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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL
CIRCUIT IN AND FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA
CIVIL DIVISION
NEIL GILLESPIE
Pla in t i f f Case No.: 05CA7205
Divis ion : F
vs .
BARKER RODEMS & COOK P.A.
a Flor ida corpora t ion; and
WILLIAM J . COOK
Defendants.
_/
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE: Honorable Richard A. Niel sen
Circu i t Judge
TAKEN AT: Hil lsborough County CourthouseTampa Florida
DATE: June 28 2006
TIME: 3:30 p.m.
REPORTER:Will iam HerrmannCourt Reporter
Notary PublicSta te of Flor ida a t Large
Ber ryh i l l & Assoc ia tes Inc.813-229-8225
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APPEARANCES
RYAN CHRISTOPHER RODEMS, ESQUIRE
Barker, Rodems & Cook, PA
400 North Ashley Drive, Sui te 2100
Tampa, FL 33602
NEIL J . GILLESPIE, (pro se l i t i gan t )
8092 SW 115 t Loop
Ocala , Flor ida 34481
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INDEX
PAGE
Appearances 2
Index 3
Proceed ings 4
e r t i f i c a t e o f eporter 23
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PROCEEDINGS
THE COURT: What case?
MR RODEMS:Your Honor, t h i s i s G i l l e s p i e v.
Barker and J . Cook, William J . Cook.
THE COURT: All r igh t , what s up for today?
MR RODEMS: Your Honor, the f i r s t motion i s
the defendant s Motion to Compel Discovery and to
cont inue p l a i n t i f f s hearing on his Motion for
Summary Judgment. That was served, I be l i eve , on
May 11 t•
THE COURT: Yes, s i r , I see t ha t . And go
ahead.
MR RODEMS: All r igh t . Your Honor, Chris
Rodems for defendants . On June - - on March 28 t
2006, we served some i n t e r roga to r i e s and a Request
for Product ion on Mr. Gi l l esp ie . We d i d n t
5 treceive a response. On May of 2006, I sent an
e-mai l to Mr. Gil lesp ie advis ing him t ha t the
in te r roga tor ie s were overdue and it s our good-
f a i t h e f fo r t to t ry to resolve it. Fina l ly a week
ago, on June 21 s t 2006, very untimely, we
rece ived responses to the i n t e r roga t o r i e s and a
response to the Request for Produc t ion and a
number of object ion to each but , of course ,
untimely object ions to discovery are waived under
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s ha l l be spec i f ied, closed quote . He d i d n t make
2 those ob jec t i ons in h i s Apri l 29th l e t t e r .
3 He a l so promised in t ha t l e t t e r and d i d n t
4 f u l f i l l t tha t he would send us the responses by
5 May 17 th• I t says, quote - and I m reading from
6 h is l e t t e r which he a t t ached to Exhib i t 3 - to a
7 motion t ha t he f i l ed today, quote , in the
8 a l t e r na t i ve , I wi l l respond to your Request for
9 Product ion by mail ing copies of the i tems
1 reques ted , comma sub jec t to ob jec t ion , comma, by
May 15 t 2006, c losed quote. That d id not
12 happen. He a l so made the same promise about the
13 i n t e r roga tory answers and t ha t did not happen.
14 So, what we r e seeking today i s an order , Your
15 Honor, compell ing him to respond to the
16 i n t e r r oga to r i e s without the ob jec t ions and for
17 a t t o rn e y s fees . He r a i sed a number of ob jec t ions
18 on pr iv i l ege and t h e r e s some debate, I be l i eve ,
19 st ll in the appe l l a t e cour t s about whether
2 pr i v i l e ge s can be waived by not t imely objec t ing .
21 But regard less of whether they can or cannot , he
d i d n t provide a pr iv i l ege log as r equ i r ed by
23 Flor ida Rule of Civ i l Procedure 1.280 (b) (5) .
4 As fa r as the i n t e r r oga to r i e s , in a number of
25 the answers he says he was r e ly ing on Flo r ida Rule
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of Civ i l Procedure 1.340, sub paren C, which, as
2 Your Honor knows, i s the opt ion to produce
3 records . The only problem was, he d i d n ' t produce
4 any records , d idn ' t make any ava i l ab le to us and
5 d i dn ' t point to us in these unproduced o r
undeclared records where we could f ind the answers
7 to i n t e r ro g a t o r i e s . Ins tead , h is response was,
8 You have these records , and he says we have them
9 from rep re sen t ing him in the pas t . But I would
1 poin t out to the Court two th ings : F i r s t o f a l l ,
11 t h a t ' s not proper procedure under Rule 1 .340(c ) ;
12 you can ' t j u s t say, you a l ready know , t h a t ' s not
13 the way you respond. And second, our
14 r ep resen ta t ion of him ended some four or f ive
IS years ago. So, whatever has happened the l a s t
6 four or f ive years , we c e r t a in ly have no idea
17 about . So, hi s responses are de f i c i e n t in t h a t
18 regard .
19 Now we've a l so moved to con t inue h i s August
1s t2 Motion for Summary Judgment on the ba s i s tha t
21 he h a sn ' t provided the discovery t ha t we've
22 reques ted
23 THE COURT: All r i gh t . Well, we ' l l t ake t ha t
24 up i we have t ime a t the end of t h i s hea r ing .
25 Le t ' s address - - are you through with your
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discovery i ssues?
MR RODEMS: Yes s i r .
3 THE COURT: Mr. Gil lespie?
4 MR GILLESPIE: Good af te rnoon, Judge. I did
5 respond to the defendant s Request for Product ion.
6 Attached i s a - - to my p l a i n t i f f s Motion for an
7 Order of Protec t ion , Exhibi t 3. I address each
area of product ion. This i s in reply to
9 defendan t s Request for Product ion. They were
1 demanding tha t I come to t he i r of f i c e on May the
4U, 2006 a t 9:00 a.m. I objec ted to t h e i r
12 reques t and I t o ld him I wi l l not appear i n h i s
13 of f i c e for any reason due to h is t h r e a t s aga ins t
14 me. And Judge he has asked for a b a i l i f f to be
15 here; for him to ask me to come to h i s of f i ce , I
16 th ink , i s outrageous.
17 I offered to - - in the a l t e rna t i ve , I of fe red
18 to respond to h is reques t by mai l ing copies of the
19 i tems requested subject to ob jec t ion by May 15 t•
20 He never responded to t h i s o ther than to f i l e h is
21 Motion to Compel. And with regard to the
22 in te r roga tor ie s , I gave him the same answer I
23 wil l provide the answers subject to ob jec t ion by
24 May 15 t; again he did not respond to t ha t o ther
25 than to f i l e a Motion to Compel. And he f i l ed
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tha t Motion to Compel before May 15th
• So, when
2 he did tha t , I took tha t as a cons t ruc t ive
re jec t ion of what he was offe r ing - - of what I
4 of fe red him and, therefore , I j u s t responded to
5 his Motion to Compel with t h i s l e t t e r o f
6 pro tec t ion and the responses are a t t ached .
7 I also noted tha t he has - - a l l the i tems
8 requested to which you are e n t i t l e d by way o f your
9 pr i o r r ep resen ta t ion of me. Now Mr. Rodems has
1 t o ld the Court t ha t t h i s was four or f ive years
11 ago and t h a t s t rue , but nothing pe r t i ne n t to t h i s
12 case has happened dur ing t ha t t ime. The mat te r s
3 t ha t he knows about involve fraud and breach of
14 cont rac t are from t ha t t ime per iod .
15 I m asking the Court in my Order of
6 Protect ion to l imi t t he i r tha t the records
7 asked to be produced are kept in Ocala . I f Mr.
18 Rodems wants to view them because he r e j e c t e d my
19 of f e r to send copies , then he can view them a t the
2 Marion County Law Library upon not ice to me. And
21 the law l i b r a ry has f ac i l i t i e s t he re to copy the
22 documents for Mr. Rodems. It s a l so a secure
23 f a c i l i t y with a ba i l i f f present as i s requ i red
24 here .
25 As to the discovery where I invoke the
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a t torney-c l ien t pr iv i l ege , I m going to ask t ha t
2 t ha t discovery be prohib i ted . He s asked for my
3 medical records which bear nothing on t h i s case
4 whatsoever. I v e asked - I v e invoked the
5 doc to r -pa t i en t p r iv i l ege and asked for t ha t
6 discovery to be prohib i ted .
7 As to the discovery I objec ted to , I ask the
8 Court to proh ib i t t ha t discovery and to r e ly on
9 the records under Rule 1.340(c) , opt ion to produce
1 records . The records are a l ready in t h e i r
possess ion and, spec i f ica l ly , those records are
12 the answers to i n t e r roga to r i e s in two cases : That
3 would be the Amscott lawsui t and the Ace l awsu i t .
14 The discovery for produc t ion of documents in those
15 lawsui ts , a depos i t ion on May 14 2001,
16 se t t lement on October 30 t and November p o f 2001
17 and another depos i t ion on October 10 lh 2000 and
18 another se t t lement on June 12 t 2000. I fee l
19 t ha t they have every th ing t ha t t h e y r e e n t i t l e d
20 t o .
21 And I also asked - because Mr. Rodems
22 ind ica ted tha t he in tends to depose Am scot t s
23 a t to rney , Mr. John -
24 THE COURT: Emmanuel.
25 MR GILLESPIE: Pardon?
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THE COURT: Wasn t it Emmanuel?
2 MR GILLESPIE: No it s
3 THE COURT: Pardon me.
4 MR GILLESPIE: - - Mr. Anthony. I asked for a
5 preemptive l e t t e r of pro tec t ion as to the sub jec t
6 mat te r allowed, the t ime, place and s e c ur i t y
7 dura t ion and persons in a t tendance . T h a t s a l l I
8 have to say on tha t and then I have some comments
9 about t he i r Motion to Continue Summary Judgment.
1 THE COURT: Mr. Rodems?
MR RODEMS: All r igh t . Fi r s t o f a l l , Judge,
12 t h i s cont inued a l l ega t ion by Mr. G i l l e s p i e t ha t
13 t h e r e s been a t h r e a t agains t him, t h e r e s been no
14 t h r e a t agains t him; he i s the one t ha t th rea tened
15 me when we had a te lephone conversa t ion and he
16 t o ld me he was going to slam me up aga ins t your
17 hear ing chambers wall . Th a t s never been
18 followed, but he cont inues to repeat it in every
19 plead ing and then, you know, the idea i s t ha t , I
20 guess, i f you ve got j ud i c i a l immunity from what
21 you say - - but the bottom l i ne i s , i s t h a t t h e r e s
22 been nothing but cord ia l behavior on our par t .
23 We ve asked him to send the records to us . He s
24 phras ing t h i s record - - the l e t t e r of Apr i l 29 th
25 as his reques t ; t h e r e s nothing in here t ha t
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reques ts me to do anything. He d i d n t give us the
2 records . He's the one tha t asse r t ed he would send
] them to me by May 15 th • Ei ther way, they were
l a t e . He f i l ed no object ions , he did not f i l e a
5 Motion fo r Continuance, he did not ask me for a
6 cont inuance, he did not f i l e a Motion for
7 Pro tec t ive Order. He j u s t did not do anyth ing
8 un t i l a week ago, knowing t ha t t h i s hear ing was
9 the books by t ha t t ime.
1 As fa r as his argument the records are in our
possess ion, we are en t i t l ed to discovery in t h i s
12 case of the mat te rs t ha t he has. I f he has
13 records tha t he says we can gather a l l the answers
14 t ha t we're seeking, h e s got an ob l iga t ion to
15 produce those . He can t j u s t say, you have them N
16 or you know the answer N; t h a t s not a proper
17 discovery response .
18 We're in a s i t ua t ion here, Judge, where Mr.
19 Gi l l esp ie i s not fol lowing the Flor ida Rules of
2 Civ i l Procedure. And so we're here saying, look,
21 the ru les say 3 days to respond; i you choose to
not respond for severa l months and u n t i l a week
23 before the hearing, you know, we have - - we re
24 e n t i t l e d to have the ru les complied with by Mr.
25 Gi l l esp ie . And we would ask you to ru l e h i s
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objec t ions unt imely as the case law h o l d s , o rd e r
2 him to prov ide the d i scovery . And if you want to
3 s e t a spec ia l procedure for how he can produce the
4 records to us, I d o n t have any problem with t ha t ,
5 but t h a t d o e s n t excuse f a i l i n g to respond to the
6 Request for Product ion u n t i l a week ago or the
i n t e r ro g a t o r i e s un t i l a week ago.
8 MR GILLESPIE: May I respond to t ha t , Judge?
9 THE COURT: Jus t a moment. Mr. Rodems,
1 address the i ssue of the l oca t ion of p roduc t ion in
t h i s s i t u a t i o n where y o u r e ask ing p ro d u c t i o n from
2 the p l a i n t i f f and y o u r e ask ing for it to be
3 produced in Hil lsborough County.
14 MR RODEMS: Well , the - he brought the case
5 in Hil lsborough County, Mr. G i l l e s p i e d id . And we
16 t h ink it s ap p ro p r i a t e s ince t h i s i s - obviously
7 hear ing t h i s case in Hil lsborough County, we t h ink
18 it s appropr ia te to have the records t h a t we ve
9 reques ted produced here . I f he wants to charge us
2 15 cen t s a page, if the records d o n t exceed 1,000
2 pages , w e l l be happy to pay 15 cen t s if he can
22 send us cop ies . I have no o b j e c t i o n to t h a t as a
23 procedure . You know, so t h a t s p e r f e c t l y f ine .
24 THE COURT: All r i g h t . As to the ob jec t ions ,
25 those are over ru led as being unt imely f i l e d .
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MR GILLESPIE: Judge, can I
2 THE COURT: No s i r . Let me f i n i sh my ru l ing ,
3 s i r . The way it opera tes i s the par ty br inging
4 the motion ge ts to argue, the par ty responding
ge ts a response, the par ty br ing ing the motion
6 ge ts a reply and then it s over unless I ask for
7 some c la r i f i ca t ion . That app l ies not j u s t to pro
8 se par t i e s but everybody tha t comes i n to t h i s
9 hearing room. Do you unders tand?
MR GILLESPIE: Thank you, Judge.
THE COURT: As to the produc t ion , the Rule
12 1.340(c) wil l apply , Mr. Gi l l esp ie , if
13 appropr ia te , as to records t ha t are in your
14 possess ion and kept in the ordinary course of your
record-keeping. I bel ieve you wil l f ind if you
16 research tha t ru le and the terms of the ru l e t ha t
17 tha t permits the opposing party to i n spec t those
18 records as they are kept, In the l oca t ion t ha t
19 they are kept. So, you have the a l t e rna t ive to
comply in tha t manner. In some of your responses ,
21 I th ink you suggest tha t tha t i s not acceptable to
22 you, but I m j u s t t e l l i ng you tha t i s one of your
23 opt ions . I t i s not an opt ion tha t records kept in
24 someone e l s e s possess ion , whether it i s the
p la in t i f f , the defendant or a co-defendant or co
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p l a i n t i f f , it i s a r i g h t t h a t e x i s t s only as to
2 the pa r ty d i r e c t l y responding. So you must
respond to t h e Request for Product ion e i t h e r by
4 as I say making those records a v a i l a b l e wherever
5 they are kept in your possess ion; you can make
6 co p ies o f them sub jec t to p r i o r agreement of the
7 p a r t i e s as to volume co s t and t h e l i k e , which i s
R t y p i c a l l y done; or you wil l have to produce them
9 in Hi l l sborough County.
1 Now you can se l e c t the l oca t ion in Hil l sborough
11 County if you dec ide to produce them in
12 Hi l l sborough County.
13 I f anyone wants s ecu r i t y prov ided fo r t ha t ,
14 t h a t s ecu r i t y w i l l be a t the cos t o f t h e p a r ty
15 reques t ing the s ecu r i t y . In o t h e r words t h a t
16 pa r ty , whether it s in Marion County o r
17 Hil lsborough County or some n eu t r a l s i t e in
18 between the pa r ty t h a t wants se c u r i t y makes
19 arrangements for t ha t s ecu r i t y a t t h e i r own cos t .
20 The reason t h a t t h e r e s a b a i l i f f p re s e n t i n t h i s
21 hear ing room i s t ha t it i s the p o l i c y o f t h i s
Cour t whenever t h e r e s a pro se p a r ty , a b a i l i f f
23 i s p res en t i n t h e cour t room - - o r in t h e h ea r in g
24 room o r cour t room. And t h a t s not j u s t my pol icy ,
25 but the p o l i cy o f most othe r j udges and I th ink ,
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the preference of the Sher i f f , David Gee, in
2 Hi l l sborough County.
3 As to any p r iv i l eg e t h a t y o u r e r a i s i n g fo r
4 now and s u b j ec t to any cour t dec i s ions t h a t may
5 sway me to the con t ra ry , I m pre se rv ing t h o s e
6 objec t ions , but those objec t ions must be s t a t e d
7 sp e c i f i c a l l y , a p r iv i l eg e log must be produced in
8 accordance wi th the Rules of C i v i l Procedure so
t h a t - and I won t r e c i t e t h a t to you, but in
1 essence you must descr ibe the document
s u f f i c i e n t l y t h a t it can be - some assessment
12 could be made, not only by the o t h e r p a r t y but by
13 t h e Court as to the s u f f i c i e n c y o f t h e c l a im o f
14 p r iv i l eg e on the document and the na tu re of the
15 p r iv i l eg e being asse r ted .
16 Did I miss anyth ing in your motion, Mr.
17 Rodems?
18 MR RODEMS: Yes, s i r , t h e i s sue about
19 a t t o rn e y s fees fo r b r ing ing t h i s motion.
20 THE COURT: That w i l l be g ran t ed and I ll
21 al low the p a r t i e s to e i t h e r agree on some
22 ap p ro p r i a t e amount o r you can se t a s ep a r a t e
23 h ea r in g on t ha t i s sue .
24 MR RODEMS: That covers it, Your Honor.
25 THE COURT: All r i g h t . Now it s 4:39 . M r .
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G i l l e s p i e , you have one minute .
2 MR RODEMS: Your Honor I m so r ry , t h e r e was
3 the second p a r t of my motion about the con t inuance
4 o f the summary judgment motion.
THE COURT: When i s summary judgment se t ?
6 MR RODEMS: I be l ieve t h a t s sch ed u led August
7 1s t but obviously - and I guess we a l s o did not
8 di scuss a t ime frame to comply with t h i s C o u r t s
9 order today.
1 THE COURT: Mr Gil lesp ie , i s 20 days
su f f i c i e n t ?
12 MR GILLESPIE: What parameters a re av a i l ab l e
3 fo r mai l ing and so fo r th?
14 THE COURT: Well depending on the - when the
15order ge t s over here , y o u l l have 20 days from the
16 date of the o rder and on the 20 th day from the
17 da te of order , they must be shown as postmarked.
18 MR GILLESPIE: Are you o v e r ru l i n g - did I
19 hear you r i g h t , y o u r e ove r ru l ing the ob jec t ions?
20 THE COURT: I m o v e r ru l i n g a l l o b jec t i o n s
21 except as to p r iv i l eg e .
22 MR GILLESPIE: Can I t ake an i n t e r l o c u t o ry
23 appeal on t h i s , Judge?
24 THE COURT: Y o u l l have to make t h a t dec i s ion
25 on your own based upon your assessment o f my cour t
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ru l ing and the ap p l i cab l e case law.
2 MR GILLESPIE: Yes I - I have some case law
3 here bu t I guess I d i d n t p res en t it t ime ly
4 enough. But in any even t , w i l l t h a t s t a y your
5 co u r t order?
6 THE COURT: Y o u l l have to check t he r u l e s on
t h a t , s i r .
8 MR GILLESPIE: Okay. I m probab ly going to
9 t ak e an i n t e r l o cu to r y appeal because I do be l i eve
1 t h a t Mr. Rodems was n o t i f i e d t h a t I objec t ed and
it was qui t e c l ea r in my Apri l 29 th l e t t e r to him.
12 I would a l so poin t out to the Cour t t h a t pro se
13 l i t i g a n t s are not held to the same s t r i n g e n t
14 requi rement as a t to rneys because they h a v e n t gone
15 to lawschool
and t h e y r enot
members o f t h e Bar
16 and I t h ink t h a t t h i s l e t t e r meets t he
17 requ i rements o f a pro se l i t i g a n t .
18 THE COURT: Al l r i g h t , s i r . t makes fo r an
19 i n t e r e s t i n g i s sue .
2 MR GILLESPIE: Okay. And as fo r t he - I
21 t h ink you sa id something about 15 c e n t s a page o r
22 someone sa id t h a t -
2J THE COURT: Well you can t a l k about t h a t
24 out s ide the cour t room.
25 MR GILLESPIE: - t h a t s what t h e law l i b r a ry
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charges . I would seek the maximum under Flor ida
2 law I th ink it s a d o l l a r a page.
3THE COURT: It s a
d o l l a r fo r the c l e rk o f the
4 cour t , it s not going to be an amount t h a t I m
5 going to approve.
6 MR GILLESPIE: Okay.
7 THE COURT: Or f ind to be reasonab le .
8 Legi s l a tu re apparen t ly has found it to be
9 reasonab le for t h e c l e rk to charge t ha t , but
1 t h a t s charg ing fo r l abor and t h e s e r v i ce s o f the
c l e rk of the cour t . I ll not ru le on t ha t ,
12 whether it s reasonab le o r not .
13 MR GILLESPIE: Okay.
14 MR RODEMS: Your Honor we do have a summary
1 s t15 judgment hear ing scheduled on August and we
16 would j u s t ask t h a t t h a t be con t inued u n t i l we can
17 complete discovery . And I have the case law on
18 t h a t i s s u e a l so .
9 THE COURT: Well Mr. G i l l e s p i e , do you want
2 agree to t ha t o r r e se t t h i s i s sue?
21 MR GILLESPIE: No w e l l r e s e t t h a t because
22 t h i s i s n t even a mat t e r fo r the Uniform Discovery
23 Motion Calendar and
24 THE COURT: I m so r ry ?
25 MR GILLESPIE: - - we can r e se t t ha t .
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THE COURT: On the summary judgment? You re
agreeing to the re se t t ing of t ha t?
3 MR GILLESPIE: No I m not agreeing .
4 THE COURT: All r igh t . So your motion w i l l be
5 r e se t .
6 MR RODEMS: On the cont inuance of the summary
7 judgment, I need to rese t i t ?
8 THE COURT: That s cor rec t .
9 MR RODEMS:Yes, s i r .
Wese t
t
today
1 because the j ud i c i a l ass i s t an t advised t ha t we
should do the d i scovery and t ha t a t the same t ime.
12 Is there a - i s t okay to se t the cont inuance of
13 the summary judgment on the t r a d i t i o n a l or the
14 customary UM document -
15 THE COURT: I th ink you can probably do tha t .
16 MR RODEMS: Yes, s i r .
17 THE COURT: That s f ive minutes per s ide .
18 MR RODEMS: Okay. And t h a t s in the morning.
19 Mr. Gil lesp ie has had problems with t ha t before .
20 As long as I m able to schedule a hear ing pr i o r to
21 August p I o n t h i s , I m f ine but , obvious ly , i f
22 the Court were to ru le t ha t we were not to get a
23 cont inuance, I would need t ime to complete the
24 discovery. So, i f Mr. Gi l l esp ie can coopera te
25 with me in ge t t ing a hear ing scheduled with in the
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next two weeks I t h ink it would be f ine .
THE COURT: Well my j ud i c i a l a s s i s t a n t has
3 l e f t fo r the day. We are not here nex t week so
4 t ha t l i m i t s your t ime s ubs t a n t i a l l y . And if you
5 t h ink you need add i t iona l t ime beyond 10
6 minutes -
7 MR RODEMS: I d o n t th ink so.
8 THE COURT: - I would mention it to her and
w e l l t r y to accommodate t h a t sometime in the next
1 few weeks.
MR RODEMS: Yes s i r . Okay. And i s it a l l
12 r i g h t i f I prepare the proposed orde r , Your Honor?
13 THE COURT: Yes s i r .
14 MR RODEMS: Okay. And of course , I ll
15 t r ansmi t t ha t to Mr. Gil lesp ie be fore br ing ing it
16 to the Court . And was the 20 days based on -
17 THE COURT: Date of the orde r .
18 MR RODEMS: - date of the order? Yes s i r .
19 Thank you fo r your t ime Judge.
20 MR GILLESPIE: Thank you Judge. And Your
21 Honor would you ask t ha t Mr. Rodems l eave the
22 area . The l a s t t ime he l e f t , he was t au n t i n g me
3 in the hal lway and I d o n t want t ha t to happen
24 today.
5 THE COURT: Well you can s t ay nex t to my
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ba i l i f f un t i l he goes home and then you can decide
what you want to do, s i r
3 MRGILLESPIE: Thank you.
MR RODEMS: Good day, Your Honor.
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C-E-R-T-I-F-I-C-A-T-E
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF HILLSBOROUGH
I , WILLIAM HERRMANN Court Reporter fo r the
Circui t Court of the Thi r teenth Jud ic ia l Circui t of the
Sta te of F lor ida , in and for Hillsborough County,
DO HEREBY CERTIFY, t ha t I was author ized to and did ,
through the County of Hil lsborough, r epor t in shor thand the
proceedings and evidence in the above-s ty led cause, as
s t a t ed in the capt ion here to , and tha t the fo rego ing pages,
numbered 1 to 22 inc lus ive , c o n s t i t u t e a t r ue and c o r re c t
t r a n s c r i p t i o n of my s tenograph ic repor t o f sa i d proceedings
and evidence.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto s e t my hand in the
City of Tampa, County of Hil lsborough, Sta te of Flor ida t h i s
5th day of Ju ly , 2006.
WILLIAM HERRMANN Court Reporte r ,
By w . / L . . ~ Will iam Herrmann
Ber ryh i l l Assoc ia tes , Inc .
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heet 3 Insurance - privilege
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privileqes [1] 6:20 record [1]11:24 34:3,6,13,148:2 9:9 1621:11,13,1822:2
pro [5]2:6 14:7 15:22 record-keeping [1] 18,2210:2111:10,11 site [1]15:17
18:12 17 14:15 13:9 1416:17 18 24 situation [2]12:18 13:probably [2]18:8 20: records [21]7:3 4 6 8 17:2,618:1019:14 11
15 9:1610:3 9 10 10 11 20:6 9 16 1821:7 11 slam [1]11:16
problem [3] 5:23 7:3 11:2312:2,10,1313: 14 18 21 22:4 So.2d [3] 5:4 5 6
13:4 4 18 2014:13 18 23 room [3]14:9 15:21 someone [2]14:24
problems [1]20:19 15:4 24 18:22Procedure [7] 6:23 7: regard [2]7:188:21 Rule [11]5:20 6:23 sometime [1]21:9
1,1112:2013:3,23 regarding [1]5:21 257:11 10:912:25 sorry [2]17:2 19:24
16:8 regardless [1]6:21 14:11,16,1619:1120: special [1]13:3
PROCEEDINGS [4]1: rejected [1]9:18 22 specifically [2]10:11
134:123:9,12 rejection [1] 9:3 rules [6]5:2412:19, 16:7
Proceedings............... rely [1]10:8 21,2416:818:6 specified [1]6:1
.................4 [1]3:5 relying [1]6:25 ruling [2]14:2 18:1 stand [1]5:7
produce [7] 7:2 3 10: repeat [1]11:18 RYAN [1]2:2 State [4]1 :2323:2,6,
15stated [2]16:6 23:10
stay [2]18:4 21 :25
stenographic [1] 23:
12still [1]6:19
stringent [1]18:13
sub [1]7:1
sUbject [6] 6: 10 8: 19
2311:515:616:4
s U b s t a n t i a l l ~ [1] 21:4
sufficiencr 1]16:13
sufficient 1]17:11
sufficiently [1]16:11
suggest [1]14:21
Suite [1]2:4
Summary [9]4:9 7:20
11:917:4,519:1420:1 6 13
SUPf0rt [1] 5:9SW 1]2:7
sway [1]16:5
912:1513:315:8,11 reply [2]8:8 14:6 Sproduced [5]5:169:
1713:13,1916:7
Production [14]4:16,
235:15,196:98:5,8,910:1413:6,10,11
14:1115:3
Productions [1]5:21
prohibit [1]10:8
prohibited [2]10:2,6
promise [1]6:12
promised [1]6:3
proper [2]7:11 12:16proposed [1]21:12
proposition [1]5:7
Protection [4]8:7 9:6
1611:5
Protective [1]12:7provide [3] 6:22 8:23
13:2
provided [2]7:21 15:
13
report [2] 23:8 12
REPORTER [4]1:20,
21 23:4 17
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representation [2]7:
149:9
r e p r e s e n t i n ~ [1] 7:9Request [13 4:15 23
5: 15 19 21 6:88:5,9,
12,1811:2513:615:
3requested [5]6:107:
228:199:813:19
requestinR [1]15:15
requests 1]12:1
required [2] 6:22 9:23requirement [1]18:14
requirements [1]18:
17requires [1]5:21
same [4]6:12 8:22 18:
1320:11
S a Y i n ~ [1]12:20
says ]5:24 6:5 25 7:812:13
schedule [1]20:20
scheduled [3]17:6
19:1520:25
school [1]18:15
se [5]2:6 14:8 15:22
18:12 17second [2]7:13 17:3
secure [1]9:22
security [6]11:6 15:
13 14 15 18 19see [1]4:11
seek [1]19:1seeking [2]6:14 12:
14select [1]15:10
send [6]5:17 6:4 9:19Public [1]1:22 research [1]14:16
11:2312:213:22 TPullum(phonetic [1]
5:5
reset [5]19:20 21 25
20:5 7resettiny [1]20:2
resolve 1] 4:20respond [11] 6:8 15 7:
138:5,18,2412:21,
2213:5,815:3
responded [2]8:20 9:4responding [2]14:4
15:2response [5]4:17,23
7:712:1714:5
responses [6] 4:22 5:
96:47:179:614:20
Richard [1]1:14
RODEMS [33]1:8 2:2
sent [2]4:175:13
separate [1]16:22
served [3]4:9,15 5:9
services [1]19:10
set [6]13:316:2217:
520:9,1223:14
settlement [2]10:16,
18several [1]12:22
shall [1]6:1
Sheriff [1]16:1
shorthand [1]23:8
shown [1]17:17
side [1]20:17
since [1]13:16
sirl13] 4:11 8:2 14:2
316:1818:7,1820:9,
Tampa [3]1:172:5
23:15
taunting [1] 21 :22telephone [1]11:15
terms [1]14:16
there s [8]5:10 6:18
11:13,13,21,2515:20,
22therefore [1] 9:4
THIRTEENTH [2]1:1
23:5
threat [2]11:13,14
threatened [1]11:14
threats [1]8:13
three [1]5:6
timely [2] 6:20 18:3
today [6]4:5 6:7 14
Q
quite [1]18:11
quote [5] 5:24 6:1 5 7
11
R
raised [1] 6: 17raising [1]16:3
reading [1]6:5
reason [2]8:13 15:20
reasonable [3]19:7,9,
12receive [1]4:17
received [1]4:22
recite [1]16:9
Sheet 4 pnvlleges - today
8/13/2019 TRANSCRIPT Judge Nielsen 3.30pm Jun 28 2006 Discovery
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17:9 20:9 21 :24 4:423:4,17,19took [1]9:2 within [1] 20:25traditional [1] 20: 13 without [1] 6:16
TRANSCRIPT [1]1: WITNESS [1] 23:14
13 words [1] 15:15
transcription [1] 23: y12 years [3] 7:15,16 9:10
transmit [1] 21: 15true [3]5:17 9:1123:
11try [2] 4:20 21:9
two [3] 7:10 10:12 21:
1typically [1] 15:8
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UMC [1] 20:14
undeclared [1] 7:6
under [4] 4:25 7:11
10:919:1
understand [1] 14:9Uniform [1] 19:22
unless [1] 14:6
unproduced [1] 7:5
until [6]12:8 22 13:6,719:1622:1
untimely [6] 4:21,25
5:8 1113:1 25
up [3] 4:5 7:2411:16
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view [2] 9:18,19volume [1] 15:7vs[1]1:7
Wwaived [4] 4:25 5:8,
126:20
wall [1]11 :17
wanted [1] 5: 16
wants [4] 9:1813:19
15:13,18way [4] 7:13 9:8 12:3
14:3week [7] 4:20 5:1012:
8 2213:6 721:3
weeks [2] 21:1,10
whatever [1] 7:15
whatsoever [1] 10:4whenever [1] 15:22WHEREOF [1] 23:14wherever [1] 15:4
whether [5]6:19,2114:2415:1619:12
will [10]6:8 8:12,23
14:12 1515:8 1416:
2018:420:4
WILLIAM [6] 1:10,20