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. - 1. Speaker Redmond: HHouse will come to order . Members please be in their seats. Prayer by Jack o'Brien , the Clerk.'' Clerk 0îB*ien: HLet us pray; Lord , bless this House and a11 those who serve and work here . Amen.'' Speaker Redmond: HPledge of allegiance , Representative Bluthardt.'' Bluthardt: 'Q pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it ' stands, one nation; under God: indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. '1 Speaker Redmond: ''Wetre honored with the presence of a former House Member, the father of daylight savings time; former Representétive Pete Miller. Think I'd forgotten that didn't you? Right down in this froat seat . ' Roll Call for attendance. Reading of the Journal . '' Clerk O'Brien: ''Journal for the 105th Legislative Day , Monday, March 24th...M ' ' Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Madigan.'' Madigan: MMr. Speaker, I move that we dispense with the reading of the Journal and that Journal //105 of Marcb 2%th, lQ6 of March 26th> l07 of March 27th, i08 of March 28th, be approved as read.'l Speaker Redmond: ''You heaed the Gentleman's motfon. Is there any discussion? Tbe questionls on the motion. Those in favor say 'aye' faye'.' opposed 'no'. The îayels have ft. The motion carries. And the Journal is approved as tf haviag been read. Representative Madigan, do you want to introduce the new Member? No, okay. Representative Stuffle.'î Stuffle: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to table House Bill 3161. Itîs a duplicate of anotber Bill that was subsequently introduced.'' Speaker Redmond: ''Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objection, leafe is granted. 31.. 21,was it? 3161 is tabled. Any absences that should be excused? Repre- . ky o E x E R A j . A ssEM B j-v ' q & C : w ., t, 4 - 8 - 8 () i - . / .% ( p z ) s 'rA 'r E: o F ' uu 1 N o l s . T If=' e' Hotzse oe ReTpRfsEiNTA.Tlves . .. . o ' % . %%* . ' ''. **1#

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Speaker Redmond: HHouse will come to order. Members please

be in their seats. Prayer by Jack o'Brien, the Clerk.''

Clerk 0îB*ien: HLet us pray; Lord, bless this House and a11

those who serve and work here. Amen.''

Speaker Redmond: HPledge of allegiance, Representative

Bluthardt.''

Bluthardt: 'Q pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

States of America and to the Republic for which it'

stands, one nation; under God: indivisible, with liberty

and justice for all. '1

Speaker Redmond: ''Wetre honored with the presence of a former

House Member, the father of daylight savings time;

former Representétive Pete Miller. Think I'd forgotten

that didn't you? Right down in this froat seat.' Roll

Call for attendance. Reading of the Journal.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Journal for the 105th Legislative Day, Monday,

March 24th...M ' '

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Madigan.''

Madigan: MMr. Speaker, I move that we dispense with the

reading of the Journal and that Journal //105 of Marcb

2%th, lQ6 of March 26th> l07 of March 27th, i08

of March 28th, be approved as read.'l

Speaker Redmond: ''You heaed the Gentleman's motfon. Is

there any discussion? Tbe questionls on the motion.

Those in favor say 'aye' faye'.' opposed 'no'. The

îayels have ft. The motion carries. And the Journal

is approved as tf haviag been read. Representative

Madigan, do you want to introduce the new Member? No,

okay. Representative Stuffle.'î

Stuffle: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to table

House Bill 3161. Itîs a duplicate of anotber Bill

that was subsequently introduced.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing

no objection, leafe is granted. 31.. 21, was it? 3161

is tabled. Any absences that should be excused? Repre-

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sentative J.J. Wolf.'';

Wolf: HMr. Speakerh would the record show that Representative

Schlickman is absent because of illness?'f

Speaker Redmond: uAny oblection? Hearing none; the record will

so show. House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calend r.

0n page two, 1801, Representative Skinner. We missed

you last week when we went througb a 1ot of things

that you.. you were the Sponsor of. Repres'entative

Friedrich?u

Friedrich: HMr. Speaker, Eouse Bill 2848 appropriated money

for the Auditor General for the RTA and CTA audits, but

wevwere able to get that money through amending:

Senaee Bill 769. In fact, they already had the money

so I move that House Bill 2848 be tabled.''

Speaker Redmond: HDoes the Gentleman have leave? Hearing

no oblection: leave is granted. The Bill is tabled.

Representative... Somebâdy else was aaking. Was it

Reflly? Representative Ryan', are there any Republicans

Vhose absence should be excused? Schlickman. We've

. already had Schlickman. Will the record show that

n liRepresentative Si=as ts now in the chamber? Introduction

Fkiedrich: ''Mr. Speaker, I wonder if I could be recognized

for Just a couple of motions? I think they'/e important.

The Rules committee by ..... in violation of the rules po ted

more than fifty Bills for today's hearing, but becauee of the

nuaber of Bills that have been introduced, I think

tt's tmportant that the Rules Comlittee move ahead

so therefore... And this motion bas been approved by

Representative Madigan and Representative Ryan. So

1111 move to suspend Rule 18-J so that the Rules Committee

can Post more than fifty Bills for todays Rules Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: 'fAny discussion? Representatfve Madigan.

.Madijan. Representative Madigan. John. Somebody.'' '

Madigan; HMr. Speaker, I regret that I did not hear the Gentle

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man s motion. could he repeat tt please?''l

Speaker Redmond: HCould you repeat the motiony Mr. Friedrich?bl

Friedrtch: HI move that we suspend Rule 18-G which will

legalize the posting of the more than 50 Bills in

the Rules Committee .today. Representative Ryan tndicated

that'd been cleared by you.''

Madigan : 'lThank you .'l

Speaker Redmond: HThe question's on the motion . Those

in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. 107 votes.

Representative Friedrich.''

Friedrich: ''Now Mr. Speaker, I have another motion..îî

Speaker Redmond: ''Wait till I get the tally on thisy tf you

will Sir.''

Frfedrich: ''0kay.''

Speaker Redmoad: nHave a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted

vbo wish? Needs .107 votes. 1'

Friedrich: 1lI would just say agàln this is a motion to

suspend the rule. A 1ot of you people have Bills in

the Rules Committee and I'm sure you want an opportunity

. to have them heard.''

Speaker Redmond: 'îclerk will take the record. 0n this

question there's 116 'aye'... therels 116 'aye' and no

'nay' one 'nay'. Represenative Pullen, 'nay'.

And the motion carries. The rule is suspended. Represent

ative Friedrich.''

Fkiedrich: ''Mr. Speaker, I have another motion to suspend

tbe appropriate rule that Rouse Bill 3268 and 3288'

can be heard in Rules Committee today without the proper

posting notice. The Bills have very good Syonsorship.

Representatiee Ryan and Speaker Redmond. So I move

that the appropriate rule be suspeaded.'f

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Kane.'î

Kane: ''Would the Sponsor of the motion yield to a question?''

Speaker Redmond ï HHe. will.''

Kane: '% o what do these Bills do?''

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Friedrich: ''3268 eliminates the interestceiling on revolving

credit loans and installment loans made by banks,

savings and loans, credit unions and other licensed

linders' 3288 amends the Retail Installment Salesl

Act to eliminate limits on finance charges which may

be charged on retail installment sales contracts.''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Kane.'f

Kane: 'Q think that these Bills are of sufficient interest

to a 1ot of people. Will they be given a full posting

before they get to full Committee?''

Friedrich: HIf they clear the Rules Committee, they

would be given the proper notice before they were

heard in the appropriate.. I assume the Banking Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: HThe question's on the Gentlemadfs motion.

Thosë in favor vote fayeg; opposed vote 'ao'. Have a11

voted who wisb? Clerk wtll take the record 0n this

question there's 107 'aye' and one lno' And the

motion carried. And the rule is suspended. Introduction

and First Reading.''I ,, '

Clerk 0 Brien: Introduction,and First Reading; House Bi11

3332, Emil Jones, a Bil1. for an Act in relation to

the inspection of standardized tests administratedt ,

by public schools. First Readint of the Bi11.. House;

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Bill 3333, Marovitz, a Bill. for an Act to amend Sec-

tions of the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 3334, Emil Jones, a Bill for *'

an Act in relation to the openness of standardized

tests.used for attendance to,admittance' to higher

educational institutioas. Ftrst Reading of the Bi11.

House Bill 3335, Huskeyj a Bi'11 for an Act to' amend

Sections of an Act co'ncerning pvblic utilities. First

Reading'of the Bill. House Bill 3336, Taylor, a Bill

for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Highway

Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3337, Deust r,

a Bill for an Act relating to the extension of ad valore

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personal property taxes and amending certain Acts in

eonnection therewith. First Reading of the Bill.

House Bill 3338, VonBoeckmany a Bi11 for an Act to amend

Sections of an Act relating to the acquisition, possession

and transfer of fire arms and fire arms ammunition.

First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3339, VoaBoeckman,

a Bill for an Act to auend Sections of an Act relating

to the prevention of developmental disabflities. First

Reading of the Bi11. JHouse Bill 3340, Boler, a Bill for

an Act to provide for the appropriation for tie feasibili y

study for railroad crossing in the city of Effingham.

First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3341, Bower,

a Bill for an Act to provide for appropriation for

preliminary engineering of a railroad crossing in the

city of Effingham....'f

Speaker Redmond: 'fLev the record sbow that Representative

Walsh is ta the çhaober.''

Clerk O'Brien: HFirst keading of the Bi11..Xf

Speaker Redmoad: l'The former Member, former Representative

Dave Robinson is in the chamber and hefs a Congressman

fn waiting. Representatfve Madigan.''

Madigan: ''Mr. Speaker, would the record show that Representati e

Garmisa is excused because of illness?l'

Speaker Redmond: ''Any objection? Hearing none, the record

will so show. ''

Madigan: NAnd, Mr. Speaker, could we have some order?l'

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative... Representative Madigan.''

Madigan: ''Mr. Speaker. I would like to introduce a new

Member from Chièago, replacing former Representative '

Walter Kozubowski, and seated in Walter's old seat,

nev Representative Robert Krska. Bob Krska.''

Speaker Redmond: 'îWelcome aboard. Representative Krska.''

Krska: ''Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, fellow Legislative

Members, I consider this a great honor bestowed upon

me to represent the people of the city of Chicago from

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the 23rd Distriét and in no way will I embarass and

disgrace this great Body and tHe Gentlemen . Thank youv'f

Speaker Redmond: HHouse Bills, Third Reading, Sbort Debate '

Calendar. House Bill 11. Representative Daaiels.''

Daniels: 1tMr. Speaker, Ladies and Geatlemen of the House:

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House Bill 11 creates Ehe Real Property Tax Procedure

Study Cowmission. This is a Commission that would

be set-up through eight Members, four from the House

and four from the Senate. They would select a Chairman

from their Membership and they would be specifically

instructed to study a11 laws: rules and regulations

and procedures relating to real property taxation.

The basic initiative behind the Bill is due to our

current tax structure in Illiaois and the need to .

review tt and that's the purpose of the Tax Study

Commission and I would solicit your favcrable support.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question is, ..

Representative Madigan.'l

Madigan: HQuestion of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker. What is

the make-up of the Meabershfp?''

Daaiels: ''As I stated when I presented the Bills the make-

up of the Membership is four Members from the House

and four Members froa the Senate, eight Members.''

Madigan: l'Why is this Commission neededlin light of al1

ofithe other Commission and Commfttees which have

studied the real property tax?''

'Danielsl ''We11, if you know, Representayive Madigan, as we

bave looked .at the real property situation in Illinois

We found the escalating real property tax throughout

the State of Illinoiy, along with the application and

multiplier... As a matter of fact, the city of ChicagoI

in Cook County has f'aced serious problems because

of the application of the multiplier. We need to look

at the various real estate tax study procedures through-

out 'Illinois to make sure it's befng assessed fairly,

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7.fairly in Cook County, fairly in Dupage or fairly in

Sangamon County, throughout the State of Illinois.

This Commission vould be specifically instructed to

study that.lf

Madigan: f'Are you familtar with the Clark Commission of the

Seventy-Ninth General Assembly which aâso studied the

property tax?''

Daniels: ''Are you speaking about somewhere .. let's see, batk

in 19... What year?''

Madigan: HOf the Seventy-Ninth General Assemblyy Senator

Clark thereafter became a candidate for assessor of

Cook County.''

Daniels: 'Q wasn't on that Commission.- 'f

Madigan: H... Republican from suburbia? Are you familiar with

the report of that Commission?''

D i 1s: ''Your point in bringing that outiis what Sir?''an e ,

Madigan: l'Yo ask if your proposed Commission would

duplicate the work of that Commission?''

Daniels: 'Q think a 1ot has changed gince that time. Whether

or net it would duplicatey it's really not a matter .

that I think is of importance at this moment because

of the reason of the tax . real estate tax throughout

Illinois escalating throughout the whole state and

the application of the multiplier and the assessment

tevel of 33 and a percent. Now we are not charjing

this Commission with studying: for instance, the policies

of procedures of any assessor. For instance, the pur-

pose of this' Commisston is not to study the assessment

procddures of the assessor of Cook County or any other

county. But what we are asking this Commission to do

is to study a1l lavsp rules and regulations and proce-

dures relating to real property taxation. So I don't

think it's a matter of going back to tbe Seventy-Ninth

General Assembly. A 1ot has changed since then.ff

Madigan: ''Mr. Sponsory are you familiar kith the Governorês

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Task Force on taxes and spending of the Eighty-First

General Assembly?''

Daniels: l'I'm familiar with the Governor's. .. . some of the

Governorfs Task Forces, yes. I'm not sure I under-

stand what your specific question is.n

Madigan: ''Governor Thompsoa appointed a Task Force on taxes

and spending which would reviev the same subject matter

and again. you feel the work of the proposed Commission

would be duplicative of tbe work of this other Commission ''

Daniels: ''l don't think we would duplicate that. I uader-

stand what the Governor was trying to do. He made

certaia recommendations. What Iîm saying is that the

Legislature ought to consider that real estate tax

structure in Illinois that is really encumbent upon

us because throughout Illinois kelre hearing the clamor

for either reduced level of assessment from the 33 and

a percent because of inflation. Some people are ex-.

perieacing the rapid inflatioaary growth of their

homes. Consequently higher taxes. But I don't think

that it's a question of duplicatlng the Governorfs Task

Commission. I think this is a Commtssion that would

be created by the Legislature and meeting our respon-

sibilities.''

Madigan: ''Mr. Speaker, I'd like to speak to the Bi11. Ifd

like to stand in opposition to the Bill, Mr. Speaker.

I feel that the Legislature has been the recipient of

numerous Commissions and Committees, studies, of the

real property tax. Certainly we have available to us

vhatever documentation and evidence could be developed

by this Commission. Ihere does not appear to be a need

for the Commission and certainly any money expended on

behalf of the Commission would be illadvised and should

not be expended by the state.l'

Speaker Redmond: ''Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien; 'îHouse Bill 11, a Bill for an Act creating tbe

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Real Property Tax Procedures Study Commission. Third

Reading of the Bill.'f

Speaker Redmoad: HRepresentative Skinner. Skinner.'f

Skinner: ''Mr. SpeakerzMembers of the General Assembly,

the question's been asked why is this Bill necessary .

This Bill is necessary because the joint Committee

that Senator Clark chaired in the. .from 1973 to 1977,

the recommendation from that joint Committee have not

been implemented. The man who stood to argue against

this Bill has refused to vote for the Bills that would

have implemented it. Nov, everyone's going to get another

chance because the Bill's I'm sponsoring that amead

the Revenue Act pretty closely follow the recommendations

It has been noted that the Governor appointed a Task

Force to study property taxes. Well, the Task Forces

recommendatioas also bave not been implemented. Now,

the Governor thinks itfs important enough to go around

the state and talk to people about unemployment and

workaens' comp changes. I believe it's important

enough f o r someone in the Legisla ture to be go ing around

the s tate t alking to people about property tax prob lems .

Now , f rom the roar that ' s in this room righ t now , one

can unders tand the t ax b ills haven ' t gone out in your

home counties yet . Wben they do go out s and whea you

see the tax b tlls inc reas ing well over 10Z and your

const i tuents ' salaries ao t increasing as f ast as the

t ax b i 1 1 s d o i nc r e a s e y I th ink y o u ma y c o me t o un d e r -

s t a n d t h a t u e a e e d a g r o u p o f L e' g i s 1 a t o r s w h o w i 1 1 b e

g o i n g a r o un d t h e s t a t e , t ry i n g t o f i nd o u t w h a t s h o u ld

b e done ab ou t p roperty tax e s Some th ing sho u1d

be done ab:ut property tax es 'and this Gene ral

As semb ly has done virtually no th ing ab ou t p ro p e rty t axy s

j 'This is prob ab ly no t much o a . . no t much o f

a f o rward movement in property tax ref o rm . But at l eas t

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it will allow Legislator... additional Legislators'

to become knowledgeable about the subject. So I would

urge your support.''

Spéaker Redmond: lfRepresentative Madigan.''

Madigan: nMr. Speakery thetsponsor has shown me an Amendment

whfch has already been adopted to the Bill and in light

of tbe Amendment I would like to withdraw my opposition

to the Bill.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Anything further? The question is, 'Shall

this Bill pass?' Those in favor vote fayel; opposed

vote ?mo'. Have al1 voted who wish? Tbe Clerk will

take the record. 0n this question there's 105 'aye',

and 11 'nof. The Bill, having received the Constitu-

tional Majority, is hereby declared passed. 2351.

Representative Ewing. Representative Ewing on the floor?

0ut of the record. 2722. Representative Pouncey.

0ut of the record. House Billss Third Reading. House

Bill 100? 0ut of the record. 262, Representative

Pierce. 282, Representative Younge. .out of the record.

331, Representative Kornowicz? Van Duyne? 447, Repre-

sentative Reilly. Reilly, 447? I take it Representatfve

Edgar's not on the floor. ''

Clerk o'Brien: ''Rouse Bill 447, a Bill for an Act to create

the School District Income Tax Actxin relation to

School Districtfs income tax. Third Reading of the

Bi11.H

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Reilly?o

Reilly: ''Mr. Speaker, If1l abide by your judgment. The

attendance is not great. This is a fairly controversial

Bill. 1'm perfectly willing to proceed on it.''

speaker Redmondl '%e11, if it's controversial, I would

recommend that you defe: it. 515, Stqffle? Represent-.

ative Stuffle, 515. 0ut of the record. 582, Representati e': Piel. 0ut of *he record. 644, Reyresentative Skinner.

Representative Skinner. 644. Page three.''

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Clerk O'Brien : ''House Bi11 644, a Bill for aa Act relating

to consultant services , their evaluation audtt and

record requirements. Third Reading of the Bil1.H

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Skinner.l'

Skinner: HLast session of the Appropriations Committee had

a sub-committee wh.ich evaluated consultant services

and the sub-committee .developed a number of Bills

which passed last yea'r. Tbis is a Bill which is parallel

with tbose Bills which did not get called last year.

What tt does is require that consultants' contracts

be evaluated and that those evaluations be made avail-!.

able to the public'. I think this is a step in the direct 'on

of greater accountability for those who have consulting . .

contracts aad I would ask for your' approval of the Bi1l.''

Speaker Redmond: l'Any discussion? The questton is, 'Shall

this Bill pass?' Those in favor vote 'aye'; oppoaed

vote fno'. Have al1 voted who wish? Clerk will take

the record. 0n this question there's 99 'aye' and no

'nay', and the Bill, having reeeived the Constitutional

Majority, is hereby declared passed. 745, Representative

Pullen. 0ut éf the record. 750, Representative

Skinner. Today's bargain day. Representative Borchers,

.' the son of a Democratic Congressman.''

Borchers: ''We11 thank you very much. I hate to ask indulgence

but soie Gentleman sent me some letters here that...

to make me, I suppose, a postman. If you don't mind,

1'11 just read their names and if youfll come over

Ifl1 gfve you letters, so.. whatever tbey may be.

I don't want to go around huntina you up. Ropp.

Bower. 0h, here. Rigbt here is yours. Right bere.

Johnson. Tim Jobnson. Brummer. Just a minute. Let

me get these things out of there. Kane. Dunn. And'

,f,thatls' it. Thank you.

Speaker Redmond: 'fArç you charging anything for that service?'f

Bcrchers: ''Do I get paid for this?''

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Speaker Redaoad :'1Yeah.''

Borcbers: HWho do put in my voucher to? You?''

Speaker Redmond :'fYeah. We'll take care of it. 757, Watson .

0ut of the record. Representative Skinaer.

Representative Skinner. You want this one, 800,

Hanahan? 0ut of the record. 821, Younge? 0ut of the

record. 830, Getty? 0ut of the record. 842, Marovitz?

Marovitz. 842. 0ut of the record. You've got another

one here, 677. Marovitz. Do you want that one called?

0ut of the record. 848, Schnéider? 0ut the record.

927, Representative Jobn Dunn. The Gentleman from

Macons out of the record. 932, O'Brien. And Marovitz.

0ut of the record.. 955, Katz? 958, White? Jesse

Whitey 958.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 958, a Bill for an Act creatiag

the Counselorls Registration and Ltcense Act Third

Reading of the Bil1.n

Whitè:u'Mr. Speak*r, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

I'd like to have leave to return this Bill to Second

Reading?''

Speaker Redmond: ''What was your motion?''

Wbite: Hlfd like to return the Bill to Second Reading.'t

Speaker Redmond: HDoes the Gentleman have leave to return

958 to the Order of Second Readtng? Hearing no oblection ,

leave is graated. Representative White.''

White: ''Mr. Speaker, like to leave itvon Second Reading.

The Amendment is being drafted.n

speaker Redmohd:''We.Fll leave it on Second Reading. ''

White: ''Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Marovitz, Out of the record.

980, Representative Skinner. Out of the record. 1002.

Cullerton? Representative Cullerton, 1002? 1016,

Mcpike? 0ut of the record. 1034, Representative

Braun. Is Representative Braun in the chamber? 1044,

Ewell? 1136, Representattve Skinaer. 1164, Hanahan?

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1166: Mcpike. 1192, Sandquist. 1202, Kelly. 1278,

Youagey out of the record. Marovitzy 1279. 1327,

Representative Totten. Totten...Totten in the chamber?

1371, Steczo. 1375, Katz. 1381, Steczo. 1384,

Younge. 1387, Representative Pullen. Representative

McBroomy will you step away and not bother Representa-

tive Pvllen. Okay. 0ut of the record. 1407,

Marovitz. 0ut of the record. 1410, Marovitz, out of

the record. 1476, Representative Hoffman. Hoffman...

out of the record. 1483, Katz-Greiman...Grefman: can

you handle that? 1483, out of the record. 1500,

Sktnner. 1503, Yourell. 0ut of the record. 1522,

Hanahan. 1566, Terzich. Who's that, a former Member?

Is former Representattve. Mudd there? 1567, Terzich.

1570, Terztch. 1624, John Dunn. John Duan, 1624.

1625, Skinner. 1629, Ninchester. 1673, Bowman. 1702,

Leverenz. Representative Levereaz on thèafléor?

' 1710 Representative Reilly. Reilly,0ut of the record. ,

1710, out of the record. 1729, out of tbe record.

1736, Marovitz, out of the record. 1741, Hoffman...

Gene Hoffman, out of the record. 1762, Molloy, out

of the record. 1765, Yourell. 0ut of the record.

1800, o'Brien, out of the record. 1810, Barnes.

Who's the sponsor of that Bill now? Peters. 1817,

Representative Skinner. You got a keeper here?'f

Skianer: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, if you notice I'm hôt calling

the significant Bills, youfre right...This is not

yj 'a ...

Clerk o'Brien: ''Hpdse Bill 1817, à Bill for an Act to

abolish the Illinois Building Authority, Third Reading

of the Bil1.'l

Skinner: 'îYeah, I'd be kidding you if I said this was

a...a super ioportant Bi1l. It is a recommendation

of the Governor's Cost Control Task Force which some

of you may reoember surfaced somewhere a couple of

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years ago and promised to savd us $500 000 000 a year.

Some Qf us have seen some press releases since then

that indicated that tt saved us $300,000,000 although

I haven't noticed any significant savings from the

task force. This is one of the agencies which exists:

in state government which doesn't have to exist. It is

called theilllinois Bufldiné Authorityjt and a1l tt

does:iâ.kp#ykqbondsioff. What this Bill does, it transfers

thàt authority to the Iapit.il Development Board, which1

is of course, our primary buildtng agency. It is a

E very simple little Bill. It says that it authorizes

the Capitol Developpent Board to take the place of

the Illinios Building Authority. I would ask for your

support of this...what I basically tbink is a clean up

Bill for state government.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question is êshall

this Bill pass?'. Those in favor vote 'aye', opposed

vote lnof. Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will take

the record. Representative Lechowicz.''

Lechowfcz: HI want a verification.''

Speaker Redmond: 'lHave a1l voted who wish? The Clerk will '

take the record. 0n this question there's 97 faye'#

and six 'noe...Representàtive Lechdwicz has...requested

a verification. Representative Skfnner.'l

Skinner: HI didn't know this was going to cause this much

controversyz Mr. Speaker. I guess 1:11 have to ask

for a Poll of the Absentees although I hardly know

why it is wotth either a Poll of the Absentees or a

verification. They can always kill it in the Senate

if they don't like it.''

Speaker Redmoad: ''Poll.of the Absenteesy Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: nPoll.of the Absentees. Abramson, Beatty,

Btrkinbine, Bluthardt, Bowman, Bradley, Braun, Breslin,

Campbell, Capparelli, Casey, Chapman, Coatiy Cullerton,

Currie, Dawson, Diprima, Domico, Donovan, Doyle,

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Ewell, Ewing, Farley, Virginia Fried...virginia Frederick

Gaines, Garmisa, Getty, Giorgi, Goodwin, Hoxsey, Jaffe,

Emil Jones, Katz, Keane, Klosak, Kornowicz, Kucharski,

Kulasy Laurino, Leineweber, MacDonald, Mccourt, Mcpike,

Meyer, Mugalian, O'Brien, Pierce, Ropp, Sandquist,

Satterthwaite, Sdhisler, Schlickman. Schneider, Shuneman,

Stanley, Stearney, E.G. Steele, Sumner, Swanstrom, Taylor,

Totten, Tuerk, VanDuyne, Vinson, Vitek, Watson,

Willer, Williams,.Williamson, Sam Wolf, Yourell, Mr.

Speaker.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Sumner, 'ayel. Represent-

ative Stanley, raye'. Now whatls the count? Represent-

' ative Hoxsey , eaye'. Watson 'aye'. Gaines, 'aye '.

Bowman, 'aye'. Goodwin, 'aye'. Marovitz,...Represent-

ative Marovitz, 'ao'. Representative Jesse White, 'nof.

Representative Ropp, 'aye'. Representative Ewing,

'aye'....Representative Donovan, 'aye'. Now Representa-

tive Lechowicz, how many are there now. Mr. Clerk?

106 'ayel.- Representative Lechowicz.''

Lechowicz: uWe11 Mr. Speaker, I am going to withdraw my

request for a veriffcation, but I just want the

Membership to know, this is one of the few state

agenctes that receive pratse by a malor chtcago newsm

paper for the fiue job that they've done. And by you

voting 'ayellon thts Bill have fully elimiaated one of

the few ageacies that has done a jood job in the 11

State of Illinois and giving it to the Capital

Development Board. Alright...l Personally do not

think that an agency that has done a good job with

a very nominal appropriation should be consolidated

with anotber agency which was originally developed

for a different purpose and scope in state government.

For that reason I voted 'ao'. Thank you.o1

speaker Redmond: ''0n this question chere's 106 'aye', how

many 'no' Mr. Clerk? Seven 'noê- .eight 'ao'. The

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Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is

hereby declared passed. 1823.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 1823, a Bill for an Act to

amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code: Third

Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Donovan. Donovany 1823.

John Donovan. Tim Donovan, pardon me. There we go.

John was your brother.f'

Donovaa: HMay I ask leave of the House to return to Second

Readfpg for purposes of Amendments?p

Speaker Redmond: HDoes the Gentleman have leave to return

1823 to the order of Second Reading? Hearing no

objection, leave is granted.''

Donovan: HAlright, Amendment //1 to House Bill 18..:'

Speaker Redmond: ''Wi1l you read the Amendment, Mr. Clerk?n

Clerk o'Briea: ''Amendment .#1, Donovan, amends House Bill

1823 on page one, line 28 and so forth.''

Donovan: ''Okay, the purpose of the Amendment is to allow

the Department moée leeway in determining vho shall

report the monthly reporttng to the Department. It

allows the people like the blind, the deaf, the shut-

ins which have sometimes problems with reportipg

every month to the Department. It allows the Depart-

ment by rule making to find some other way to simplify

the distribution, filing, and processing of these

monthly claims.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny discussion? The question is ;Sha11

this Bill pass?l Those in favor vote 'aye'. opposed

vote...pardon me. The question is on the Gentleman's'motion for the adoption of Amendment //2. Those in

favor say 'ayef laye' opposed lnol The 'ayes' have>

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it. The motion carried. The Amendment is adopted. A y .'.

furtber Amendmeats?'' '

Clerk o'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''

speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 1878, Representative

Richmond...189O, out of the record. 1892: Representat e

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Mulcahey? Mulcahey? Out of the record. 1952,

Representative Steele? E.G. Steele? 0ut of the record.

2022, Represeatattve Taylor? 0ut of the record. 2025,

Representative Alexander. Representati = Alexander.''

Clerk O'Brien: l'House Bill 2025 a Bill for an Act adding

Sections to an Act codifying the powers and the duttes

of the Department of Mental Health .and Developmental

Disability. Thtrd Reading of the Bi11.H

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Alexander.p

Alexander: 'lMr. Speaker, Legislators, this Bill is a very

simple Bi11. It. would provide services that are vastly

and grossly needed in our injtitutions khere w'e' have

prisoners tncarcerated. It would require the DepartmentA.

of Mental Hea1th add Development to provide services

for immates who' have déep psychosis and mental problems.

Cook County Hosp.. The Cook County at present at

Cermak gospital' has bee'n able to provide some facilitie

for those immates, but the vast ma/ority of other counties

in county Jails throùghout the state do not have these

facilities. This Btll would enable your county to be

provided vith this service. This Bill further extends to

the State Department of Corrections that persons incar-

cerated there would likewise be given some consideratton

or mental evàlution vwith rejârd to their problems.' It

is now a problem where persons are going into these

institutions with these deep-seated mental psychosis

returning to the c'onmunties and committing the crimes

again. Ihis.would enable our Mental Health Department

to evaluate, to admiaistrate the necessary medicines

and medicatioas which we hope will be able to decrease

the now ..... deterrent to our communfties with ehese

problems. I asi for a favorable vote.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any 'discussion? Representative Johnson .''

h ''I this Ame'ndment Representative Alexander?ffJo nson: s y

Alexander: '1*0, it is not. It would be an Amendment to the .

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statute, but it is not an Amendment per se.''

Johnson ; HOkay. Wells thereason I ask is that uatit a split'

second ago they had Second Reading on the Board. Well

1et me understand. I wasn't paying a lot of attentioa

cause it looked like you vere Just putting a routine

Amendment on, but I understand this is the Bill. Can

you telllus what the fiscal impact of thfs Bill will

be?''

Alexander: HThe fiscal tmpact has been fited with the Clerk

and at present I do not have that information. If you

will allov me to, 1911 get that information for you

immediately following this discussion wetre having.

It is already filed.''

Johnson: ''We11 you mean, you're going to give me the fiscal

information before or after I vote on it?''

Alexaader: ''We11, if you want, we could take it out and

then go up to the Clerk's desk and get that informatton.

did not bring my whole package on this Bill with me.''

Johnson: ''Yeah, I think you ought to take it out of the record.

Gettiag the faformation afterwards would be kind of

useless.''

Alexander: ''Okayy fine. Could you take it out, Mr. Speaker,

add allow me to get that iaformation for hin?''

Speaker Redmond: nTake it out of the record. 2035, Lecbowicz.

Representative Lechowtcz.f'

Lechowicz: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would you please table

House Bill 2035 and 2036?11

Speaker Redmond: ''The Centleman asks lezve to table 2035

and 2036. Does he have leave? Hearing no objectton,

they're tabted. 2044, Representative Skianer. 2045,

RepresentatiVe Simms. 2044, is Skinner. 2045 is

Simms. 0ut of the record. 2069, Representative Hoxsey .

0ut of the record. 2082, Sharp? 119, Represenattve

Stanley. Seven o'clock closing. 2182, Representative

Robbins. Robbins? 0ut of the record. 2218: Farley.

Farley back there? 2221, Iaylor? 0ut of the record.

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2222, Skinner. Represeatative Robbins, did you want

your Bill called? 2182? Skianer 2222? 2224, Taylor?

2225, Taylor? Both of those out df the record. 2272,

Kane? Repreeentattve Kane, 2272. 0ut of the record.

2275, Daniels? 2314, Willtams. 0ut of the record. 2316,

Mcpike?

Clerk o'Brien: HHouse Bill 2316, a Bill for an Act to amend the

State Parks and Nature Preserve Act. Third Reading of

the Bi11.H

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Mcpike.''

Mcpike: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. move to table House

Bill 2316.01

Speaker Redmond: ''Does the Gentleman have leave to table

2316? Hearing no objections, leav e is granted and the

Bill tabled. 2383. Representative Dyer. Dyer,

2383.1'

Dyer: ''Mr. Speaker, I1d like leave of the Rouse to table

C- u, .2383.<>' Speaker Redmond: l'Does she have leave to table T383? Hearing

I j,J'%,% no objections, leave is granted. Tbe Bill is tabled.(. hOJ. - ' 2453

, Langdoa Patrick? 0ut of the record. 2475,

Representative Gaines. 2495, Leverenz? Representative

Leverenz? 0ut of the record.. 2496, Leverenz. Wait a

minute. Wait a minute. 2497, Leverenz? 2502 Patrick?

Patrick, 2502? 0ut of the record. 2512, Laurino. 0ut

of the record. 2524, Hanahan. 0ut of the record. 2530,

Pierce? Pierce, 2530? 2530... 2572, Representative

Aaderson. Anderson, 25727 0ut of the record. 2607,

Currie? Currie? What are you doing over there? 0ut of

the record. 2621, Bower. 0ut of the record. 2676,

Winchester. i:

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2676, a Bill for an Act t amend

Sections of the Election Code. Third Reading of the

Bil1Z1

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Winchester.''

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Winchester: HThank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen

of the House. House Bill 2676 does two things. The

latter was put on as' an Ameadment last week which

would jusc eliminate the blind primary in Illinots, would

revert tt back to the same system that we were using:

prior to last year when we passed the new legislation.

The other concept is is a concept that was passed into

1aw under House Bill 834 and i's now a Public Act.

would ask that that tHe House pass this Bill based on

the fact that it would eliminate the prim. . the blind

primary which think most of us agrçe is a.. probably

a very unfair program and should be eliminated.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question is, 'Shall

this Bill pass?' Those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed

vote 'no' Al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish?

Have a11 voted who wish? Clerk will take the record'.

0n this question there are fayef, no 'no'. The Bill,

having received the Constitutioaal Majority, is hereby

declared passed. 2703. O'Brien. 0ut of the record.

2712, Representative Hallstrom, do you want to handle

that? Garmisa. 0ut of the record. 2723, Daniels.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2723, a Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Third

Reading of the Bi11.H

Daniels:lv'vllMr. Speaker, iadies and Gentlemen of the House,

House Bi11 2723 amends tbe Illinois Income Tax Act by

providing the exclusion from taxable income of èstates'

and trusts of any amount permanently set aside for

charitable purposes. Thelpurpose of this Bill is to

follow the federal rule that provides that a charitable

trust are exequ from taxation except a: to any unrelated I

business iacome and the amounts distributed to nonchari-

table beneficiaries are sublect to taxation. This

brings the Illinois law accordance with the federal

law and tt's a recommendation of the Illinöis Bar and

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Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Skihner.''

Skinner: 'Q don't want to be tricked by Bills like this.

Could you tell us who wins and who loses? And itfs

obvious that the state.'s going to lose. Wio's going toWin?''

Winchester: HWe11 I don't think that anybody's going to

lose. The state is not going to lose in terms that

we are still protecting the bustness income. This is

only as to that amount set aside for charitable purposes.''

Skinner: 'fWe11 if nobody's going to lose, the Bill's not#

'

necessary.''

Winchester: nWe11 I.. that's your opinion: Sir.l'>

Skinner: ''We11, tf nobody... Every Bill we pass here,

somebody wins on and somebody/loses on.''

Winchseter: guess you could sqy if we don't pass this

Bill: ve are harming charities.l'

Skianer: HWhich... Give me a specific chartty who's going

to win. Representative Schoeberlein suggests he would

likerto be one of those charities that will win. Who

would they be?''

Winchester: ''An example would be the University of Illinois.l'

Skinner: HThéir foundation?''

Winchester: ''Their founda...''

Skinner: ''The one that's in perpertual trouble'.bwith the

Auditor General?î'

Winchester: ''We11 you asked me for an example, gave you

11One .

Skinner: ''Yov have a better example?''

Winchester: ''No that's what I have.n

Skinner: ''Do you have any bananas?''

Speaker Redmond: HAnything further? The question is, 'Shall

this Bill pass?' Those in favor vote 'aye' opposed

vote 'aof Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted

who wish? The Clerk.will take the record. 0n this questio

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there are 107 'aye' and 11 'no' and the Bill, having

received the constitutional Majority, is hereby declared

passed. Announcements? Reptesentative Pierce, do you

have oae with respect to your energy .meeoing?''

Pierce: nMr. Speaker, the National Conference of State

Leéislatures and the Illtnois Energy Resources Commission

are jotntly sponsoriag a program from Yne thirty to

f u r t h i r t y t o d a y t n r o om 4 0 0 i) f th e c a p i t o 1 o n e n e r g yo

conservation. I think programs on the meetiag have been

paased out to most of you. There is of course, no admis-.

sion fee. Staff members and the public are welcome, but

' ft fs afmed prïmarfly at Legislators. It's a Legfslatfve

Workshop on energy conservation options for Illinois,

in view of the state facilities, the role of utilities,

and energy conservation and transportation and construc-

tion. I hope a11 ofiyou will be able to attend a11 or

at least part of the meeting in room 400 6f the capitoa

today from one thirty to four thirty, but you can

come and go of course as you jlease. People have come

from Washiagton for this meeting and from Denver. It's

sponsored by the 'National Conference of State Legislatures

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Speaker Redmond: HAny Commtttee Chairman? Representative

Leoa, Financial Institutions?'' ' ' ?

Leon: HThere will be a meeting at two o'clock of the Ffnancial .

Iastttutions Committee. We have three Bills and

I believe wefll be able to sew it up this afternoon.

Thank you.'' '

Matijevich: HMr. Speaker, Members of the House, Appropriations

I Committee is off to an early start this year. Wefre

ting at two o'clock in the usual meefing room.mee

Thank you.t'

Speaker Redmond: 'Qudiciary II? Whols the Chairman of that?

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Katz? Representative Roman Kosinski.''

Kosinski: î'There will be a meeting of Judiciary 11 at two '

o'clock or immediqtely after thià legtslative meeting.''

Speaker Redmond: 'Qlementary and Secondàry Education is

posted for two o'clock. Representative Katz. Rules at '

v %two o clock. Anything else? Representative GiorRi?

Well, let's do that a little liter. Huh? Representative

Marovitz?n

Marovitz: 'Qhank you, Mr. Speaker. I'4 like leave of the

House to table House Bill 3274.'1

Speaker Redmond: f'Does he have leave? Hearing no objection,

leave is granted. .3274 is tabled. Representative

Madigan?''

Madigan: HMr. Speaker, the Clerk indicates he'd like ten

minutes for perfunctory Session and with that I move

that we recess till six p.m. tonight for Session, Mr.

Speaker. Six p.m. tonight for Session. Six p.m. tonight.

The Speaker has compelled usuto be here at six o'clock

tonight.''

' Speaker Redmond: lîYoudve heard... Don't cry to me on the

25th of April. Representative Polk.i'

Polk: ''We1l Mr. Speaker, just a questfon. Did we not go.#

through the Calendar for Tbird Readiags?'î

Speaker Redmond: 'IYes, we did.l'

Polk: ''We1l can you just... I realize that you've set the9 .

schedule and I compliment you for doing that and we

al1 appreciate it. But I'm wondering what is the pur-

pose of coming back this evening?

Speaker Redmond: HIf it's the wish of the Membership not to

come this evening, wby a11 they have to do is to not

vote in favor of this motion.''

Polk: HWel1 1... If there's work to be done, you know that

1'11 be here, sir. But if we've gone through the Calenda

' ' dering what the purpose- .''I m Jusc won

Speaker Redmond: HWe11, the only The only thing is that

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many of the Members took.. took their Bills out of the

record. We have a deadline of, I believe it's April the

25th on a11 Spring Calendar Bills. Maybe people didnft

call the Bills because of the sparse attendance. I really

don't know. I just want to give them the opportunity.

Table them. I would encourage people to table Bills.

That would diminish our work load very substantially. I

meaa itls... .'I don't want to be here six o'clock anymore

than anybody else, but I want every Member to have a full

opportunity to be heard, that's all. The question is

on Repreaentattve Madigan's motion that we now recess unti.

six o'clock tonight. Those in favor indicate by saying

'aye', laye'; opposed 'no' In the opinion of the Chair,

the motion carries. Stand in recess till six o'clock

tonight.''

Clerk Leone: 'Qntroduction and First Reading; House Bill 3342,

Borchersy a Bill for aa Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax

Law. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3343,

Stuffle-McAuliffe: a Bill for an Act to amend Sections

of an Act in relation to state police. First Reading of

the Bill. House Bill 3344, Epton, et. a1., a Bill for

an Act. to amend Sections of the Illinois Insurance Code.

First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3345, Mulcahey,

a Bill for an Act to amead Sections of the School Code.

First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3346, Simms, a Bill

for an Act in relatfon.to the establishment of a rqyl

estate i.inïex nvpber system and.map-making departmept

in the Office of the Recorder 6f Deeds. First Reading

of the Bi1l. House Bill 3347, Matijevich, a Bill for an

Act to amend Sections of the Civil A'dministratfve Code

of Illinois. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill

3348, Hannig, a Bill for an Act in relation to local

tax loss reimbursement for state parks. First Reading

of the Bi11. House Bill 3345.. 49, Greiman, a Bill for

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an Act relating to mortgages. First Reading of the

Bi11. House Bill 3350, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act

making appropriation for the Chafa Qltakes Fox River

Commission . First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3351,

Johnson-stuffle-Ropp-Woodyardy a Bill férran Act to admit

ad Sectioas to the Motor Fuel Tax Law. First Readiag

of the Bi11. House Bill 3352, Steczo, a Bill for an

Act in relation to school transportation. First

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3353, Steczo, a Bill

for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of

the Bi11. House Bill 3354, Steczo, a Bill for an Act

to add Sections to the School Code. Ftrst Reading of

the Bill . House Bill 3355, Davis, a Bill for an Act

to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. First Reading of

the Bill. House' Bill 3356, Pechous, a Bill for an Act

to amend Sections of the Illinois Municfpyl Code. First

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3357, Rigney: a Bill for

an Act relating to creation of an Ambulance District.

First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3358, Dawson,

et. a1., a Bill for an Act pro/iding for loans for certain

corporations. First Read.ing of the Bill. Hous:e Bill 3359,

Burnidge, a Bill for an Act to authorize the Department

of Conservation to convey certain lands to the Sanitary

District of Elgin. First Reading of the Bi11. Eouse Bill

3360, Dunn-Donovan, et. a1., a Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of tHe Bill.

House Bill 3361, Dunn-Donvan- etc a1., a Btll for an

Act to amend the Election Code. Ftrst Reéding of the

Bill. House Bill 3362, Sandquist, et. al., a Bill for

an Act t'o amend Sections of the Criminal Code. First

Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3363, Johnson-laffe, a

Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act 'requiring

compensation for causing deathsaby wrongful act, neglect,

or default. First Reading of the Bil1L

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House Bill 3364, Johnson-laffe, a Bill for aa Act

to amend Sections of an Act requiring compensation

for causing deaths by wrongful act, neglect, or

default. First Reading of the Bill. Rouse Bill

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Meyery a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in

relation to state finance. First Reading of' the' Bill

House Bill 3366, Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Illinois Envirqnmental Facitities Financin

Act. First Readfng of the Bf11. House Bill 3367, Deuster,

a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the MotorlFuel

Tax Law. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3368,

Mcclain, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Occupation

and Dse Tax Act with respect to percentage of revenues

there from to be transferred to the Motor Fuel Tax Fund.

First Reading of the Bi11. Bouse Bill 3369, Sandqutst,

a Bill for an Act to add Articles to the Illinois Insuranc

Code, First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 3370, a

Bfll for an Act to amead Sections of the Illinaïs

Vehtcle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill

3371, a Bill for an Aét to addlsections to an Act to desig-

nate certain areas of state parks, memorial parkways,

lboatiqyaccess areas, recreational areas, conservation

areas and to vész- jurtsdiction over them to the Departme t

of Conservation.. First Reading of the Bill. 'House Bill

3372, Winchester, a Bill for an Act to add Sectioes to

the School Code.' First Reading of the Bill. House Bill

3373, Doyle, et. al.p a Bill for an Act to amend Sections

of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bi11.

Hou#.e-Bill 3374, Doyle, et. al., a Bill for an Act

v, ' to amend Sections of the Illinots Pension Code. First- . .!--

h Reading of the Bi11. Having no further business, theh é.' .'zp N Rouse now stands adjourned till six.. recessed till

six p.m .''

Speaker Redmond: ''House vi1l come to order. Members please

Jbe iq their seats. A1l those not entmtled to the House

Floor please retire to the gallery. Agreed Resolutions.

Commtttee Reports. ''

clerk O'Brien: ''Representative Leon, Chairman of the Committee

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on Financial Instituttons, to which the following

Bills were referred, action taken April 8, 1980, report

the same back with following recommendations; 'Do pass

as amended' House Bill 2318. 'Do pass as amended Short

Debate Calendar' House Bill 1563. Representative Scbneide ,

Chairman of the Committee od Elementary and Secondary

Education to which the following Bills were referred,

action taken April 8, 1980, report the same back with

following recommenations; Scratch that. Representative'

Scaeider, Chairman of the Committee on Elementary and

Secondary Education, report the following Committee

Bi11 for tntroduction; House Bill 3376, action taken

April 8th, 1980. Representative Schneiders Chairman of

the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education report

the following Committee Bill for introduction; House Bill

3377, action taken April 8, 1980. Representative Leon,

. .a Representative Mulcahey, Viee-chairdan of the Committe

on Elementary and w.t,That's what I Just read. ''

Speaker Redmond: 'Qatroduction and First Readingi''

Clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 3375, EmilElones, a Bill for an

Act in relation to the openess of standardized tests

used for occupational licensing. First Reading of the

Bill. House Bill 3376, Committee on Elementary and

Secondary Education, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections o

the School Code. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill

3377 Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education:

a Bi11 for an Act te amend Sections of the School Code.

First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3378, Marovitz-

Telcser-sandqutste lmond-Ryaa-Terztch-et. a1., a Bill for

an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code,of 1961.

First Reading of the Bill. ''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Wàlsh is in the chamber.

We did already. We had Comdittee Reports in the record an

we beat the system by a day so.. Try House Bills, Second

Reading, Short Debate. 1801, Representative Skinner.

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You wan t to go with that one? Representative Collins.''

ollins: ''Mr. Speaker, I have been victimized by evil rules and

I would ask leave to be re=oved as the Co-sponsor of

House Bill 3037.''

Speaker Redmond: ï'Is there any objection? Hearing no objection,

leave...'' ' '

o l 1 i n s : 11 M r S p e a k e r , t h i s w a s a n e v i 1 C* a b a l .:. , a n d I m u s t b e

removed H '

Speaker Redmond: Hokay. There being no objectioa, alright.

How about Representative Skinner on 1801? 0ut of the

record. 1980. Griesheimer. 0ut of the record. 2211,

Schneider. 0ut of tbe record. 276, House Bills, Secoad

Reading. 276. Ca11... Read the Bill, Mr.clerk.''

lerk ofBrien :'fnouse Bill 276, a Bill for an Act to amend

the Retailersî occupation Taxy Use Tax, Service Okcup4tion

Tax and Service Use Tax. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendment //1 was adopted in Committee.'' '

Speaker Redmond: HIs there any motion with respect to Amendment

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Clerk OîBrien:nNo motions filed.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk O'Brien: uAmendment //2, Bowman, amends House Bill

276 as amended in Section 1 and so forth.'î

Speaker Redmond: ''Whols the Spoasor? Representative Bowmanz'

Or Darrow?''

Darrow: 'Qowman's the Sponsor of the Amendment and Iil'm Fopposing

i 2 . ' '

. Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Bowman.l'

Bowman: 'Qhank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. House Bill 276 as Representative Darrow amended

it in Committee is essentially the Governor's program foo

sales tax felief on food and medicine. Ia the form to

which I propose the Amendment, Representative Darrow,

would propose to simply remove one cent from the sales i

tax on January lst' and 1et it go at tbat. Presumedly we

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would discuss removal of the remainder at some future

date. However, there is, I think, a problem that we

have a11 seen with respect to the adminfstration of the. JI

tax relfef on fooâ and aedfcine. I knov that I've

talked to a number of Members of the General Assembly

wbo say that they've talked to retailers who are having

problems with the split level tax. And now I thiak if

we're going to be phasing out the tax over a peripd of

time, where we could see the end of the road, where Ve

could see the light at the end of the tunnel, then that

might be permissible as a temporary kind of expediçnce,

it a split levei'tax. Hovever, we have no realto permassurances that in the lighc of change in economic condi-

tions for the worse that we#re goiag to be able to take

subsequent pennies off the sales tax on food and medicine

at a later date. So we may be in a posture of having to

in effect live with the particular tax relfef proposal

that goes through this General Assembly for some time to

come, not just one more year. Tberefore, I rise to pro-

pose Amendment //1 (sicl' which eliminates the tax on food

and medicine insofar as the state tax collections are

concerned altogether on January 1. In other words,

instead of reducing about one centy werre reducing by

three cents. Myzfeeling is that we can afford to take tbe

step at this particular moment in time while inflation is

still ruaning rampant because, as you know, revenues are

very sensitive to the rate of inflation. Expenditures

are aot particularly sensitive to unemployment, at least

in the short run. So I think that if we are able to

take the plunge right aow, that we sbould be able to

get the state tax remoVed in its entiretyy virtually

right away. Now, that still leaves the local cent. How-

ever, that should not create nearly such a problem for th

retailers because it's very easy to compute a one cent

sales tax simply by moving the decimal point over on the

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total. And so uhat simply would not need fancy machinery

to do. Anybody can simply move a decimal point over

and compute the tax, the one cent tax thatîs remaining

in most muaicipalities throughout the state. So I think

that this solves a problem that we have been confronted

with. It leaves us in a posture where we can have a

significant tax relief program and that we can live

with for a number of years if, indeed, that is what we

have to do. And so that is why I#m offering this particu-

1ar Amendmeat to the House at this time and despite Repre-

sentative Darrow's objections which Lcthink are sèmewhat

short-sighted, I ùrge its adoption.'î

Speàker Redmond: ''Representative Skinner.'î

Skinner: 1'Mr. Speaker, one always knows when the prior speaker

is argutng illogically because his vords do not flow

as freely as when he is arguing a poiat that is logical.

He argues against the split tax, and yet, he proposes as

Amendment which leaves a split tax. It doesn't matter

whether the tax is one percent tax or a three percent

tax. The small jrocer is still going to bafe

to separate the food froy the nonfood item. Nowy I concur

with his .. his Judgment of this administration and perhap

the future of the split tax. We may always have a split

tax. If a Republican ad=inistration, a supposedly con-

servative... fiscally conservattve administration cannot

promise to make a multi-year commitment to phase oût the

sales tax on food and drugs: who can expect a Governor

like Governor Walker or whoever the next Democratfc

Governor, God forbid to make the same promise? But,i

this Amend:ent really doein't make sense. And I donlt I

know what.. what objection the Sponsor of the Bill will

make, but whatever it is, I'm sure it's legitimate.

Because this Amendment really, if you just stood it up

oa end, it probably xoBld... would burn into a puff of

smoke. It is.. It's so insubstantfal. unsubstantial.

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I would encourage people to vote against it. Let's get

on to vhat the Governor's willing to agree to. It has

Democratic Sponsorship. What more could you want?'f

Speaker Redmoad: HRepresentative Collins.''

Collins: HWe11 thaak you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemea: .

of the House. This, I think, is beyond the category

of beating a dead horse. This is an exercise in cynicism .

I think that we have treated the people to too much phoney

. tax reltef oger the last year and here we go again by

offering the same .. the same old, tired argument and same

o1d tired Amendments. We haveaall agreed, I thinky that

the Governor has taken the lead and I think in a bi-partf-

san approach to the tax relief. We have a11 agreed that

we can take the one cent off thts year. But, for God's

sakes, let's quit tryiag to fool the people. Get

elected on some other' issue. If we're going to address our

selves to tax relief on sa.. on food and medicine, January

is plenty of time to do it. We know we can afford one

cent now. We don't know vhat we can do beyond that. I

think this is a reasonable approach. Letls see what we

have in our bank account. Let's give our people the

relief that they're crying for, but let's aot 1ie to

them. Let's not fool them. Let's take a realistic

approach. Letfs beat this Amendment now. Let's take the

step forward that the Governor . proposed in his message

to give additional one cent tax relief to the people that

we can afford, we know we qan afford and which theyîre

j , 'crying for. But 1et s nots 1et s not put them through

the phoney debate that we went through earlier this

year and last year. You know it's a phoney. I know it's

a phoney. They should know it's a pboney by now. Let's

beat this Amendment.''

peaker Redmond: HAnything furthef? Representative Darrow.''

arrow: ''I'd just like to state that if thfs Amendment goes on,

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welre going to have a situation where the municipalities

will still have one percent sales tax. You can bet that

theybre going to be down here wanting some help with

tbat because the grocers and the drug stores are going to

still have to charge one percent. I tbink the other side

of the aisle has stated the case very well. I would merely

ask for a 'ao,# vote on this Amendment.'l

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Bowmany to close.''

Bowmaa: ''We1l, Mr. Speakery Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

Iîm really very, very dfsappofnted fn the speakers uho

rose to object to this. I mean, you would think that

if we had a tax reliéf proposal here that someone wanted

to object to in a legitimate stratght forward fasbion, the

would get up and they would say, fLook; here is whywe can't afford this,luand cite chapter and verse and give

us. some numbers. You know, I didn't hear anybody get up

and argue on the basis of the facts. I didn't hear anybody

get up and argue on the basis of the economics :of this.

I didn't hear anyone get up and argue on the basis of

the budget, who had any facts to cite. We hear the same

tired arguments from the other side of the aisle that

allude to possible pbobleos in financing. Heck, those are

the same arguments that we Yeard when they were desperatel

trying to .. to bail out thè Governor before he had his l

change of heart. You know, I think the Governor has got

to be beaten over the head until he sees stars before he

realizes something. Aad I think that we would be doing

the people of this state a disservice. Ia fact, we would

be dotng the Governor a disservice if we didn't try

and project the case as'it is, if we didn't try aad tell

the people the way it is, if didn't tell the people that

the money is there, ve can afford it, and by golly, they

deserve tax relief. Aad this is, in fact..a different

approach because we have never' had a Bill that takes the

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state tax off a1l at once in one fell swoop. The retail

merchants do aot object to sorting the goods into two

different piles. They have to do that now when they have

t'i.ivrtln .any event, what they object to is the calculations

that are required to come up with the final tax bill. The

donft like the two tier tax system because their machines

canlt handle it. But this is something that the machines

can haadle because a11 they have to do is move the

decimal point over one place. You know, I think tf

tbe opponents had the facts on Lheir sidey they'd use

them. The fact that they didnft, leaves me to conclude

that it's a1l so much bot air and we ought to adopt this

Amendment. Now is the time for real tax relief. Thank

11you.

Speaker Redmond: HThe question's on the Gentleman's motioa

for the adoption of Amendment 2. Those in favor vote '

'ayel; opposed vote 'nof. Rave a11 voted who wish?Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Clerk

will také the record. ,0n this question there's 46 'aye'

and 56 'no' and the motfon fails. Any furtber Amendments? '

Clerk O'Brien: HNo furtier Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: 'Qhird Reading. How about 1920? Cullerton?

2349, Ropp? ''

clerk o'Brien: ''House Bill 2349...'1 L ,

speaker Redmond: 'Q don't see... Representative Ropp, do you

want to jo wttb that? ''

clerk O'Brien: 1'A Bill for an Act directing the Director of

Conservation to convey certain real property.. Second

Reading of the Bill. Amendments 1,2, and 5 were adopted

jy 'in committee.

Speaker Redmond: ''Any motions with respect to the Committee

Amendménts?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Amendment //5, therefs a motion to table

Amendment I15 by Representative Ropp.l'

Speaker Redmoad: HRepresentative Ropp.''

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Ropp: HMr. Speaker aad Members of the House, this particular

motion takes off an Amendmeat.l that really didn't

pertain to the Bill itself and I#d like to Just put the

Btll in its proper order as the Sponsor originally

intended. And that's what this particular motion does.

It rexoves Amendment #5.î'

SpeakerrRedmond: 'IRepresentative Brummer. Representative Brumme .H

Brummer: don't have the Amendment tn front of me. I wonder

if the Gentleman could explain the Amendment that he wants

to table?''

Ropp: Hlhe Amendment éells tiree existipg state parl. in the

44th District, ongoing parks that are providing recreation l

facilities, boating facilities, camping facilities and

so forth and we'd just like to remove that.''

Brummer: HThank you.'î

Speaker Redmond: 'fRepresentative Darrow.''

Darrow: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Schraeder is

not here today. I believe he's the Sponsor of the Amendmen .

If out of courtesy, we could take it out of the recordt

till he comes here, I think we'd a11 feel better.''

Speaker Redmond) 'fWho was the Sponsor of the Amendment?'l

Darrow: ''Schraeder. This takes off Fred Schraeder's Amendment.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ropp.''

Ropp::l'Alright. I thought that I had seen him in this after-

noon. That's why Iwwent ahead with the Btll tonight.''

speaker Redmond: ''Did you see him tonight? Is that why you

want to go ahead tonight?n

Ropp: ''I Just assumed hegd be here tonight.l'

Sjeaker Redmond: HWel1. I think in view of the slim attendance

wefd probably better take this out of the record now.

Agreed Resolutions. 'iAgreed Resolutions.''

Clerk o'Brien: î'House Resolution 672,Barnes, 673, Meyer-

Huskey-Barnes, 674, Barnes, 675, Deuster, 676: Stuffle-

Kane, 677, Pechous, 678, Mautino, 679, Mulcahey, 680,

Davis, 681, Pechous, 683, Johnson, 684, Redmond, 685,

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Bullocky 686, Redmond-Daniels-Hoffman, 687, Lechowicz.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Giorgi.n

Giorgi: 1'Mr. Speaker, 672 by Barnes notes the 50 years of

ordination. 673 by Meye/s records a Golden Anniversary

of Moaseigc or'vida'. 674 by Barnes tells us about

Daniel went to bo'y scout eagle award scout. 675 by Deust r

spreads on the record an eagle scout award. 676 by

Stuffle tells ué of everybodyls friend police Lieutenant

Cûrly. Rogers who's retiring from Springfield. 677 by

Pechous approves of a marriage pending tn Berwyn 678

by Mautino tells us about the proud people of his area

that have Miés Illinois USA of 1980. 679 by Mulcahey

delights us with 'DuraMî citizea of the year 680 by

Davis recognizes Father Murray. 681 by Pechous relates

to 50 year weddiqg anniversary. 683 by Johnson brags

about the University of Illinois fightiag Illini baseball.

Ibasketball team. 684 by Redmond dedicates April 20th thro gh

the 26th the Week of theYâlng Child. 685 by Bullock/1

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asks us to honor 'Al Beamday'. 686 by Redmond notes the

recipient of the Illinois Retail Merchants Association

Award of the Year. And 687 by Lechowtcz heralds the

Xorth Park College basketball coach. And I move for the

adoption of the Agreed Resolutions.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ciorgi moves the adoption of

the Agreed Resolutions. A11 those in favor say 'âyy',

'aye'; opposed lnol. The 'ayeils have it. The motion

carries. The Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolution.''

Clerk O'Brien: l'House Resolution 682, Kulas, with kespect to

the memory of the most Reverend Gabriel of Chicago,

Illinois.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Giorgi moves the adoption

of the Death Resolution. Those in favor say 'ayeî 'aye'.

Opposed lno'. The 'ayéîs have it. The motion carries.

The Death Resolution' is adopted. Agreed Resolutions.''

Clerk O'Brfen: 'Qouse Resolution 688, Kornowicz, ets a1.''

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Speaker Redmoad: ''Representative Giorgirî' '

iorgi: nHouse Resolutton 688 by Kornowicz honors Reverend

'Medrickl and I move for the adm tiou of the Agreed ' '

'

peaker Redmond: HThe'Gentleman 'has moved for the adotion . ' '

of the Agreed Resolution. Those in favor say 'aye',' ' T 1 ! f ' 'aye . Opposed no . The aye s have it. The motion

carries. The Agreed Resolution is adopted. Coaference

Committee Reports on page l3, House Bill 524. Representati e

Ruff? Representative Huff in the chamber? 0ut of the

record. House Btll 925, Representative Skinner? Represent

ative Skinner. You don't want that one called, Conference

Committee Report? House Bill 24107 Representative

Totten. You want to'go on Conference Committee Report on

2410? 0ut of the record. Same thing for 2411, I presume.

How about Senate Bill 185? Representative .Getty on the

floor? Senate Bill 1150 , Representative Dawson on the

floor? You want to go with 1150, Conference Committee

Report? 0ut of the record. Is there anybody in the

chamber that has a Bill on Thtrd iehdiag that they would

like to have cqlled? Anyone on..''. Anyone on Thi/d...

Representative Ewing.n ' ' '

speaker Redmond: ''What 'is it?''

Ewing: fdlîm looking for it.''

speaker Redmond: nWhat page?''

Ewing: ''Ifm lookfng for it.'l

Speaker Redmond: HHouse Bill 2351? Doesn't look like we hav'e

it on the Calendar. Wait a minute. Somebody says page

two. Short Debate.''

Ewing: ''Tbat:'is right.''

speaker Redmond: ''Oh yeah. We called that before and the

Sponsor wasn't oa the floor. 2351. House Bills,

Third Readingy Short Debate.''

Ewing: MMr. Speàker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this

xrx-'yN G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y. , k;jps . 4 - 8 - 8 c. .. - !- svwm. oe Iuuj-ols1

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Bfll was brought up last week and then after some

discussion was taken back to Second Reading and anlAmendm

ment was put on vhich was agreed to by Representative

Yourell and this merely exempts those changes in co- depart

ment jobs from being taken through'the administrative

procedure process. It's to help the Department of Personn 1

to be able to make sae ; changes in job classification

without going through the administrative procedureuprocess

It's al'so designed to keep that process from being bogged

down in the more than 1500 changes that take place each

year in this department. I believe that it's completely

agreed to now aad I would be glad to aaswer any questions

if there are any people who don't understandmf'

eaker Redmond: l'Any discussion? Representatfve Lechowicz. ''

echowicz: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, Jusc to refresh the memory of

the House, when this Bill was up before us last week,

Represeatative Yourell pointed out tha fact that what

this would do would prevent the Department of Personnel

to come under the jurisdiction of the Administrative

Procedure Act' and if there's one department' that should

be controlled and be reviewed, especially with the number

of changes that they do during a monthly process, should'

jbe tbe Department of Personnel. I n shocked that thïs

Centleman would introduce this type of legislation Nàsed

upon the recent Supreme Court ruling . If anythiag should

be reviewed it sbould be the Department o f Persoanel . I

s t ron g1y rec ommend a ' no ' vo te . ''

eaker Redmond : ''Representative Ewing . ''P

wing : ''Mr . Speaker , I ' m shocked that the 1as t speaker didn ' t

know tba t Bus Yourell noQ approves 'this Bill . If he had

been 1is tening to the deb ate and if there ' s any quest ion

we # 11 j us t t ake i t o u E o f th e re co r d and wai t . Wh o

cares ehat the s tate spends i ts 'money on useles s proces s ? .1

Speaker Redmond : ''You w'ant i t out o f the record ? 0ut o f the

record . Anybody *1 se have a aoncont rovers ial ma t ter ?

GEN ERA L ASSEM BLYSY A.T E QF 1 uuk N o1l

H Q kl s E Q F R E P R e 5 E - T A. T l V t S

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Representative Lechowicz. How much do you need, ten

mfnut/s, Mr. clerk? Five mfnutes.''

echowicz: HMr. Speakerytl now move that the House stand

adjourned till tomorrow mornfag...'f

peaker Redmond; ''Five miautes..'f

echovfcz: MAt what tfme?''

peaker Rediond: HEleven o'clock.l'

echovfcz: 'fTfl1 eleven o'clock tomorrov mornïng, givfng ehe

Clerk five minutes...ftve minutes for apperfunctory

Sessfoa.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ewing.''

Vfng) HWe1l, I'm just shocked that that speaker would

bring up that kind of a motion at this time and'l would

oppose ft and I thlnk we should stay here.''

'echovicz: ''Fine, Mr. Speaker. Letls take aoRoll Call. He

can seay in here al1 by himself.''

Speaker Redmond: HThe question's on the Gentlemanls motion.

Representative Ewing.''

wing: ''Maybe I didn't hear vhat be said. Maybe I doa't under-

stand his motion.'f

echuwicz; ''Perfunctory Sesston for five ninutes. Wefll be

adjourced till eleven o'clock tomorrow morning.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Those in favor of the motion indicate by

saying 'ayef 'aye'. opposed 'no'. The 'aye's bave it.

The motion carried. After five minut#s peffunct, the Hous

stands ad/ourned till eleven olclock tomorrow.. We didnlt

waste tonight. We read the Committee Reports and we

saved a day on that so...''

Clerk O'Brien: HCommittee Report; Representative Matijevich,

Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I to which

the following Bills vere referred: action taked April

8th, 1980, report'the same back with the following

recommedations; 'Do passf .House Bills 3030, 3031, 3032,

3033, and 3042. #Do pass as amended? House Bills 2924,

3Q34, 3037, and 3040. Introduction and Ftrst Reading

.x.v7'Nx%.'s G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y

'' ' X.<QS1>P7 ' 't ï s v . v a: o e , u u I .. o I sJ * . .?j.g . 4 .g .g (). . ; .- ;ï..' W= Hotls? OF REPRESENTATIVE/

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of Bïlls; House Bi1l 3379, Winchester-Ralph Dunn, a 3111

for an Act making appropriation to the State Comptroller.

First Reading of che Bi11. Bouse bill 3380, Winchester-

Ralph Dunn, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the

Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bi11.

House Bill 3381, Mcpike, a Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Workers Compensation Act. First Reading

of the Bill. House B111 3382, Flinn, a Bill for an Act

to amend Sections of the Administrative Review Act. First

Reading of the Btll. House bill 3383, Polk, a Bill for

aa Act to amend Sections of the Mental Hea1th and

Developmental Disabilfty Code. First Readfng of the

Bi11. House Bill 3384, Johnson, a Bill for an Act to

amend Sections of an Act to revise the 1aw in relation

to Clerks of Courts. First Reading of the Bill. House

Btll 3385, Macdonald, a Bill for an Act in relatioa to

intergovernmental joint action agencies amending tbe

Intergovernmental Cooperation Act approved October 1, 1973

as amended. First Reading of the Bill. No further

business. The House now stands adjourned.'l

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