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Sutherland Traffic and Traffic Safety Committee Meeting
Friday, 03 November 2017
8:30 am
Committee Rooms 203 and 204
Level 2, Administration Building
4-20 Eton Street, Sutherland
Sutherland Traffic & Traffic Safety Committee Meeting 3 November 2017
ORDER OF BUSINESS
1. APOLOGIES
2. DISCLOSURES OF INTEREST
3. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
4. REPORT FROM OFFICERS
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Fowler Road, Illawong - Time limited parking restrictions at Hobart Place
Seabrook Avenue, Grays Point
Tharawal Lane, Waterfall - Parking restrictions
Minor Signposting and Linemarking - November 2017
Moreton Road, Wilbung Road and Osprey Drive, Illawong – Proposed linemarking
treatments
Hobart Place, Illawong - Parking Restrictions North of Fowler Road
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STR035-18 FOWLER ROAD, ILLAWONG - TIME LIMITED PARKING RESTRICTIONS AT HOBART PLACE
Attachments: Plan A
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
• Concerns have been expressed with parking on Fowler Road at Hobart Place, in the vicinity of
the Illawong Before and After School Care Centre. It is proposed to reduce the time limit and
provide more short duration parking outside the centre.
REPORT RECOMMENDATION
THAT:
1. A 24 metre long "1/4P 7am - 9.30am, 3pm - 6.30pm Monday to Friday" restriction be provided
on the southern side of Fowler Road near Hobart Place, in accordance with Plan 'A' attached
to the report.
2. The Authorised Officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.
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LOCATION
Fowler Road, Illawong, at Hobart Place. Illawong Before & After School Care Centre.
REFERRAL TO COMMITTEE
Member of public (CR16-125491).
ISSUES
- Limited availability of short duration parking spaces.
- Drop-off / Pick-up of school children.
PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
On 02 August 2013 (STR019-14) the Traffic committee approved the installation of an 18 metre long
time limited parking zone with a 30 minute time limit.
COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER
Council has received concerns amongst others with parking in the vicinity of the Illawong Before and
After School Care centre in Fowler Road, Illawong, at Hobart Place.
Investigations showed that the existing 30 minute time limit on the southern side of Fowler Road was
used by people with business at the nearby Illawong shopping centre. In August 2013 the Traffic
Committee approved these restrictions in order to create a dedicated drop-off and pick-up area for
parents/carers of young children attending the Illawong Before and After School Care Centre.
Consultation with the management of the centre showed that a reduced time limit would suit drop-off
and pick-up activity at the centre while making these parking spaces less attractive for business uses.
It is therefore proposed to reduce the time limit to 15 minutes and at the same time extend the zone to
a total length of 24 metres, providing an additional short duration parking space.
FINANCIAL / RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS
Fully funded in current budget.
LIST OF APPENDICES Plan A.
File Number: 2017/263071
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Time limits on signs: 7am - 9.30am, 3pm – 6.30pm Monday - Friday
Modification of existing time limited parking signs, as shown.
Existing stem
Move existing stem
Move one existing stem and install new “1/4P 7am - 9.30am, 3pm – 6.30pm Mon – Fri” signs.
Extend existing yellow line
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STR036-18 SEABROOK AVENUE, GRAYS POINT
Attachments: Plan A
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
• To improve traffic conditions and road safety for drivers and pedestrians, yellow 'no stopping'
edge lines be marked at the vehicle turning head at the southern end of Seabrook Avenue,
Grays Point.
REPORT RECOMMENDATION
THAT:
1. Yellow 'no stopping' edge lines be approved at the right angled turning head at the southern
end of Seabrook Avenue, Grays Point, in accordance with Plan 'A' attached to the report.
2. The Authorised Regulation officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.
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LOCATION
Seabrook Avenue, off Greenhaven Rd, Grays Point.
REFERRAL TO COMMITTEE
Council's Waste Services Operational Controller CR17-212000.
ISSUES
Waste vehicles reversing over 280 metres due to a parked vehicle in the vehicle turning head.
PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
No.
COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER A review of the layout of this relatively narrow turning head at the southern end of Seabrook Avenue
has confirmed that drivers of large service vehicles and waste collection trucks would be unable to
turn around whenever there is a parked vehicle in the turning areas outside Nos. 51, 53 and 50.
As the provision of parking control signs on posts is considered unsightly and the subject reversing
distance of over 280 metres is totally unacceptable, it is recommended that yellow edge lines denoting
'No Stopping' restrictions be marked around this right angled turning head to clearly indicate to drivers
that parking during the day and overnight is prohibited at this particular location.
A consultation information letter has been delivered to the three residents directly adjacent to the
turning head seeking their comments on the proposal. Any comments will be tabled at the meeting.
FINANCIAL / RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS
Fully funded in current budget.
LIST OF APPENDICES
Plan A.
File Number: 2017-263071
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Seabrook Ave, off Greenhaven Rd, Grays Point.
Yellow ‘no stopping” edge lines.
PLAN A
Please mark yellow edge lines as shown.
80mm clear of lip line.
6.5m
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STR037-18 THARAWAL LANE, WATERFALL - PARKING RESTRICTIONS
Attachments: Plan A
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
• Council has received concerns with staggered parking on both sides of Tharawal Lane in
Waterfall, which obstructs other vehicles, particularly waste collection vehicles. It is proposed to
prohibit parking on the eastern side of the entire lane, as well as in some selected location on
the western side.
REPORT RECOMMENDATION
THAT:
1. 'No Parking' signs be approved at Tharawal Lane, Waterfall, in accordance with Plan 'A'
attached to the report.
2. The Authorised Officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.
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LOCATION
Tharawal Lane, Waterfall.
REFERRAL TO COMMITTEE
Councillor (CR17-186540).
ISSUES
- Staggered parking
- Obstruction of traffic.
PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
No.
COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER
Council has received concerns with obstruction of vehicles travelling through Tharawal Lane when
vehicles are parked on both sides of the lane in a staggered fashion.
Investigations found that Tharawal Lane is a very narrow (5.0m wide) service lane. The lane provides
driveway access to properties backing onto the Princes Highway as well as those fronting Warabin
Street. Although a driver is permitted to travel in both directions along the lane, a "one-way" restriction
in the carpark next to the Waterfall tennis courts results in the only legal exit from Tharawal Lane to be
in a northbound direction onto Yanagang Street.
Due to the lane being two way it is an offence in terms of the Road Rules to park on the righthand
(eastern) side of the lane. Although most vehicles were found to park on the lefthand (western) side,
photographic evidence confirmed that vehicles often park on the opposite side. It is clear that,
although vehicles may be leaving 3 metres for other vehicles to pass, when parked vehicles are
staggered that it is often impossible to pass through the lane.
A proposal to prohibit parking on the eastern side of the lane was circulated to the affected residents.
Two responses were received, both in support, but requesting minor modifications. It was possible to
accommodate the request to improve delivery vehicle access to 1921 Princes Highway (local
business) by prohibiting parking for a short length on the western side of the lane opposite the
particular driveway. It was also possible to move a 'No Parking' sign to the boundary between 1933
Princes Highway and 5 Kooraban Street.
It is therefore proposed to prohibit parking along the eastern side of Tharawal Lane, as well as in
some selected locations on the western side of the lane as detailed in the attached Plan 'A'.
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FINANCIAL / RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS
Fully funded in current budget.
LIST OF APPENDICES
Plan A.
File Number: 2017/263071
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THARAWAL LANE, WATERFALL PROPOSED ‘NO PARKING’ SIGNS ALONG EASTERN SIDE
No vehicular access to Kooraban Street
PLAN A
Install sign next to Telstra exchange fence
Paint yellow ‘No Stopping’ lines at intersection, 6m from driveways and 10m into lane.
Install sign next to white picket fence
One-Way
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STR038-18 MINOR SIGNPOSTING AND LINEMARKING - NOVEMBER 2017
Attachments: Plans E1 – E3, C1 – C7 and W1
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
• Proposed minor signposting and linemarking treatments.
REPORT RECOMMENDATION
THAT:
1. The recommendations listed in the Minor Signage Items table, be approved in accordance with
the attached Plans.
2. The Authorised Officers be advised of these decisions for enforcement purposes.
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CRMS No. Location Issue Request Recommendation Plan
CR17-214828 RDA17/1422
No.4 Uralba Ave, Caringbah
South
Application for
18m long 'Works
Zone' for 6
months.
Install 18 metre long
'Works Zone'.
E1
CR17-215382 Intersection of Balboa St &
Torres St, Kurnell
Restricted sight in
bend of roads
Install BB barrier lines &
raised pavement markers
at the bend of these two
streets
E2
CR-17-177037 Hume Rd & Elouera Rd, Cronulla
Illegal parking within 10m
Linemark yellow no stopping lines at this roundabout
E3
CR17-210051 Clio Street, Sutherland Parking across
layback
Reposition 2P sign & post
to the western side of
driveway entrance to
reserve.
C1
CR17-207698 Glencoe Street, Sutherland Illegal parking Mark yellow lines to
existing No Stopping signs.
C2
CR17-217865 No.446 The Boulevarde, Kirrawee
Cars parking directly adjacent to a Transdev 'Hail & Ride' Bus Stop sign
Install 'Bus Zone' signs outside No.446.
C3
CR17-216589 Crystal St at Sylvania Rd, Sylvania.
Potential vehicle conflicts at the entrance to Crystal Street.
Mark a 18m long double centreline adjacent to kerb extension.
C4
CR17-204658 Manchester Rd at View St and Houston St, Gymea.
Illegal parking within 10m of intersections.
Mark yellow lines at the
road junctions at View St
and Houston St.
C5
CR17-216283 Marina Cres, Gymea Bay. Narrow road. Mark 30m long double centreline at sharp curve.
C6
CR17-214840 Urunga Parade at Miranda Rd, Miranda
Illegal parking at corner restricting truck movements.
Installation of 'No Stopping' restrictions at corner.
C7
CR17-211859 Sutherland Road, Jannali, at
Jannali Oval carpark exit
Sight lines, high
traffic generator,
ineffective
treatment.
Remove yellow
linemarking and replace
with 'No Parking' signs
W1
File Number: 2017/263071
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URALBA AVE, CARINGBAH SOUTH WORK ZONE FOR No.4 Uralba Ave
PLAN E1
NEW SIGN ON NEW STEM
NEW SIGN ON EXISTING POWER POLE
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BALBOA STREET and TORRES STREET, KURNELL PROPOSED ‘BB BARRIER LINES”
PLAN E2
Centrally linemark BB barrier lines with raised pavement markers between southern end driveway #28 and 10m east from boundary line #30
10m
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HUME ROAD and ELOUERA ROAD, CRONULLA PROPOSED ‘YELLOW LINES”
PLAN E3
Linemark yellow No Stopping lines along south eastern kerb at corner of Hume Rd & Elouera Rd as shown
Existing No Stopping signs
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CLIO STREET, SUTHERLAND
Relocation of 2P sign & post.
PLAN C1
Reposition 2P(R) sign to the western side of driveway entrance to playground area.
ISSUES:
Parking across gateway to playground area within park. High parking demand by railway commuters and employees.
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Glencoe Street, North of The Grand Parade, Sutherland
Yellow Line markings.
ISSUE:
Cars illegally parking in existing ‘No Stopping” zone
CR17‐181372
PLAN C2
Please mark 15m yellow edge lines on western and eastern sides of
road from existing NS signs towards the concrete pavement
as shown.
80mm clear of lip line
The Grand Parade
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The Boulevarde, west of Bath Road, Kirrawee.
Provision of Bus Zone signs at existing Bus Stop.
ISSUES:
High on-street parking demand in Industrial area. Bus drivers currently stopping on road adjacent to parked cars.
Please install “Bus Zone (L)” sign on new post 2m east
of driveway.
Please install new BZ(R) sign & post
2m east of driveway.
Plan C3
Existing Yellow on Blue Hail & Ride Bus Stop sign on
power pole.
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Crystal Street at Sylvania Rd, Sylvania.
Proposed Double Centreline.
ISSUES:
Narrow entrance to side road adjacent to kerb extension. Drivers turning left into Crystal Street tend to veer into the eastbound travel lane.
PLAN C4
Proposed 18 metre long double centreline 1.2m
west of the prolongation of kerb in Sylvania Rd.
Centre of road.
Equal
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Manchester Road at Houston St and View St, Gymea.
“Yellow Edge Line & ‘No Stopping’ sign.
Issues:
Illegal parking within 10m of Houston Rd. Limited vision to the north from Houston Rd. Illegal parking in existing ‘No Stopping' zones at View St.
PLAN C5
Please mark yellow edge lines to deter
illegal parking.
80mm clear of lip
Please install a ‘No Stopping (R)’
sign on power pole.
Truck access point to stormwater trash collection device.
16m
10m
15m
12m
10m
15m
Existing ‘No Stopping’
signs at View St.
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Marina Crescent, south of Nulgarra Ave, Gymea.
Proposed double centreline.
ISSUES:
Driver vision is restricted by the curve in the road. Report of motorists travelling on the wrong side of the road at the curve.
PLAN C6
Please mark a 30 metre long double centreline
from Nulgarra Ave.
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Urunga Parade, Miranda.
Proposed “No Stopping” zone at Miranda Rd.
Issues:
Large trucks with trailers turning left into Miranda Rd.
10m
Plan C7
Please install ‘No Stopping’
signs as shown.
11m
Signs installed mid Oct. 2017
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SUTHERLAND ROAD, JANNALI at JANNALI OVAL CARPARK PROPOSED ‘NO PARKING’ SIGNS
Issues: Yellow edge lines, 12m to the north and 6m to the south of the “Exit” driveway, approved on 05-05-2017
(STR114-17, Plan W1) While yellow lines are fairly well understood to denote ‘No Stopping’ at intersections, at driveways their use is
problematic.
Install ‘No Parking’ signs 12m to the north and 6m to the south of the “Exit” driveway, as shown. Thereafter, remove the yellow lines by grinding
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STR039-18 MORETON ROAD, WILBUNG ROAD AND OSPREY DRIVE, ILLAWONG - PROPOSED LINEMARKING TREATMENTS
Attachments: Plan A and Plan B
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
• Provide linemarking treatments at the intersection of Moreton Road and Northbrook Place, and
dividing (separation) lines in Wilbung Road and Osprey Drive.
REPORT RECOMMENDATION
THAT:
1. That the following treatments be provided:
(a) Centreline marking in Osprey Drive between Fowler Road and Wilbung Road.
(b) Centreline treatment in Wilbung Road between Osprey Drive and Moreton Road.
(c) TB Holding line and edgeline and no stopping line treatments in Moreton Road at
Northbrook Place.
(d) advanced curve warning sign on the eastbound approach to Northbrook Place in
accordance with Plan 'A' and Plan 'B' attached to the report.
2. The Authorised Officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.
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LOCATION
Moreton Road, Wilbung Road and Osprey Drive, Illawong.
REFERRAL TO COMMITTEE
Arising from previous endorsement by Consultative Traffic Committee (CTF006-18).
ISSUES
• Recent fatal motor vehicle crash.
• Speed and volume of traffic.
PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
Yes, on 06-10-2017 (CTF006-18)
COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER
On 06-10-2017 The Consultative Traffic Forum recommended treatments at the intersection of
Moreton Road and Northbrook Place, Illawong, and along Osprey Drive and Wilbung Road.
Although instructions have been issued for the implementation of the recommendations of the
COnsultative Traffic Forum, all regulatory linemarking needs to be approved by the Sutherland Traffic
and Traffic Safety Committee.
FINANCIAL / RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS
Fully funded in current budget.
LIST OF APPENDICES Plan A.
Plan B.
File Number: 2017/263071
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Paint C3 yellow linemarking for ‘No Stopping’, as shown, 10 metres, unless otherwise indicated
Paint E1 edge lines, offset 1 metre from face of kerb
Paint TB/TB1 Give Way lines, as shown
Install ‘sharp curve’ warning sign approximately 55m west of Northbrook Place, as shown.
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OSPREY DRIVE and WILBUNG ROAD, ILLAWONG PROPOSED DIVIDING SEPARATION and BARRIER LINES
Paint S1 Dividing (Separation) lines and BB Dividing (Barrier) lines as shown
PLAN B
Provide the S1 lines in the middle of road to create two equal lanes
Provide 12m lengths of BB lines at the intersection
Provide 12m lengths of BB lines at the intersection
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STR040-18 HOBART PLACE, ILLAWONG - PARKING RESTRICTIONS NORTH OF FOWLER ROAD
Attachments: Plan A
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
• Concerns have been expressed with safety exiting the driveway of an apartment building at
No.65 Hobart Place due to obstruction to sight lines caused by parked vehicles. It is proposed
to extend existing parking restrictions to prohibit parking between the driveway and Fowler
Road.
REPORT RECOMMENDATION
THAT:
1. 'No Parking' signs be approved at Hobart Place, Illawong, north of Fowler Road, in
accordance with Plan 'A' attached to the report.
2. The Authorised Officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.
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LOCATION
Hobart Place, Illawong, north of Fowler Road. Driveway of apartment building at No.65 Hobart Place.
REFERRAL TO COMMITTEE
Councillor (CR17-195027).
ISSUES
• Obstructed sight lines
• Opposing bus and heavy vehicle movements.
PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
- On 01 November 2013 (STR062-14) the Traffic Committee approved 'No Stopping' restrictions
at the intersection of Fowler Road and Hobart Place.
- On 02 September 2016 (STR028-17) the Traffic Committee approved 'No Parking' restrictions
across the driveway of No.65 Hobart Place.
COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER Concerns have been expressed with the risk of exiting the driveway of the apartment building at No.65
Hobart Place due to obstruction of sight lines caused by parked vehicles in Hobart Place, between
Fowler Road and the driveway.
Investigations found a long standing recommendation by a traffic engineer as part of the development
approval process that parking should be prohibited from the apartment building driveway to the south,
towards Fowler Road. This recommendation was not included in the conditions of consent and hence
was not implemented as part of the frontage design of the apartment building development.
On 01 November 2013, during construction of the apartment building, the Committee approved a
number of parking restrictions in the vicinity. Amongst other restrictions, 'No Stopping' restrictions were
implemented at the intersection of Fowler Road and Hobart Place. These restrictions were longer
than the standard 10 metres in Hobart Place so as to address issues with bus and heavy vehicle
manoeuvres.
On 02 September 2016 the Traffic Committee approved 'No Parking' restrictions across the driveway
in order to improve the swept path of vehicles entering the apartment building parking garage.
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It is also important to note that due to the number of apartments and on-site parking spaces, the
driveway could be considered to have a traffic volume comparable to an intersection. In addition,
Hobart Place is a bus route, where all buses travel in a clockwise direction along Hobart Place,
passing the driveway under consideration from north to south. Hobart Place also serves as the
delivery access to the Illawong neighbourhood shopping centre, passing the driveway from south to
north. It has been reported that opposing buses and heavy vehicles obstruct the flow of each other,
resulting in dangerous reversing movements.
The proposal to remove two parking spaces was originally requested by one owner and requires going
against current policy to implement. After further consideration and a site visit, it was agreed that with
a stronger mandate and consultation regarding the lost parking, action could proceed. A proposal to
prohibit the remaining parking south of the driveway towards Fowler Road was circulated to residents
of the apartment building and houses directly opposite. A petition in support signed by 38 residents of
the apartment building and three residents of houses directly opposite was received. A single
objection was received from No. 72 Hobart Place, however the safety benefits outweigh the
inconvenience expected from this change.
It is therefore proposed to extend the existing parking restrictions to prohibit parking from the driveway
of No.65 Hobart Place to the intersection of Fowler Road. This will result in the loss of two on-street
parking spaces.
FINANCIAL / RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS
Fully funded in current budget.
LIST OF APPENDICES Plan A.
File Number: 2017/263071
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HOBART PLACE, ILLAWONG NORTH of FOWLER ROAD PROPOSED ‘NO PARKING’ SIGNS
Install ‘No Parking’ signs, as shown
PLAN A
Existing ‘No Parking’ (arrow left) sign
Replace existing ‘No Parking’ (arrow right) sign with ‘No Parking’ (double arrow) sign
Install ‘No Parking’ (arrow right) sign on same stem as existing ‘No Stopping’ sign
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