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This presentation was delivered on Oct 26th 2013 to Equity Pune group. The basic theme is the importance of contrarian approach. However, the first two slides is about recap of the earlier presentations delivered to the same group.
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26 October 2013
Contrarian Approach in Stock Market
A presentation
by
Niteen S Dharmawat
at Equity Pune gathering…
1 Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Recap… Performance in an election year…
2
Analyzed last 6 Loksabha elections spanning over 20+ years
Year % return
1991* + 27% Year % return
1996 + 22% Year % return
1998 +4% Year % return
1999 +66% Year % return
2004 +86% Year % return
2009 - 28%
Year % return
2014 ?
* Sensex performance of last 5 months before elections
When analyzed the Sensex was at near 18000 and market
‘experts’ predicting 12000… Now near
21000… Exceptional year. Sensex had a ‘V’
shaped recovery within next 6 months to cross the previous high.
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Discussed this in May 2013 meeting… and we are dot on….
Recap… Key factors for the burst…
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We discussed Opto Circuit and Arshiya, concluded that they should burst…
Opto from 140 to now 24
Arshiya International from 130 to now 19
And they will never return to the past glory…
Obvious signs for a burst…
Consistent mismatch between NP v/s CFO
Dangerous level of Share Holding Patter ‘SHP’
Fancy business models
Acquisition led ‘growth’ to hide poor performance
High level of growth compared to CFO/NP
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Discussed these in one of the last meetings… and we are dot on….
Opto Circuit
Arshiya Int.
Mismatch between Net profit and CFO over last several years (remember Enron)
Mismatch between Net profit and CFO over last several years, poor SHP (remember Enron, Satyam?)
FII holding/Celebrity Analysts/investors (e.g.: Helios Capital, IIM alumni, operating from Singapore) recommending from rooftop on CNBC
Fancy business plans and stories
NP-OCF combination with poor shareholding pattern – a disaster in making
FII holding/Celebrity Analysts recommending from the rooftop
Acquisition led growth
Significant increase in debt + Preferential allotment: Cash guzzlers
What we should look for is a contrarian approach…
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Market in year 1998-2000?
It was only IT and IT
What has happened to the FMCG , Banks, Oil & Gas, Infrastructure or other traditional core sector companies during that period?
Market in 2010 onwards?
Only FMCG and FMCG
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Story of Brick & Mortar stocks…Starting 1998…
A bad start aka ‘Sholay’…
But finally became the biggest hit… ever
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The need for patience if big profits are to be
made from investment: Phil Fisher
Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
FMCG stock… Colgate
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Colgate* 8 times returns in
8 years + Dividends
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Still analysts take their neck out & recommend for long-term
FMCG stock… HLL/HUL
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HLL* 3 times returns in
6 years + Dividends
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Still analysts take their neck out & recommend for long-term
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L&T*
Engineering stock… L&T
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7 times returns in 8 years + Dividends
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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RIL*
Conglomerate… RIL
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8 times returns in 3 years including Stocks in 4
demerged cos + Dividends A growth of about 15% over last 12 years gives an min undervalued price of Rs. 1200…
Average price of Rs 200 and avg year is 2001.
Stagnant again… is it heading for something big???
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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Infy*
IT Bellwether (?)… Infy
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3.5 times returns in 6 years + Dividends
It was more than 20 times in a year… a disaster in making!!!
It was IT and IT only
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Story of PVT Banks… 2013…
A Happy story…
Party started in 2002 still continues…
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“We simply attempt to be fearful when
others are greedy and to be greedy only
when others are fearful.” Warren Buffett
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
PVT Banks…
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They are in Chennai Express…
Everything is rosy… as if the fears of PSU Banks/economy not applicable…
They can’t go wrong feeling…
NPAs will not come… they have not disbursed any loans to Real Estate, Infrastructure - ‘Bad sectors’…
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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HDFC*
PVT Sector banks… HDFC
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13 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Still analysts take their neck out & recommend for long-term
“It’s far better to buy a wonderful company at
a fair price than a fair company at
a wonderful price.” Warren Buffett
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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ICICI*
PVT Sector banks… ICICI
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10 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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AXIS*
PVT Sector banks… AXIS
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25 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Still analysts take their neck out & recommend for long-term
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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J&K Bank*
PVT Sector banks… J&K
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12 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
The story of PSU Banks… 2013…
Sorry…
They are Party-poopers… for many
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“We simply attempt to be fearful when
others are greedy and to be greedy only
when others are fearful.” Warren Buffett
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Public Sector Banks…
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Seems to have caught by the fever of Ranbir Kapur aka ‘Besharam’… everything is going wrong…
Beaten down with too much of negativity about… everything… right from economy to the prospects of hung parliament…
Fear of more ‘corporate defaults’ coming out of cupboards… Fear of NPAs…
“Only when you combine sound intellect with emotional discipline do you get rational behavior.”
Warren Buffett
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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SBI
Public Sector Banks… SBI
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7 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of stagnation. High NPAs… Too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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BOB
Public Sector Banks… BoB
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10 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of stagnation. High NPAs… Too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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Dena
Public Sector Banks… Dena
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8 times returns in 10 years + Dividends
A period of stagnation. High NPAs… Too much negativity…
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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Andhra
Public Sector Banks… Andhra
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7 times returns in 8 years + Dividends
Just got listed post the period of stagnation.
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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PNB
Public Sector Banks… PNB
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10 times returns in 8 years + Dividends
Just got listed post the period of stagnation.
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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Allahabad
Public Sector Banks… Allahabad
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9 times returns in 8 years + Dividends
Just got listed post the period of stagnation.
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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Vijaya
Public Sector Banks… Vijaya
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9 times returns in 8 years + Dividends
Just got listed post the period of stagnation.
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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BOM
Public Sector Banks… BOM
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Just got listed post the period of stagnation.
* adjusted for any split/bonus
Price is the closing price at the end of the year
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
What are the key factors today…
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Too much negativity…
Many sectors, midcap, smallcap stocks butchered… trading almost 20-30% of their peak price
How to identify the stocks/sectors which are marred with negativity but have a good chance to recover…
PSU Banks are today what FMCG/traditional companies were in year 2000… Untouchable…
“Only buy something that you’d be perfectly
happy to hold if markets shut down for 10 yrs.” Warren Buffett
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Key factors to analyze a PS Bank…
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CMP Book Value PE Dividend Yield Market Capitalization v/s revenue
v/s profits Net NPA Gross NPA No of branches Net Interest Margins CASA Future investments Management discussions
Phil Fisher way: Go to five PS Banks/their vendors, ask each of them intelligent questions about
the points of strength and weakness of the other four, and
nine times out of ten a surprisingly detailed and accurate
picture of all five will emerge. Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
Key factors to analyze a PS Bank…
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Net NPAs: Red: 2.5%or more Amber: 1.5%-2.5% Green: below 1.5%
Div yield: Red below 3% Amber 3-5% Green: above 5%
Gross NPAs: Red: 3%or more. Amber: 2.5%-3% Green: below 3%
Book Value: Red:1 or more MP Amber 0.5-1 MP Green:0.5MP
Key factors to analyze a PS Bank…
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Bank CMP 52wk (H/L)
Book Value
PE Div Yield Market
Cap (INR Crs)
Net NPA Gross NPA
Interest income
(INR Crs)
NP (INR Crs)
Net NPAs: Red: 2.5%+, Amber: 1.5%-2.5%, Green: below 1.5% Gross NPAs: Red: 3%+, Amber: 2.5%-3%, Green: below 3%
Div yield: Red below 3%, Amber 3-5%, Green: 5%+ Book Value: Red:1or more MP, Amber 0.5-1 MP, Green:0.5MP
Andhra Bank 54 130 – 47 150 2.67 9.01% 2500 3.27% 4.73% 12909 1289
Bank of Baroda 595 899 429 756 5.57 3.58% 20,928 1.69% 2.99% 35196 4480
Dena Bank 50 128 – 41 140 2.38 9.09% 1500 1.74% 2.70% 8899 810
PNB 496 922 – 402 884 3.66 5.46% 15000 2.98% 4.84% 41893 4747
Vijaya Bank 39 67 – 33 82 3.28 6.23% 1700 1.45% 2.42% 9051 585
SBI 1,717 2,550- 1,452
1445 8.65 2.42% 103,500 2.83% 5.56% 119657 14104
Allahabad Bank 81 190 – 64 210 3.88 7.01% 3700 3.87% 4.78% 17435 1185
BOM 39 66 – 35 70 3.05 5.64% 2470 0.80% 1.80% 9613 759
Thank you
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: 9850571857
Blog: http://dharmawat.blogspot.com/
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IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Investment in equity shares has its own risks. Sincere efforts have been made to present the right investment perspective. The information contained herein is based on analysis and up on sources that I consider reliable. I, however, do not vouch for the accuracy or the completeness thereof. This material is for personal information and I am not responsible for any loss incurred based upon it & take no responsibility whatsoever for any financial profits or loss which may arise from the recommendations above. I sincerely request you to do your homework before you take any position whatsoever. I, my relatives or friends may have position in the stocks discussed here.