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NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

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Page 1: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data

Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid

Scott Landolt and Cory WolffNCAR Research Applications Laboratory

Page 2: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

Projects

• Impacts on Current Icing Potential product– What: Determine the impact of TAMDAR icing reports

(positive and negative) on icing diagnoses– Why: Do results support FAA/NWS funding of

TAMDAR data stream?– Funded by: AIRDAT

• Description of icing data set– What: Compile “climo” of TAMDAR icing data using

RUC and CIP outputs – Why: Will help QC efforts – what are these reports,

are they consistent with expected icing conditions, are we seeing inconsistencies?

– Funded by: FAA

Page 3: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

Laser senses 0.020” ice accreted here

Yes: activates heating cycle to melt and start over again

No: no ice detected

Uncertain: Ttot >0C,

Tstat <0C(ice won’t freeze

onto probe)

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CIP impact: progress

• Converted TAMDAR data sets to pseudo PIREP NetCDF data

• Determined HRCIP run times for study

• Completed baseline verification using voice PIREPs and standard QAPDT methods

Page 5: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

CIP concept

LightningDeep Convection

Page 6: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

High-res (5 km) CIP

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PIREPs in CIP

• Used as a boosting factor for icing potential (along with RUC SLW and VV)

• Currently, only positive icing PIREPs are used: icepotfinal = icepotini(0.35*PIREPmap + .4*SLWmap + .25*VVmap)

severity = 1-8 scale (T=1, H=8, etc.),

PIREPmap = severity/8

and weigh by proximity in space and time

Need to determine how to use negative TAMDAR icing data – decrease potential

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CIP Comparison

• Three-way comparison– Baseline: no TAMDAR– Add TAMDAR positive icing reports– Add TAMDAR negative icing reports– Compare PODy, PODn, area and volume

covered

• What is the effect on the statistics? On the look and feel?

Page 9: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

TAMDAR Icing “Climo”

• Use ASCII files for location of positive icing reports

• Form climatology – time of day, location, by month, etc. Where is icing being reported?

• Use matching hourly 20-km RUC forecasts to pull info on temperatures, RH, condensate– Can use positive TAMDAR icing data to “verify” RUC

condensate fields

• Use matching CIP icing potential to check our expectations on icing – positive and negative

Page 10: NCAR Activities Using TAMDAR Icing Data Marcia K. Politovich, Jamie Braid Scott Landolt and Cory Wolff NCAR Research Applications Laboratory

Ice Accretion?

• New icing severity definitions are accretion-rate based– Updated CIP severity

• Accretion rate depends on object shape, airspeed, etc…

• We’re interested in working with AIRDAT on this

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More ideas?