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24 Yorkshire Evening Post,Wednesday, January 12, 2011 www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk Health “O RDER a train ticket, ask for a bus ticket, ring anyone I didn’t know, order a meal, read to my daughter, be the focus of a conversation, introduce myself to anyone, order a drink I wanted at the bar.” That is a list of some of the things Trevor Hatib couldn’t do because of his stammer. Since he was a small boy, the difficulty he had in saying certain words had a massive impact on his life. As well as all the things he couldn’t do, there were the incidents these restrictions caused – the dental work only done on his bottom set of teeth because his orthodontist installed an intercom and he couldn’t use it to get in for another appointment, the eye problem which could have led to blindness because he couldn’t call the hospital to tell them how much it had worsened. When teaching his daughter Stephanie, now 13, to count he would miss out numbers six and seven because he couldn’t say them. “It was heartwrenching at times when I would hear her count and go ‘1,2,3, 4, 5 and then 8’,” he said. “My wife had to say ‘there’s a 6 and 7 in there’.” Trevor suffered from a stammer since the age of four or five. “I was not really aware of it myself but my parents would always tell me to slow down. “When I was at home with friends or my parents, most of the time my speech was fine but when I was out asking for things at the shops or a bus fare, that’s when there would be problems. “From a very early age I was aware there were difficulties there. “In my case I realised if I could avoid saying certain words, then not many people would be aware.” Therefore he became practised at avoidance techniques, such as saying where he wanted to go on the bus rather than asking for a 90p ticket, which he knew he would struggle to say. As an adult he would always drink a half of mild – because he could say that. He said it was the fear of stammering which made the situation worse. “You can feel the adrenaline going round – that was the fear because you are a stammerer. “As a kid I used to walk everywhere because you don’t want the embarrassment.” Stammering, or stuttering as it is known in the US, is a communication problem which is characterised by disruptions which can interrupt the flow and timing of speech. Sufferers can repeat sounds, syllables or words or can stretch out words. “When the pressure is on – job interviews, meetings, on the phone to people I don’t know – you just avoid those situations because you know it could go wrong,” Trevor said. “I started working for the Civil Service 20 years ago and to get the interview I had to phone up and confirm I would be attending. It took my two days to gee myself up to pick up the phone and say who I was.” Over the years, Trevor’s life was often dictated by his stammer. He admits that one of the deciding factors for buying a particular house was that he could say its address, while his wife rang BT to get a phone number which was easier for him to manage with. However he realised his speech was getting worse. “The job I did changed and I was going to meetings where I would have to introduce myself,” he said. “The previous night I would be getting stressed about it.” Embarrassed He describes trying to say his name, getting more and more embarrassed and stressed, until finally the words come out. In 2008 Trevor, from West Park, Leeds, was treated for an eye condition which needed an injection into his eyeball because of the delay in contacting the hospital for treatment. Then his wife Janice, who had seen a programme about how Bradford singer Gareth Gates had overcome his stammer, suggested he needed to take action and Trevor agreed he couldn’t carry on that way. In March 2009 he went on the first of five McGuire Programme courses. The programme teaches techniques to help stammerers to recover, such as breathing in a different way to have more control and get into a rhythm of speaking. But the 46-year-old added that the physical side was only part of it. Also crucial to overcome is the fear. “It’s the fear of speaking, where you are having to give a speech and you know you will have to say words that you cannot say,” he said. “It’s the same as a fear of heights.” To conquer his fear, Trevor confronted it head on. He changed jobs to become an ICT account manager at the Highways Agency in Leeds, a role which involves dealing with senior managers and directors. He also joined the Leeds City Toastmasters public speaking club, has become a coach for the McGuire programme and he is a member of the White Rose Rotary Club, “It’s a matter of pushing your comfort zone,” he explained. “If you keep on pushing your comfort zones then your fear goes down. The only way to deal with the fear is to go in the direction of it. “If I feel there’s a word I cannot say, then I have to go out and say that word.” Thanks to new film The King’s Speech, stammering has been brought to the public’s attention – which Trevor is pleased about. “It’s a disability you don’t see until you open your mouth. “The symptoms that the King had are ones that I had – the avoidance, the fear.” With publicity around the movie increasing awareness of stammering, Trevor now wants to encourage other people to get help and to be assured that things can improve. For him, many things have changed – being able to read to his daughter, ring a taxi or order a meal. “The programme is not a cure so there are times when my speech is bad and you have to work at it,” he said. “But you cannot put a price on being able to pick the words you want to say and then just saying them as opposed to having to thing four of five sentences ahead, work out what words you cannot say and working out alternative words, reworking the sentences so they make sense. It’s exhausting.” For more information, log on to the British Stammering Association website at www.stammering.org. The Leeds City Toastmasters meets at 7pm on the first and third Thursday of the month at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, Wellington Street, Leeds. More on the McGuire programme is at www. mcguireprogramme.com. [email protected] No longer lost It’s a condition which affects 750,000 people in the UK yet it is still little understood and often mocked. As a new film brings the issue of stammering to the big screen, Katie Baldwin heard about a Leeds man’s determination not to let his stammer rule his life INSPIRATION: Gareth Gates THE story of how an unconventional speech therapist helped King George VI with his stammer, The King’s Speech is set to be a box office smash. Days after its release, the film is topping the UK film charts and is also being tipped for Oscar success. Colin Firth takes the title role as Prince Albert, who isn’t expecting to ascend to the throne. But when his brother Edward, then King, decides to abdicate because of his relationship with Wallis Simpson, Albert becomes King George VI. However he must tackle his stammer and the film tells the true story of the king’s friendship with his Australian speech therapist Lionel Logue, played by Geoffrey Rush. Director Tom Hooper previously made the Damned United, about Brian Clough’s short reign at the club. His latest movie was partly shot in Leeds and it also opened last year’s Leeds International Film Festival. Charity the British Stammering Association (BSA) has welcomed the “realistic depiction of the frustration and the fear of speaking faced by people who stammer on a daily basis”, especially Colin Firth’s portrayal of the King’s stammer. They also say the film offers a golden opportunity to talk about stammering and issues around it. TRUE STORY: Colin Firth as King George VI in The King’s Speech Raising awareness on the big screen

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    “ORDERa trainticket, askfor a busticket, ring anyone I didn’tknow, order a meal, read tomy daughter, be the focusof a conversation, introducemyself to anyone, order adrink I wanted at the bar.”That is a list of some of thethings Trevor Hatib couldn’tdo because of his stammer.Since he was a small boy, thedifficulty he had in sayingcertain words had a massiveimpact on his life.As well as all the things he couldn’tdo, there were the incidentsthese restrictions caused– the dental work only doneon his bottom set of teethbecause his orthodontistinstalled an intercom andhe couldn’t use it to get infor another appointment,the eye problem whichcould have led to blindnessbecause he couldn’t call thehospital to tell them howmuch it had worsened.When teaching hisdaughter Stephanie, now13, to count he would missout numbers six and sevenbecause he couldn’t say them.“It was heartwrenching at timeswhen I would hear hercount and go ‘1,2,3,4, 5 and then8’,” he said.“My wife had tosay ‘there’s a 6and 7 in there’.”

    Trevor suffered from a stammersince the age of four or five.“I was not really aware of itmyself but my parents wouldalways tell me to slow down.“When I was at home with friendsor my parents, most of the time my

    speech was fine but whenI was out asking for

    things at the shopsor a bus fare,

    that’s whenthere would

    be problems.“From avery earlyage I wasawarethere weredifficultiesthere.“In my caseI realised if

    I could avoidsaying certainwords, then

    not

    many people would be aware.”Therefore he became practisedat avoidance techniques, suchas saying where he wanted to goon the bus rather than asking fora 90p ticket, which he knew hewould struggle to say. As an adulthe would always drink a half ofmild – because he could say that.He said it was the fear of stammeringwhich made the situation worse.“You can feel the adrenalinegoing round – that was the fearbecause you are a stammerer.“As a kid I used to walkeverywhere because you don’twant the embarrassment.”Stammering, or stuttering as it isknown in the US, is a communicationproblem which is characterised bydisruptions which can interrupt theflow and timing of speech. Suffererscan repeat sounds, syllables orwords or can stretch out words.“When the pressure is on – jobinterviews, meetings, on the phone topeople I don’t know – you just avoidthose situations because you know

    it could go wrong,” Trevor said.“I started working for the

    Civil Service 20 years agoand to get the interviewI had to phone up andconfirm I would be

    attending. It took

    my two days to gee myself up to pickup the phone and say who I was.”Over the years, Trevor’s life wasoften dictated by his stammer.He admits that one of the decidingfactors for buying a particularhouse was that he could say itsaddress, while his wife rang BTto get a phone number which waseasier for him to manage with.However he realised hisspeech was getting worse.“The job I did changed and I wasgoing to meetings where I wouldhave to introduce myself,” he said.“The previous night I would begetting stressed about it.”

    EmbarrassedHe describes trying to say hisname, getting more and moreembarrassed and stressed, untilfinally the words come out.In 2008 Trevor, from West Park,Leeds, was treated for an eyecondition which needed an injectioninto his eyeball because of the delay incontacting the hospital for treatment.Then his wife Janice, who had seena programme about how Bradfordsinger Gareth Gates had overcomehis stammer, suggested he neededto take action and Trevor agreedhe couldn’t carry on that way.In March 2009 he went on the

    first of five McGuire Programmecourses. The programme teachestechniques to help stammerersto recover, such as breathing in adifferent way to have more controland get into a rhythm of speaking.But the 46-year-old added that thephysical side was only part of it. Alsocrucial to overcome is the fear.“It’s the fear of speaking, where youare having to give a speech and youknow you will have to say wordsthat you cannot say,” he said.“It’s the same as a fear of heights.”To conquer his fear, Trevorconfronted it head on. He changedjobs to become an ICT accountmanager at the Highways Agency inLeeds, a role which involves dealingwith senior managers and directors.He also joined the Leeds CityToastmasters public speaking club,has become a coach for the McGuireprogramme and he is a memberof the White Rose Rotary Club,“It’s a matter of pushing yourcomfort zone,” he explained.“If you keep on pushing yourcomfort zones then your fear goesdown. The only way to deal with thefear is to go in the direction of it.“If I feel there’s a word Icannot say, then I have to goout and say that word.”Thanks to new film The King’sSpeech, stammering has beenbrought to the public’s attention– which Trevor is pleased about.“It’s a disability you don’t seeuntil you open your mouth.“The symptoms that the Kinghad are ones that I had – theavoidance, the fear.”With publicity around the movieincreasing awareness of stammering,Trevor now wants to encourageother people to get help and to beassured that things can improve.For him, many things have changed– being able to read to his daughter,ring a taxi or order a meal.“The programme is not a cure so thereare times when my speech is bad andyou have to work at it,” he said.“But you cannot put a price onbeing able to pick the words youwant to say and then just sayingthem as opposed to having to thingfour of five sentences ahead, workout what words you cannot say andworking out alternative words,reworking the sentences so theymake sense. It’s exhausting.”● For more information, log on tothe British Stammering Associationwebsite at www.stammering.org.TheLeeds City Toastmasters meets at7pm on the first and third Thursday ofthe month at the Crowne Plaza Hotel,Wellington Street, Leeds. More onthe McGuire programme is at www.mcguireprogramme.com.

    [email protected]

    No longer lostIt’s a condition which affects 750,000 people in the UK yet it is still littleunderstood and often mocked. As a new film brings the issue of stammeringto the big screen, Katie Baldwin heard about a Leeds man’s determinationnot to let his stammer rule his life

    INSPIRATION:Gareth Gates

    THE story of how an unconventional speechtherapist helped King George VI with hisstammer, The King’s Speech is set to be a boxoffice smash.Days after its release, the film is topping the UKfilm charts and is also being tipped for Oscarsuccess.Colin Firth takes the title role as Prince Albert,who isn’t expecting to ascend to the throne.But when his brother Edward, then King, decidesto abdicate because of his relationship withWallis Simpson, Albert becomes King George VI.However he must tackle his stammer and thefilm tells the true story of the king’s friendshipwith his Australian speech therapist LionelLogue, played by Geoffrey Rush.Director Tom Hooper previously made theDamned United, about Brian Clough’s shortreign at the club.His latest movie was partly shot in Leeds and italso opened last year’s Leeds International FilmFestival.Charity the British Stammering Association(BSA) has welcomed the “realistic depiction ofthe frustration and the fear of speaking faced bypeople who stammer on a daily basis”, especiallyColin Firth’s portrayal of the King’s stammer.They also say the film offers a golden opportunityto talk about stammering and issues around it.

    TRUE STORY: Colin Firthas King George VI inThe King’s Speech

    Raising awareness on the big screen