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Paris, France / , / SHAPE 704/5* I / / C0PÏ HO.... ...7., AG 2O32 SEC SUBJECT: Sunnaiy Report and Hirmtcs of Hcoting of .Chiefs of Staff1 SH>,PE, and Subordinate GoiiiQaiids1 8 Noyettiaer 1951, at SHAPE, 1000 -1700 Hours. "

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I. ROSTHt

General JlIfred M. Gruenther, USA, Chief of Staff, SK.\FE Rear Admiral H. Dalr mple-Snith, OK1 Navy, Chief of Staff, Allied Forces Northern Europe Gen. De Div. M. de Lassus Saint-Genies, France, Armv, Chief of Staff,

Allied Land Forces Central Europe Gen. de C/A Pierre J. Fay1 France, AF, Chief of Staff, Allied Air Forces

Central Europe Maj. Gen. Jaiaes M. Gavin, USA1 Chief of Staff, allied Forces Southsrn

Europe

Ga.pt. ÜÜ V:iiss. Louis Sticca, France, Wavy, Acting Chief of Staff, Flag Officer Central Europe

Maj, Gen. Pierre L. Bodet, France, F, PPj1NDO DIV Lt, Gen. Marccl M. Girpontier, France, DClui

n Air Vice Marshal E. C. Hudlestori, RAF, DCPO Maj. Gen. Edmond H. Lcavey, USA, LOG DIV Maj, Gen. Cortlandt Van R. Schuyler, USA, SPJLCOFS

Colonol Henri de Chizellej France, Araiy, ODCLA Colonel Robert J. Wood, USa1 Secretary

II, AGtMDA PLAMS «MP OPERATIONS

Item11I Heed for standardization of planning Formats Item II Development of Operational Plans to Suggest Outline

Emergency Plans Item III Status of jinnexes to Emergency Plans Itemiiy - SHAPE Force Roquirements and S,0. Comments 20/37 . ,

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Item V Coordination of Plans with National authorities Item VI Subordinate Conanand Structures

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H ItfO TO Status of Boundary betonen Borth «ad Caatral Jim YIU Status of Hew Outline Defonse Plan doe 15 lMember Itan IX Kartlno Hoadqiwrten

OBGUJttZtVTIOH AHD TtyJNIIIG

Item X Calendar 1952 - Schedule of Maneuvers and Kceroises Itaa II OirecUTe to Conmando on SHAPE — 1952 Extrciaoa It« TfTT Status Baport on European Defense Force Conference

PEEBOMigL AHD ADHIKISTfoTIQH It«» HII Need for Subordinate Demands to nake bilateral

agreement on status of aimed forces.

ItMi XIV Regulations for civilian personnel

LOGISTICS) Item XV Relationship between Subordinate Co>__£Dds and National

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SIOHALS

Item XVI Designation of Cooc&nds as Agents of SUCEUR on certain Signal problems»

lté» XVII Overclassiflcation of do ciments and signals.

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III. SUMMMtY REPORT - Chiefs of Staff Subordinate Commands Conference -8 November 1951

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A. PLAMS AMD OPERATIONS (Items I - IX) 1. Standardised formats for reports on Plans have been issued to serve

as a guide for reporting, (item I) 2. SHAPE vdll issue Etoergenigr Plan by 1 Decsanber for Subordinate

Coamandar consideration. Subordinate Commands will submit their Emergency-Plan to SHAPE and to their Subordinate Headquarters by 1 January 1952, except for plans for Air defense. The Plans will be returned from Subordi-nate Headquarters by 1 February 1952. 15 February 1952 vas agreed on as the effective date for the Bnergency Plan, (items II and III)

3. Target date for finalizing the Defense Plan is to be left indefinite for the present, at least until after the Rome Meeting. SHAPE 333 is to be used as force guide together with S.G. 20/37, Standing Group's reaction to SHAPE 333. (Item VIII)

On status of budgeting 56 TAF, it was suggested that 56 TAF should not be international for budget purposes. (Item VIJ

5. It was determined that nuclei of one U.S.-French Army Group Headquarters under General Handy in Heidelberg would be established by ALFCE and that BAOR would be strengthened with Belgian and Dutch elements as an embryo Arny Group Headquarters (Morth) in Bad Qyonhausen. (Item VI)

6. As wartime Headquarters, ALFCE and AAFCE Advanco Headquarters will be located together, with rear echelons in the vicinity of Fontainebleau. (Item IX)

B. ORGANIZATION AKD TRAIHIHG (Items X - XII) 7. Tentative date for 1952 maneuvers are 22 Septoiuiber to it October.

Effort will be made to coordinate maneuvers of Southern Conmand with this schedule. (Item X)

8. European Def ens e • Force Conference has reached agreement on infantry and armored groupments and on Wing (Air). (Itep XII) C. PERSONNEL AMD APHIMISTRATION (items XIII - XIV)

9. The France-SHAPE Agreement has nearly been finalized. Subordinate Commands will receive unofficial drafts for their guidance in drawing up similar arrangements., (item XIII)

10. Rules for the employment of civilians are bedng drawn up in Council Deputies. Drafts will be distributed to Subordinate Commands. (Item XIV)

D* LOGISTICS (Item XV) 111 HaUonal „ajitJ&P tties.-hase been.raque tsd,- iT-SHAPE Jojagree, to

'-Iifti1Sbirarrsingeiaents with Subordinate Commands. Rwplies âre*éxpettt'ëfr*-by-21 Hovember 1951. (item XV)

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E. SIGMALS (Item" XVI) 12." In the matter of "single service" Signals problems, SHAPE intends

to ask Subordinate Conraands to coordinate various aspects such as training • standards, navigational aids, etc. (ItemXVl)

F, A. Q. (Item XVII) 13» SHAPE requested care in assigning reasonable and proper classifi-

cation to documents and messages in order to avoid unnecessary delays due to oveirclaseification:. (item XVII)

G. REPORTS BTiM-S. OSSBtVERS 14. Recent Las Vegas tests of atomic weapons in support of ground

forces ahow A-bomb not disastrous if warning is observed» (Report by Lt. Col. CharleB C. Noble, USAj PPANDO DIV)

15. U.S. development in ammunition, mainly for 90 ram and 105 Mn weapons was reported as very favorable. A recoilleas 105'mm rifle on a jeep, 300 lbs. and with high mobility- is considered an excellent anti-tank weapon. (Report by Col. Nm. E. House, USA, IOG DIV)

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• I C O S M IC T O P ^ C R E T IV . hIMUTES - Chiefs of Staff Subordinate Coimiands Conference - 6 Hoveoiber 1951

A, INTRODUCTION, 1. General Gruenther described the activities of the TCC (Temporary '

Council Committee) and the SCS (Screening and Costing Staff) who are considering military, economic, and financial arrangements of HATO. "e then said that the/e.are now 26S officers in SHAPE, "somewhat of an overload." He pointed out that overwork sometimes results in papers not of the best, Mid he urged SHAPE and the Subordinate Cramnands to have confidence m eacn other and not to be sensitive to what might seem «witness m papers pro-duced hastily.

2. General Schuyler, who ia working on MDAP problems, was introduced ^ and said that MDAP seems to be a bottleneck and may be worse m 1952. Efforts are being made by the JCS (Joint CIAefs of Staff, US) to remedy the situation in regard to SHAPE. General Schuyler's discussion brought up the problem of having a subordinate command (Southern) deal with MAaO (Italy), since the Subordinate Commands have no directive to authorize such dealing. General Gruenther suggested informal handling of the problem, since SHAPE cannot give directives to the MAAGs. Through JAMAG relations with SHAPE, the Subordinate Commands can be informed of contemplated MAnG action if there is time. . ,

3. The difficulty for Subordinate Commands in carrying out their duty of giving General Eisenhower the status of readiness of forces was discussed, particularly with reference to knowledge of air supporting units. Even greater difficulty is found in getting information from nations where there are many unallocated land units. . ,

B, AGENDA A. Item I. The use of standardized format for reports on plans which

eventually go to the Standing Group was suggested. The forms would not be Considered as absolute models but would serve as guides.

5. Items I & II. Emergency Plan SHAPE is now finalizing emergency plans submitted by Subordinate Commands

so that the subordinate headquarters of Subordinate Commands can replace Western Union and Regional Planning Group Plans still in existence, SHAPE will issue this Energency Plan by 1 Decentoer 1951. Subordinate Commands will then prepare their plans and send them to SHhPE and to the Subordinate Commands' £ subordinate headquarters. The Chiefs of Staff of the Subordinate Commands *c felt that they could prepare their Emergency Plans quickly except for the Air ; Defense problem, The date of 1 January 1952 was agreed on for the submitting of Plans to SHAPE and to subordinate headquarters. The Plans are to be returned from subordinate headquarters on 1 February 1952. 15 February was agreed on .: as the effective date for the Emergency Plan, - ; 1

6. Item IV. Defense Plan _ \ The Chiefs of Staff of Subordinate Commands said that they needed until

after the Rome NATO Meeting to complete their Defense Plans, even though it might be impossible to get final answers on such items as force requirements, logistics plans, and the German contribution at that time. General Gruenther | suggested leaving the target date for finalizing the Defense Plan indefinite, i „aad.advised-using-SHflM 333'as a -fOr'de" guide together-with S.&.wgp/3,7j.. ShJrir . i

• """standing Group reaction to SHAPE 333. î

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7* Itemt V. General Bodot reported that coordination with national authorities shquld not delay the submission of plans.

8, Item TI. General Gavin" reported on the status of jiLFSE 'headquarters " * at Verona which is developing well and now has 35 officers. It has just submitted its budget. AAFSE headquarters at Florence is growing slowly with 36 officers on duty in an interim location.

9. In a discussion of a 56 TAF from a budgetary point of view, it was suggested that 56 TAF should not be international for budget purposes.

10. In his remarks on tho Northern Command, Admiral Dalrymple-Smith said that because of the situation of having two Allied Land Force Commanders, the Northern Command has the effect of being 20international and SCtf national.

11. General Fay indicated that their budgetary problems had been solved for the moment, but that there will be an official report soon.

12. General de Iiassus reported that General Juin had seen Generals Handy and Hardy on organisational matters, and that a letter on organisation was signed today. (The lettor is C712/ALFCE/B.3 TS, 10 Nov 1951.) He reviewed the contents of the letter briefly,

13. At this point General Gruenther introduced Lt1 Colonel Noble (Lt Col Charles C., USA, PPÄNDO DIV), observer at the Las Vegas tests. Colonel Noble reported on the tests subject to U.S. legal restrictions,'which General Eisenhower is trying to have amended for SHAPE. Colonel Noblo stated that the Las Vegas tests grow out of the U.S. Army's requirement on the Atomic Energy Commission for weapons to use in support of ground forces and was a beginning effort to keep strategy and tactics up to date, i.fter a description of the tests, Colonel Noble said that surprise is the important factor in the tactical use of the A-bomb, If sufficient warning is observed the effects are not disastrous, but without warning they are very severe.

14. Item XIII. Status Report on the European Defense Force Conference General Gruenther reviewed briefly the European Defense Force concept

and introduced-General Michaelis (Brig. GMI. J.H., USA, OAHDT DIV), who said that, after a considerable period of discussion up to late July, an agreement had been reached on infantry and armored groupments for Land forces and on Wing for /dr. The European Defense Force Conference has given its report to the TCC, and the German contribution is now set at eight infantry and four armored divisions. On aircraft there was a split position, — the France-SHftPE figure - 1100 plus, and the German - 1700. On naval contributions, Germany wanted more than SHAPE proposed. Remaining problems are the status of the integration of the European Defense Community, political union, and coalition. General Michaelis foresaw a period of interim inefficiency in the assimilation of the Germans into a European Army.

15. Mediterranean - Middle East Command General Gruenther summarized the situation of the Mediterranean - Miudle

East Command and said that General Eisenhower did j»t want Turkey under SHtiPE bu.t„wouli accept it if it were necessary to secure agreement. The Italians want Greek forces under ftalian command, but the possibility Is not a strong one. There is some agreement, although not yet published, on Admiral Carney's Naval command, which will include the French Fleet in tho Wi-st, the Italian Fleet in the East, and the U.S. 6tb Fleet, In the jvulantic Ocean Area, •Admiral Fechteler thinks that SitCLANT should be constituted. But the British went this held up until the Middle East conmand situation is solved. General Eicenhower1 s present thought is a fourth command undJr him in the Middle East if he has to take it on*

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t [ C O S M I C T O P g y C R E T 16. Item HC« Gotieral Fay reported that a letter on the location of

Z1RCE headquarters was sent to SfL1J5E yesterday. The Aray feels it must get out of Fontainebleau and perhaps will go near Helun. The Air Force will stay in its new building in the Forest. Goacrsl de Lassus pointed out that, by leaving Fontainebleau» the Array cannot stay with the Air, but the Advance Headquarters of Air and Land will be together.

1?. Itens X & XL* General Posting announced that a general lay-out for the 1952 maneuvers had been drawn up and had gone out to the Subordinate Cottmands yesterday. The maneuvers, directed by SACBJR and his Deputies, will hayc the object of providing training for maximum forces and will last eight days, not counting assembly and dispersal. The tentative dates are 22 September to It October 1952, avoiding earlier dates which run into the harvest and are too costly. Following a discussion by General Festing on some details of the paper, Genera]. Carpentier indicated that gasoline would be a national charge. Gçncral Gavin suggested that maneuvers of the CinC South should be coordinated with the 1952 maneuvers. Goncral Fosting agreed and General Gavin said that he would send a training man to discuss with OANDT,

IB. Item XIII. Admiral Ca;,poni said that the French - SHZ1PE Agreement had nearly been finalized, and that unofficial copies would be sent to the CUafs of Staff of the Subordinate Ccuaands to guide them in drawing up similar agreements.

19. Item XIV. Civilians are to be employed only when military personnel are not available and must be paid by the government concerned. Security clearance is also to bc administered by the government. Rules of employment are being drawn up in the Conncil Deputies, and Admiral Cr.oponi is distributing drafts of these to the Subordinate Coraaands.

20, Item XVI. General Lanahan, in discussing the delegation of responsibilities from SHAPE to subordinate headquarters, said that he would run into the "single Service" problem. As a result, SHAPE will ask one of the headquarters to do the coordinating in such problems as use of AA radar, mortar radar, jamming of sets, training standards, navigational aids, recognition and identification, Sonar, marine naval aids. He suggested having experts from the three headquarters get together even though it would cut across command channels. On 20 Hovrawber the Electronics and Comramications Committee will meet.

21. Item XV. General Bodet said that the national authorities have been requested by SHAPE to agree to liaison arrangements with the Subordinate Commands and replies aro expected by 21 November. Air Vice Marshal Hudleston requested that Subordinate Commands keep him informed of any discussion or agreements with national authorities.

22. Item XVIII. Air Vice Marshal Hudleston asked for a sharp watch on reasonable classification of documents and messages in order to avoid-unnecessary delay due to overclassification.

23. QTHPt ITEMS. Admiral Dn Irymplo S-dth brought up the problems of (a) delay in mail deliveries; (b) tho alert of Norwegian and Danish troops in cass of attack; (c) information on guided missiles. Air Vice Marshal Hudleston said that a paper on guided missiles is still being worked on. Colonel Hood stated that mail doliveries wero under study and a memorandum would be issued.

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COSMIC TOP/SECRET^ 24. Raport of Colonel House, Colonel House (Wa.' E., USA, LOG DIV) ! J

reported on U.S. developments in ammunition. He said be was favorably impressed with the 90 mi and the 105 nm ammunition which can be ftped in any. • weapon of that calibre, and will penetrate 12 to 14 inches of armor. Shaped S charges for 90 mm are now in production and will be in production for the 105 mm by sunsier, The 105 mm rcaoilless rifle has a shaped charge with very small probable error, A new ammunition is tho plastic high explosive which is used in low velocity cannon and can blow the back off armor plate.

The 105 neu recoilless rifle mounted on a jeep and Weighing 300 lbs. has high mobility and is an excellent anti-tank weapon. A light tank is in pro-duction and will reach peak production in January 1952, The ?6 Era gun will be replaced by a 90 mm gun on this tank.

The M47 is in production although service tests are not completed. There are seme bugs to be removed. The M48, an elliptical hull tank, is under develop-ment, A 90mm AA gun, very light, is being developed for airborne troops.

The Meeting was closed at 1700 hours.

FOR THE CHIEF OF STAFF!

WOOD U.S. Army

Secretary DISTRIBUTION:

Gen, Army Dwight D, Eisenhower FM The Viscount Montgomery AOf Sir Hugh Saunders Gen. Alfred M. Gruenther Lt. Gen, Marcel M. Garpentier Vice Adm, Andre Georges Lemonnier Maj, Gen, Francis W. Fosting- fo-/GJJ«. — % Kaj. Gen. Francis Lanahan ^ Maj. Gen. Sir Terence S, Airey » Maj. Gen. Edmond H. Leavey AVM E. C, Hudleston Haj. Gen. Pierre Louis Bodet Maj. Gen. Courtlandt Van R. Schuyler Rear Adm Ferrante Capponi Brig. Gen. C. T. Lanham Brig. Gen. Anthony J. D, Biddle, Jr. Coraapt FC Guillaume le Bigot ~ri_. Gun., hitisb&rfc M. Jones Rear Ada. H. Dalrymple-Smith Lt. Gen. Fié'rre J. Fay Sear Adm,'Peter J. D, Cazalet Maj. Gen. James M, Gavin Maj, Gen. M. J. de Lassus

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C O SPiEiARY OF MSDfIHG EST.VBSK SEftPE AHD PRINCIPAL STAFF OfrFICERS'W RSGÏO^AÏ, PIAgSIFG PROIiPS, g APhIL ~ï'§ 51

X, Air Vica Herahal HUDLHSTOH, after welcoming the P.3.0•a and Secrdtariss of the Rational Planning Groups, outlined SHaPS1-iS "broad viewa on tha hand-ovep of responsibilities from R»P.G's to SHAPE. Hs stated that SHAPE plans envisagedj

a. Sarly completion of pr&i>onfc tasks am transfer of fun-ctions from W.S.K.PkG. to SHAPE or ihs Standing Group; b. Uae of H.^.P.h.G. as a nucleus staff of Northern Command, together with early transfer of certain other functions to SSoPE or Standing Group}

e. Use of E.M.K.C.R.P.ri. sa a nucleus staff for a rather longer planning period pending determination of a South-ern command structure. He forecast possible immediate transfer of Bomo functions to SHAi1S, and L^pod for some lia n do vor of work in about ton days, with othep more complex problems talcing somewhat longar for transfer. He 8U£'Qsted that the best approach to this transfer would be co hav<j SHf1PE stöff officers wopk out détails with ropras-nsafcivus of fu* .-"i.'a.

2. Ganeral CE-VILLO';; afraid in corral v.itli A?3 thinking, but pointod out that fctu, fields of logistics end communicoùKns held certain ypablema on which thu Standing Group's position was not yot known. Ho mentioned that S.G. 103/2 had not iasuod in final form, ülr vict> Uarshal HtiMLBSIOM replied Itat he oxpectad no basic changes in S.G. 103/2. On tha lciaticol problem, G^n^rol Lsavey f3lt that delays would bo inovitiblo in wslfcln; for Standinf Group to deflno its position; ho augfootod that ShviPC stall' officers and

rdppu&^ntativua sieot togethor und work out chtiir own agree-ments as to disposition of tbeao functions. Aip Vica Marshal HUDI S'îQî! thought tho same approach would work on Signals problems.

3. After some discussion It was JgrtfiJd that l'irat contacts would be at the Inter-servica lovol. Purthep datslls v; re apraod as follows: SUl JECT

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4, Air Vice Marah .1 HUHLEF o^enod tho noxt agenda Itam; Problaras which can be Iimaediate,Iy takon OV-E by SinE1E. After dis-cussion It was sgpood to have tnm orlcin parties uake appropriate recommendations, using S.G. 103/S as a Easia. It was further agreed that the specific problems of harmofliastion and standardization of doctrines and procedure should b3 talwn up In the Training tclka.

It waa asre^d with llfctla aiacuaj.ion tfcet the third agenda item, problems to ba retained in R.i-.-.'s, could heat he covered in later staff discussions.

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5. With respect to the fourth agenda item, problems of aap- . - -J'' committees from national service staffs. Air Vice Marshal HIIXS • pointed out that there lg a body of problems which ere not really - : SHAîS subjects; he mentioned ocean shipping and harmonization of mobilization procedures as example3. Ganersl agreement waa expressed in subsequent discussion that AD HOC committee s would probably have to continue to deal-with subjects of this general character, al-thtfuph as many such sub-Jo eta, on the military aide, should pass on to 'the Standing Group and U.S.A.

6. Uie fifth egenda itûm, military operating requirements in SH 20241, was outlined by Colonel BOG: HT1 who clarified the informa-, tion desired, pointing out that Logistics Division wanted to Ohart1V. the entire logistical base of installations for all forces allocated or earmarked for SACSUh, whasis r bcaj1 in Jieir own country or else-where on the continent. General Ci"VI^ 1.0M iioted that what wad «ante.d WÔ3 logistic data for K.T.D.?., for which no logistical plan exists, BLscusiicn then centered around the point that neithar national build-up figures nor Sh^iS decisions on deployment are available., but Gsiasnel IÄAV3Y said he w&nt&d to detoimins what ©aca fi.^'.G. had been able to do in this field so far, in order to Imow where EilRt1S should pick up the problem.

7» General L1SiiVEy Introduced the sixth agenda item, first and second infrastrueturo slices. It was brought out In discussion that second slice infrastructure requirements wjre now before the Council of Dsputiea and that SaCTUH fait it to ba y mt.in conc-rn of his to accelsrato this proprara( General ISoVSY str»ossou the point that SHaPS1 s present interest was not to question tho requirements estab-lished by K.P.G.^s, bat ratbor to gvt on with them.

8. The agenda having boon covapod, admiral CA?a>0M1 mentioned the interest of the Personnel and Administr tion Division in certain aspeots of S.G. IDS/2* It was Qtrrood thot any necpt,aery afcôff dis-cussions on these subjects coulo, be arranged.

9. The question of ths future position of tho Regional Chiefs of Staff Committees h'<vin b&jn raised, general eg»=>effiânt wns ax-pressed with Air Vice Marshal HItXS1 view, that oncti tho ru^ional coiTidsnds h.ive been ostablishuJ, tha C.O.f. Committees would probably not wish to »ast, although tholr lagi.l right to do so might continue tç> exist.

10. l«o further q^wstions hüinp riisau , Air Vice Marshal tfUBIESTON ' adjourned the meeting at 1615 boors.

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STOftURY OF ÎSEIIHG EE-KEEH SHAgC AHD gdiMciïgAt So1Ayti' ÔWÎ&V1& of ftSGiöflÄT PLAffiBgQ SfaOUPg. 6 AgKIL 1551

1. Air Vice UaraliaI HUDLSSTOlJi after welcoming- the p.S.Q's and Sacretarias of the Bepional Planning Groups, outlined SHAFEt-S broad views on the hand-over of responsibilities from R,f .G's to SHAPE. He stated that SHAPE plans envisaged:

a. Early completion of prient totks a m transfer of fun-ctions from \T.E.h.P.G. to SHAPE or ;he Standing Group;

b. ITse of S.E.P.v.G. as a nucIaui= staff of Northern Comoand, together with early transfer of certain other functions to SHAt1E or Standing- Group;

e. Ose of JI.H.K.C.fi.Pas a nacleus staff for a rather longer planning period pending determination of a South-ern eomrceni structure. He forecast possible Immediate transfer of acmo functions to fh/k'E, and hL.pcd for some handover of work In about ton days, with other mora complex problems taking so mo what lonpur for transfer. He sugeated that the b-jst approach to this transfer would be Bo havo EHai1E st^ff officort work out datsila with reprbs^ncifcivos of K — .V.'s.

2. General CR-VILIOI1 ar re~d in f.on ral witt 8.At13 thinking, but pointed out that thj fi*jlda of logistics cnu coranuniea-i^ns held certain problems on which th Stanainp Group*t position was not yet known. Ho mentioned thao S.G. 103/2 had not iaauod in final fomu Air Vieo Uarshal HlrDL SiOil replied ti:a c he bxptcted no basic changea In S.G. 1D3/2. C n tha logistical problem, G^n^ral Laavey fjlt that delays would be inevit>iblj in wsitin for Standing Group to define its position; he oUgj-Ostud that SharE staff officers and R.P.G. retjroi>6ntativ^a aaut togother end work out their own agree-ments as to disposition of these functions. Air Vicu Marshal HöDL^S'IOS thou g.11 ïhv, a am 9 approach would work on Signals protljms.

3. After soma discussion It was jf-reod that first contacts would be at the inter-sorvic-j Ivvol. Further d^tells r re agreed aa follows: sut t:ct

Slftnal s Plans Sc Policy Logistics Intelligance Training

HErPG IteTS PIACE

VEHr G DftIS PLACE

SM O Tii1G PLACE

17-13 Apr SHJIPE 17-1S apr SHaPE 17-19 Apr SHAPE 11 Apr Iondon 11 Apr London 9 Apr Paris 11-12 Apr London 11 Apr London * - Paria 12 Apr London 12 Apr London - - - wsik of 15 Apr - - - 10 Apr

* To be arranged Hot specifically mentioned 4. Air Vice Marsto 1 HUfflL'JCiOS, o_.onud the nixG agenda ltomi

ProblerflS which can be* Ituaediattly t::'iCo;i ov„r by SinPE. After dis-cussion it was agreud to have ti:o vorhin; parti«a nako appropriate racoimaondations, using E.G. 105/2 as c LnaXa. It was further agreed that the specific problems of herraonlzsUion and standardization of doctrines and procedures should be tak-n up Xn thu Training telks.

It was agreed with Iit*„l3 aiscuotion tl.ef the third agenda item, problems to ba r-„t.jln d in K • .'s, could boat ba covered in later staff discussions.

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STOIaflY QP HS1Bf DTtS EE TJJESH SHAPE AHD PRXSCXPAL i STAPF o M ù S S S O F ftStffosnL PIAKHIH& 6BOOTB. 6" AgKIL 1951

X. Air Vice Marshal HUDL3ST0K, after welcoming the P.S.O's ' ' and Secretaries of the Hegional Planning Groupa, outlined SBAPErS broad views on the hand-over of wisppnsiblllties from R.P.G's to SEtAPE. He atated that SHaPE plans an vi saged:

a. Early completion of present tasks em transfer of fun-ctions from "tf.S.K.p.G. to SHAPE or ;he Standing Group;

b* U3e of .G. aa a nucleus staff of Northern Command, together with early transfer of cart&ln other functions to SSi)PS or Standing Group;

c, Use of E.M.K.O.R.P.:;. as a naclous staff for a rather longor planning period pending determination of a South-ern command structure, He forecast possible immediate transfer of soma functions to SEAiE, and Iwped for aorae handover of work in about ton days, with other more complex problems caking somewhat longer for transfer. He sug-eatad that the bust approach to this transfer would bs to havo staff officors work out details with repras^nû3tivos of R. .-i.'a.

2, General CRCVILIOii O I N J d in gon-iral with SuAPil thinking, but pointed out that thu fiolds of logistics ena communiesJi^ns bald certs In problems on which the Stanaing Group's position was not yot known. Ho mentioned that S.G. 105/2 had not issued in final form, /sir Vice Marshal HB DIE SIDN replied that he expected no basic changes in S.G« IDS/2» On th-i lo?iatlcal problem, General Leavey fjlt that delays would be inovitublo in wsitin; for Stsndlnf Group to define its position; ho aug^ostud that ShilP-C staff officors and R.P.G. representatives Mac togother «nd wrk out thair own agree-ments as to disposition of these factions. Air Vice Marshal HUDICSTOH thought tho same approach would work on Signals problems,

3. After some discussion it was -igre d that first contacts would he at the inter-s&rvic-j l'-vol. Purthor d^tfils w .re agrsod as followsi SUlJHCT

Signals Plans & Policy Logistics Intelligance Training * •JH*

EEKPG DftTS PLACE 17-19 Apr SHhPE 11 Apr Iondon 11-12 Apr London IS Apr London - - - weak of 15

VEKf G DAIB PLACS 17-18 apr SHHPE 11 Apr London 11 Apr London 12 Apr London Apr - - - 10 Apr

2M'0 KPG DftTE PLACE 17-18 Apr SHAPE 9 Apr Parla » ' Paris

To be arrangea Hot specificelly mentioned 4. Air Vice Marah .1 HGKL-?I1OS, o.-onod the noxt agenda itom:

Problems which can be-Intnediately taken ov-r by SlaPE, Aftor dis-cussion It was agroùd to have ti:o working Jpartiaa pake appropriate recommendations, using S.G. 105/2 as c tasia. It'was further agreed that the specific problems of harmonization and standardization of doctrines and procedures should ba tak-in up in tho Training telks.

It was agreed with litslo discussion thet"tha third apanda item, problems to ba retained in R.^.-.'s, could best ha covered in later staff discussions.

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'5. With rgapect to thï fourth agendo item, problems of sub-" coitEaittèaa from national-sei-viee staffs. Air Vica Marshal WILIS ' , pointed out that there Is a body of problems which ere not really SHAPE subjects! he mentioned ocean shipping end harmonization of mobilization procedures as examples. Gftneral agreement was expressed in subsequent discussion that AD HOC committees rould probably have to continue to deal with subjects of this general -charactor, al-though as many such subjects, on the military side, should pass'on to the Standing Group and M.S.A.

6. Bia fifth agenda item, military oparstinp requirement^ in SH 20241, was outlined by Colonel BO& RT, who clarified tee informa-tion desired, pointing out that Logistics Division wanted bo chart the entire logistical base of installations for all forces allocated or earmarked for SACBUh, whecn r bcsa.i in -hoir own councry or else-where on the continent. General CI .EVI;tOfl noted that what was «anted was logistic dato for &.T.D.?., for which no logistical plan exists. Discussion then centered around the point that neither national build up figures nor Euii1E decisions on deployment are available, but General IjSAVSY said he winted to détermine what eacn H.^.G. had been able to do in this field so far, in order to know where Efiai3X; should pick up the problem.

7. General LEaVEX introduced the sixth agenda itoin, first 'and second infrastructure slices. It was brought out in discussion that second slice Infrastructure requirements tv-jre now before the Council of Daputiec and that SaC^SU felt it to bt> a ranin concern of his to accelerate this prorroa, General LS.-.VEY stressou tho joint that SHaPE's present interest was not to question tho requirements estab-lished by H.P.G.'s, bat rather to g-„t on with then.

8. The afonda h-voif; be^n covered, ddmiral CAiVOiII mentioned the Interest of the t'ert.onnal and Administr- bion Division in certain aspects of S.G. 105/2. It was agreed thfit any nece&ssry staff dis-cussions on these subjects coulc* be arranged.

9. The ctuostton of bb future position of tbs Regional Chiefs of Staff Committees h^vin? "boon rtisod, general r.graement wr.3 ex-pressed with air Vice Karshal MILLS' view, that oncu tho r^rional coirmands hr.ve been established, tl a 0.0.Committees would probably not wish to meet, although their lagt.1 right to do so might continua to exist.

10. Iio further questions belnf nisei, Air Vico Marshal HUDIESTOH adjourned th& meeting at 1615 ho^rs.

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