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RADIO SCIENCE Journal of Research NBS/USNC-URSI Vol. 68D, No. 12, Decembe r 1964 Reply to the "Remarks by Donald H. Menzel With Reference to Bailey's Comments on Solar Electric Fields/ ll v. A. Bailey De partment of Physics, University of Sydney, Sydney, Au stralia 1. Introduction Sin ce Pr ofessor } VI enz el's "Remarks" were pub- lished with out my prior kn owledge, it was impossible for m e to reply t o them in the pr oper pl ace, namely, in th e same NB S T echni cal No te. I am therefore grateful to the Editor of "Radio Science" for pennittin g me thi s oppor t unit y to di scuss 1ife nz el's "Rema rks." As I do not expect that these "Rema rks" will be reprodu ce d here in t oto , I shall fir st end ea vor to sum- marize th em clearly. Thi s task is made somewh at difficult by reason of Men zel's form of pr esent a ti on. 2. Summary of Menzel's "Rema rks" Th ese are set ou t in six par agra phs, n early as fol- lows: Par agra ph 1. "Bail ey has p ost ul ate d th e existen ce of a large negn,tive elec tri c charge on the s un and refers to app ar ent experimental verifi cation of his hyp ot h esis." Paragra phs 2 and 3. "I co mpl etely di sagr ee wi th Pr ofessor Bail ey." 1Ienllel then uses orthodox argu- m en ts in an at t em pt to p rove th at th e s un 's s urf ace p oten ti, tl cann ot exceed 2000 V if positive or 1.08 V if negn,tive. Pa ragr a ph 4. " Th ese p otentials are many orders of magni t Ud e smaller th an those p ost ulat ed by B ail ey , 10 17 V or higher. No process ... co uld possibl y reconcile this disagre em ent ." Par agra ph 5. "Bailey has based his conclusion on the pos tul ate th at cosmi c rays energies occasionally a ttain th e fi gur e of 10 17 elec tron volt s. But if cosmi c r ays ac tu ally deri ved th ese ener gi es by falling through a solar elec tri c fi eld , th ey would be highl y direc ti onal. One concludes th at the most energetic cosmi c r ays do not de ri ve from solar phenom ena." P amgra ph 6. H er e M en zel ap parently tri es t o argue that the m agn et ic fi elds meas ur ed by " th e s pa ce pr ob es t h at Bail ey refers to" ca nn ot be " th e result of a r otating charged sun, " but must be du e only to "hi gh elec tri c cun ents" in th e sun which arc "galvanic in char actcr. " 1 Published in NBS Tech ni ca l Note No. 211 ,3 ,61. Apr. 19, 1 964 . 3. Comments on Menzel 's " Remarks ll Th e "experiment al verification ," r eferr ed to in M en zel' s par agra ph 1, s tri ctly a ppli es onl y to th e thr ee predictions which arose from th e unorth odox hyp othesis t ha t the s un carri es a large negativ e elec- t ri c charge. Also, th er e has not ye t been published any qu a nti ta tive orthoclox theory whi ch accounts for the same pr edicted phenomena. H en ce the un- orthodox hyp othesis must hold th e fi eld un til a be t- ter one can be found. In his par agra phs 2, 3, and 4, M enz el b ases his argument s solely on ort hodox id eas. Thi s is equiv rt - lent to saying that tbe un orthodox hyp ot hesis is wl' ong beca llse it is n ot orthodox. M en zel forge ts th at nearl y all of the flll1 damen tal theories in phys ics a nd astronomy when fi rst propound ed h ave cl ashed with the C UlTen t orthodox th eories. E xampl es ar e Ne wton 's Th eo ry of Gravi tation , Huyghen 's Th eory of Light, M a,,:well's Th eory of the Elect r om ag net ic Fi eld , Pl rt nck 's Qu an t um Th eory, and Ein stein 's Th cory of Rel ativit y. In llis paragra ph 5, 1f enzel 's asser tion, "if cosmic r ays ac tu ally deri ved these energies by falli ng t hl" ough a solar electri c fi eld, th ey would be hi ghly dircc- tional ," is in gen eral qui te wron g, for th e m ost en er getic cosmi c r ay nuclei come fr om very di stant regions where th ey possess velocities with ran dom componen ts tr ansverse to th e dir ec ti on of the sun. These componen ts ari se from encounters with distant fi elds or mat ter , includin g o ther ch arge d stars. Hence, lik e comets, these nuclei would only m rely fall r adially towa rds th e s un (as M enzel asserts) and, in gene ral , would be di st ribut ed isotl'opi cally relative to the earth. 2 The view expressed in hi s par agr ap h 6, th at t he ma gnetic fi elds m eas UTed by the space pr obes are entir ely due to el ec tri c currents in the S Ull , is un- convincin g since it is not s upp orted by a single quantitative exam ple. On the con t rar y, we ca n show that if a solar curr ent i in the equ at orial plane is chosen s ll ch th at its eq uiv alent magnetic moment vect or NI genera tes, n ear th e ea rth's orbit, the 2 or course the theor y of th eir or hit s would have to be re lat ivist ic, so the;e or bits would be more comp licated t han e ll ipses, pa rabolas, or hyperbolas. 1325

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RADIO SCIENCE Journal of Research NBS/USNC-URSI Vol. 68D, No. 12, December 1964

Reply to the "Remarks by Donald H. Menzel With Reference to Bailey's Comments on Solar Electric Fields/ll

v. A. Bailey

Department of Physics, University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia

1. Introduction

Since Professor }VIenzel 's "R em arks" were pub­lished without m y prior knowledge, it was impossible for m e to reply t o them in the proper place, nam ely, in the same NBS T echni cal No te. I am therefore grateful to the Editor of "Radio Science" for pennitting me this opportunity t o discuss 1ifenzel's "R emarks."

As I do not expect that these "R emarks" will be r eproduced here in toto, I shall first end eavor to sum­marize them clearly. This task is m ade somewhat difficult by r eason of M en zel 's form of presenta tion .

2. Summary of Menzel' s "Remarks"

These are set ou t in six paragraphs, nearly as fol­lows:

Paragraph 1. "B ailey has postulated the exis tence of a large negn,tive electric charge on the sun and refers to apparent experimen t al verification of his hypothesis."

Paragraphs 2 and 3. " I completely disagree wi th Professor Bailey." 1Ienllel then uses orthodox argu­m en ts in an at tempt to prove that the sun's surface poten ti,tl cannot exceed 2000 V if positive or 1.08 V if negn,tive.

P aragraph 4. " These poten tials ar e many orders of m agnitUde smaller than those postulated by B ailey, 1017 V or higher. N o process ... could possibly r econcile this disagreem ent."

P ar agraph 5. "B ailey has based his conclusion on the postulate that cosmic r ays energies occasionally attain the figure of 1017 electron volts. But if cosmic rays ac tually derived these energies by falling through a solar electric field, they would be highly directional. One concludes tha t t he most energetic cosmic r ays do no t derive from solar phenom ena."

P amgraph 6. H er e M enzel apparen tly tries t o argue that the m agnetic fields measured by " the space probes t hat B ailey r efers to" cannot be " the r esult of a rotatin g charged sun , "but m ust be due only to "high electric cunents" in the sun which arc "galvanic in charactcr. "

1 P ublished in NBS Techni ca l Note No. 211, 3 ,61. Apr. 19, 1964 .

3 . Comments on Menzel's "Remarksll

The "experimental verification ," r eferred to in M en zel's paragraph 1, strictly applies only to the three predictions which arose from the unorthodox hypothesis that the sun carries a large negative elec­tric charge . Also, there has no t ye t been published any quantitative orthoclox theory which accounts for the same predicted phenom ena. H ence the un­orthodox hypothesis must hold the fi eld un til a bet­ter one can be found .

In his paragraphs 2, 3, and 4, M enzel b ases his arguments solely on or thodox ideas. This is equivrt­len t to saying th at tbe unor t hodox hypothesis is wl'ong beca llse i t is not or thodox. M en zel forge ts that nearly all of t he flll1dam ental theori es in physics and astronomy when first propound ed have clashed with the CUlTen t orthodox t heories. E xamples are Newton 's Theory of Gravitation , Huyghen 's Theory of Light, M a,,:well 's Theory of the Electrom agnetic Field, Plrtnck 's Qu an tum Theory, and Einstein 's Thcory of R elativity .

In llis paragraph 5, 1fenzel's asser tion , "if cosmic r ays ac tually derived th ese en ergies by falling thl"ough a solar electric field, they would be highly dir cc­tion al," is in general qui te wrong, for the most energetic cosmic r ay nuclei com e from very distan t r egions where they possess velocities wi th ran dom compon en ts transverse to the direction of the sun. These componen ts arise from encoun t ers wi th distant fields or mat ter, including other charged stars. Hence, like comets, these nuclei would only m rely fall r adially towards the sun (as M en zel asserts) and , in general, would be distributed isotl'opically relative to the earth. 2

The view expressed in his paragraph 6, tha t the magnetic fi elds m easUTed by the space probes are entirely due to electric curren ts in th e SUll , is un­convincing sin ce it is not supported by a single quantitative example. On the con trary, we can show that if a solar current i in the equatorial plane is chosen s llch th at its equivalent magnetic momen t vector NI generates, near the eart h's orbit, the

2 or course the theor y of their orhits would h ave to be re lativistic, so the;e orbits would be more complicated t han e ll ipses, parabolas, or hyper bolas.

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quiet time magnetic field vector B i observed by Pioneer 5 [Bailey, 1963] then it would simultaneously generate near the sun's north pole a field vector Hp which (a) is about 300 or more times as large as the north polar field observed recently by H. D. B abcock and (b) opposes the direction of that observed field. These facts would seem to demon­strate that Menzel's view is untenable.

4. Conclusion

To avoid the t ime-wasting business of opposing orthodox and faulty arguments with more logical arguments based on the magnetic observations made by means of the four satelli tes, I refer the reader to a recently published, crucial, experiment method [Bailey, 1964] of determining the truth or falsehood of the unorthodox hypothesis.

This method involves the use of two neighboring but differently moving satellites, each carrying a mao·netometer. The theory of the method is en­tire1y orthodox, and consequently the conclusions derived by means of it should command universal assent.

5 . References Bailey, V . A. (Sept. 14, 1963), The interplanetary magnetic

field, Nature 199, 1029- 103l. Bailey, V. A. (Mar. 21, 1964), Thc sun's electrical charge,

Naturc 201, 1202- 1203 .

(Paper 68D1 2-437)

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