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    F I L E DElectronically

    CODE: 4185 05-09-2012:09:42:24 AM

    LORIURMSTON,CCR#51 Joey Orduna Hastings

    PeggyHoogs&Associates Clerk of the Court435MarshAvenue Transaction # 2941159Reno,Nevada 89509

    (775)3274460

    CourtReporter

    SECONDJUDICIALDISTRICTCOURTOFTHESTATEOFNEVADA

    INANDFORTHECOUNTYOFWASHOE

    HONORABLESTEVENP.ELLIOTT,DISTRICTJUDGE

    STATEOFNEVADA,

    Plaintiff,

    CaseNo.CR120376

    vs.

    Dept.No.10

    ZACHARYBARKERCOUGHLIN,

    Defendant.

    _____________________________/

    TRANSCRIPTOFPROCEEDINGS

    REPORT PSYCHIATRICEVALUATION

    APRIL19,2012;THURSDAY

    RENO,NEVADA

    Reportedby: LORIURMSTON,CCR#51

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    ForthePlaintiff:

    FortheDefendant:

    FortheDepartmentof

    Parole&Probation:

    APPEARANCES:

    ZACHYOUNG

    DeputyDistrictAttorney

    1SouthSierraStreet

    SouthTower,4thFloor

    P.O.Box30083

    Reno,Nevada 89520

    BIRAYDOGAN

    DeputyPublicDefender

    350S.CenterStreet

    P.O.Box30083

    Reno,Nevada 89520

    GAILFALCONER

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    RENO,NEVADA;THURSDAY,APRIL19,2012;10:20A.M.

    o0o-

    THECOURT: Andthenthelastthingwe'regoingto

    takebeforearecesswillbetheZacharyCoughlin.

    MR.YOUNG: Goodmorning,YourHonor.

    MR.DOGAN: YourHonor,BirayDoganonbehalfof

    Mr. Coughlinwhoispresenttodayandoutofcustody.

    THEDEFENDANT: Goodmorning,YourHonor.

    THECOURT: Allright. Thenthismatterishereon

    areportofpsychiatricevaluation. Thereisaletter

    herefromSallyFarmerandBillDavis. Andhaveyou

    receivedthis,Mr.Dogan?

    MR.DOGAN: YourHonor,canIhavetheCourt's

    indulgence?

    MR.YOUNG: YourHonor,canweapproach?

    THECOURT: Yes.

    (Adiscussionwasheldofftherecord.)

    THECOURT: Well,asaresultofthehearinghere

    atthebench,theCoughlinmatterwillbecontinuedto

    theendofourdocketsothatwecantakearecessnow.

    Andtheendofthedocketmeansthatitwouldbeafter

    the10o'clockmatter,becauseit'salready25after

    10:00orso,andweneedtogetonwithanothermatter

    inthatwehavealotofpeoplehere.

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    Allright. Socourtwillstandinrecess.

    (Arecesswastakenandthefollowing

    proceedingswerehadat10:45a.m.:)

    THECOURT: Asournextcasethen,we'llgobackto

    the8:30docket,andlet'stakeZacharyCoughlinagain.

    Let'sseeifwecanconcludethatmatter.

    MR.YOUNG: Goodmorning,YourHonor.

    THEDEFENDANT: Goodmorning,YourHonor.

    THECOURT: Andthenwe'reheretodiscussthe

    letterofApril17thatwassentoutreallyto

    Mr.DoganwithcopiestomeandMr.YoungfromSally

    FarmerandBillDaviswhoarepsychologistsatthe

    LakesCrossingCenter.

    And,Mr.Dogan,doyouwanttoexplainthis?

    MR.DOGAN: Yes,YourHonor.

    THEDEFENDANT: I'msorry,YourHonor,ifIcan

    interjectquickly.

    THECOURT: I'maskingMr.Dogantostart.

    THEDEFENDANT: Yes,YourHonor,butbeforeheputs

    anythingontherecord,I'mgoingtoasktohavehim

    withdrawnor-

    MR.DOGAN: Thatwouldbeaseparatematter.

    THECOURT: I'llgowithMr.Dogan.

    THEDEFENDANT: Thankyou,YourHonor.

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    MR.DOGAN: YourHonor,ifanyissuesareraised

    regardingamotiontowithdraworanythingdealingwith

    myrepresentationofMr.Coughlin,thatwouldbea

    separatehearing. ThathearingwillbeunderYoung

    versusState. Todaywearehereforonematter,and

    thatistheSB89regardingmyclient'scompetencyand

    whetherhe'sfittoproceedwithadjudication.

    YourHonor,I'mgoingtoberequestingashort

    twoweekcontinuanceinthiscasesothatmyclientcan

    beevaluatedbyLakesCrossing,bybothSallyFarmer

    andDr.Davis.

    Myclienthasdoneallhecandotomakehis

    scheduledappointmentswithbothofthedoctorsinthis

    matter. Andtherehavebeensomesignificant

    difficultieswithMr.Coughlinbeingevaluatedbyboth

    ofthosedoctors. However,Ibelievethose

    difficultieswillbeableto we'llironthemoutand

    we'llbeabletogetthatcompetencyevaluationforthe

    Courtwithintwoweeks.

    THECOURT: Soyou'reinessencetellingmethat

    youbelieveatthispointintimethatyourclientis

    willingtocooperatewithanevaluator?

    MR.DOGAN: Ido,YourHonor. YourHonor,the

    reasonisbecausetheCourthasnever we'venever

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    appearedincourt. AndifYourHonororders

    Mr.Coughlintocooperateandtoobtainthe

    evaluations,bythenweshouldbeabletohavethose

    evaluationsforCourt.

    TheonethingthatIwanttopreventinthiscase

    isMr.Coughlinbeingremandedintothecustodyofthe

    WashoeCountySheriffsothathecanbeevaluatedwhile

    he'sattheWashoeCountyJail. That'sahugeconcern

    ofmine. AndIdonotwantMr.Coughlintoberemanded

    tothecustodyoftheSheriff.

    YourHonor,themainreasonisbecauseMr.Coughlin

    isalicensedattorney. Hedoeshaveclientsandhe's

    representingthoseclients. Ifheisremandedintothe

    custodyoftheSheriff,hewillnotbeabletopursue

    thelitigationthathemustwhilerepresentingthose

    individuals,andhislivelihood itwillsignificantly

    impacthislivelihood. And,therefore,I'mgoingto

    makethatrequest,thatthismatterbecontinued

    brieflyfortwoweeks,YourHonor.

    THECOURT: Well,clearlyifhe'snotgoingto

    cooperateoutofcustody,puttinghimintocustody,you

    know,andforciblycooperatingisthealternative,so

    ithastobeconsidered.

    And,Mr.Young,whatistheState'sposition?

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    MR.YOUNG: YourHonor,IthinkMr.Dogan

    accuratelystatedthatessentiallyyourtwo

    alternativesatthispointarejusttocontinuethe

    matteroutafewweekstogiveMr.Coughlinan

    opportunitytobeevaluatedoralternativelyremandhim

    intocustodywhere,asyoustated,itwouldmoreor

    lessseekto thattheevaluationstakeplace.

    I'mgoingtorespectfullyaskthatyoufollowthe

    latterofthosetwoalternatives. AndifIcouldtake

    aminutetoexplainwhyI'mmakingthatrecommendation.

    Hewasreleasedforthiscaseona1,500dollar

    bondthatheposted. Andobviously,oneofthe

    conditionsofsomebodybeingreleased,whetherit's

    bond,ORorotherwise,isconditioneduponthat

    individual'sgoodbehavior. Andwhatwehavehereis

    anindividualwho Thecompetencyevaluationwas

    filedinJusticeCourtFebruary27th. Thematterwas

    settomyknowledgeforApril3rdinfrontofYour

    Honorfortheevaluation.

    Therewastherequest,albeitdonebyemailby

    Mr.Coughlininhispersonalcapacity,butafter

    speakingwiththecourtstaffandMr.Dogan,Iagreed

    tocontinuethatouttogiveMr.Coughlinthe

    opportunitytogethisevaluationsdone.

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    Wethengoforwardtotoday. AndYourHonorhas

    alreadyreferencedtheletterwhichtalksabout

    threateninglegalactionagainstoneoftheevaluators,

    showinguplatetothescheduledappointment,taking

    additionaltimeto-

    THEDEFENDANT: Object,YourHonor;hearsay.

    THECOURT: Overruled.

    THEDEFENDANT: Movetostrike.

    THECOURT: You'renotinapositiontoobjectto

    anything.

    THEDEFENDANT: Iunderstandthat,YourHonor.

    Respectfully,Isubmitthatratherthanhaving

    handcuffsonme,byhavingMr.Doganasmyattorney,I

    wouldaskthatIbeallowedtorepresentmyself.

    THECOURT: You'reinapositionwhere,youknow,

    ifyouinterruptandcausetrouble,you'regoingtobe

    takenintocustodyandthenforcibly,youknow,given

    theseevaluations,soifIwereyou,Iwouldsimply

    cooperatewithusanddon'tcauseaproblem.

    Allright. Mr.Young,youmayproceed.

    MR.YOUNG: YourHonor,aftershowingup20minutes

    lateaccordingtotheletter,whichisonfilewiththe

    court,hetakesanadditionaltenminutesarguingwith

    securitypersonnelandbasicallybeingcompletely

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    disruptivetotheprocess.

    Theironicthingaboutthisisthatthisevaluation

    isentirelyforMr.Coughlin'sbenefit. Thethreshold

    questionis: Ishecompetenttostandtrial? Buteven

    ifhe's iftheevaluationscomebackthatheis

    competent,hisattorneycanusethattohisbenefit

    withwhat'scontainedintheevaluationsforany

    potentialnegotiationpurposes,sentencing,shouldwe

    gettothatpoint,andthelike.

    Andsothroughtheactionsofthedefendant,notto

    mentionhispreviousstatementsthat,one,hedoesn't

    evenwanttogetevaluatedforcompetency,andthen

    subsequenttothathavingaproblemhavingLakes

    Crossingdothat,ataminimum,hisactionsarenot

    evidencinggoodcharacterasisrequiredbyhisbail

    beingposted. Atworst,it'scompletely

    obstructionist.

    Andheisinthesolepositiontobringthisentire

    proceedingtoascreechinghaltifhecontinuesthis

    behavior,showinguplate,notcooperatingwithgoing

    throughevaluationswhichbenefithim.

    Sobasedonthat,YourHonor,whatIwouldaskis

    thatyourevokethebondthatwaspreviouslypostedand

    remandhimintocustody. Wecansetthisforanother

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    hearingconsistentwiththeCourt'scalendarandthe

    evaluatorsatLakesCrossingsothatwecancomeback

    toYourHonoranddetermine,whichistheonly

    thresholdquestionatthispoint,isheevencompetent

    togoforward.

    And,likeIsay,basedontheactionsinthiscase,

    thecorrespondencesenttome,eithercc'dordirectly

    fromMr.Coughlin,it'scleartotheStatethathe's

    justbeinganobstructionistthroughthisentire

    process,andsoremandisappropriatetotheState.

    THECOURT: Well,Mr.Coughlin,weareatthis

    stagewhereyouneedtohavethisevaluation. AndI

    needtoknow,areyougoingtocooperateandgooverto

    LakesCrossingandgettheevaluation?

    THEDEFENDANT: YourHonor,ifImayaddressthat

    foramoment.

    THECOURT: Pleasedo.

    THEDEFENDANT: Okay. YourHonor,there'sbeen

    someproblemsintermsofworkingwithMr.Doganhere.

    Ihaven'tbeencopiedonfilingstotheCourt. It's

    alwaysbeenmyunderstanding,eitherbyMr.Doganorby

    theD.A.,it'salwaysbeenmyunderstandingasan

    attorneythatthat'sjustamatterofcourse,youcopy

    yourclientsonanythingyoufileandanythingyou

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    receive.

    Mr.Bosler,afterIhadcomplainedofMr.Dogan's

    failuretosocopymeinthatregard,particularlywith

    respectto,say,thisorderforcompetencyeval-

    MR.DOGAN: Fortherecord,thatwasprovidedto

    Mr.Coughlin.

    THEDEFENDANT: Hemighthaveemailedthattome,

    butcertainlydocumentssuchastheD.A.'sopposition

    tomymotiontoappearascocounselandhave

    Mr.Dogan,Ibelieve,withdrawascounsel,thatwas

    neverforwardedontomedespitemy-

    MR.DOGAN: Fortherecord,thatwasalsoprovided

    toMr.Coughlin.

    THEDEFENDANT: Excuseme,sir. Iwouldliketo

    havemyopportunitynow.

    THECOURT: Goahead.

    THEDEFENDANT: IhaveprovidedMr.Doganexpress

    writtenindicationthatIwishtobecopiedonevery

    singlefilinginthismatter. Inaddition,matters

    whichperhapsaregoingtobesubjecttoaworkproduct

    exceptionwhichthePublicDefenderwouldnothaveto

    provideme,suchasemailsbetweenMr.Doganand

    Mr.Young,butIhaveexpresslyindicatedinwritingon

    numeroustimesthatIwishedtobecopiedonthat.

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    Mr.Youngonthisrecentlyinwriting,saysthat

    motionshavetobeinwriting. Therewasnowritten

    motioninthisregard. I'vereviewedthefileinthe

    RenoJusticeCourt. Andthisisthecasewithbothof

    thecompetencyevaluationsthathavebeenorderedhere.

    Andbothofthem,Ibelieve,demonstratearetaliatory

    intentonthepartofthePublicDefender.

    AndMr.Huntwhowastestifyinghereearlier,well,

    hewentintomatterstowhichIcan't Ican'tsay-

    IknowMr.Dogan. Wewenttohighschooltogether.

    We'rebothRenoHigh,Ibelieve,classof'95ish,from

    SwopetoRenoHigh. AndI'veneverknownhimtobea

    Jihadistoranythingorthatsort. Youknow-

    MR.DOGAN: AJihadistforthePublicDefender,

    though.

    THEDEFENDANT: He'salwaysbeenabrightguywith,

    youknow,agoodsenseofhumor. SoIcan'tconcur

    withMr.Hunt'sstatementsinthatregard.

    Now,respectfully,IcansubmitI'vebeenshushed.

    I'vebeentold,youknow,thingssimilartowhatwas

    beingsaid.

    IunderstandthatthePublicDefenderisinavery

    funnysituation. It'savery It'sgottobevery

    difficult. AndI'lljustsayrespectfully,YourHonor,

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    Iwasadomesticviolenceattorneyforalegalaid

    organizationwhichIbelieveyou'reawareofattendant

    toanothercaseinyourcourt,butIthoughtthatstuff

    washeavytodealwithonanemotionallevel. But

    sittingherethismorning,witnessingwhatthebench

    andthePublicDefenderandtheDistrictAttorneyhave

    todealwith,thattheyhavetodointhecourseof

    theirbusinesseveryday,it's Idon'twanttosay

    impressive,butitmakesmehaveevenmorerespectfor

    thecourtandthePublicDefenderandtheDistrict

    Attorney,becausetheseareheavymatters. Theseare

    veryhumanissuesthatyoudealwithhere.

    AndIsaythatrespectfully. NowI'mgoingtoget

    towhatIwantedtosay,whichissomewhatcritical.

    AndIjustprefaceditwiththatrespect,topointout

    thatIdoevenmoresonowcomprehendtheenormityof

    the theheavinessandtheemotionalburdenthatyou

    andthoseatthebarherefaceeveryday.

    ButIhavebeenshushedalot. I'vehadMr.Dogan

    stormawayfromme. Granted,it'snoteasytohavean

    attorneyasaclient.

    THECOURT: Mr.Coughlin,youknow,Ihavelimited

    timetodaytodevotetothismatter,andreallywhat

    youarefacingisthatIagreethatyouneedthis

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    evaluation,Iwanttoseeit,andeitheryouagreethat

    you'llcooperateandgoovertoLakesCrossingandget

    thetwoevaluationsorIwillrevokeyourbail,putyou

    intocustodyandthenasanincustodyyouwillbe

    evaluated.

    THEDEFENDANT: Yes,YourHonor. Andjustquickly

    fortherecord,I'lldispensewiththefrillylanguage

    andextemporaneous,youknow,speechmaking,butthere

    wasnomotionheremadepursuantto178,Ibelievedot

    455. ThereneedstobeintherecordswiththeJustice

    Courtarticulatinganexpressbasisforseekingthis.

    Ibelievethere'saretaliatorybasis.

    Justdayspriortothisbeingmade,andIbelieve

    impropercontactbeingmadewiththeMunicipalCourtby

    somebodywiththePublicDefender's,justdayspriorto

    that,IfiledamotioncriticalofMr.Doganmissinga

    hearing. Inthatregard,Ibelievetherealsoneedsto

    beahearing. Therewasnohearingineitherofthese

    matters.

    THECOURT: Mr.Coughlin,areyoubasicallytelling

    methatyou'renotintendingtogettheevaluation,

    thatyou'reresisting-

    THEDEFENDANT: No,sir,that'snotwhatI'm

    tellingyou. I'msaying-

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    THECOURT: Becauseifyou'renotgoingtodoiton

    yourown,I'llputyouincustodyandwe'lltakecare

    ofitthatway.

    THEDEFENDANT: Iunderstand,YourHonor. And

    that'snotwhatI'msaying. WhatI'msayingis You

    referencedthisprocess. Ibelieveifwe'regoingto

    callitaprocess,itneedstoentailsomeprocess,

    somedueprocesshopefully.

    AndifIaskMr.DogantoconductsomeLegal

    researchon whichIhavedone,YourHonor,andI

    wouldliketoputforthsomeofthesecasestoyou,

    directedtotheparametersofsuchcompetency

    evaluation,directedtotheprivacyrightsattendantto

    oneforcedtoundergosuchanevaluation. I'vesimply

    receivednocounselornoadvocacyinthisregardfrom

    thePublicDefender. I'vehadmeetingsmissed. I've

    beentoldtoshush. I'vebeentoldallsortsofthings

    thatjustfranklyI'mtakenabackby.

    Thisevaluation,wehavenoideaofthescopeof

    thisotherthanI'mgivensomeindicationbythe

    statutewhatitisdirectedto,myabilityto

    understandtheproceedings,toassistMr.Doganinthe

    defensethereof. Andthere'sonemoreelementwhich

    I'mblankingonrightnow,butit'ssubstantially

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    similartothefirstone.

    It'snota it'snotablankcheckto

    psychiatristswhohavesomesortofrequirement

    contractwiththePublicDefender,andIstatedsome-

    orthecourt. I'vestatedsomeobjections. Ibelieve

    Ishouldbeabletohaveaprivatepsychologist

    appropriatelycertifiedunderNRS178toperformthis.

    I'vebeentoldno. I'vebeentoldIwon'tbe

    reimbursedinthatregard.

    Butit'snotablankcheck,Idon'tbelieve,to

    forceme,someonewhoisseekingtotakeadvantageof

    mytaxdollarsatworkbyhavingmySixthAmendment

    righttocounselaccordedtome. It'snotablank

    checktoLakesCrossingtodemandanythingtheywantto

    knowaboutme,particularlywhenI'minvolvedina

    fieldwheremendaciousandscurrilousindividualssuch

    asRichardG.Hillwillcoopanysortofinformation

    orinnuendo-

    MR.YOUNG: YourHonor,I'mgoingtoobjecttothis

    ascompletelyirrelevant.

    THEDEFENDANT: tofurthertheirends.

    THECOURT: Ihavetoagree.

    Mr.Coughlin,ifyou'retellingmefundamentally

    thatyoudon'tplantocooperate,I'llrevokeyourbail

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    andputyouintocustodyoftheWashoeCountySheriff

    andthentheycangetyou,youknow,theevaluationsas

    anincustodyperson. That'swhatIwouldhavetodo.

    Youknow,youareaveryarticulatemanand,you

    know,you'restatingyourpositionsonthis,butyour

    positionsareagainstwhatIwantdone.

    THEDEFENDANT: Idon'tknowwhatyouwantdone,

    YourHonor.

    THECOURT: Ijustwantyoutogetthetwo

    evaluationsatLakesCrossing. They'rethepeoplethat

    normallydothisforeverybody,youknow,and-

    THEDEFENDANT: AndIpresented-

    THECOURT: that'stheappropriatethingtohave

    doneatthistime.

    THEDEFENDANT: AndIpresentedtwiceinthat

    regard,YourHonor,andit'smyunderstandingtheyjust

    flatoutrefusetocontinue. Inthatregard,Ibelieve

    Ishould One,Idisputetheaccuracyoftheirletter

    wholeheartedly. Ifinditinaccurate,Ifindit

    retaliatoryintone. ButIdidpresent Andthere's

    acase-

    THECOURT: Well,I'veneverseenaletterlike

    thisbefore. Imean,peoplejustdon'tshowup,that's

    true,butoncetheyshowup,theygenerally,youknow,

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    cooperatewiththetalkingandtakingwhatevertesting

    needstobedoneandgettheevaluation. It'snota

    verypainfulprocess.

    THEDEFENDANT: AndIwastold Maybenotfor

    peoplewhoaren'tveryawareofconstitutionalrights.

    Butforsomeonewhoisburdenedwiththefactthatthey

    wenttolawschool,youknow,it'sdifficult. AndI

    wouldsubmitthatthere'sanumberofcasesinjuris

    prudenceinthisregardthatspeaktotheextent-

    THECOURT: Mr.Coughlin,sinceyou'renotgoingto

    cooperate-

    THEDEFENDANT: No,Iwillcooperate. Ijustneed

    toknow,YourHonor-

    THECOURT: Butyou'retellingmeyou'renot

    cooperating.

    THEDEFENDANT: No,Iwill. I'mtellingyouI

    will. AndIdid,Ishowedup. Theyaskedmea

    question-

    THECOURT: Youhavetoshowupandyouhaveto

    meetwiththetwopsychiatristsorpsychologists,I

    guess,technically,whatevertheyare,and,youknow,

    talktothem,beresponsiveandgettheappropriate

    evaluation.

    THEDEFENDANT: Iftheyaskmetotakeoffmy

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    clothesandappearnaked,doIneedtodothat?

    THECOURT: Ithinkit'sunlikelythatthat'sgoing

    tohappentoyou. I'mnotgoingtospeculateasto,

    youknow,totallyabsurd,youknow,thingsthatcould

    happenduringapsychological-

    THEDEFENDANT: IftheyaskmeifI'veeverhadany

    mentalhealthtreatment,iftheyaskmetohaveacopy

    ofanyofmymedicalrecords,iftheyaskmeanysort

    ofpersonalinformationthatwouldnormallybe

    protected-

    THECOURT: Thenyou'resayingyouwon'tcooperate?

    THEDEFENDANT: No,Ididn'tsaythat,sir. AndI

    didn'tsaythattoLakesCrossingeither. Theystormed

    off. Isaid,"I'llhavetocheckmyrecords,letme"

    somethinglike,"Letmethinkaboutthat."

    Andtheystormedoffinanger. Theysaid,"We're

    doneandleft."

    Anditwasappalling. Andthentosendtheletter

    theysentyou,YourHonor,isappalling. Ididn't

    standthereandsay: I'mrefusingtotellyou

    anything. Ididn'tdothat. Dr.Davisappeared-

    THECOURT: Look,Mr.Coughlin,Ijustneedto

    know,areyougoingtogothereandcooperateandget

    thispsychologicalevaluationornot? Imean,areyou

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    goingtodoitonyourownoutofcustody?

    THEDEFENDANT: Yes,YourHonor,Iwill,but-

    THECOURT: Okay. Well,ifyouaregoingtodo

    thatandyoucommittothiscourtbasicallyunder

    penaltyofbeingfoundincontemptforfailingtodo

    it,youknow,I'llleaveyououtofcustodyandyoucan

    getthisonyourown. Butifyou'renotgoingtogo

    thereandcooperate,I'mforcedtorevokeyourbailand

    putyouintocustodyandthenasanincustodyprisoner

    youcangetsomepsychologicalcounseling,and,you

    know,evaluation.

    THEDEFENDANT: YourHonor,Iwouldjustputforth,

    Ialwaysintendtofollowordersofthecourt. Iwould

    likeanopportunitytobriefthisandopposetheorder

    initiallysinceI'vebeen-

    THECOURT: Well,thatisdenied. We'reatthe

    pointnowwhereit'salreadydeterminedthatyou'reto

    getthisevaluation.

    THEDEFENDANT: ButIbelievethatanexcusable

    neglectanalysiswouldaugertowardsallowingmeto

    replaceMr.Doganbasedonhisfraudulencebasicallyor

    hisexcusableneglectorsomething,butIhavenotbeen

    accordedadueprocessrighttoopposethisevaluation.

    Iwouldlikethat.

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    Failingthat,Iwouldlikeanopportunitytobrief

    theextenttowhichthisevaluationisablankcheckto

    LakesCrossing. Iwouldalsoliketheopportunityto

    brieftheextenttowhichImustutilizeLakesCrossing

    versusaprivatecertifiedentityoraprofessional.

    THECOURT: Well,Mr.Coughlin,afterhearingyou

    argueandargueaboutthisissue,I'mmakingthe

    determinationthatyou'renotgoingtocooperatewith

    this,andIamrevokingyourbail.

    THEDEFENDANT: Sir,Iwillcooperate. Ifthat's

    whatitcomesdownto,I-

    THECOURT: You'regoingtobeplacedintocustody

    oftheWashoeCountySheriffatthistime. Irevoke

    yourbail.

    THEDEFENDANT: YourHonor,Ijustrespectfullyask

    thatyoureconsider,andI'lldowhateveryousayfor

    my-

    THECOURT: We'redonewiththis. I'msorrythat

    you'veforcedmetotakethisaction. Idon'treally

    wanttoputyouincustody,butit'sclearthatyou're

    reallynotgoingtocooperate. Andyou'reraising

    issuesaboutissuesthatseemkindofpreposterousbut

    thatwouldgiveyousomeexcusenottocooperate. So

    you'llhavetogettheexaminationasanincustody

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    person.

    MR.DOGAN: YourHonor,canImakeonesuggestion?

    THECOURT: Yes.

    MR.DOGAN: Assoonasthosecompetencyevaluations

    arecompleted,canwehaveMr.Coughlinremovedorno

    longerincustodyattheWashoeCountyJail?

    THECOURT: He'sgoingtoremainincustodyuntil

    hecanbebroughtbackhereforthehearingon

    competence.

    THEDEFENDANT: YourHonor,ifImayjustmakeone

    request. Givenyourruling,YourHonor,Ibasically

    willdowhatyousaytodo,particularly-

    THECOURT: Well,Idon'tbelievethatyouwill.

    Afterallthis,we'vespentalotoftimeonit,Ijust

    don'tbelieveyouanymore.

    THEDEFENDANT: Well,YourHonor,ifImaymoveto

    staybasedontheprejudicetomyclientsthat-

    THECOURT: Denied.

    MR.YOUNG: YourHonor,dowewanttosetanew

    date?

    THECOURT: Solet'ssetthisoutaboutinabouta

    month.

    MR.DOGAN: Canwejust-

    THECOURT: Andifit'sdoneearlier,fine,but

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    let'strackitforaboutamonthiswhatitnormally

    takes.

    MR.DOGAN: Iunderstand,YourHonor. Canwejust

    haveastatushearingjustincasebothofthe

    evaluationshavebeencompleted?

    THECOURT: Ifit'sdone,youallcangettogether

    andsetitbackonthecalendaratthattime.

    THECLERK: YourHonor,thefirstavailabledate

    wouldbeMay24that8:30. Isthatacceptable?

    MR.YOUNG: May24?

    THECLERK: Yes. Isthatacceptable?

    MR.DOGAN: Itis. Thankyou.

    THEDEFENDANT: MayIhavethosepapersentered

    intotherecord?

    MR.YOUNG: Thanks,YourHonor.

    THEDEFENDANT: Thatlegalresearchonthetable.

    THECOURT: Denied.

    (Theproceedingswerecontinuedto

    May24,2012at8:30a.m.)

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    STATEOFNEVADA )

    )ss.

    COUNTYOFWASHOE )

    I,LORIURMSTON,CertifiedCourtReporter,inand

    fortheStateofNevada,doherebycertify:

    Thattheforegoingproceedingsweretakenbyme

    atthetimeandplacethereinsetforth;thatthe

    proceedingswererecordedstenographicallybymeand

    thereaftertranscribedviacomputerundermy

    supervision;thattheforegoingisafull,trueand

    correcttranscriptionoftheproceedingstothebest

    ofmyknowledge,skillandability.

    IfurthercertifythatIamnotarelativenoran

    employeeofanyattorneyoranyoftheparties,noram

    Ifinanciallyorotherwiseinterestedinthisaction.

    Ideclareunderpenaltyofperjuryunderthelaws

    oftheStateofNevadathattheforegoingstatements

    aretrueandcorrect.

    DATED:AtReno,Nevada,this19thdayof

    May,2012.

    LORIURMSTON,CCR#51

    LORIURMSTON,CCR#51

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