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Should the Rich Payfor Fiscal Adjustment?

Income and Capital Tax Options

Thomas PikettyParis School of Economics

Brussels, ECFIN Workshop, October 18 2012

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This talk: two points

• 1. The rise of European wealth-income ratios - Top income shares ↑ much more in US than in Europe- But wealth-income ratios ↑ much more in Europe(EU GDP: 12tr €; net private wealth: 60tr € = 500% GDP)

(memo: China’s reserves < 3tr €: 20 times smaller) → In Europe, main fiscal reserve = wealth taxation

(while in US, main reserve = top income taxation)

• 2. A proposal for a European wealth tax- A comprehensive wealth tax with rate 1% above 1m€

and 2% above 5m€ would raise ≈ 2% of EU GDP- Other options (top income tax, corporate tax, FTT) are

also useful, but raise less revenue

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1. The Rise of European wealth-income ratios• Top income shares ↑ much more in US than in Europe• World Top Incomes Database: 25 countries, annual

series over most of 20C, largest existing historical data set on income inequality

• In US, top 10% income share rose from 35% to 50% ofnational income (top 1% share rose from <10% to >20%) and absorbed 70% of macro growth over 1980-2010

• In Continental Europe, there was also a rise in top incomeshares, but it started later (mid 1990s rather than early1980s) and was quantitatively much smaller

• F Hollande’s 75% top rate above 1m€ would be muchmore useful in US than in France

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FIGURE 1The Top Decile Income Share in the United States, 1917-2010

Source: Piketty and Saez (2003), series updated to 2010. Income is defined as market income including realized capital gains (excludes government transfers).

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FIGURE 2Decomposing the Top Decile US Income Share into 3 Groups, 1913-2010

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Top 1% share: English Speaking countries (U-shaped), 1910-2010

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Top 1% share: Continental Europe and Japan (L-shaped), 1900-2010

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Top 1% share: Continental Europe, North vs South (L-shaped), 1900-2010

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Top Decile Income Shares 1910-2010

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1910 1920 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2010Source: World Top Incomes Database, 2012. Missing values interpolated using top 5% and top 1% series.

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• But wealth-income ratios ↑ much more in Europe

• Results from Piketty-Zucman, « Capital is Back: Wealth-Income Ratios in Rich Countries 1870-2010 »

• How do aggregate wealth-income ratios evolve in the long run, and why?

• Until recently, it was impossible to adress properly thisbasic question: national accounts were mostly about flows on income, output, savings, etc., and very littleabout stocks of assets and liabilities

• In this paper we compile a new data set of national balance sheets in order to adress this question:

- 1970-2010: US, Japan, Germany, France, UK, Italy, Canada, Australia (= top 8 rich countries)

- 1870-2010: US, Germany, France, UK(official national accounts + historical estimates)

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• Result 1: we find in every country a gradual rise ofwealth-income ratios over 1970-2010 period, fromabout 200%-300% in 1970 to 400%-600% in 2010

• Result 2: in effect, today’s ratios seem to be returningtowards the high values observed in 19c Europe (600%-700%)

• This can be accounted for by a combination of factors:- Politics: long run asset price recovery effect (itself

driven by changes in capital policies since WWs)- Economics: slowdown of productivity and pop growthHarrod-Domar-Solow: wealth-income ratio β = s/gIf saving rate s=10% & growth rate g=3%, then β≈300%

But if s=10% & g=1.5%, then β≈600% Explains long run change & level diff Europe vs US

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Private wealth / national income ratios, 1970-2010

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1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. Private wealth = non-financial assets + financial assets - financial liabilities (household & non-profit sectors)

USA Japan

Germany France

UK Italy

Canada Australia

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Private wealth / national income ratios, 1970-2010 (incl. Spain)

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1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. Private wealth = non-financial assets + financial assets - financial liabilities (household & non-profit sectors)

USA Japan Germany

France UK Italy

Canada Spain Australia

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Private wealth / national income ratios in Europe, 1870-2010

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1870 1890 1910 1930 1950 1970 1990 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. Private wealth = non-financial assets + financial assets - financial liabilities (household & non-profit sectors)

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Private wealth / national income ratios 1870-2010

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1870 1890 1910 1930 1950 1970 1990 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. Private wealth = non-financial assets + financial assets - financial liabilities (household & non-profit sectors)

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Private vs governement wealth, 1970-2010 (% national income)

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1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. Government wealth = non-financial assets + financial assets - financial liabilities (govt sector)

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UK Italy

Canada Australia

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2. A Proposal for a European Wealth Tax

• Comprehensive wealth tax based upon market-valuepersonal net worth = non-fin. + financial assets – liabilities

• Very different from 19c style wealth tax based uponcadastral values (→repealed in Germany, Spain, Sweden..)

• Closer to French ISF (annual wealth returns with assetsvalued at market prices; ISF created in late 20c: inflation)

• But with a broader tax base than ISF, and with returnsprefilled by tax administration on the basis of information transmitted by banks

• It requires a lot of information, but this is technically doable• Key is political: we should not have free trade agreements

without automated cross-border information exchange on financial assets and financial flows

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• An illustrative tax schedule:• Marginal tax rate = 1% if net wealth > 1m €

(about 2,5% of EU pop)• Marginal tax rate = 2% if net wealth > 5m €

(about 0,2% of EU pop)• Simulations: this would raise ≈ 2% of EU GDP• Why so much revenue? For two reasons:• (1) Aggregate private wealth is very large : 500% GDP• (2) Wealth is highly concentrated: top 10% wealth holders

have 60% of aggregate wealth, and top 1% have 25%• I.e. top 1% wealth tax base = 125% of GDP(top 2.5% wealth tax base = 200% GDP, top 0.1% = 50%)

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• Other options raise less revenue• FTT: less than 0,5% GDP (much less if successful)

(double dividend illusion)• Top income tax: about 0,5% GDP with a 20%

supplementary tax rate on top 1% incomes (100 000+)(top 1% income tax base = 5% GDP)

• Corporate tax: about 1% GDP with a 10% supplementarytax rate on corporate profits

(corporate tax base = 10%-12% GDP)→ all these options are useful, especially corporate tax,

given tax competition and large decline in rates; but in the long run the wealth tax is even more useful

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Corporate tax competition in the EU

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Average statutory corporatetax rate (EU 27)

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Personal income tax competition in the EU

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1995 1997 1999 2001 2003 2005 2007 2009 2011Source: Taxation trends in the EU, Eurostat 2011

Average top personal incometax rate (Euro zone)

Average top personal incometax rate (EU 27)

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Summing up• Eurotax can be useful if it helps member countries raise

the tax revenue (1) that are adapted to their economicfundamentals; (2) which they cannot raise on their own

• Wealth tax meets the two criteria• Top income or corporate tax meets also the two criteria;

corporate tax is a tempting and useful option, especiallygiven large decline in tax rate; but in the long run wealthtax is even more useful: it raises more revenue, and in a more efficient manner (better to tax stock rather than flow)

• VAT or general income or payroll tax increase meets none of the criteria: it is not adapted to economic fundamentals, and countries can easily raise them alone

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Supplementary slides

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FIGURE 1The Top Decile Income Share in the United States, 1917-2010

Source: Piketty and Saez (2003), series updated to 2010. Income is defined as market income including realized capital gains (excludes government transfers).

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Top Income Tax Rates 1910-2010

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The changing nature of national wealth, UK 1700-2010

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Concepts & methods• National income Y = domestic output Yd + r NFA• Private wealth W = non-financial assets + financial assets –

financial liabilities (household & non-profit sector)• β = W/Y = private wealth-national income ratio

• Govt wealth Wg = non-fin + fin assets - fin liab (govt sector)• National wealth Wn = W + Wg = K + NFAwith K = domestic capital (= land + housing + other domestic k)

NFA = net foreign assets• βn = Wn/Y = national wealth-national income ratio

• Domestic output Yd = F(K,L) (L = labor input) (e.g. KαL1-α)• Capital share α = r β (r = average rate of return to wealth)

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9.9%1.7%1.4%3.2%Australia

15.0%1.6%0.3%1.9%Italy

7.3%1.9%0.3%2.2%U.K.

11.1%1.7%0.5%2.2%France

12.2%1.8%0.2%2.0%Germany

14.6%2.0%0.5%2.5%Japan

7.7%1.8%1.0%2.8%U.S.

Net privatesaving rate (personal + corporate)

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Table 2: Growth rate vs private saving rate in rich countries, 1970-2010

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Observed vs predicted private wealth / national income ratio (2010)

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National vs foreign wealth, 1970-2010 (% national income)

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1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. Net foreign wealth = net foreign assets owned by country residents in rest of the world (all sectors)

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National income / domestic product ratios, 1970-2010

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1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010Authors' computations using country national accounts. National income = domestic product + net foreign income

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Domestic capital / output ratios, 1970-2010

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Annual inheritance flow as a fraction of disposable income, France 1820-2008

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Economic flow (computed from national wealth estimates, mortalitytables and observed age-wealth profiles)Fiscal flow (computed from observed bequest and gift tax data, inc.tax exempt assets)

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Figure 1: Annual inheritance flow as a fraction of national income, France 1820-2008

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Top Inheritance Tax Rates 1900-2011

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