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March 3rd, 2012, 08:31 PM #441
KillerZavataralso known as Wally
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Originally Posted by aquaticko I really don't know why the CTBUH set the standard for megatall at >600m. Even now, there are exceptionally few towersaround the world that fit this definition, either in construction or the planning stages. I really think that >500m would'vebeen a more useful height.
i think the reason they chose 600m is because it is exactly twice as tall as a supertall and by that it makes sense and is easy tocompare. In 10 years 600m buildings may be like 500m buildings are now, so it will still become a useful height for comparison withtime and is already in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by aquaticko Anyway, I'm just glad to hear that this project isn't dead. Especially because the height drop means that the tower will beaccompanied by two 50-floor buildings (I'd wager probably around 250m each), it won't stick out like quite the ridiculouslysore thumb it would have otherwise.
i just hope that these two buildings will nicely fit with the design of the main tower. hopefully the whole design won't change muchwith the decrease of the height and maybe the smaller towers will also be designed by the same architects that would at least makethe whole thing look great i guess. And yeah all these giant projects in seoul are far from each other and this one isn't surrounded
by already existing skyscrapers, which makes it quite cool that 50fl buildings are supposed to rise with it.
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Originally Posted by aquaticko And I also am curious to see how that atrium design turns out. Can you imagine looking straight up and seeing a 40-floorhole in the middle of the building ?
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March 4th,2012, 11:51 AM
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maybe slightly off topic but here we go:
atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
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atrium at Jin Mao (115m - 31 floors):image hosted on flickr
I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there.__________________PolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/C
March 4th, 2012, 03:21 PM #443
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wow i never knew about them, this is just amazing
other big atrium: The Grand Doubletree__________________
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March 4th,2012, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by patrykus maybe slightly off topic but here we go:
atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
atrium at Jin Mao (115m - 31 floors):image hosted on flickr
I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there.
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March 4th, 2012, 04:17 PM #445
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Well guys at Som's seems to disagree on that one. But who are they? Just an architect studio with almost century of experience . Btw dmc tower design was proposed by som the very same who designed Jin Mao so its definitively not some crazy concept ideawith this super large atrium. They have experience in this stuff __________________PolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/C
March 5th, 2012, 03:12 PM #446
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1. 5 years ago seoul goverment sold out own land for "to built Seoul land mark tower in sangamdong"
2. Daewoo Inc announce blueprint for 133 floors 630m.
3. World financial crisis hit the project.
4. Daewoo Inc suggested modified plan(reduce height 77floor + two 50floors)Rejected by Seoul
At the moment Daewoo Inc suggected new plan "100floors + two 50floors OR 103floors + one ?floors"__________________STOP DEVELOPING BORACAY ISLAND! | Protect BORACAY beach and sea.
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March 5th, 2012,
06:31 PM #447
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In comparison with Burj Al Arab, these ain't so tall, but the buildings are significant.
Lloyd's Building1978 - 1986LondonRichard Rogers Partnership
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Lloyds building atrium by alex robertson
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Looking up inside Lloyd's of London by bobaliciouslondon
Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank Headquarters1979-1986Hong KongFoster and Partners
Credit: Foster and Partners
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Untitled by stefan irvine
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Spaceship portal by jonolist
Century Tower1987-1991Tokyo
Foster and PartnersThe atrium is divided in the middle by the glass panels due to the fire regulations.
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Century Tower #4 by guen-k
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Century Tower #3 by guen-k
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Deutsche Bank Place1997-2005SydneyFoster and Partners
Richard Glover for Architecture Media
Dentsu Building1998-2002TokyoJean Nouvel
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1 Bligh Street2009-2011SydneyIngenhoven ArchitectsArchitectus
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Shinjuku Sumitomo Building1971-1974TokyoNikken Sekkei
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Shinjuku - Shinjuku Sumitomo Building by tenkai2002
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Shinjuku Sumitomo Building, Tokyo by stephenk1977
And some other examples...
Public housing in Hong Kong.
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Square building in blue tone, make science fiction feeling by cozyta
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circle public house in hongkong by cozyta
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Vertigo by Mingshi.jenny
March 5th, 2012, 06:39 PM #448
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Wow, that's some nice selection right there Especially the last one's from Tokyo and Hong Kong rules __________________PolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/CPolishTowersU/C
March 5th, 2012, 07:45 PM #449
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Atlanta: http://youtu.be/bqmENsnYSIQ
http://youtu.be/ug8OBqUSBPU
That is only 1/2 the atrium! It's a mirror image on the other side.
March 7th, 2012, 01:29 PM #450
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http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm...30717470880529
Daily Seoul Light Tower newsSeoul light In the maze
- Actually "daewoo construction" request modified plan which is reduced tower's height to korea national land & transportationdeparment's Mediation committee.
-Request reduced height from 133fl to 100fl+two 50fl.Increase residence rate from 20% to 50%
Mediation between the two sides is fail.
-finally rejected by "Seoul Goverment"Seoul refuse increased residence rate and reduce tower's height.
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March 7th, 2012, 01:38 PM #451
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100 floors will hardly be 640m, even with huge spire. I suspect 550ish height.
March 7th, 2012, 01:41 PM #452
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these are quite good news, i hope they stay with the 640m design __________________
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March 14th, 2012, 01:07 PM #453
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http://blog.naver.com/dbehdqls0208?R...ogNo=144507834Old rendering atrium
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Originally Posted by KillerZavatar these are quite good news, i hope they stay with the 640m design
possible
http://news.nate.com/view/20120314n11856
Daily News-Seoul stick to "133 Floors 640m"-Seoul reject another suggestion which daewoo's 103floor 30% residence/10% officetel-"That site is for "Landmark constrution" so floor reduce is "impossible"(said seoul concerns)__________________STOP DEVELOPING BORACAY ISLAND! | Protect BORACAY beach and sea.
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March 14th, 2012, 01:12 PM #454
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"That site is for "Landmark constrution" so floor reduce is "impossible"
Of course it is! Seoul on the rise! Go go go! Great news inno!!
March 14th, 2012, 01:29 PM #455
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it is amazing that they want to stay with the original tall design, but what i am afraid of is that it results in a stalemate between themajor and the government and the project never gets a go, but right now it is not looking too bad. __________________
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March 14th, 2012, 03:42 PM #456
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Main Developers like reduction of development.. such like Incheon Tower development.....because they will buy site conveniently....
March 14th, 2012, 03:49 PM #457
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maybe this thread must change title. from 133 to 103 floor.and Incheon Tower's floor will be reduced From Recent News(2012.3.13)
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March 14th, 2012, 04:22 PM #458
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Originally Posted by korea2002 maybe this thread must change title. from 133 to 103 floor.and Incheon Tower's floor will be reduced From Recent News(2012.3.13)
i wouldn't change the title as long there is still fighting over the developers. i mean inno just posted that the 103fl plan wasrejected. As long we have chaotic things with parties saying this and that and going back to previous statements i think we shouldjust let the title until we hear what final solution they came up with __________________
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March 15th, 2012, 05:22 PM #459
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Originally Posted by KillerZavatar i wouldn't change the title as long there is still fighting over the developers. i mean inno just posted that the 103fl plan wasrejected. As long we have chaotic things with parties saying this and that and going back to previous statements i think weshould just let the title until we hear what final solution they came up with
The thread title should have been 200 + floor tall landmark tower to begin with. That way, we know at lease by now we may have a133 land mark, even after accepting their greedy chicken shit floor reduction proposal. Seoul gov must stick with no floor reductionpolicy for this project. Thank you.
April 6th, 2012, 12:44 PM #460
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http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?...aid=0002055398
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At last Seoul lite overcome crisis.break ground deadline until 31/May/2012Today talk between seoulite Inc with seoul goverment.Seoullite 103 floorsSeoul goverment 133 floors
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