Transcript Reconstruction Discussion 9

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ReconDiscussion9.testpt at 19:54 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

100% trueEl at 19:54 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Reconstruction seemed like a carrot on apole. So tauntingly close, yet in reality,unachievableSD at 19:55 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Federal government tried to dosomething, but it was too corruptEl at 19:56 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Did the foundation prevent racism at all?TT at 19:56 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

what about enforcement acts? Did theynot work to enforce the 14th and 15thamendments if Jim crow laws were laterable to take over?Ta at 19:56 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

They did send in soldiers to try andprotect the rights they granted, is thatnot them trying?CA at 19:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Good point -- what happened toenforcement acts?pt at 19:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

I believe it really was just a failedattempt at trying to achieve racial



equalityCN at 19:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The federal government just gave up anddidn't enforce those acts (haha). Whenthat was enforced, it made a differenceSD at 19:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

What was Congress?pt at 19:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

harpsweek: fed gov't relatively not eventhat corruptTa at 19:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

They tried, but the grip of the federal govwas non-existent in the southEl at 19:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Who controlled Congress?pt at 19:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

House and senateTa at 19:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The republicans I thinkTa at 19:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

YupEl at 19:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The republicans did during the RadicalReconstructionJP at 19:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Was it a failure of Congressor Fed gov't?pt at 19:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

At this point, congress is federalgovernmentSD at 20:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web



A constant struggle for power betweenthe Radical Republicans and Democrats.At first, the 'radicals' controlled themajority of their reconZ at 20:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

What???? If recon. Wasn't for racialequality then what was it?El at 20:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Putting the union back togetherEhw at 20:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

It also was to rebuild the unionJP at 20:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Then what was the Freedmans Bureaufor then? It was for helEl at 20:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

ping the blacksEl at 20:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Stabilizing post war AmericaKK at 20:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Just because the govt created somethingto help blacks doesn't make it altruistic.If blacks were educated and could vote,they would vote rSD at 20:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Helping blacks get an education, labor,land, etc... Helping them adjustTa at 20:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Epublican. It was to their politicaladvantage



SD at 20:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

By educating blacks, the northernrepublicans would ge their voteEl at 20:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

*getEl at 20:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Military intervention was fairlysuccessful in 1871-1872.GH at 20:04 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Sharecropping, black codes, KKK = "newslavery"pt at 20:04 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

How did they take action? Because thekkk didn't follow the law anywaysEhw at 20:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Bingo, so recon. was a jokeEl at 20:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

They tried to circumvent the blacksuffrage legislationJP at 20:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

What do mean by that?Ta at 20:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

you*Ta at 20:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

KKK was the law, actually. Sheriffs,judges, state and federal representatives.pt at 20:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

It wasn't a joke, it just wasn't perfectKK at 20:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Recon. Wasn't a joke, it lacked a



collective effort but its ideas were strongTT at 20:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

How did the KKK do that you mean?They brutalized republican supportersand boycotted black businessSD at 20:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Was the law or was abiding by the lawCA at 20:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Regardless if motives were influenced forpolitical reasons, the steps in achievingequality still remain as crucial steps in heCivil RightZ at 20:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

They were by mo means abiding by it,they were made up of people whoenforced the law.CA at 20:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

*noCA at 20:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

No, they were the law -- in positions ofauthority, charged with enforcing law,but more loyal to racism than laws.pt at 20:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Title the discussion.pt at 20:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Yes, but the Kkk was created in order toprevent blacks from voting, which was aright that had been given by the fifteenthamendment.



JP at 20:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Both parties wanted to eliminatesucession thoughEhw at 20:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Also to propogate white supremacyEl at 20:09 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

YepJP at 20:09 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The real goals of recon.TT at 20:09 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Well Reconstruction would be he ONLYtime possible to address the issue ofequality.Z at 20:09 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Recon confusionZd at 20:10 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Purpose and effectiveness ofreconstructionEhw at 20:10 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Goals and effectiveness of the federalgov'tTa at 20:10 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Missed opportunities -- indeed. Think ofthe list of missed opportunitiespt at 20:13 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

A hostile president really inhibitscongress powerCMN at 20:13 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Did they really have the support or



resources to reinforce the amendments?LK at 20:14 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Congress did not really care they wereanti slavery but not radicalAC at 20:14 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Does this mean that reconstruction as awhole was a failure?SG! at 20:14 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Depends on what you interpret the goalsareOZ at 20:14 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

No hard to stop homegrown defactomiltary groupsAC at 20:14 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

They certainly had the resources if theymobilized the armyMH at 20:14 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Just because congress had the powerdoesn't mean that the government, all 3branches, worked as a cohesive unitsv at 20:15 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Do you see ANY positives that came fromreconstruction?PO at 20:15 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Why do you believe they lost interest?LK at 20:15 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Superior force would not havenecessarily been effectiveAC at 20:15 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web



Does the disussion's emphasis on what"congress" did rather than what "the gov"did show that congress abused checksand balances?BH at 20:15 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

That is why Aryan war continuesAC at 20:15 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Afghan*AC at 20:16 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Were radicals really a "majority"?CMN at 20:16 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Were radicals really a "majority"?CMN at 20:17 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

I don't think that congress abused theirpower until they tried to impeachJohnsonMH at 20:17 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

one could say that having a powerlesspresident (in the face of congress) is afailure of government and shows thatchecks and balances didSG! at 20:17 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web


one could say that having a powerlesspresident (in the face of congress) is a



failure of government and shows thatchecks and balances didSG! at 20:17 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web


1877 compromise demanded Feds toreclaim soldiers from south andrelinquish support to republicans inSouthOZ at 20:17 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web






I agree, the system of checks andbalances, and working together as oneunit, kind of failed during reconsv at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

No, I would argue that they did anexcellent job of ensuring that thePresident did not violate thoseparameters.PO at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

I agree, the system of checks andbalances, and working together as oneunit, kind of failed during reconsv at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

having a president that was powerless inthe face of congress shows a failure ofchecks and balances and thus a failure ofgvtSG! at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

having a president that was powerless inthe face of congress shows a failure ofchecks and balances and thus a failure ofgvtSG! at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Like a new confederacy almostAC at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

No, I would argue that they did anexcellent job of ensuring that thePresident did not violate those



parameters.PO at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web


sorry about the double postsSG! at 20:18 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The 1877 bargain was corrupt -- tradeone of the most "forgettable presidency'sfor Home Rule"pt at 20:19 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Was military occupation evenconstitutional?MH at 20:19 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

How could the KKK have beensuppressed by the federal governmentwithout military intervention?BH at 20:20 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Idk south did secedeAC at 20:20 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Is that why the "lack of progression" wasevident? Because of Hayes and Grant"being tired"?LK at 20:20 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

How likely was full military occupationafter 4 years of war?pt at 20:20 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web



Did they think that (heavy) militaryoccupation and strict enforcement was'too much too soon' after the civil war?sv at 20:20 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Goal of recon- rebuild ties!MSS at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

A battered economy and populous wouldstop them from secedingCMN at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

What would the south have done if thefed govnt went with full militaryoccupation? Would the south haveattempted to rebel again? Too weak?Ar at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

But wasn't lack of rights due to across theboard racism?MSS at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Too weak and devastatedAC at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The kkk were terrorists within ourcountry and therefore needed to besupressed militarilyJw at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Does allowing racist miltants to terrorizeblack voter qualify as a good wat to stopbashing the South?PO at 20:21 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

South was totally devestated after CWthey didn't have the manpower



MH at 20:22 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Did personal gain drive the tactics duringthe Reconstruction?LK at 20:22 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

How do you stop racism?MH at 20:22 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

You cantAc at 20:22 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

the south would have been too weak tofight and would have known they'd loseagain. and military occupation couldhave been used under theSG! at 20:23 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Also, during the recon era most of theleaders of the equal protecting/abolition/etc. Were dead or ou of politics. Maybethat's why the effsv at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Can u stop it?MSS at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web


Civil rights act 1963OZ at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Title the discussionpt at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web


Congress' State of MindLK at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web



excuse of a war act or helping reform abroken nationSG! at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web



You can't stop racism, but you can stoprace riotsPO at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Civil rights act 1963OZ at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

And without a strong cotton industrytheir economy was too weak to sustainwar tooJw at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

You can't stop racism, but you can stoprace riotsPO at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The Change of Constituent DesiresMH at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The Change of Constituent DesiresMH at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Also, during the recon era most of theleaders of the equal protecting weredead/ ou of politics Maybe that's why theeffort died out...sv at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

The Change of Constituent Desires



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MH at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Racial violence: congress vs. The kkkBH at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

An Unbalanced GovernmentSG! at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Lack of follow up effortsv at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Awk triple post srryMH at 20:24 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

Congress versus the presidentJw at 20:25 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web

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