VANCOUVER ELECTRIC VEHICLE ASSOCIATION

VEVA NEWS Jun 2004June MEETING

7:30PM on Wednesday, Jun 16, 2004BCIT SE1 Cafeteria

3700 Willingdon Ave, Burnaby, BCSee the web page www.veva.bc.ca for a mapand additional information on parking.

REV!2004 Wrap – What was good,what was not.

EV's of the MonthJune 2004

June's EV of the month is a 2003 Segway model “I”, ownedby Byron Lawes, Vancouver BC. It weights 38kg and runson two 72 volt 60 cell Saft NiMH battery packs. The drivesystem uses two 1.5 kw (2hp) Pacific Scientific Brushlessmotors through a single speed, 2 stage 24:1 reduction gearbox.Speed is 12.5 km/h with a range of 13-19 km.Built by Segway LLC, Bedford, NH USA

July 2004

July's EV of the month is a 1996 Solectria Force, owned byPhil Dayson, Vancouver, BC. It was converted from a 1996Geo Metro by Solectria Corp., Woburn, MA USA. Itweights 1270 kg and uses a 156 volt battery made from 1312v East Penn group 27 gel cells. The driver system is aSolectria Acgu20 3-phase induction motor coupled to aSolectria AC325 controller. Power is supplied via aSolectria AT 1200 single speed reduction gear box.Speed is 110 km/h with a range of 60-70 km.

Agenda1. Call to the order/opening statement2. Introduction of new faces3. REV Show wrap4. Misc. issues / discussionTo have an item placed on the agenda please send anemail to veva@jvbike.com. All items received by theWednesday before the meeting will be published in thenewsletter.

MinutesNot available at printing.

COLIN, VEVA Secretary.

REV Show!Delta-Q Electrathon Races

There were the two Electrathon races held again this year.In the morning the high schools raced with Gladstone

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coming first in Wildthang. It is always impressive to see thecars these 'kids' build. The cars race under a modifiedelectrathon race rules requiring three driver changes duringthe race and with slightly different minimum weight limits.In the afternoon the Delta-Q open class was run. This racewas open to anyone who wished to race and uses thenational electrathon race rules.

http://electrathonamerica.org/Many thanks to Dave Cloud for assisting again this year inrunning the races and congratulations to his daughter whodrove Cloud Racing's car #40 to victory.

Morning Race – High school race# Laps Name Owner Notes1 85 Wildthang Gladstone

10 80 Kitsilano9 77 Fide Gladstone

11 46 Redline Gladstone Broke wheele7 43 Mt. Slesse Broke brake cable

Afternoon Race – Open Class# Laps Name Owner Notes

40 118 Cloud Racing6 103 Delta-Q

10 79 Kitsilano1 54 Wildthang Gladstone Blown tire9 39 Fide Gladstone Electrical problem

Winner of the Raffle PrizeThe winner of the raffle prize,a Meridia electric bicycledonated by Christian of EVVoltage was Aviv Keshet. Heis a member of the UBCElectric Bike club so the prizewas quite apropos. You cansee this bike and others athis store in New West besideCap's Bicycles.

Some comments from WalterI would like to thank all the volunteers in VEVA who makethis race possible every year. Without the people who pitchin, this event would not be possible. We also went to a newlevel this year with the conference. This new event addedto the overall weekend in a very dramatic fashion. Welldone by all.On the sponsor and exhibitor side, we need to recognize allthe corporate and member donations. First is Christian,whose company EV Voltage donated the raffle prize of theMerida bicycle. We need to get shoppers out to his store inNew Westminster. Then Delta-Q for donating the winnerprizes for the two electrathon races. I did notice thembringing in a young lightweight driver to the afternoonrace in an almost successful bid to keep the charger, butShannon Cloud took the patience route and hung on totake the charger home to Dad. Other sponsors such asAinsworth Electric and Dave Koehn, with their sponsorshipof the power set-up, Deka batteries with their cashdonation, St. John's Ambulance who come out to assistand the Scouts who fed us, Dynasty who spentconsiderable dollars to put a large number of vehicles infront of us, as well as sponsoring the posters, StormBrewing for hosting our BBQ, and the list goes on. The Cityof Vancouver was again very helpful in renting us the site. Andrew of Yellow Cab spent a lot of his own time, and tiedup his Prius, explaining things to attendees.On the member level, everyone pitched in. Russ for gettingthings going, John and Alan for the variety of things all yearand the conference, Gordon for keeping all the emails andwebsite flowing, Robert for the bicycle area again, and themany who pitched in Saturday to keep the course set-upand the races going. For a bunch of volunteers and unpaidprofessionals, we do very well. Though late starting andrained on, the BBQ went well.What have I added to the list for next year. At the strategiclevel, we need to get some professional advertising done. This may mean finding some radio and newspapers groupsthat want to sponsor us with advertising. At the site level, Iwould suggest we look at renting the extra lot by the Redbarn and putting all the bicycles and carts in there. I thinkwe still need to have the track, as the electrathon needsthat scale of track, and the cars can use it to demonstrate. I will look at a cheaper method of moving the concrete thanthe crane. Added to my checklists, which will be circulatedto all prior to the next REV, is the speaker system (nobodylistens to me otherwise), our own set of electrathon flags,ordering the trophies, and establishing a menu.Questions to the members. Do we want to do anotherconference day on the Sunday? Do we hold off on theconference until we get the demand from another groupsuch as EAA? Do we upgrade to a Michelin Bibendum daylike in the US, etc.As always, suggestions are welcome, so lets start planningfor next year.

Walter Wardrop, P.Eng Attendees at this years eventPerson Car FromEd Thorpe Corbin

Sparrow California

Vern Wright 1998 FordAspire

University Collegeof the FraserValley

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Person Car FromTerry Wilson EAA

HistorianCupertinoCalifornia

Mike Hoskins 1970 Citroen Edmonton Electric DBC Hydro Dynasty IT VancouverDave Koehn Electrack Maple RidgeHary Snalam Mazda RX7 Richmand Silend

RiderColin Mastin ’79 Omni West Vancouver OmneeAl Godfrey Porsche 928 Richmond Elderly

Gentlemans Town Car

Phil Dayson Solectria ‘96Marko Mongillo ’59 Fiat 600 Oregon City, OR FiampMarko Mongillo Oregon City, OR Pocket

RocketDownTownToyota

Prius Vancouver

John Wayland ’71 Datsun1200

Portland, OR WhiteZombie

Ian Nethercott,Carter Honda

’03 Prius Vancouver

Walter Wardrup ’03 HondaCivic

West Vancouver

Dave Kronstein,Jan

HomebuiltMotor Bike

White Rock Work InProgress

Andrew Grant ’03 Prius Vancouver 146,000km

Andrew Grant ’04 Prius Vancouver 80,000kmJohn Wayland Portland, OR Heavy

MetalGardenTraktor

Ed Thorpe Sparrow CaliforniaDon Crabtree Mini Bike Burien

WashingtonDon Crabtree Go Cart Burien

WashingtonDynasty OKA RichomndDynasty 4 IT’s RichmondDouglasHardwick

HarbourLaunch

Madeira Park

Randy Holmquist Mighti-E-Trax

Errington

Randy Holmquist Mighti-E-Tug ErringtonRandy Holmquist Mighti-E-

TruckErrington

John Foster PontiacFiero

Vancouver

Eric- Coop AutoNet

’03 Prius Vancouver

Jan Engstrom Trike White Rock TheCharger

Rich Rudman Washington GoldieDave Kronstein Go Kart VancouverVEVA 1912 Detroit Stave Lake

Bikese-Ride Steve VancouverJV Bike Janko VancouverGreen World Gabrielle VancouverInnovativeElectric Drives

Jurgen Coquilam

ElectrathonCloud Racing Dave Cloud WashingtonDelta-Q Roger

StocktonBurnaby

Gladstone Car #9 Vancouver FideGladstone Car #1 Vancouver WildthangGladstone Car #11 Vancouver RedlineKitsilano Car #10 VancouverMt Slesse Car #7 Chilliwack

Marco's littlegreen Fiat'Fiamp' andHarry Snalam'sRX-7 'SilentRider'

John Wayland's 'White Zombie' from Portland Oregon. TheWhite Zombie recently broke through the 100mph barrierfor a street legal EV drag racer. John missed last yearsshow and it was great to see him back this year.

Mike Hoskin's 'Electric D' from Edmonton Alberta. Mikespent a great deal of nail biting time to get his beautiful1970 Citroen finished in time for the show.

Randy Holmquist of Canadian Electric Vehicles inErrington, BC (www.canev.com). Randy brought samplesof his fleet of electric tugs as well as a Might-E Truck.

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The local E Bike vendors were there in force. There is ahuge number of models to choose from. Here Janko isshowing off the Wavecrest E Bike.

Al Godfrey from Richmond always gets the double takeswith his immaculate Porsche 928 conversion. It is using aSiemens A/C motor and controller.

Everyone retired to Storm Brewing after the show for a littleSuds and grub. Thanks again to James for the greathospitality.

Some comments from the internetFrom Don Crabtree aka Father Time

I agree, the show wasgreat. Jessica reallyenjoyed the veggyburgers.I'm sorry the little greenthree wheeler wouldn'trun, but somewherebetween 3:00 am andarriving at the show it

lost it's mind. I think the rain got in. Maybe a golf techcontroller for wood burn.The trip home was also interresting for us. We stopped inBurlington,Wa.for gas and noticed we had no running lights. Theheadlights and emergency flashers still worked so weheaded for Burien. About 1 and ahalf hours later we gothome, the emergency flashers now welded on full time. It'soff to the repair shop to get the lights fixed for next weeksfamily reunion in Crabtree, Oregon. I'm taking the " BlueDragon Fly" to give rides to all the cousins.

Father TimeI had a blast!This wasd one of the best VEVA events of the last 5 or 6 Ihave been to.I made it home in one piece. I had a few "Spins" in theRanger towing Goldie. Side ways on the I-5 to 104 Exitramp is a great way to wake up.... No Damage... and I DIDmake the 11:45 Boat to Kingston.Wet,Tired, Sunburned and 7 minutes to make the last Boatof the night...is not a Safe way to drive. I let John Wayland(aka Plasma Boy) fry the last of my oldburn out tires off of Goldie, We have photos and somebodyhas Video. It was windy, but She made enough Smoke tohide in STILL!. Those old Optimas are getting tired, butthey still can do a Damn Fine Smoke show.I almost lost the front right Fender when the tire belts brokeloose at Redline. I lost some wiring and paint and somebent stuff. But Hey The Fun of Wayland trying to breakGoldie... is priceless. Comment of the Day ": Gezzz you aughta put Goldie's HalfShafts in Gone Postal"... Something to be said for Good STOCK half shafts...

Rich RudmanManzanita Micro

www.manzanitamicro.com

If this kid had been askedfor his comments I am surehe would have said howmuch fun he was havingdriving this little electric jeep.Roger has a similar one youcan see at:

http://www.geocities.com/sorefeets/ev/powerwheels/

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Ed Thorpe from California brought up his highly modifiedsparrow. It has been loaded with Optima Yellow Topbatteries and a Godzilla controller for that extra bit ofoomph.

Douglas Hardwick of Harbour launch brought this beautifullittle electric runabout. He and his family use if for daytripping and getting about up in Madeira Park.EAA Conference

The conference was very well attended. We hadrepresentatives from all over North America and worldclass presentations by several groups. Proffesors AndyFranks presentation on the Future Truck and the researchthey are doing on pluggable hybrids was very informative. Itook the core of his presentation to say that if done carefullya plug in hybrid with a 60 mi battery only range can be buildand be cost efficient with a normal ICE version of the samevehicle while at the same time the amount of polution is

reduced dramatically. You can have your cake and eat ittoo – it only requires vision. I wish them good luck in thisyears competition.See: http://mae.ucdavis.edu/%7Efuturecar/FutureTruck/ formore information on their project.Walter Wardrup followed up with a great presentation onthe H2 Leader project and the plans to build the so calledhydrogen hiway.Mountain Power presented their research (as much as theywould tell us) on LiIon battery systems. They showed avehicle capacity battery that fits inside an 8x12x16 (?) sizepelican case. This is currenlty being tested by CommercialBody Builders in one of the IT cars.At this point I had to leave and so missed the presentationsby Rail Power and Phll Dayson. Maybe some of the otherclub members present can put some comments togetherfor a future newsletter.Many of us met at the Spaghetti Factory in Gastown for awrapup dinner and great gab.

Lawrence Harris, EditorSchedule

Time Presenter Session

9:00 AM Ron FreundHaakonMcCallum

EAA Chair Introduction for WebcamAudience VEVA & EAA Chapters Roll Call,General Introductions

9:15-11:30(withcoffeebreak)

(Panel) Panel on Grid-Pluggable Hybrids:Presentations followed by Q&A session Ron Freund - Plug-in-Hybrids Slide Presentation with remote

(phone-in) presentation by Dr. AndyFrank of the University of CaliforniaDavis

Dave “Goldie” Goldstein President ofEVA DC

Walter Wardrop of CME/IRAP on “H2Leader - a Plug-in H2 ICE hybrid”

11:30 -12:00

FrankDonnelly CTO,RailPowerTechnologies

Green Goat Hybrid Switcher Locomotive(Presentation and video)

12:00-1:00

Lunch Break Lunch break at McDonalds or Burger King

1:00-1:30 Philip DaysonDynastyElectric CarCorp

An EV manufacturer’s Perspective

1:30-2:00pm

RogerStocktonDelta QTechnologies

PFC Chargers

2:00-2:30 Dave MillerSenior HWEngineerMountainPower Labs

Modular Lithium Ion Battery ManagementSystems

2:30-2:45 (Coffee Break)

2:45-3:35 Re-Convene for break-out sessions

3:45-4:30 Optional Electric Tram Ride to the repairbarn for an informal presentation - get onat Science World, off at next stop - roundtrip for entire 3-stop tour is $2

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For Sale1. Two Electracs to be rebuilt, plus accessories. Contact

Dave Koehn 604-467-60282. Two – 24 volt DC traction motors, 2-3 hp size. Contact

Dave Koehn 604-467-60283. For Sale: NiCads for EV's or RE:

Saft NiCd 130Ah 5 cell blocks (6V nominal) - SRX1300Phttp://tinyurl.com/2v74fHigh discharge units about the footprint of a group 31,but taller, with 12mm posts. Hoppecke FNC 100Ahsinge cells (1.25V nominal) http://tinyurl.com/2k9yrThese are little cubes roughly 4x4x4".We have thousands of pounds of both (don't have exactcount.)John Foster johnfoster@look.ca (604)602-0379Make an offer

4. I have decided to sell my "Electric Hare" (1982 VWRabbit). I have not used it for 3 years and my son in lawthen used it to commute from Sorrento to Salmon Arm(about 25k each way). However last summer thebatteries seemed to be losing their strength. I don'twant to buy new batteries for the little I use it. Also a tirewent flat and is no good now. It has low rollingresistance Goodyear tires. At time of conversion the"Hare" would go 80k between charges and would couldbe driven at 75 to 80 k on the highway without drawingtoo much juice from the batteries. It has 20 6V deepcycle Trojan batteries plus a 12V accessory battery. 9inch Advanced DC motor, PMC speed controller, onboard K&W 120V charger, on board 12V accessorybattery charger, 12V vacuum pump for the powerbrakes, regenerative braking, and a electric meter to tellyou how many KW you use each charge. It seats thedriver plus one passenger as part oh the battery pack isin the rear of the car. Part of the pack is under the hood.In the 8 years I have had the car it has been free frombreak downs except for 2 blown in line fuses and 1 flattire. The fuse problems were splashing water where itshouldn't be and carelessness when cleaning thebattery connections. The car is red with lightning bolts

on the sides.I am asking $2250.00Thanks Bob AndersenPhone: 250-828-2073Email: andersenbob@hotmail.comKamloops.

Member AreaGoto www.veva.bc.ca, username veva, password isrevshow.

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VANCOUVER ELECTRIC VEHICLE ASSOCIATIONVEVA is registered under the Societies Act of British Columbia as a NonProfit Organization. The AIMS of VEVA are:

To educate and support members with the design, construction, orpurchase decision of EVs.

To educate the public on the economical and ecological benefits ofEVs by participation in rallies, parades, exhibitions, and tradeshows.

To lobby government to implement legislation conducive to the useof electric vehicles.

To collect nominal membership fees for the purpose of publishing anewsletter and to solicit donations to further these AIMS.

VEVA meets on the third Wednesday of each month at 7:30 PM (Julyand August excluded) in the BCIT SE1 Cafeteria, 3700 Willingdon Ave,Burnaby. VEVA is open to membership by any individual ororganization.

For a one-year membership, please send a cheque for $25 ($10 forstudents attending school) to:

Vancouver Electric Vehicle AssociationPO Box 3456349 West GeorgiaVancouver, B.C.Canada V6B 3Y4

For more information about VEVA or about electric vehicles in general,

Phone: (604) 878-9500 (24 hours)Fax: (604) 327-8246E-mail: info@veva.bc.caWeb: www.veva.bc.caLibrary: Delta-Q, Unit 3 5250 Grimmer St. Burnaby

Lawrence Harris is the VEVA newsletter editor. He can be contacted at604-244-3225 or at newsletter@veva.bc.ca

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