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4.+. 8: //.53877. 53 Sam Binkley, Paddy Dolan, Stefanie Ernst &
Cas Wouters 2010 ISSN: 1832-5203 Foucault Studies, No. 8, pp.
53-77, February 2010 ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION The Planned and the
Unplanned: A Roundtable Discussion on the Legacies of Michel
Foucault and Norbert Elias Sam Binkley, Emerson College, Boston
Paddy Dolan, Dublin Institute of Technology Stefanie Ernst,
University of Hamburg Cas Wouters, University of Amsterdam Edited
by Sam Binkley, Emerson College, Boston IntroductionWhen one
considers the proximity of their concerns, it is perhaps surprising
that the
worksofNorbertEliasandMichelFoucaulthavenotbeenmoresystematically
comparedanddiscussed.However,thedifferentiationofdisciplinaryknowledge
(particularlytheboundarythatseparatesphilosophyfromsocialtheory),com-pounded
by parochialisms fostered by the cult of the intellectual, have
delayed this process far past its due.This conversation, which
began in 2008 at a conference on the works of Elias and Foucault at
the University of Hamburg, is, in this regard, an effort to make up
for lost time.Fashioned from hours of discussion recorded on an
afternoonattheUniversityofAmsterdaminJune2009,(enrichedandclarifiedby
theeditorandparticipantsinseveralroundsofpolishingand
revision),thediscus-sion that follows seeks to draw out conflicts
and convergences between the trajecto-ries of thought we know as
Eliasian and Foucauldian. The History of Interiority and the
Reification of Categories Stefanie Ernst: Perhaps a useful way to
begin our conversation is with an account of a small discovery I
made at the Deutsches Literaturarchiv Marbach, in Germany1 It
wasalettersentfromNorbertEliastoDieterClaessensconcerningFoucaultslast
1 The Deutsches Literaturarchiv (German Archive of Literature)
is a centre for the collection and
explorationofGermanliteraturefromtheageoftheEnlightenment.Ithousesthecomplete
worksofNorbertElias,administeredbytheNorbertEliasFoundation,Amsterdam.
http://www.dla-marbach.de/ Binkley, Dolan, Ernst & Wouters: The
Planned and the Unplanned 54
minutecancelationofanappearance,atEliassinvitation,ataconferencein
Bielefeld.In the letter, Elias reflects on recent news that the
reason for this
cancella-tionhadbeenFoucaultsfalteringhealth,leadingtohisdyingashorttimelater.Eliaswroteinhisletter,IwasverydisappointedthatFoucaultcouldnotcome.Much
tomyregretIhaveheardthathedied*,+muchtooearly
