Reaction to plenary session Reaction to plenary session LIPW seminar GisenyiLIPW seminar Gisenyi

2020thth October 2006 October 2006

Donors’ & MINALOC’s views Donors’ & MINALOC’s views Opportunities LIPW (acc. to donors)Opportunities LIPW (acc. to donors)• Improved agricultural productionImproved agricultural production• Financial servicesFinancial services• Small-scale agro-processingSmall-scale agro-processing• Capacity buildingCapacity building

Opportunities LIPW (acc. to MINALOC)Opportunities LIPW (acc. to MINALOC)• DecentralisationDecentralisation• Improved coordination between programmesImproved coordination between programmes• Development of standardsDevelopment of standards• Need for new strategies and institutional setupNeed for new strategies and institutional setup• Incorporation private sectorIncorporation private sector• TrainingTraining• Further national LIPW policy development: how to Further national LIPW policy development: how to

go about it?go about it?

LIPW according to ILOLIPW according to ILO• ILO: Employment policies, investment ILO: Employment policies, investment

policies and structural poverty reduction policies and structural poverty reduction can be closely linkedcan be closely linked

• ILO: approaches:ILO: approaches:– Social dimension: short-term, urgencySocial dimension: short-term, urgency– Economical growth: favoured option, if Economical growth: favoured option, if

accompanied by instruments strengthening the accompanied by instruments strengthening the productive capacityproductive capacity

• ILO: for the same investment LIPW creates 2 ILO: for the same investment LIPW creates 2 to 5 times as much labourto 5 times as much labour

• LIPW – CIPW : a gliding scale, where to LIPW – CIPW : a gliding scale, where to position ourselves on the scale?position ourselves on the scale?

• When LIPW? Where technically possible When LIPW? Where technically possible and economically feasibleand economically feasible

• JK: ….. And environmentally sound !JK: ….. And environmentally sound !

LIPW according to involved ministries and LIPW according to involved ministries and decentralised authoritiesdecentralised authorities

• PSTA: available means < -- > ambitionsPSTA: available means < -- > ambitions• Tree planting, nursery management, mining Tree planting, nursery management, mining

JK: avoid example Namanya Salamabila DRCJK: avoid example Namanya Salamabila DRC• Management of rain water drainage Management of rain water drainage PPGE PPGE• Finances: JK: decentralised taxing ?Finances: JK: decentralised taxing ?• Gender: > 50% ♀ Gender: > 50% ♀ 54% ! 54% !• Youth: (>60%): JK: watch out ILO !Youth: (>60%): JK: watch out ILO !• Need for training centre and capacity Need for training centre and capacity

building: 5x mentionedbuilding: 5x mentioned• Business development skills and micro-Business development skills and micro-

enterprise developmententerprise development• LIPW wages in line with market ratesLIPW wages in line with market rates• Geographical extension / FERGeographical extension / FER

In the meantime, what In the meantime, what happens in Madagascar ?happens in Madagascar ?

• LIPW Training Centre: many hidden lessonsLIPW Training Centre: many hidden lessons• Training programme:Training programme:

– RoadsRoads– BuildingsBuildings– Urban developmentUrban development

• Technical standards & outreach = impressiveTechnical standards & outreach = impressive• JK: no agriculture JK: no agriculture ILO experience elsewhere?ILO experience elsewhere? Self-financing ?Self-financing ? Exchange visits ?Exchange visits ?

Field experiences LIPWField experiences LIPWHELPAGEHELPAGE::• Fishery sector: 600% on target ?Fishery sector: 600% on target ?• Is investment in radical terracing profitable, Is investment in radical terracing profitable,

(as compared to environmental costs of non (as compared to environmental costs of non intervention?) intervention?) many unsubstantiated many unsubstantiated assumptions !assumptions !

• Productivity levels unknown Productivity levels unknown accompanying measures to be in place accompanying measures to be in place

GAAGAA::• Emphasizes productive infrastructures (as a Emphasizes productive infrastructures (as a

starting pointstarting point) ) value addition value addition• Temporary benefit Temporary benefit long-term benefit long-term benefit• Emphasizes importance of training, Emphasizes importance of training,

networking, cadastral mapping networking, cadastral mapping

Field experiences LIPWField experiences LIPWPPGEPPGE• Impressive changesImpressive changes• Variable costs of labour: FRW 1,600/dayVariable costs of labour: FRW 1,600/day• BUT: obligatory savings, 6 months BUT: obligatory savings, 6 months

involvement involvement creation of « take-off fund » creation of « take-off fund »• Emphasizes: only work through sub-Emphasizes: only work through sub-

contractingcontractingPDL-HIMOPDL-HIMO• Elaboration, consulting, launch Elaboration, consulting, launch 3 years (?) 3 years (?)• Limited job-opportunities (?)Limited job-opportunities (?)• Need for « centralizing training & skill dev. »Need for « centralizing training & skill dev. »• Need for different institutional frameworkNeed for different institutional framework• Viabilisation / sustainability put into questionViabilisation / sustainability put into question• JK: MTE JK: MTE lessons learned ? lessons learned ?

Communalities and my perception Communalities and my perception (1/2)(1/2)

• HIMO < -- > HIEQ: gliding scaleHIMO < -- > HIEQ: gliding scale• Degree of HIMO, in function of:Degree of HIMO, in function of:

– Where technically possibleWhere technically possible– Where economically feasibleWhere economically feasible– Environmental sustainability a necessary Environmental sustainability a necessary

conditioncondition

• Distinction: private vs public sector Distinction: private vs public sector management of investmentsmanagement of investments

• Need for building up our learning capacity:Need for building up our learning capacity:– Impact monitoring, validation, scaling up to policy Impact monitoring, validation, scaling up to policy

level, need for donor « laboratory » (incl. training, level, need for donor « laboratory » (incl. training, see development of PSU), or do we pretend that see development of PSU), or do we pretend that we found the right answers to all these complex we found the right answers to all these complex problems ?problems ?

Communalities in perceptions Communalities in perceptions (2/2)(2/2)

OPEN QUESTIONSOPEN QUESTIONS• How to address common need for How to address common need for

training and capacity building training and capacity building – National/regional? National/regional? – State-managed/multi-partnership ? State-managed/multi-partnership ?

Responsibilties of each (state, private sector, Responsibilties of each (state, private sector, civil society)? Centralised management?civil society)? Centralised management?

– Feasibility for self-financing at mid-term?Feasibility for self-financing at mid-term?

• Is legal framework supportive? Is legal framework supportive? (environmental & land management (environmental & land management legislation, banking codes of conduct)legislation, banking codes of conduct)

• What procedure to follow to further What procedure to follow to further develop the national LIPW policy ?develop the national LIPW policy ?

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