [3] - 36:29, 37:10,
59:11Drogheda [2] - 21:5, 41:9dropped [5] - 9:18, 9:25,
9:26, 9:29, 23:2drove [3] - 21:29, 47:19,
55:30Dublin [6] - 5:7, 22:1,
22:14, 38:22, 40:17, 42:28
Dublin-Belfast [1] - 22:1dump [4] - 22:16, 22:27,
22:29, 23:1dumped [1] - 58:27Dundalk [59] - 1:23, 7:18,
7:28, 8:1, 8:8, 8:14, 8:17, 8:18, 8:19, 8:21, 8:23, 11:12, 11:23, 12:14, 13:14, 13:16,
14:10, 15:27, 16:26, 17:21, 19:13, 19:24, 22:7, 22:15, 22:16, 24:27, 25:3, 25:4, 26:14, 26:15, 26:23, 26:27, 26:29, 27:2, 27:9, 27:11, 27:15, 28:3, 28:5, 28:8, 28:27, 29:3, 29:20, 33:27, 37:13, 39:26, 40:16, 42:14, 42:27, 42:30, 47:14, 53:4, 54:14, 55:1, 63:19, 65:17
during [14] - 1:29, 2:4, 5:21, 11:29, 16:2, 25:18, 34:6, 43:8, 43:24, 44:30, 46:1, 46:28, 49:27, 59:28
duty [8] - 8:9, 16:13, 19:13, 27:7, 33:1, 38:13, 55:25
Eearly [2] - 8:13, 10:19earth [1] - 53:6easiest [1] - 8:28eastern [1] - 55:30easy [3] - 13:1, 34:23,
36:5effect [3] - 14:23, 15:26,
50:30effective [3] - 25:14,
25:18, 25:19effectively [3] - 8:15,
25:17, 66:30efficiencies [1] - 9:14efficiency [2] - 9:6, 9:13efficient [1] - 9:7eight [2] - 26:1, 39:12eighties [8] - 8:13, 9:15,
9:18, 14:21, 23:10, 23:11, 31:7
either [3] - 15:5, 57:26, 58:13
elderly [1] - 22:11element [3] - 3:23, 20:24,
58:26elements [1] - 20:22eleven [10] - 10:17, 10:19,
10:26, 11:9, 62:3, 62:6, 67:9
emerging [1] - 53:16emphasis [3] - 18:13,
57:9, 57:10emphatic [1] - 44:19employment [1] - 14:17en [1] - 21:7encouragement [1] - 9:5end [5] - 9:7, 10:20, 19:6,
19:22, 20:28ended [2] - 65:9, 65:12engaged [3] - 14:27,
57:13, 61:1engagement [1] - 42:5ensure [1] - 34:17ensured [1] - 4:4entire [1] - 17:3
entrance [1] - 55:5environment [1] - 34:24episodes [1] - 47:5equally [1] - 2:29equipment [1] - 22:27escape [2] - 7:25, 50:30escaped [2] - 28:2, 53:11escort [3] - 5:8, 5:11,
55:21escorts [5] - 4:30, 5:3,
5:5, 5:9, 5:10essentially [2] - 26:23,
27:11Europe [1] - 8:5evasive [1] - 50:23evening [4] - 21:1, 21:10,
38:23, 54:30event [4] - 3:18, 15:26,
23:16, 53:29event.. [1] - 52:3events [2] - 33:17, 52:5evidence [55] - 1:4, 2:4,
3:8, 3:15, 5:14, 6:24, 6:27, 12:10, 13:9, 14:15, 15:14, 15:29, 16:24, 19:12, 22:26, 23:24, 24:2, 26:25, 27:10, 28:25, 28:30, 29:9, 29:10, 29:11, 30:3, 30:27, 30:28, 31:2, 31:19, 31:28, 34:4, 34:8, 36:12, 39:27, 41:10, 42:10, 46:14, 47:13, 49:29, 50:20, 51:7, 51:14, 52:21, 52:23, 53:14, 54:13, 55:12, 56:22, 57:27, 58:5, 60:25, 62:11, 63:14, 65:5
evolved [1] - 2:18exactly [10] - 6:16, 8:16,
22:19, 22:22, 24:17, 33:17, 50:20, 52:2, 53:15
examination [4] - 48:22, 57:13, 58:21, 66:13
examine [2] - 1:9, 1:11examined [1] - 62:17EXAMINED [1] - 1:15example [5] - 4:16, 4:28,
9:29, 23:26, 23:29exasperated [1] - 21:9except [1] - 4:3excess [1] - 19:28exchange [2] - 5:22, 44:4exchanges [1] - 43:29excuse [1] - 59:11execute [1] - 39:3exemplary [1] - 54:12expect [3] - 34:15, 36:30,
58:12experience [7] - 6:3,
9:28, 11:19, 11:25, 32:13, 38:27, 45:7
experienced [2] - 21:12, 51:17
expertise [3] - 5:16, 16:23, 25:26
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experts [1] - 19:29expiry [1] - 16:12explain [4] - 29:11, 38:8,
58:16, 58:18explained [1] - 27:5explanation [1] - 28:30explosion [1] - 22:29explosive [2] - 22:16,
22:28explosives [2] - 21:4,
22:9exposed [3] - 31:25, 34:6,
63:30expressed [2] - 52:24,
52:26extensive [6] - 6:7, 7:7,
18:8, 34:4, 34:8, 44:7extent [1] - 41:25extradition [2] - 38:10,
38:23extraordinary [3] - 9:2,
9:8, 9:10extremely [2] - 9:7, 22:5extremes [1] - 48:27
Ff'ers [1] - 24:3face [1] - 13:27fact [12] - 16:15, 28:5,
33:30, 34:15, 42:8, 48:17, 51:21, 52:17, 53:8, 54:25, 59:20, 64:11
factor [1] - 6:16factory [2] - 23:12, 43:6facts [4] - 28:24, 29:12,
53:16, 54:24fail [1] - 36:3failed [5] - 19:4, 20:24,
24:9, 34:9, 60:5failing [1] - 20:14fair [4] - 44:1, 44:3, 45:9,
58:8fall [2] - 37:1, 59:18family [2] - 32:22, 39:6far [2] - 12:14, 33:1farce [2] - 25:22, 26:9farm [4] - 22:4, 22:20,
22:21farmer [1] - 46:25fault [2] - 28:23, 29:2fear [4] - 35:1, 35:29,
52:16, 52:26feared [2] - 34:14, 35:1fearful [1] - 38:24February [1] - 41:12fed [1] - 59:25feed [1] - 60:20feeding [1] - 64:1felt [2] - 3:12, 15:16Fergus [1] - 38:20feverishly [1] - 14:26field [2] - 11:20, 11:24fight [5] - 2:5, 35:8,
37:11, 37:23, 61:28fighting [2] - 35:11, 37:1figure [1] - 14:16
file [2] - 49:6, 50:15filed [1] - 64:12filled [1] - 46:18filling [1] - 45:5final [1] - 65:4finance [1] - 15:3financially [1] - 15:27fine [1] - 35:19finish [2] - 12:28, 64:22finished [2] - 55:3, 65:15Finucane [1] - 34:26fire [1] - 49:16first [8] - 5:24, 7:13,
14:18, 14:20, 14:30, 20:24, 53:12, 62:15
fit [1] - 30:21FITZGERALD [1] - 66:23Fitzgerald [4] - 25:1,
66:21, 66:27, 67:1five [9] - 8:11, 21:1,
33:30, 34:20, 34:21, 36:8, 50:4, 64:24, 64:26
fleet [2] - 27:6, 50:4flow [2] - 20:8, 20:13foe [1] - 11:29following [3] - 52:3, 60:3,
66:8FOLLOWS [3] - 1:1, 1:16,
65:1foot [1] - 45:26force [9] - 20:15, 29:8,
35:13, 35:15, 36:4, 46:13, 46:17, 63:11
forefront [3] - 35:8, 37:11, 37:23
forensic [1] - 58:21form [1] - 61:20formulated [1] - 25:3fortnight [2] - 37:16, 38:6forty [3] - 14:14, 15:7,
15:10four [11] - 8:11, 15:13,
16:20, 24:15, 25:25, 26:6, 36:25, 41:18, 41:28, 65:9, 65:20
four-year [1] - 41:28Francie [2] - 31:11, 35:22fraudsters [1] - 42:6free [1] - 30:29frequently [1] - 31:22friary [1] - 39:12Friday [3] - 21:1, 21:10,
67:5friend [3] - 34:30, 46:23,
54:12Friend [1] - 30:30friends [2] - 49:26frightening [1] - 52:5full [4] - 8:7, 8:9, 54:27,
59:4full-time [2] - 8:7, 8:9fully [3] - 5:12, 50:6, 61:1function [2] - 28:19,
45:21functions [1] - 4:8furthermore [2] - 5:19,
47:23
future [1] - 14:16
Ggap [1] - 41:28Garda [24] - 4:11, 11:16,
12:10, 20:8, 20:13, 21:16, 25:4, 25:16, 26:15, 26:22, 26:23, 26:26, 26:29, 27:6, 27:9, 27:11, 28:27, 29:13, 40:4, 44:23, 46:29, 60:5, 67:1
garda [1] - 2:2Gardaí [3] - 18:12, 27:25,
38:21Garrett [1] - 24:30gate [2] - 55:27, 56:3gates [1] - 56:3gather [2] - 12:16, 52:27gatherer [2] - 10:21,
10:25gathering [5] - 3:28, 10:7,
10:22, 20:23, 28:15general [10] - 25:5, 26:28,
42:3, 57:2, 57:3, 58:3, 63:26, 63:27, 64:6, 64:16
generations [1] - 8:21gentleman [1] - 49:28Gethins [1] - 33:17Giblin [4] - 22:25, 23:20,
23:22, 23:23Gibsons [1] - 9:22gift [1] - 60:4given [20] - 2:4, 3:8, 3:11,
3:14, 6:26, 12:10, 12:15, 12:21, 16:24, 30:3, 31:2, 32:13, 36:12, 46:14, 51:29, 51:30, 62:11, 64:4
glean [5] - 3:8, 3:11, 40:6, 43:1, 43:30
gleaned [4] - 2:21, 18:16, 63:18, 65:19
God [2] - 18:22, 38:7golf [1] - 12:11gossip [4] - 42:3, 42:4,
57:24, 64:8Government [4] - 14:26,
15:2, 15:4, 27:8grade [1] - 21:6grain [1] - 64:9great [5] - 6:5, 7:5, 29:17,
46:19, 46:25greatly [1] - 16:12ground [2] - 15:21, 25:10guard [1] - 35:30guards [5] - 22:11, 43:8,
43:20, 44:30, 45:18guy [1] - 5:25
Hhail [1] - 49:16half [1] - 22:28halt [1] - 23:14handed [1] - 47:11
handicaps [1] - 12:11handle [1] - 8:10handler [1] - 18:27handling [1] - 18:29hang [1] - 55:6Hannas [1] - 9:23happy [2] - 26:14, 59:29hard [3] - 18:28, 43:21,
57:25harder [1] - 22:23Harnden [1] - 41:10Harp [1] - 56:1hassle [2] - 38:9, 42:13haven [2] - 8:20, 64:8hazy [1] - 54:23head [6] - 5:2, 13:1,
26:17, 26:29, 29:3, 29:6headed [1] - 21:13heading [1] - 22:3Headquarters [1] - 40:18health [2] - 6:15, 54:25hear [1] - 12:12heard [6] - 24:15, 37:6,
52:27, 57:26, 65:29, 65:30
heavier [1] - 27:7heavily [1] - 28:21held [1] - 31:17help [4] - 6:18, 26:4,
43:26, 55:16helping [1] - 16:29here' [1] - 47:21Hiace [1] - 33:29high [4] - 10:21, 10:24,
21:6, 49:28High [1] - 38:22high-grade [1] - 21:6high-performance [2] -
10:21, 10:24highly [2] - 47:26, 51:17hijack [2] - 53:2, 53:17hijacking [3] - 50:16,
50:18, 50:20hindsight [2] - 39:29,
40:1hit [2] - 15:27, 27:13hold [2] - 18:30, 19:21holding [1] - 39:11holiday [1] - 22:1home [6] - 8:24, 38:12,
38:16, 39:14, 65:13, 65:21
hope [2] - 1:20, 43:26horrific [1] - 9:27hotel [1] - 41:8hour [4] - 21:18, 66:5,
66:6hours [2] - 21:22, 31:23house [6] - 34:13, 37:18,
38:17, 39:8, 41:7House [2] - 34:29, 35:3houses [3] - 4:22, 8:8,
16:18huge [1] - 8:20human [1] - 60:1hundred [1] - 8:11Hynes [4] - 20:30, 21:11,
21:15, 21:29
Ii.e [1] - 26:6ID [1] - 21:16identify [6] - 31:14, 32:2,
32:14, 32:25, 34:5, 34:9identifying [1] - 17:25identities [1] - 57:30identity [1] - 25:12ignored [1] - 61:14imagine [3] - 36:25, 45:2,
66:4immediate [1] - 3:9immediately [1] - 54:6impeded [2] - 20:7, 20:13impending [1] - 15:18implementation [1] -
27:16imply [1] - 29:1important [12] - 2:29, 3:6,
3:28, 4:2, 7:30, 16:15, 16:16, 17:8, 18:23, 19:12, 44:18, 50:27
impose [1] - 27:4impression [3] - 40:3,
40:6, 40:14incident [8] - 33:18,
33:22, 34:6, 36:16, 47:13, 49:6, 49:8, 51:1
incidentally [2] - 38:11, 49:25
incidents [1] - 33:22incitement [1] - 35:3include [1] - 4:27included [1] - 4:10including [3] - 39:7,
41:23, 43:5incorrect [1] - 35:23increase [5] - 9:6, 9:12,
15:6, 15:7increased [2] - 14:14,
15:9indeed [5] - 1:13, 12:9,
52:16, 66:3, 67:7indicate [2] - 48:17, 51:21indicated [1] - 54:20indiscretions [1] - 58:28indispensable [3] - 6:1,
13:29, 14:19indispensable' [3] - 14:2,
14:4, 14:6individual [6] - 21:10,
21:28, 34:27, 37:15, 49:25, 56:2
individuals [13] - 57:28, 57:30, 58:16, 59:9, 59:13, 59:14, 59:18, 59:24, 60:21, 60:30, 61:6, 63:24, 64:13
ineffective [5] - 26:18, 26:19, 26:20, 28:4, 28:7
influence [1] - 42:30informant [1] - 52:29informants [1] - 57:15information [35] - 3:11,
12:11, 20:3, 20:8,
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20:16, 24:9, 33:21, 33:24, 33:25, 40:12, 43:1, 43:7, 43:29, 43:30, 44:4, 44:6, 44:23, 46:5, 46:15, 51:15, 51:26, 54:9, 56:18, 57:4, 57:11, 57:18, 59:3, 59:7, 59:10, 60:5, 60:15, 61:19, 63:18, 63:22, 64:14
INLA [2] - 39:15, 39:18innocently [1] - 38:12input [1] - 61:5insert [1] - 29:1insignificant [1] - 2:28insisted [1] - 56:14insistence [1] - 24:28inspector [2] - 28:13,
28:20Inspector [1] - 55:24instructions [1] - 44:6insults [1] - 31:10integrity [1] - 31:10intelligence [42] - 2:21,
2:24, 2:26, 2:27, 3:9, 3:28, 3:29, 3:30, 9:11, 10:7, 10:21, 10:22, 10:25, 11:20, 11:24, 12:6, 12:17, 19:24, 19:27, 20:13, 20:23, 21:15, 25:28, 26:9, 28:15, 41:19, 42:17, 43:3, 43:10, 45:22, 45:23, 46:30, 47:1, 57:2, 57:3, 59:2, 59:6, 59:15, 59:21
intelligence-gatherer [2] - 10:21, 10:25
intend [1] - 9:3intent [1] - 3:27interconnecting [1] -
56:4interest [3] - 6:3, 6:6, 7:6interested [4] - 21:19,
40:12, 40:14, 51:5interfere [1] - 37:27interfered [1] - 37:26intermittently [1] - 50:5interpretation [2] - 3:21,
15:19interrogating [1] - 31:20interrogators [2] - 31:24,
31:29interrupt [2] - 30:6, 30:16interview [3] - 21:14,
21:25intimate [1] - 11:16introduce [1] - 14:28introduced [1] - 48:1invariably [2] - 7:30,
44:14investigate [1] - 52:8investigating [1] - 40:20investigation [4] - 15:19,
63:23, 63:26, 63:27involved [6] - 28:15,
35:21, 38:11, 40:20,
50:22, 51:8IRA [12] - 6:8, 7:8, 17:5,
25:5, 26:28, 30:8, 34:5, 34:9, 39:9, 50:6, 56:27, 57:7
Ireland [5] - 4:1, 8:24, 38:19, 45:25, 45:26
Irish [5] - 13:13, 14:22, 15:1, 25:1, 31:8
isolated [1] - 3:24issue [6] - 56:17, 56:21,
56:23, 58:14, 59:13, 65:4
issued [2] - 56:28, 58:6issues [2] - 6:15, 63:25item [1] - 3:4itself [2] - 61:27, 66:4
JJeffrey [1] - 35:2jewel [3] - 5:19, 11:22,
65:18job [4] - 8:7, 13:12, 19:14,
29:18John [5] - 6:2, 11:7,
56:22, 56:26judiciary [2] - 4:1, 45:24JULY [2] - 1:1, 67:11June [2] - 1:23, 1:24jurisdiction [5] - 4:3,
4:21, 4:25, 45:24, 61:3
KKeeley [1] - 34:30keep [4] - 8:10, 13:1,
39:13, 44:23keeping [1] - 44:25kept [3] - 12:3, 16:19,
21:21Kid [1] - 38:26kidnap [2] - 41:16, 41:29kidnapped [4] - 40:2,
40:22, 60:30, 62:26kidnapping [3] - 31:11,
42:21, 42:29kids [2] - 34:22, 39:12kill [1] - 35:3killed [3] - 9:22, 9:23,
33:30Killeen [1] - 9:23Kilnasaggart [2] - 9:24,
11:6kinds [1] - 19:28knocked [1] - 39:8knowing [1] - 40:12knowledge [11] - 4:10,
4:27, 11:16, 12:21, 17:3, 17:8, 17:14, 32:14, 60:19, 61:8, 62:19
known [4] - 4:17, 5:25, 38:18, 42:18
knows [2] - 38:7, 66:9
Llabel [2] - 13:29, 13:30
labouring [1] - 44:21ladder [1] - 2:19lads [1] - 25:30Lager [1] - 56:1Land [1] - 27:7land [1] - 22:5late [5] - 23:7, 31:7,
34:26, 38:9, 39:1law [1] - 46:23laws [1] - 35:15lead [2] - 1:24, 1:29leading [2] - 36:21, 54:21leak [1] - 40:19leaked [1] - 34:30learn [1] - 26:1Learned [1] - 30:30learned [2] - 43:25, 57:17least [2] - 11:6, 56:11leave [12] - 1:27, 14:9,
21:17, 43:8, 44:22, 44:28, 44:30, 46:29, 55:5, 55:21, 65:4
leaving [3] - 3:25, 20:15, 65:17
led [3] - 2:2, 41:30, 56:4left [4] - 21:17, 22:2, 51:4,
55:9less [2] - 21:26, 66:5letting [2] - 19:7, 19:8levels [2] - 9:6, 9:9liable [1] - 50:7life [16] - 3:26, 12:25,
12:30, 18:11, 34:15, 38:29, 48:18, 48:25, 50:27, 51:6, 51:21, 53:11, 53:28, 58:30, 61:20
limb [1] - 3:26line [11] - 5:15, 6:5, 7:5,
11:12, 12:30, 15:1, 47:18, 47:23, 51:10, 54:29, 56:25
lips [1] - 38:25list [2] - 47:10, 47:11listen [1] - 36:3literally [1] - 21:8live [4] - 34:16, 34:20,
34:21, 35:28lived [3] - 16:27, 17:26,
35:5lives [10] - 12:25, 12:26,
13:7, 13:8, 20:18, 20:27, 23:3, 47:6, 48:28, 51:24
living [1] - 36:7load [1] - 21:3local [1] - 39:12locate [1] - 61:2location [4] - 7:19, 22:4,
50:29, 61:2locked [1] - 56:2logging [1] - 33:29logic [2] - 63:3, 63:4lonely [1] - 36:5look [3] - 15:8, 20:24,
24:26looking [2] - 9:30, 28:20
lookout [1] - 22:8looks [1] - 26:13lost [2] - 30:26, 32:27Louth [1] - 46:25lowest [1] - 61:19Lurgangreen [1] - 22:14luxury [1] - 29:29
Mmachine [1] - 41:19machinery [1] - 42:18main [1] - 21:30maintain [1] - 59:27maintained [1] - 19:9major [2] - 6:16, 14:27majority [2] - 4:14, 5:4man [23] - 5:15, 5:24,
13:7, 18:7, 18:9, 20:29, 21:3, 21:24, 22:7, 22:11, 22:17, 23:3, 26:29, 38:13, 38:16, 38:21, 38:26, 38:27, 49:14, 50:23, 53:6, 56:15, 65:19
man's [2] - 50:27, 51:6management [1] - 18:12manned [1] - 28:21manning [1] - 29:7March [1] - 65:6Margaret [2] - 24:29, 27:4Mark [1] - 1:18material [1] - 22:28matter [6] - 13:8, 14:7,
18:15, 30:17, 46:21, 47:3
matters [3] - 4:28, 54:28, 55:2
McAnulty [13] - 11:7, 56:22, 56:26, 57:22, 59:23, 60:4, 60:18, 60:22, 60:24, 60:28, 63:28, 63:29, 64:11
McCabe [2] - 55:23, 55:24McCann [1] - 13:23McCann's [2] - 13:19,
13:25McGlinchey [6] - 38:15,
38:18, 38:22, 39:11, 39:15, 39:18
McGlinchey's [1] - 38:10meal [1] - 38:9mean [10] - 8:29, 16:28,
19:28, 26:30, 49:9, 51:11, 51:28, 53:25, 55:22, 65:30
means [2] - 9:3, 27:22meant [2] - 4:24, 15:6Meath [2] - 22:14, 43:6meet [6] - 3:18, 44:26,
47:15, 54:19, 56:12, 62:26
meeting [8] - 2:9, 3:26, 16:19, 32:13, 42:8, 48:8, 49:27, 52:5
member [12] - 4:3, 18:2, 20:27, 21:17, 35:13, 35:14, 36:21, 45:27,
46:13, 46:17, 52:30, 55:20
members [11] - 3:21, 3:30, 7:30, 17:21, 17:23, 36:20, 50:6, 53:22, 54:1, 56:7, 63:11
membership [1] - 49:10men [5] - 8:29, 22:26,
31:28, 56:9, 65:16men's [1] - 12:26mental [4] - 6:7, 7:7, 34:4,
34:8mentioned [3] - 23:20,
23:22, 38:14met [7] - 41:8, 43:13,
47:14, 47:24, 47:29, 52:30, 54:20
methodology [1] - 2:8mid [3] - 14:21, 23:10,
23:11mid-eighties [3] - 14:21,
23:10, 23:11midst [1] - 36:8might [3] - 44:8, 44:26,
67:5miles [3] - 34:20, 34:21,
36:8military [5] - 14:29, 27:20,
27:22, 28:16military-type [1] - 14:29mind [7] - 6:6, 7:6, 46:22,
53:10, 54:6, 60:19, 63:25
minimise [1] - 62:26minimum [1] - 28:18Minister [1] - 24:30minutes [4] - 55:27,
64:24, 64:26, 65:17misquoting [1] - 28:13misreading [1] - 28:14misrepresentation [1] -
28:23misrepresenting [1] -
29:7mistake [1] - 39:4mixture [2] - 2:12, 2:13models [1] - 27:7moment [2] - 38:26,
64:18Monday [2] - 21:2, 21:10money [1] - 5:9monies [1] - 4:28monitoring [2] - 8:7,
28:11month [6] - 10:19, 10:27,
10:28, 11:1, 25:30, 37:15
months [4] - 10:5, 16:13, 62:3, 62:6
morning [4] - 1:20, 21:2, 21:10, 67:9
mortars [1] - 33:29most [9] - 2:28, 4:2, 6:7,
7:7, 16:15, 18:23, 34:4, 34:8, 50:26
motivate [2] - 5:26, 5:27motivated [1] - 45:25move [5] - 11:29, 31:11,
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47:5, 54:13, 56:21moved [1] - 2:18movement [1] - 47:27movements [1] - 8:11moving [6] - 5:11, 8:8,
8:11, 22:8, 50:5, 61:2MR [29] - 1:3, 1:9, 1:13,
1:15, 1:18, 3:6, 7:2, 7:18, 17:12, 17:14, 17:17, 17:23, 30:6, 30:16, 30:24, 31:6, 64:20, 64:26, 65:3, 65:24, 65:29, 66:3, 66:8, 66:17, 66:19, 66:21, 66:29, 67:3, 67:7
MS [1] - 66:23Mulvenna [1] - 66:29murder [4] - 11:7, 60:18,
60:28, 64:10murdered [6] - 10:15,
46:1, 60:30, 61:9, 65:17, 65:21
murders [3] - 9:25, 11:5, 65:7
must [1] - 18:29
Nnailed [1] - 39:9name [4] - 1:18, 33:26,
34:30, 46:25named [2] - 35:3, 59:9namely [1] - 5:23names [4] - 32:17, 60:20,
61:10, 64:3native [1] - 23:4natural [1] - 8:24near [4] - 27:23, 28:1,
35:6, 35:28nearly [2] - 17:1, 17:21necessarily [2] - 2:23, 5:1necessary [2] - 13:30,
22:27need [7] - 15:24, 30:28,
46:15, 46:17, 63:7, 66:14, 67:5
needed [3] - 45:11, 45:12needs [1] - 59:3never [15] - 4:2, 14:2,
15:18, 15:29, 16:21, 16:22, 19:15, 27:29, 28:17, 36:16, 38:23, 52:10, 52:26, 59:29, 64:12
new [24] - 5:30, 14:11, 14:16, 16:25, 16:26, 16:29, 17:6, 17:15, 17:25, 18:19, 18:20, 18:24, 18:27, 19:4, 20:25, 23:18, 24:11, 24:12, 24:16, 24:18, 24:21, 25:21
Newmarket [1] - 38:20Newmarket-on-Fergus
[1] - 38:20Newry [4] - 20:29, 21:13,
21:14, 34:1news [1] - 65:6
next [7] - 36:23, 36:25, 57:9, 66:1, 66:9, 66:12, 66:30
night [4] - 36:23, 36:25, 38:30, 60:25
nine [2] - 2:2, 39:12nobody [6] - 14:19, 37:4,
37:27, 60:11, 64:3Noel.. [1] - 42:25Nolan [6] - 5:22, 5:24,
6:2, 15:29, 16:22non [2] - 25:18, 25:19non-effective [2] - 25:18,
25:19none [1] - 28:18noon [2] - 66:15, 66:17normal [2] - 10:26, 38:4North [6] - 4:28, 7:25,
16:17, 23:1, 45:26, 60:13
Northern [3] - 4:1, 8:23, 45:25
northern [3] - 8:21, 32:10, 32:11
note [1] - 51:2notes [1] - 51:5nothing [11] - 9:16, 10:7,
13:1, 25:28, 26:10, 29:6, 29:14, 54:2, 58:19, 60:9
notice [1] - 14:20notified [1] - 5:3number [9] - 1:19, 3:15,
6:15, 7:19, 9:10, 9:26, 10:27, 16:30, 62:15
numbers [7] - 9:11, 9:12, 9:13, 15:9, 21:26, 25:24, 51:2
numerous [8] - 6:4, 7:21, 7:22, 11:6, 30:2, 56:28, 57:28, 58:6
OO'CALLAGHAN [3] -
17:12, 17:17, 30:6o'clock [6] - 21:2, 56:10,
64:22, 65:9, 65:20, 67:9O'Dea [1] - 12:15obligation [1] - 29:30obliged [5] - 56:9, 64:26,
65:3, 65:25, 66:19obstruct [1] - 37:4obviated [1] - 56:5occasion [1] - 54:14occasions [5] - 3:15,
30:2, 47:25, 47:29, 52:30
occupants [1] - 49:20OF [1] - 1:1offence [2] - 46:19, 46:25offended [1] - 46:27offensive [2] - 12:23,
12:24offering [1] - 52:19office [2] - 16:20, 54:22officer [4] - 51:15, 51:16,
51:17, 53:29
officer's [1] - 53:10officers [2] - 30:26, 33:30officers' [1] - 47:6often [2] - 5:20, 18:5Oliver [1] - 46:1Oliver's [1] - 46:23ON [1] - 1:1one [42] - 2:8, 3:8, 3:21,
8:3, 10:5, 10:19, 10:22, 10:27, 10:28, 11:1, 11:19, 15:13, 16:11, 18:3, 20:22, 25:12, 25:16, 26:13, 32:2, 33:22, 33:30, 35:15, 36:21, 36:25, 37:1, 38:14, 49:25, 54:30, 56:7, 56:27, 57:8, 57:9, 58:5, 59:29, 64:5, 64:6, 64:18, 64:21, 64:22, 65:4
one-sided [1] - 25:12one-to-one [1] - 18:3ones [1] - 4:25ongoing [12] - 4:11, 7:26,
7:28, 25:3, 25:6, 26:15, 26:26, 27:10, 28:26, 44:27, 52:28, 64:7
open [1] - 55:27operate [2] - 25:19, 27:24operated [1] - 27:15operation [4] - 14:29,
25:15, 28:16, 31:30operations [6] - 4:11,
4:14, 8:5, 8:6, 11:17, 43:4
operator [2] - 21:12opinion [3] - 18:15, 25:9,
52:19opportunity [2] - 13:2,
30:12opted [2] - 19:5, 19:19order [4] - 3:11, 14:1,
45:10, 59:3organisation [2] - 8:4,
30:25organisations [4] - 2:19,
3:22, 7:30, 36:20origin [1] - 5:7otherwise [1] - 49:4output [1] - 11:3outrage [1] - 3:12outside [1] - 56:5outskirts [1] - 22:15overall [2] - 31:30, 44:16overtime [2] - 15:22,
15:23Owen [1] - 39:10OWEN [1] - 1:15own [12] - 5:14, 6:6, 6:24,
7:2, 7:3, 7:6, 9:3, 28:30, 39:8, 41:7, 48:22, 52:20
owned [1] - 23:4owners [3] - 49:23, 50:10,
50:12
Ppage [12] - 5:15, 6:5, 7:5,
12:2, 24:29, 47:17, 47:23, 48:5, 48:15, 51:10, 54:29, 56:25
paid [1] - 32:30paintings [7] - 40:19,
40:21, 40:25, 41:11, 41:14, 41:18, 41:28
panic [1] - 39:13papers [1] - 46:27parcel [2] - 18:3, 58:30pardon [9] - 23:28, 26:5,
33:5, 33:12, 39:24, 43:17, 44:2, 59:5, 62:14
park [1] - 56:15parked [1] - 56:1parliamentary [1] - 34:27part [11] - 2:28, 2:29,
4:10, 18:3, 18:23, 28:16, 42:10, 58:30, 59:10, 63:23, 63:26
particular [7] - 27:28, 30:29, 33:22, 43:12, 45:6, 54:30, 57:9
particulars [1] - 21:30pass [7] - 20:5, 20:6,
20:14, 22:1, 24:9, 43:7, 44:4
passed [4] - 23:5, 43:9, 43:10, 46:4
passing [6] - 17:10, 17:14, 20:7, 20:16, 46:15, 46:30
Pat [1] - 34:26Patrick's [2] - 38:12,
38:30patrols [2] - 29:13, 29:14pedaled [1] - 41:25pending [1] - 55:28people [41] - 3:16, 3:19,
3:27, 3:30, 8:11, 8:22, 12:4, 18:14, 31:14, 34:6, 34:10, 35:2, 36:10, 36:18, 41:24, 43:21, 44:13, 50:22, 51:8, 55:7, 56:7, 57:18, 58:2, 58:8, 58:23, 58:27, 60:8, 60:19, 61:13, 61:18, 61:26, 62:24, 62:25, 63:7, 63:8, 63:10, 63:30
people's [1] - 63:11per [2] - 10:19, 11:1perceived [2] - 6:7, 7:7percent [1] - 11:3perfect [1] - 12:22performance [2] - 10:21,
10:24perhaps [4] - 45:18,
53:24, 53:25, 53:26period [6] - 36:6, 40:18,
43:8, 44:30, 45:29, 45:30
person [10] - 13:30, 18:5, 20:9, 21:28, 32:29, 33:25, 45:25, 63:14, 65:18, 66:8
personal [4] - 6:5, 7:5, 32:21, 46:23
personally [2] - 2:25, 28:10
personnel [10] - 6:8, 7:8, 9:10, 15:6, 15:7, 17:5, 18:13, 31:19, 34:5, 34:9
persons [5] - 5:10, 5:11, 33:20, 56:28, 58:6
phone [1] - 15:1photograph [1] - 39:11photographs [3] - 22:21,
39:7, 39:9pick [3] - 10:14, 32:17picking [3] - 10:13, 29:21,
31:8picture [8] - 43:28, 44:5,
44:16, 44:24, 44:25, 46:18, 59:4, 61:20
piece [2] - 22:5, 59:15pieces [2] - 43:9, 43:10pinpoint [1] - 22:22pinpointed [1] - 64:3pint [4] - 37:22, 37:30,
38:5, 39:27pints [4] - 36:13, 36:23,
36:25, 36:27PIRA [23] - 11:29, 12:22,
29:18, 29:21, 29:22, 31:15, 37:3, 37:26, 37:27, 39:20, 41:19, 41:24, 41:30, 42:17, 49:10, 52:17, 52:30, 53:17, 53:22, 54:1, 61:27, 62:21, 62:27
place [4] - 36:5, 53:12, 55:11, 56:6
placed [2] - 11:24, 50:30places [1] - 16:18planned [4] - 4:16, 4:17,
4:20, 50:21plans [1] - 14:17play [1] - 14:20pleaded [1] - 32:28pleasure [1] - 49:26point [16] - 3:6, 16:16,
17:29, 22:20, 35:28, 39:23, 39:25, 42:29, 44:12, 44:19, 47:20, 48:8, 52:19, 53:8, 64:21, 66:9
pointed [1] - 49:15points [1] - 16:15police [1] - 25:14poor [3] - 38:9, 38:30,
39:6population [1] - 8:21posed [1] - 32:24position [14] - 1:26, 5:23,
7:3, 7:18, 11:12, 12:21, 31:1, 31:4, 34:11, 35:29, 44:14, 49:4, 59:27, 61:13
position-wise [1] - 7:18positions [3] - 36:28,
37:8, 50:30possession [1] - 45:4possible [4] - 12:17,
45:10, 59:16, 64:20possibly [3] - 14:25,
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43:29, 54:1posters [2] - 39:20, 39:21potential [3] - 57:14,
57:15, 61:25poured [2] - 36:13, 38:5pouring [2] - 36:29, 37:10powers [1] - 34:14practically [1] - 23:13precautions [1] - 4:5predecessor [1] - 30:26predominantly [1] - 2:14premises [1] - 50:12Prenty [1] - 24:2present [1] - 56:8presently [1] - 2:25press [1] - 56:9previous [5] - 18:15,
22:7, 47:25, 47:29, 56:13
previously [2] - 21:5, 65:5
price [1] - 32:30Prime [1] - 24:30principles [1] - 49:28priority [1] - 51:6problem [6] - 25:11, 27:2,
27:18, 27:22, 39:30, 41:5
proceed [2] - 66:13, 66:23
process [2] - 24:8, 44:3produced [3] - 11:1,
21:16, 62:20producing [1] - 19:24professional [1] - 12:3prosecute [7] - 36:29,
37:10, 37:19, 37:22, 37:30, 38:6, 39:26
prosecuted [3] - 39:29, 49:8, 49:9
protection [4] - 3:25, 3:30, 20:23, 45:23
prove [1] - 52:12proved [1] - 52:11provide [7] - 15:3, 32:20,
33:14, 33:16, 35:20, 60:4, 63:15
provided [2] - 44:22, 61:19
providing [4] - 20:25, 32:21, 32:25, 34:18
provisional [1] - 27:27Provo [1] - 30:11Provos [1] - 54:21PSNI [3] - 1:19, 30:7, 30:9public [1] - 56:7publicity [1] - 46:26pure [1] - 49:3purpose [1] - 37:14pursuit [1] - 12:16pushed [1] - 22:23put [26] - 9:30, 11:9,
12:30, 19:27, 21:18, 21:23, 22:24, 27:7, 27:18, 30:7, 30:8, 30:11, 30:17, 39:20, 39:21, 41:23, 43:28, 44:4, 51:28, 56:25,
59:21, 60:3, 60:29, 61:10, 61:12
putting [1] - 45:26puzzling [1] - 32:19
Qqualities [1] - 6:4quality [6] - 8:29, 9:13,
9:14, 15:3, 19:29, 25:24quantity [1] - 19:30quell [1] - 25:11questioning [2] - 31:5,
49:1questions [11] - 1:19,
17:27, 17:28, 29:29, 30:17, 30:21, 44:29, 45:2, 56:25, 60:3, 65:24
quick [2] - 7:25, 49:14quicker [1] - 37:2quickly [1] - 51:4quite [4] - 5:20, 8:24,
10:27, 15:24quotation [1] - 5:21quote [2] - 5:14, 5:19
Rradio [1] - 38:25raise [1] - 18:24ran [1] - 27:2rang [3] - 21:9, 41:7,
55:23range [1] - 4:16rank [3] - 18:8, 38:13,
38:16rationale [2] - 32:20,
36:22reaction [2] - 48:20,
51:23read [4] - 5:21, 7:12, 14:5,
51:19readily [1] - 3:5ready [8] - 1:11, 39:1,
66:9, 66:14, 66:21, 66:23, 67:3
realise [4] - 12:5, 34:21, 60:6
reality [3] - 25:13, 26:28, 35:24
really [3] - 13:4, 26:17, 66:10
reason [8] - 28:1, 33:3, 33:6, 33:7, 33:16, 35:20, 50:22, 56:5
reasonings [1] - 26:13reasons [1] - 8:1recalling [1] - 52:10receive [1] - 46:27received [1] - 63:17receiving [1] - 47:1recent [1] - 33:27reception [2] - 54:21,
56:6recognise [2] - 32:4, 32:8recognised [2] - 47:19,
48:12recollection [3] - 34:14,
54:28, 55:14reconcile [4] - 36:28,
37:8, 37:21, 61:27reconstruct [1] - 49:13record [2] - 7:9, 58:15recovery [3] - 40:18,
40:20, 40:25recurring [1] - 3:18redacted [1] - 52:24refer [1] - 52:25reflection [1] - 59:29reflects [2] - 10:20, 10:24refused [1] - 20:30refusing [1] - 20:25regard [1] - 25:11regarded [2] - 48:19,
51:22regarding [4] - 5:22,
56:26, 60:4, 66:3regards [1] - 36:13regime [19] - 5:30, 16:26,
17:6, 17:15, 17:25, 18:1, 18:5, 18:19, 18:25, 19:4, 20:26, 23:18, 24:11, 24:12, 24:16, 24:18, 24:21, 25:21
regime's [1] - 14:16regimes [1] - 18:4region [1] - 36:9register [1] - 62:22registered [2] - 59:24,
62:28registration [1] - 51:2regret [1] - 38:29regulations [2] - 35:16,
35:17relating [1] - 53:15relation [9] - 2:19, 4:7,
11:25, 17:25, 25:3, 41:10, 43:5, 44:12, 49:6
relevant [1] - 18:6relying [1] - 51:26remained [1] - 55:17remember [12] - 6:17,
6:26, 6:29, 7:16, 28:19, 31:26, 33:8, 52:9, 53:8, 54:26, 55:15
remind [2] - 36:10, 40:22reminded [1] - 30:2rendezvous [4] - 47:20,
48:11, 52:17, 53:30reorganisation [1] -
14:27repeat [2] - 7:4, 34:7replied [1] - 5:23report [3] - 2:29, 50:15,
50:25represent [1] - 30:25represented [1] - 26:28Republican [1] - 47:27reputation [2] - 27:14,
38:24requirements [1] - 15:16requires [2] - 59:6, 59:15resignation [1] - 41:6respect [8] - 16:6, 23:26,
23:29, 24:8, 24:10,
32:29, 33:2, 63:17respectable [1] - 46:24responding [1] - 30:12response [2] - 53:20,
61:16responsible [1] - 34:18rest [2] - 13:27, 38:29result [3] - 25:2, 34:26,
49:8resultant [1] - 46:26results [3] - 9:2, 9:8, 25:8RESUMED [2] - 1:1, 65:1retained [1] - 19:6retire [1] - 36:4retired [2] - 41:12, 44:22retirement [3] - 43:16,
43:18, 45:15retiring [1] - 20:15return [1] - 3:7returned [1] - 8:6review [2] - 24:7, 58:15rightly [1] - 35:19ring [1] - 6:20rings [1] - 36:12ripe [3] - 29:17, 29:21,
31:8rise [2] - 64:21, 64:24risk [18] - 3:23, 32:24,
51:15, 51:16, 53:12, 56:19, 58:23, 58:25, 60:8, 60:19, 60:21, 60:24, 60:26, 61:13, 61:14, 62:26, 63:5, 63:30
risking [1] - 3:26risks [2] - 58:25road [3] - 22:1, 27:28,
27:29roaming [1] - 54:1Robinson [27] - 1:5, 1:7,
1:18, 3:24, 6:18, 25:13, 28:14, 29:13, 30:17, 30:20, 31:5, 34:7, 34:20, 36:5, 40:1, 41:6, 46:13, 49:13, 51:11, 51:12, 52:20, 53:27, 55:16, 59:12, 61:15, 65:30, 66:9
ROBINSON [16] - 1:13, 1:15, 1:18, 3:6, 7:2, 7:18, 17:14, 17:23, 30:24, 31:6, 64:20, 64:26, 65:3, 65:24, 66:3, 66:19
role [2] - 15:27, 19:13roles [1] - 4:8roof [2] - 33:23, 33:28room [4] - 21:14, 21:17,
21:26roots [1] - 8:23roughly [1] - 50:4round [1] - 33:19route [1] - 21:7Rovers [1] - 27:7RUC [36] - 4:1, 4:3, 12:26,
13:7, 13:8, 20:29, 20:30, 21:1, 21:4, 21:9, 21:13, 21:17, 21:24,
22:17, 24:28, 25:3, 25:6, 25:9, 26:14, 26:26, 27:1, 27:10, 27:23, 28:17, 28:26, 29:1, 34:1, 45:23, 45:24, 49:27, 53:29, 55:20, 55:23, 60:12, 60:13, 65:16
RUC's [1] - 12:26rules [1] - 35:16rumour [1] - 64:8rumours [6] - 40:16,
41:23, 41:25, 41:26, 41:29, 58:3
running [2] - 25:25, 26:7runs' [2] - 7:19, 32:14
Ssafety [2] - 4:5, 32:21salt [1] - 64:9save [1] - 20:18saved [11] - 12:26, 13:8,
20:27, 47:5, 48:25, 48:28, 50:27, 51:23, 53:10, 53:28
saving [2] - 12:25, 13:6saviour [1] - 51:5saw [3] - 11:5, 34:25,
50:20scared [1] - 52:18scene [1] - 51:4SDU [1] - 5:8Sean [2] - 33:17, 41:9search [2] - 44:7, 50:12searches [5] - 4:16, 4:17,
4:20, 4:21, 4:22second [1] - 21:27section [2] - 4:19, 29:8security [3] - 4:27, 35:12,
45:26see [23] - 8:27, 16:20,
16:21, 24:20, 24:26, 32:19, 37:30, 38:2, 38:3, 38:4, 38:27, 41:5, 41:8, 50:3, 50:7, 50:8, 54:17, 54:20, 55:1, 55:4, 57:7, 58:14, 61:21
seeing [1] - 39:13seem [1] - 58:20segregate [1] - 58:11sentenced [1] - 37:15sequence [3] - 33:17,
38:8, 54:18sequencing [1] - 57:16Sergeant [7] - 29:3, 29:6,
39:10, 47:28, 48:6, 48:25, 55:1
sergeant [1] - 55:26sergeants [1] - 16:30serious [1] - 53:29served [2] - 16:10, 24:11service [3] - 13:6, 20:22,
45:26serving [1] - 37:14session [1] - 65:5set [1] - 52:11settled [1] - 8:21
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setup [1] - 49:2seven [2] - 22:10, 26:1seventies [5] - 8:12, 9:17,
9:21, 9:27several [2] - 8:21, 43:4share [2] - 63:21, 64:14shift [2] - 65:9, 65:11shoot [1] - 49:16shootout [1] - 38:21short [2] - 65:13, 66:30shot [1] - 58:27shots [1] - 30:4show [2] - 22:24, 37:13showed [3] - 16:14,
16:17, 22:19showing [2] - 16:26,
21:20shown [1] - 47:10sick [6] - 1:27, 10:20,
43:8, 44:22, 44:30, 46:29
side [4] - 25:16, 27:8, 55:30, 56:1
sided [1] - 25:12sides [1] - 25:12sight [1] - 32:5signed [2] - 13:13, 25:1similar [2] - 38:13, 38:16similarly [1] - 8:6simple [1] - 27:20simply [2] - 31:1, 46:28Siochana [6] - 11:16,
20:8, 20:13, 40:4, 46:30, 60:5
sits [1] - 61:29sitting [2] - 38:12, 38:16situation [10] - 7:10, 18:1,
26:4, 26:6, 27:21, 28:14, 38:5, 51:28, 56:12, 57:7
six [7] - 22:10, 26:1, 31:27, 33:30, 42:21, 50:4
sizable [1] - 10:27size [2] - 22:20, 22:22skeleton [1] - 21:30skills [2] - 11:19, 11:25slowed [1] - 23:17small [3] - 8:10, 10:8,
44:15snippet [2] - 59:3, 59:6socially [2] - 38:30, 44:26solely [1] - 63:12solve [2] - 27:17, 27:21solved [1] - 39:30someone [1] - 36:29sometime [1] - 66:17sometimes [1] - 2:23somewhere [1] - 22:13sorry [7] - 6:18, 9:18,
19:16, 30:6, 30:16, 59:11, 59:14
sort [1] - 51:1source [33] - 3:1, 12:19,
12:22, 13:4, 18:23, 18:24, 18:28, 19:7, 19:16, 20:6, 20:7,
29:17, 29:21, 29:22, 30:8, 30:11, 31:9, 43:30, 46:5, 47:15, 47:24, 47:30, 48:2, 48:9, 49:2, 52:6, 52:10, 53:30, 54:9, 56:18, 58:20, 64:14
sources [26] - 2:9, 2:15, 2:18, 3:10, 3:14, 18:16, 18:17, 18:20, 19:2, 19:9, 19:22, 20:3, 20:14, 20:25, 24:9, 43:25, 44:6, 57:6, 57:18, 58:9, 61:23, 61:25, 63:15, 63:18, 63:21, 65:19
South [1] - 4:28south [4] - 32:16, 36:8,
36:9, 36:10speaking [2] - 5:22, 47:9Special [1] - 5:8speciality [1] - 45:21specific [1] - 64:2spectacular [1] - 25:8speculating [2] - 6:23,
8:2speculation [4] - 49:3,
62:29, 63:1, 63:4spend [1] - 2:9spent [6] - 3:29, 12:25,
12:30, 13:6, 19:2, 43:20spilled [1] - 39:27spotted [1] - 48:11St [2] - 38:12, 38:30staffed [1] - 50:6stage [8] - 9:14, 21:15,
30:10, 38:14, 38:19, 40:13, 52:10
stairs [2] - 56:4, 56:5standing [1] - 7:16start [1] - 1:22starting [1] - 66:25State [1] - 45:27state [1] - 54:25statement [12] - 12:23,
32:20, 32:21, 32:25, 32:28, 33:14, 34:19, 34:28, 35:21, 35:25, 35:26, 35:27
Station [2] - 54:15, 65:17station [14] - 20:29,
33:20, 34:1, 53:21, 54:3, 54:19, 54:22, 55:6, 55:21, 55:23, 56:1, 65:6, 65:14
stationed [2] - 1:23, 21:5stations [1] - 28:21stayed [2] - 8:4, 16:12step [2] - 25:20, 50:12steps [3] - 16:24, 50:10,
52:8stick [1] - 54:6sticks [1] - 53:10still [5] - 10:28, 15:22,
40:4, 41:19, 61:10stolen [5] - 40:26, 40:30,
41:2, 41:3, 41:11stop [2] - 35:11, 36:2
stopped [2] - 8:1, 8:4stopping [1] - 22:9stories [1] - 64:8storing [1] - 21:7strategic [1] - 50:30strategy [1] - 57:8stray [1] - 16:17street [1] - 45:10stroke [1] - 45:12strongly [1] - 45:25stuff [3] - 21:7, 22:9,
57:12subject [2] - 42:4, 61:26submitted [4] - 20:1,
41:5, 62:6, 62:18submitting [1] - 62:20subordinates [1] - 5:27subversive [5] - 3:22,
9:15, 9:18, 36:20, 47:15subversives [14] - 2:5,
4:22, 7:24, 16:27, 17:25, 28:2, 35:9, 37:1, 37:12, 39:25, 48:13, 49:30, 50:9, 61:28
success [1] - 9:10suddenly [1] - 21:24suffered [4] - 37:4, 39:4,
39:6suggest [8] - 2:17, 29:20,
29:23, 31:6, 35:19, 42:11, 44:3, 58:8
suggested [1] - 29:16suggesting [2] - 5:4, 20:2suggestion [4] - 21:19,
41:21, 41:22, 46:19suits [1] - 35:17summing [1] - 51:27summing-up [1] - 51:27sundry [2] - 6:8, 7:8Superintendent [5] -
5:22, 15:18, 16:9, 16:10, 22:25
superintendent [4] - 15:6, 15:8, 28:12, 28:20
superintendents [1] - 24:14
superiors [2] - 16:8, 16:25
supply [1] - 15:3suppose [1] - 39:29surely [2] - 37:25, 53:20surplus [1] - 15:16surprise [1] - 52:26surrounding [2] - 29:12,
56:22surveillance [2] - 22:6,
22:12suspected [1] - 21:7suspects' [1] - 16:18suspicion [2] - 56:29,
57:12sustained [1] - 23:14swarm [1] - 8:17sweeping [3] - 13:13,
24:27, 25:2sympathiser [1] - 21:6system [13] - 27:5, 43:21,
59:3, 59:6, 59:10, 59:15, 59:21, 59:25, 60:20, 60:29, 61:5, 61:10, 64:1
systems [1] - 17:7
TTaoiseach [1] - 25:1tap [1] - 3:10tapered [3] - 9:20, 15:24task [1] - 29:8tasks [2] - 4:2, 41:30taxing [1] - 8:9team [5] - 2:2, 8:8, 8:10,
26:17, 26:18television [1] - 38:25ten [4] - 14:14, 15:7,
15:10, 26:1tenure [2] - 35:12, 56:13terrorism [4] - 25:5,
26:16, 26:27, 28:28terrorist [1] - 38:19Terry [1] - 20:30test [3] - 30:27, 30:28,
30:29testing [3] - 31:1, 52:21,
52:23Thatcher [2] - 24:30, 27:4THE [4] - 1:1, 65:1, 67:11theirs [1] - 24:23themselves [1] - 31:14there'd [1] - 36:23there'll [1] - 44:10thereafter [1] - 66:17therefore [2] - 20:7, 59:9thinks [1] - 30:21threat [7] - 56:28, 57:19,
58:6, 59:23, 61:9, 64:6, 64:13
threats [18] - 57:28, 58:15, 59:9, 59:13, 59:14, 59:18, 59:25, 60:29, 61:5, 61:26, 62:22, 62:27, 63:22, 63:24, 64:1, 64:2, 64:12, 64:16
three [14] - 8:4, 10:3, 10:5, 10:10, 16:20, 22:28, 36:23, 38:7, 39:7, 39:9, 47:19, 54:1
three-and-a-half [1] - 22:28
three-by-three [2] - 39:7, 39:9
throughout [4] - 5:26, 14:26, 35:8, 58:16
thrown [2] - 13:26, 37:22thwarted [1] - 43:4Tiernan [3] - 31:12,
35:22, 42:8ties [1] - 61:18time-wise [1] - 41:11Toby [1] - 41:10today [3] - 1:3, 50:24,
65:24today" [1] - 65:30today's [1] - 65:4
Tom [1] - 46:1tonnes [1] - 22:28took [12] - 5:10, 6:5, 7:5,
8:22, 14:22, 15:4, 16:25, 24:11, 28:9, 38:8, 47:15, 55:23
top [2] - 45:8, 51:6topic [1] - 66:3total [2] - 11:3, 31:24totality [5] - 6:7, 7:7,
17:5, 34:4, 34:9totally [6] - 28:23, 34:14,
35:23, 38:11, 38:12, 51:26
touch [2] - 35:13, 35:14tour [1] - 16:13towards [1] - 9:6trace [1] - 8:23track [4] - 49:18, 49:20,
49:23, 50:10traffic [2] - 7:27, 27:6train [3] - 16:29, 25:23,
25:30transaction [1] - 35:22transcript [1] - 14:8transfer [2] - 4:28, 19:4transferred [1] - 19:16transferring [1] - 18:20trap [1] - 47:20traumatised [1] - 34:12travelled [3] - 27:29,
47:14, 47:17travelling [1] - 7:27treason [1] - 39:10treated [3] - 24:20, 58:22TRIBUNAL [3] - 1:1, 65:1,
67:11Tribunal [11] - 3:8, 13:28,
23:24, 30:26, 36:30, 45:1, 45:18, 47:3, 51:12, 53:14, 56:26
trick [2] - 44:29, 45:2trickle [4] - 9:16, 9:19,
23:2, 23:17tried [1] - 27:4trip [1] - 8:15troops [1] - 25:10true [3] - 6:20, 6:30, 7:10trumpet [1] - 9:3truth [1] - 26:16try [3] - 7:4, 53:22, 62:26trying [7] - 8:10, 29:11,
41:27, 44:17, 45:9, 49:13, 61:1
Ts [1] - 45:8turbulent [1] - 49:27turn [4] - 2:7, 22:2, 34:24,
52:5turned [4] - 22:6, 22:18,
38:28, 39:2twice [1] - 48:1two [17] - 4:1, 8:4, 20:22,
21:13, 25:12, 30:26, 31:18, 32:1, 37:8, 39:11, 45:10, 48:11, 52:30, 54:1, 54:21, 56:9, 65:16
two-way [1] - 45:10
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type [4] - 8:29, 9:11, 14:29, 50:8
types [1] - 14:17
UUK [2] - 7:29, 8:5under [5] - 40:14, 56:29,
57:12, 57:18, 64:13undercover [4] - 40:4,
40:15, 41:20, 42:1undermanned [3] - 8:26,
8:27, 8:28undertaken [1] - 4:18undisputed [1] - 5:26unfair [1] - 34:14unfortunately [2] - 3:27,
23:5uniform [2] - 4:18, 28:17unit [3] - 9:1, 9:7, 12:3Unit [1] - 5:8units [2] - 25:25, 26:7unofficially [1] - 4:5unsure [1] - 30:9UNTIL [1] - 67:11up [43] - 2:18, 5:26, 6:6,
7:6, 12:5, 13:9, 13:26, 15:10, 16:4, 19:2, 19:29, 20:9, 20:17, 20:29, 21:13, 21:26, 21:29, 21:30, 22:5, 22:18, 23:14, 23:17, 25:16, 25:17, 27:23, 27:28, 32:17, 38:16, 38:21, 39:3, 39:8, 39:9, 39:20, 39:21, 43:16, 43:18, 51:27, 52:11, 54:22, 55:6, 56:3, 56:4
upstairs [2] - 55:17, 56:15
urban [1] - 34:23utmost [1] - 33:2utter [2] - 24:18, 24:21utterly [1] - 61:13
Vvaluable [2] - 20:3, 22:5valued [1] - 2:26vampire's [1] - 24:24van [1] - 33:22vans [2] - 33:28, 33:29varied [1] - 2:24various [4] - 8:1, 43:13,
58:25, 58:28vast [2] - 4:14, 5:4vehicle [1] - 50:8vehicles [11] - 47:19,
49:18, 49:21, 49:24, 49:29, 50:9, 50:10, 50:13, 50:29, 51:3, 54:2
version [1] - 42:12vicinity [2] - 48:7, 48:12view [6] - 2:30, 7:2,
27:17, 34:28, 54:25, 61:18
views [1] - 16:22VIP [2] - 5:10, 5:11
VIPs [1] - 20:23visibly [1] - 38:28visit [2] - 3:16, 54:14visiting [1] - 46:24vital [1] - 24:9vocabulary [1] - 4:2voice [1] - 32:2voices [2] - 32:8, 32:15volunteer [1] - 17:30vulnerable [1] - 35:18
Wwait [1] - 55:3waited [1] - 55:8walk [1] - 43:21walked [1] - 65:13walks [1] - 18:11wall [1] - 39:8warn [1] - 63:7warned [2] - 62:24, 63:5warning [2] - 63:8, 63:10warrant [2] - 38:23, 39:3wary [2] - 62:25WAS [1] - 1:15Wednesday [4] - 64:22,
66:12, 67:3, 67:9WEDNESDAY [1] - 67:11week [2] - 16:21, 25:30weekly [2] - 21:8, 23:14weeks [2] - 27:27, 38:7well-known [1] - 5:25well.. [1] - 15:15whatnot [6] - 3:25, 22:11,
22:21, 44:27, 58:27whilst [2] - 31:30, 55:17white [1] - 53:27whole [6] - 3:29, 5:16,
13:6, 18:23, 31:30, 34:30
wholesale [1] - 57:13wife [6] - 32:27, 33:4,
34:22, 38:9, 39:1wild [1] - 63:4willing [2] - 13:29, 13:30win [2] - 5:30, 14:1wise [4] - 7:18, 27:13,
41:11, 55:10wish [1] - 33:24wished [3] - 14:30, 15:2,
33:23wishes [1] - 65:30witness [7] - 17:17, 30:7,
30:11, 30:29, 31:2, 41:24, 47:11
Witness [8] - 47:8, 47:13, 52:26, 54:10, 54:13, 54:14, 55:17, 56:19
witnesses [2] - 3:7, 30:27wonder [2] - 64:20, 66:21word [5] - 14:2, 57:14,
65:20, 65:29, 65:30words [2] - 44:11, 50:29workings [1] - 18:6world [1] - 32:29worth [2] - 7:15, 9:16written [1] - 35:15
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Yyard [3] - 55:30, 56:14,
56:16yeah.. [3] - 10:4, 10:18,
20:12year [8] - 10:14, 10:20,
11:5, 23:6, 40:22, 41:28, 57:8
years [27] - 1:29, 2:4, 2:18, 2:21, 10:13, 13:16, 16:25, 18:8, 18:16, 19:2, 19:25, 22:7, 22:30, 26:2, 36:6, 41:18, 42:4, 42:21, 46:24, 54:11, 56:13, 57:6, 57:10, 58:27, 63:19, 65:19
yes.. [5] - 11:8, 13:21, 20:19, 52:4, 58:7
yesterday [1] - 44:15young [1] - 34:22yourself [3] - 3:26, 13:29,
13:30