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  • MaintenanceTaskGroupMeetingsMeetings

    March 6 2012March6,2012And

    March14,2012

    PaulCongdon

  • March 14 AgendaMarch14Agenda Patents QCor2BallotResolution Tony Reviewdetailedresponsesfromphoneconferencetobe

    incorporated into next draft of QCor2incorporatedintonextdraftofQ Cor 2 Anoopproposedtextfor0021 SteveHaddockproposalfor0025 Agreement on path for 0027Agreementonpathfor0027 BenMackCraneproposedtextfor0029

    DocumentresolutiontoitemsbeingleftforfutureworkItems 0023 and 0026 Items0023and0026

    NewMaintenanceItem0031fromPanos

  • March 6 AgendaMarch6Agenda

    PatentsPatents StatusUpdate

    i i NewMaintenanceitems ExistingMaintenanceitems

  • Important StatusImportantStatus

    This is Pauls last IEEE 802 1 meeting so newThisisPaul slastIEEE802.1meeting,sonewViceChairordelegatewillneedtrainingsoonafter or (preferably) during the Plenaryafteror(preferably)duringthePlenary

    TransitionPlanW lk th h d t d i l i HI Walkthroughdocumentedprocessinxls inHI

    DemonstratehowtogenerateWebpagesll b l bl h l Willbeavailabletohelpastimegoeson

  • StatusUpdate 6newmaintenanceitemsreceivedsinceJanuary Qbg inSponsorBallotandQCor2TaskGroupBallotcomplete

  • NEWMAINTENANCE ITEMSNEWMAINTENANCEITEMS

  • MaintenanceItem 0023Priority and Drop eligible parameters from BSI MEP/MIPPriorityandDrop_eligible parametersfromBSIMEP/MIP

    Submission:MaartenVissers Jan2012 Issues:

    Thepriorityanddrop_eligible paramters forCBPsISSaresupposedtobefromtheBSI,nottheBVLANvalueswhenCBPcontainsclause6.18BSIMEP/MIPfunctions.

    ProposedResolution: Modify6.11.2togetIPCPandIDEIparameters StatehowparametersareobtainedinsteadofindicatingtheyarethesameastheEISS

    Discussion Thegeneralbeliefisthatthescopeofchangesrequiredtoaddressthisitemarebeyond

    thecurrentscopevehiclesthatareopen.Anychangesherewouldbeeffectivelyundoingpreviousagreementsandthusthisitemwillbeleftinthereceivedstateforconsiderationinafuturerevision.Thisitemisrelatedto0026aswellwithsimilarresolution.Themaintenanceitemisdescribingprocessesoccurringonegress.Clause6.11isspecificallyreplacing6.9whenaCBPisbeingused,sowherequeuingoccursshouldbemoreobvious.TheinsertionofMIP/MEPshimsinthearchitecturecreatedtheneedtospecifywherethequeuesmightbeplacedandasaresult,wherepriorityanddrop_eligible comefromisinconsistentwhenaCBPisinplaceandwhennot.Theproposedresolutionsdonothelpthissituationanditisdesiredtohavemoreimplementationfreedom.

  • MaintenanceItem 0024Typosin6.1.4and6.1.6

    Submission: John Messenger Jan 2012Submission:JohnMessenger Jan2012 Issues:

    S i t d i O P i tT P i tMAC i 6 1 4 SpaceinsertedinOperPointToPointMAC in6.1.4 Identificationmissspelledin6.1.6

    ProposedResolution: Fix

    Discussion ProposefornextpassofQCor2p p Q

  • MaintenanceItem 0025Table for learned BMAC addresses in PIPTableforlearnedB MACaddressesinPIP

    Submission:MaartenVissers Feb2012 Issues:

    UseoftheenableConnetionIdentifier parameterimpliesthatthePIPmustholdatableofp paddressesreferencedbytheconnection_identifier,butnosuchtableisdescribedanywhereinthetext.

    ProposedResolution:S if i 6 10 th t th PIP t i t bl d id ifi d t il d i i t t Specifyin6.10thatthePIPcontainsatableandprovidespecificsdetailedinmaintenancerequest

    Specifyin6.10.1thatalearningprocessstoresthevalues Specifyin6.10.2thatthetableisusedtofindtheBDAvalue

    DiscussionDiscussion Howtheconnection_identifier valueisusedtoobtaintheBMACaddressisreally

    implementationspecific.Therewasaspecificcommentduringthedevelopmentofthistomakesuretheconnection_identifier wasanindirectreferencetotheactualMACaddressandnotexplicit This also allows the connection identifier to contain other values for other port typesexplicit.Thisalsoallowstheconnection_identifier tocontainothervaluesforotherporttypes(e.g.PortExtension).TherewasandisastrongdesiretoNOThavealearning/ageingfunctionforthiscapability,sonoadditionaltableisrequired.Giventhis,wereallydonthaveaproblemhere,butaclarificationcouldbehelpfulandtwoproposalsareonthetable;Maketheconnection identifier explicitly a MAC address for CBPs or insert a note that indicates this isconnection_identifier explicitlyaMACaddressforCBPsorinsertanotethatindicatesthisisimplementationspecificandinthecaseofa1:1mappingdoesnotrequireanylearning/ageingandcanbestoredintheexistingFDB.SteveHaddockwillproposetextforeitheroptionandthiswillbediscussedattheplenary.

  • MaintenanceItem 0026Flow Classification and Queuing for CBPFlowClassificationandQueuingforCBP

    Submission:MaartenVissers Feb2012 Issues: Issues:

    Thereisnospecificationofwhere8.6.5and8.6.6functionsarelocatedinaCBP.

    ProposedResolution: Add this specification Assume 8 6 6 function is outside the BVLAN area Assume 8 6 5 Addthisspecification.Assume8.6.6functionisoutsidetheBVLANarea.Assume8.6.5

    functionisbetweenBSIdownMIPandBSIupMIP.

    Discussion Thegeneralbeliefisthatthescopeofchangesrequiredtoaddressthisitemarebeyondg p g q y

    thecurrentscopevehiclesthatareopen.Anychangesherewouldbeeffectivelyundoingpreviousagreementsandthusthisitemwillbeleftinthereceivedstateforconsiderationinafuturerevision.Thisitemisrelatedto0023aswellwithsimilarresolution.Thelocationofthequeuingfunctions(8.6.6)aredocumentedandareaboveq g ( )the6.11functions.Thelocationofflowclassification(8.6.5)ismoretricky.Itwasspecificallyleftoutoffigure222becauseitisimpossibletoaccuratelydepictitinthearchitecture.Theflowclassifiersareingressfilters,buthaveimplicationsonfeaturesthatdependontheresultoffunctionsafterrelay.OnepossibilityistocarryinformationfromtheingressflowclassifieracrosstheEISStoegress.TheFigure222pinsdownwherequeuingisdoneandcreatesproblemsforimplementationsandperhapsshouldberemovedentirely.Restructuringthedocumenttodepictthisisnottrivial.

  • MaintenanceItem 0027EndofLLDPDUTLVerrorhandling

    Submission:PaulCongdon Feb2012 Issues:

    TextisunclearhowtohandleerrorcasesaroundtheEndofLLDPDUTLV.ItisamandatoryTLV,butweappeartoacceptthePDUifitisntpresent.

    ProposedResolution:p Twochoices:alwaysdiscardthePDUiftheTLVisnotpresent,orupdateallthe

    places(6.6.1,9.2.7.7.2)wherewedescribecriteriafordiscardingtheframe. Proposedresolutioninmaintenancerequestassumeswetrytosalvagethe

    PDU whenever possible.PDUwheneverpossible. Discussion

    Groupdiscussedchoicestoresolvethis.OneeasywayistomaketheTLVoptionalinsteadofmandatory.Italreadyiseffectivelyoptionalsinceitisntvalidated on receipt though we stress it must be present on transmit Thevalidatedonreceipt,thoughwestressitmustbepresentontransmit.Theotheroptionistoclearlydocumentthecurrentsituationwhichistheintentoftheproposedresolutioninthemaintenanceitem.Tobediscussedwithabroaderaudienceattheplenary.

  • MaintenanceItem 0029MissingTComponentcreationtextandennumeration

    Submission:BenMackCrane Feb2012 Issues:

    TComponentcreationanditsenumerationintheMIBwereneveradded.

    ProposedResolution: Addclause17.5.2.xtodescribeTComponentcreation Add enumeration in MIB.AddenumerationinMIB.

    Discussion ProposeinclusiontonextdraftofQCor2.Thereis,however,a

    ripple effect as there is no text on how to create a TComponentrippleeffectasthereisnotextonhowtocreateaT Componentportaswell.BenwillproposesometextforTonytoreviewattheplenaryandtoincorporateintothenextdraft.

  • MaintenanceItem 0031TypoonMA_UNITDATA.x in6.1.1

    Submission: Panagiotis Saltsidis March 2012Submission:Panagiotis Saltsidis March2012 Issues:

    M UNITDATA h ld b MA UNITDATA i M_UNITDATA.x shouldbeMA_UNITDATA.x in6.1.1

    P d R l ti ProposedResolution: Fixit

    Discussion ProposeinclusiontonextdraftofQCor2

  • EXISTING MAINTENANCE ITEMSEXISTINGMAINTENANCEITEMS

  • MaintenanceItem 0003Inconsistent VID for LBR FramesInconsistentVIDforLBRFrames

    Submission:SteveHaddock March2011 Issues:Issues:

    Multiplechoicesforselectingvlan_identifier NonnormativelanguageusedtodescribeVIDselection Normativetextfor20.28.2isforPBBTEonlyy Priorityanddropeligibilitydeterminationalsonotspecified. NomanagedobjectstosetPrimaryVIDforMIP

    LatestStatus:Balloting SteveHaddocktointroduceaballotcommentatSanFrancisco

    meetingfor802.1aq Documentisstillinsponsorballot?Di i Discussion 802.1aqhascompletedSponsorBallot.Expectedtoapprovesending

    toRevCom inMarch

  • MaintenanceItem 0005MissingenableforLinkAggregationTLV

    Submission:PatThaler June2011 Issues:

    WhenLinkAgg TLVwasmovedinto802.1MIB,theenablewasnotincludedE i bl D 5 f lld V2Xd 1C fi P Vl T bl R f d ErrorintableD5forlldpV2Xdot1ConfigPortVlanTable.ReferenceandMIBtextdontagree

    MissingsecurityconsiderationsinD.4.4forCongestionNotification Latest Status: Ready for BallotLatestStatus:ReadyforBallot

    Waitingforarevisionof802.1AXtofix.PARagreedtobemodified Newmaintenanceitem0009submittedtoaddresssendingLLDPon

    physicallinks Discussion

    AXRevisintaskgroupballot.AcommenttoresolvethishasbeensubmittedbyPatThaler.Subsequentresolutionwillbehandledinthetask grouptaskgroup.

  • MaintenanceItem 0006Corrigendumitemsfor.1AS

    Submission:GeoffGarner June2011 Issues:

    VariousA ti l b i k d t TG it ActivelybeingworkedataTGitem

    LatestStatus:ReadyforBallot WaitingforABCorrigendumballotg g

    Discussion InitialofficialdraftofASCor1hasbeenproducedbutnoballot run yet AVB TG is keeping track of the bugs thatballotrunyet.AVBTGiskeepingtrackofthebugsthatneedfixinginASCor1.Iftheycomeacrossanissuethattheywouldliketosaveforlater,theywillneedtofileamaintenanceitemtotrackit.

  • MaintenanceItem 0007incorrectoperPointToPointMAC references

    Submission: Craig Gunther August 2011Submission:CraigGunther August2011 Issues:

    When 802.1ak was rolled into 802.1Q it containedWhen802.1akwasrolledinto802.1Qitcontainedincorrectreferencestoclause6.4.3foroperPointToPointMAC.Theyshouldbe6.6.3.

    L S ll i LatestStatus:Balloting IncludedinQbg SponsorBallotDi i Discussion: NocommentsagainstthisinQbg inrecirc.Expectedto closetoclose

  • MaintenanceItem 0008MVRPcutandpasteerrors

    Submission: Craig Gunther August 2011Submission:CraigGunther August2011 Issues:

    MVPR1 and MVPR2 PICs items were pasted from MVPR1andMVPR2PICsitemswerepastedfromMMRPitemsandremainincorrect

    Latest Status: BallotingLatestStatus:Balloting IncludedinQbg SponsorBallot

    DiscussionDiscussion NocommentsagainstthisinQbg inrecirc.Expectedtoclosep

  • MaintenanceItem 0009DisambiguatingLLDPoverLinkAggregations

    Submission:JeffreyLynch September2011 Issues:

    ItisunclearhowLLDPshouldoperateoveranaggregation ItiscurrentlynotpossibletodetermineatthereceiveriftheLLDPframesweresent

    from a peer at the physical link or at the aggregatefromapeeratthephysicallinkorattheaggregate

    LatestStatus:Received DiscussedatNanjingInterimandatAtlantaPlenary

    http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2011/maintlynchLLDPoverLAG0920p g p yv1.pdf

    Wedesiretohavetheabilitytosend/receiveatthephysicallayer canbedoneinAXbq. AgreedtoworkoutthetechnicaldetailsinAXbq preferaTPMRtypeYtosend/receive

    P f d t d fi TLV bit th dif i i ti TLV f t it PreferredtodefinenewTLVsornewbits,thusmodifyingexistingTLVs prefertowaitforAXrevisiontofixMIBsandTLVs

    WaitingforAXRevtoaddress.StatusofAXRev?

    DiscussionDiscussion TobediscussedaspartofAXRev.PatThalerhasincorporateacommentagainstthe

    currenttaskgroupballot,sosubsequentresolutionwillbehandledthere.

  • MaintenanceItem 0010IncorrectAnnexreference

    Submission: Christian Boiger September 2011 Submission:ChristianBoiger September2011 Issues:

    A reference to Annex G in 6 11 4 should really be a AreferencetoAnnexGin6.11.4shouldreallybeareferencetoAnnexI

    Latest Status: Balloting LatestStatus:Balloting IncludedinQbg SponsorBallot

    Discussion Discussion Nocomments,andQbg willbegoingtoRevCom soon

  • MaintenanceItem 0011No recommended priority to traffic class mappings for creditNorecommendedprioritytotrafficclassmappingsforcredit

    basedshaperintable84

    Submission: Christian Boiger September 2011Submission:ChristianBoiger September2011 Issues:

    Text recommends classes 5 and 6 for SR classes A & B,Textrecommendsclasses5and6forSRclassesA&B,butshouldbe3and2.

    Tablereferencesarewrong ProposedResolution:

    BallotedinQCor2 Discussion

    UpdatedinQCor2d01tomatchpreviousmeetingconsensusconsensus

  • MaintenanceItem 0012MissingMEP/MHFiconsinfig262

    Submission: Steve Haddock September 2011Submission:SteveHaddock September2011 Issues:

    Visio source used for figures has a problem VisiosourceusedforfigureshasaproblemincludingMEP/MHFicons.

    Proposed Resolution:ProposedResolution: BallotedinQCor2

    DiscussionDiscussion NocommentsweresubmittedagainstthisfixinQcor2.

  • MaintenanceItem 0013MRPaddressforMSRPdoesnotexist

    Submission: Christian Boiger October 2011Submission:ChristianBoiger October2011 Issues:

    MSRP uses Nearest Bridge address, but text indicatesMSRPusesNearestBridgeaddress,buttextindicatesthereisaspecificMRPapplicationinTable101forthis thereisnot.

    d l i ProposedResolution: BallotedinQCor2Di i Discussion UpdatedinQCor2d01tomatchpreviousmeetingconsensusconsensus

  • MaintenanceItem 0014LLDPTLVerrorprocessing

    Submission:PaulCongdon,PatThaler Nov2011g , Issues:

    802.1ABtextisnotclearwhetheryoudiscardentireLLDPDUsifanoptionalTLVisinerrororsimplydiscardtheTLV.p p y

    ProposedResolution: MakeitclearthatyouonlydiscardtheTLViftheerrorisinan

    optionalTLV,butthePDUiftheerrorisinthemandatoryTLVsp , y Discussion

    Nostatuschange.PreviouslyagreedtowaitforABdocumentamendmentorrevisiontoaddress.

    Newmaintenanceitem0027includesthisfixandadditionalclarification.

  • MaintenanceItem 0015ClausenumberissueimpactsPICS

    Submission: Craig Gunther Nov 2011Submission:CraigGunther Nov2011 Issues:

    A new clause 35.2.5 was inserted pushing otherAnewclause35.2.5wasinsertedpushingotherclausesupinnumbering,butseveraloldreferencesinPICSwerenotadjusted.

    d l i ProposedResolution: BallotedinQCor2Di i Discussion NocommentssubmittedagainstthisduringQCor2ballot.ballot.

  • MaintenanceItem 0017TyposinPICS

    Submission: Craig Gunther Nov 2011 Submission:CraigGunther Nov2011 Issues:

    SRPissometimestransposedtoSPRinPICS ProposedResolution:

    BallotedinQCor2 Discussion

    NocommentssubmittedagainstthisduringQCor2ballot.

  • MaintenanceItem 0018Incorrectfigurereference

    Submission: Steve Haddock Nov 2011 Submission:SteveHaddock Nov2011 Issues:

    Figurereferenceincorrect ProposedResolution:

    ChangeFigure64toFigure262 Discussion

    IncorporatedintoQCor2d01

  • MaintenanceItem 0019IncorrectLinkAggregationfigureforbridges

    Submission:SteveHaddock Nov2011 Issues:

    LinkaggregationdiagramisshowasashimbetweenMSAPs but this doesnt work for bridge architectureMSAPs,butthisdoesn tworkforbridgearchitecture

    Similarissuewasaddressedin802.1ACballotcomment. ProposedResolution:

    ChangeFigure63usageofMSAPtoSAP. DeleteMACserviceline Change802.3MACtoMACg

    Discussion IncorporatedintoQCor2d01

  • MaintenanceItem 0020InconsistenttextwhenNumberOfValues iszero

    Submission:RichNewpol Dec2011p Issues:

    InQ2011,ifNumberOfValues iszerothentheThreePackedEvents vectorisnotincluded,butBNFappearsto, ppimplyNumberOfValues mustnotbezeroandvectoralwaysincluded.

    ProposedResolution: FixBNFtoindicateThreePackedEvents vectorisoptional ClearlystatewhathappenswhenNumberOfValues iszero.In

    10.8.2.8 Discussion

    IncorporatedintoQCor2d01tomatchconsensusfromlastmeeting

  • MaintenanceItem 0021TC must be configured for ETS to specify bandwidthTCmustbeconfiguredforETStospecifybandwidth

    Submission:AnoopGhanwani Jan2012 Issues: Issues:

    Qaz doesnotmakeitclearthatyoucanonlyconfigurebandwidthwhentheTCisconfiguredforETS.

    InvalidTLVsshouldbediscardedandstatedinD2.9

    ProposedResolution: IndicatedthattheTCtablemusthavevaluesof0iftheTCisnotconfiguredforETS.

    Discussion SincetheQCor2isbynecessityhavingtoaddressitemsthatareamendmentstoQRev,

    itisconceivablethatwecanincorporateasmallchangetoaddressthisitem.AnoophasproposedthefollowingtexttotheendofClauseD.2.9.7

    NOTEWhileitisintendedthatonlyTCsconfiguredforETSwillhaveabandwidthvalueassociatedwiththem,itispossible,duringconfigurationchanges,tohavesituationswhereaTCisnotconfiguredforETSbuthasanonzeroTCBandwidth percentage.Inthis case, the sum of all the TCBandwidth percentages much still be 100, but the TCsthiscase,thesumofalltheTCBandwidth percentagesmuchstillbe100,buttheTCsconfiguredforETSwouldtreatthenumberasarelativeweighandwouldsharetheavailablebandwidthinaccordancewiththat.

  • MaintenanceItem 0022MSTPMIBissues

    Submission:BenMackCrane Jan2012 Issues:

    MSTPMIBisoutofsyncwithrevisionofclause13of802 1Q2011802.1Q 2011

    enableBPDUtx defaultisnotconsistentwithieee8021MstpCistPortEnableBPDURxin23.5.10and23.5.1123.5.11

    ProposedResolution: ChangeDEFVALtotruefortheobjects.SeeattachedMIB.Di i Discussion IncorporatedintoQCor2d01tomatchconsensusfromlastmeeting