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St. Cyril of Jerusalem’s Catechetical Lectures Lecture 9: God’s Answer to our Complaint: Where were you when I laid the foundations? © OCOI Studios, 2013

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St. Cyril of Jerusalem’s Catechetical Lectures

Lecture 9: God’s Answer to our Complaint: Where were you when I laid the

foundations?

© OCOI Studios, 2013

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Job 38:2—Job 40:5, 1 And after Elius had ceased from speaking, the Lord spoke to Job

through the whirlwind and clouds, saying,

2 Who is this that hides counsel from me, and confines words in his heart,

and thinks to conceal them from me? 3 Gird your loins like a man; and I will

ask you, and do you answer me.

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4 Where were you when I founded the earth? tell me now, if you have

knowledge, 5 Who set the measures of it, if you know? or who stretched a line upon

it? 6 On what are its rings fastened? and who is he that laid the corner-stone

upon it? 7 When the stars were made, all my angels praised me with a loud voice.

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8 And I shut up the sea with gates, when it rushed out, coming forth out its mother’s womb. 9 And I made a cloud its clothing, and swathed it in

mist. 10 And I set bounds to it,

surrounding it with bars and gates. 11 And I said to it, Hitherto shall you come, but you shall not go beyond,

but your waves shall be confined within you.

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12 Or did I order the morning light in your time; and did the morning star then first see his appointed

place; 13 to lay hold of the extremities of the earth, to cast

out the ungodly out of it? 14 Or did you take clay of the

ground, and form a living creature, and set it with the power of

speech upon the earth?

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15 And have you removed light from the ungodly, and crushed the

arm of the proud? 16 Or have you gone to the source

of the sea, and walked in the tracks of the deep?

17 And do the gates of death open to your for fear; and did the

porters of hell quake when they saw you?

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18 And have you been instructed in the breadth of the whole earth under

heaven? tell me now, what is the extent of it?

19 And in what kind of a land does the light dwell? and of what kind is the place

of darkness?20 If you could bring me to their utmost boundaries, and if also you know their

paths; 21 I know then that you wert born at that time, and the number of

your years is great.

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22 But have you gone to the treasures of snow? and have you

seen the treasures of hail? 23 And is there a store of them, for

your against the time of thine enemies, for the day of wars and

battle? 24 And whence proceeds the frost?

or whence is the south wind dispersed over the whole world

under heaven?

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25 And who prepared a course for the violent rain, and a way for the thunders; 26 to rain upon the land

where there is no man, the wilderness, where there is not a

man in it; so as to feed the untrodden and uninhabited land,

27 and cause it to send forth a crop of green herbs?

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28 Who is the rain’s father? and who has generated the drops of

dew? 29 And out of whose womb comes

the ice? and who has produced the frost in the sky, 30 which

descends like flowing water? who has terrified the face of the

ungodly?

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31 And do you understand the band of Pleias, and have you opened the barrier of Orion?

32 Or wilt you reveal Mazuroth in his season, and the evening star

with his rays? Wilt you guide them?

33 And know you the changes of heaven, or the events which take

place together under heaven

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34 And wilt you call a cloud with your voice, and will it obey your with a violent shower of much

rain? 35 And wilt you send lightnings, and they shall go? and shall they

say to your, What is your pleasure? 36 And who has given to women skill in weaving, or knowledge of

embroidery?

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37 And who is he that numbers the clouds in wisdom, and has

bowed the heaven down to the earth?

38 For it is spread out as dusty earth, and I have cemented it as

one hewn stone to another.

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39 And wilt you hunt a prey for the lions? and satisfy the desires of

the serpents? 40 For they fear in their lairs, and lying in wait couch in the woods.

41 And who has prepared food for the raven? for its young ones

wander and cry to the Lord, in search of food.

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Chapter 39 1 Say if you know the time of the bringing forth of the wild goats of

the rock, and if you have marked the calving of the hinds: 2 and if you

have numbered the full months of their being with young, and if you have relieved their pangs: 3 and have reared their young without

fear; and wilt you loosen their pangs?

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4 Their young will break forth; they will be multiplied with

offspring: their young will go forth, and will not return to them.

5 And who is he that sent forth the wild ass free? and who loosed his

bands? 6 whereas I made his habitation the wilderness, and the

salt land his coverts.

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7 He laughs to scorn the multitude of the city, and hears not the chiding of the tax-gatherer.

8 He will survey the mountains as his pasture, and he seeks after

every green thing. 9 And will the unicorn be willing to serve your, or to lie down at your

manger?

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10 And wilt you bind his yoke with thongs, or will he plough furrows

for your in the plain? 11 And do you trust him, because his strength is great? and will you

commit your works to him? 12 And wilt you believe that he

will return to your seed, and bring it in to your threshing-floor?

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13 The peacock has a beautiful wing: if the stork and the ostrich conceive, it is worthy of notice,14 for the ostrich will leave her eggs in the ground, and warm

them on the dust, 15 and has forgotten that the foot

will scatter them, and the wild beasts of the field trample them.

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16 She has hardened herself against her young ones, as though

she bereaved not herself: she labors in vain without fear. 17 For God has withholden

wisdom from her, and not given her a portion in understanding.

18 In her season she will lift herself on high; she will scorn the

horse and his rider.

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19 Have you invested the horse with strength, and clothed his

neck with terror? 20 And have you clad him in perfect armor, and made his

breast glorious with courage? 21 He paws exulting in the plain,

and goes forth in strength into the plain.

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22 He laughs to scorn a king as he meets him, and will by no means

turn back from the sword.23 The bow and sword resound

against him; and his rage will swallow up the ground: 24 and he will not believe until the trumpet sounds.

25 And when the trumpet sounds, he says, Aha! and afar off he smells the

war with prancing and neighing.

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26 And does the hawk remain steady by your wisdom, having spread out her wings unmoved, looking toward the region of the

south? 27 And does the eagle rise at your

command, and the vulture remain sitting over his nest, 28 on a crag of a rock, and in a secret place?

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29 Thence he seeks food, his eyes observe from far. 30 And his young ones roll themselves in blood, and

wherever the carcasses may be, immediately they are found.

31 And the Lord God answered Job, and said, 32 Will any one

pervert judgment with the Mighty One? and he that reproves God,

let him return it for answer.

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33 And Job answered and said to the Lord, 34 Why do I yet plead?

being rebuked even while reproving the Lord: hearing such

things, whereas I am nothing: and what shall I answer to these

arguments? I will lay my hand upon my mouth. 35 I have spoken once; but I will not do so a second

time.

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Chapter 40 1 And the Lord yet again answered and spoke to Job out of the cloud,

saying, 2 Nay, gird up now your loins like a

man; and I will ask you, and do you answer me.

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3 Do not set aside my judgment: and do you think that I have dealt with you in any other way, than

that you might appear to be righteous?

4 have you an arm like the Lord’s? or do you thunder with a voice like his? 5 Assume now a lofty bearing

and power; and clothe yourself with glory and honor.

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Who is this that hides counsel from Me, and

keeps words in his heart, and thinks to hide them from Me?

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Jesus said:“no man has seen God

at any time.” John 1:18.

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“no man shall see My face and live.”

Exodus 33:20:

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“For from the greatness and

beauty of created things

comes a corresponding

(proportionate) perception

of their Creator.”

Wisdom 13: 5 (NRSVC)

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The Lord is king; let the peoples tremble!

He sits enthronedupon the cherubim;

let the earth quake!” Psalm 99:1

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One God, the Father Almighty,

Maker of Heaven and Earth, and of All Things

Visible and Invisible;

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“Let there be a firmamentin the midst of the water”

Genesis 1:6.

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Praise the Lord from the Heavens, No. 2 Cappella Romana, Alexander Lingas & Vladimir Morosan

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In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy,

and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens,

and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat.

Psalm 18 1-6

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Day unto day utters speech, and

night unto nightreveals knowledge.

Psalm 19:2

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I form the light andcreate darkness,

… I, the Lord,

do all these things.’Isaiah 45:7

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“Let there be lights in the firmament of theheavens to divide the day from the night;

And let them be for signs, and

for seasons, and for years.”

Genesis 1:14

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Who is the father of the rain?And who has begotten the drops of dew?

Job 38:28 ?

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Who cannumber the

Clouds by wisdom?Or who can pour out

the bottles of heaven?Job 36:37

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“Have you entered the treasury of snow,Or have you seen the treasury of hail,

Which I have reserved for the time of trouble,For the day of battle and war?

From whose womb comes the ice?And the frost of heaven, who gives it birth?”

Job 38:20, 29

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And wine that makes gladthe heart of man, Oil to make his face shine, And bread which strengthensman’s heart. Psalm 104:15

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Consider the lilies, how they grow:

they neithertoil nor spin;

yet I say to you, even Solomonin all his glory

was not arrayedlike one of these.

Luke 12:27

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the fish of the sea will declare to you.Who among all these does not knowthat the hand of the Lord has done this?In his hand is the life of every living thingand the breath of every human being.

Job 12:8-10

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"When I [God] said, ‘This far you may come, but no farther,

And here your proud waves must stop!’"Job 38:11

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But those who wait upon the Lordshall renew their strength,

they shall mount up with wings like eagles,they shall run and not be weary,

they shall walk and not faint. Isaiah 40:31

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“Let the earth bring forth wild beasts,and cattle, and creeping things,

after their kinds”Genesis 1:24

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They were like well-fed lusty stallions;Every one neighed after his neighbor’s wife.

Jeremiah 5:8

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Go to the ant, you sluggard! Consider her ways and be wise,Which, having no captain, Overseer or ruler,

Provides her supplies in the summer,And gathers her food in the harvest.

Prov. 6:6-8

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“How sweet are Your words to my taste,Sweeter than honey to my mouth!” Psalm 119:103

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Platypus: Animal designed bya committee!

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Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.Luke 10:19

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He delivers and rescues, And He works signs and wondersIn heaven and on earth, delivering Danielfrom the power of the lions.Daniel 6:27

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‘Your hands have mademe and fashioned me,

An intricate unity; Yet Youwould destroy me?

Clothe me withskin and flesh,

knit me together with bones and sinews.

You have grantedme life and favor,And Your care has

preserved my spirit.Job 10:8-12

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But we were gentle among you,just as a nursing mother

cherishes her own children.1 Thessalonians 2:7

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Simulated by Animation

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For from thegreatness and beauty

of created thingscomes a

corresponding perceptionof their Creator.

Wisdom 13:5 (NRSVCE)

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O Lord, how manifold are Your works!In wisdom You have made them all.

The earth is full of Your possessions—This great and wide sea,

In which are innumerable teeming things,Living things both small and great.

Psalm 104:24-25 (NKJV)