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MaintenanceTaskGroupMeetingsMeetings
March 6 2012March6,2012And
March14,2012
PaulCongdon
March 14 AgendaMarch14Agenda Patents QCor2BallotResolution Tony Reviewdetailedresponsesfromphoneconferencetobe
incorporated into next draft of QCor2incorporatedintonextdraftofQ Cor 2 Anoopproposedtextfor0021 SteveHaddockproposalfor0025 Agreement on path for 0027Agreementonpathfor0027 BenMackCraneproposedtextfor0029
DocumentresolutiontoitemsbeingleftforfutureworkItems 0023 and 0026 Items0023and0026
NewMaintenanceItem0031fromPanos
March 6 AgendaMarch6Agenda
PatentsPatents StatusUpdate
i i NewMaintenanceitems ExistingMaintenanceitems
Important StatusImportantStatus
This is Pauls last IEEE 802 1 meeting so newThisisPaul slastIEEE802.1meeting,sonewViceChairordelegatewillneedtrainingsoonafter or (preferably) during the Plenaryafteror(preferably)duringthePlenary
TransitionPlanW lk th h d t d i l i HI Walkthroughdocumentedprocessinxls inHI
DemonstratehowtogenerateWebpagesll b l bl h l Willbeavailabletohelpastimegoeson
StatusUpdate 6newmaintenanceitemsreceivedsinceJanuary Qbg inSponsorBallotandQCor2TaskGroupBallotcomplete
NEWMAINTENANCE ITEMSNEWMAINTENANCEITEMS
MaintenanceItem 0023Priority and Drop eligible parameters from BSI MEP/MIPPriorityandDrop_eligible parametersfromBSIMEP/MIP
Submission:MaartenVissers Jan2012 Issues:
Thepriorityanddrop_eligible paramters forCBPsISSaresupposedtobefromtheBSI,nottheBVLANvalueswhenCBPcontainsclause6.18BSIMEP/MIPfunctions.
ProposedResolution: Modify6.11.2togetIPCPandIDEIparameters StatehowparametersareobtainedinsteadofindicatingtheyarethesameastheEISS
Discussion Thegeneralbeliefisthatthescopeofchangesrequiredtoaddressthisitemarebeyond
thecurrentscopevehiclesthatareopen.Anychangesherewouldbeeffectivelyundoingpreviousagreementsandthusthisitemwillbeleftinthereceivedstateforconsiderationinafuturerevision.Thisitemisrelatedto0026aswellwithsimilarresolution.Themaintenanceitemisdescribingprocessesoccurringonegress.Clause6.11isspecificallyreplacing6.9whenaCBPisbeingused,sowherequeuingoccursshouldbemoreobvious.TheinsertionofMIP/MEPshimsinthearchitecturecreatedtheneedtospecifywherethequeuesmightbeplacedandasaresult,wherepriorityanddrop_eligible comefromisinconsistentwhenaCBPisinplaceandwhennot.Theproposedresolutionsdonothelpthissituationanditisdesiredtohavemoreimplementationfreedom.
MaintenanceItem 0024Typosin6.1.4and6.1.6
Submission: John Messenger Jan 2012Submission:JohnMessenger Jan2012 Issues:
S i t d i O P i tT P i tMAC i 6 1 4 SpaceinsertedinOperPointToPointMAC in6.1.4 Identificationmissspelledin6.1.6
ProposedResolution: Fix
Discussion ProposefornextpassofQCor2p p Q
MaintenanceItem 0025Table for learned BMAC addresses in PIPTableforlearnedB MACaddressesinPIP
Submission:MaartenVissers Feb2012 Issues:
UseoftheenableConnetionIdentifier parameterimpliesthatthePIPmustholdatableofp paddressesreferencedbytheconnection_identifier,butnosuchtableisdescribedanywhereinthetext.
ProposedResolution:S if i 6 10 th t th PIP t i t bl d id ifi d t il d i i t t Specifyin6.10thatthePIPcontainsatableandprovidespecificsdetailedinmaintenancerequest
Specifyin6.10.1thatalearningprocessstoresthevalues Specifyin6.10.2thatthetableisusedtofindtheBDAvalue
DiscussionDiscussion Howtheconnection_identifier valueisusedtoobtaintheBMACaddressisreally
implementationspecific.Therewasaspecificcommentduringthedevelopmentofthistomakesuretheconnection_identifier wasanindirectreferencetotheactualMACaddressandnotexplicit This also allows the connection identifier to contain other values for other port typesexplicit.Thisalsoallowstheconnection_identifier tocontainothervaluesforotherporttypes(e.g.PortExtension).TherewasandisastrongdesiretoNOThavealearning/ageingfunctionforthiscapability,sonoadditionaltableisrequired.Giventhis,wereallydonthaveaproblemhere,butaclarificationcouldbehelpfulandtwoproposalsareonthetable;Maketheconnection identifier explicitly a MAC address for CBPs or insert a note that indicates this isconnection_identifier explicitlyaMACaddressforCBPsorinsertanotethatindicatesthisisimplementationspecificandinthecaseofa1:1mappingdoesnotrequireanylearning/ageingandcanbestoredintheexistingFDB.SteveHaddockwillproposetextforeitheroptionandthiswillbediscussedattheplenary.
MaintenanceItem 0026Flow Classification and Queuing for CBPFlowClassificationandQueuingforCBP
Submission:MaartenVissers Feb2012 Issues: Issues:
Thereisnospecificationofwhere8.6.5and8.6.6functionsarelocatedinaCBP.
ProposedResolution: Add this specification Assume 8 6 6 function is outside the BVLAN area Assume 8 6 5 Addthisspecification.Assume8.6.6functionisoutsidetheBVLANarea.Assume8.6.5
functionisbetweenBSIdownMIPandBSIupMIP.
Discussion Thegeneralbeliefisthatthescopeofchangesrequiredtoaddressthisitemarebeyondg p g q y
thecurrentscopevehiclesthatareopen.Anychangesherewouldbeeffectivelyundoingpreviousagreementsandthusthisitemwillbeleftinthereceivedstateforconsiderationinafuturerevision.Thisitemisrelatedto0023aswellwithsimilarresolution.Thelocationofthequeuingfunctions(8.6.6)aredocumentedandareaboveq g ( )the6.11functions.Thelocationofflowclassification(8.6.5)ismoretricky.Itwasspecificallyleftoutoffigure222becauseitisimpossibletoaccuratelydepictitinthearchitecture.Theflowclassifiersareingressfilters,buthaveimplicationsonfeaturesthatdependontheresultoffunctionsafterrelay.OnepossibilityistocarryinformationfromtheingressflowclassifieracrosstheEISStoegress.TheFigure222pinsdownwherequeuingisdoneandcreatesproblemsforimplementationsandperhapsshouldberemovedentirely.Restructuringthedocumenttodepictthisisnottrivial.
MaintenanceItem 0027EndofLLDPDUTLVerrorhandling
Submission:PaulCongdon Feb2012 Issues:
TextisunclearhowtohandleerrorcasesaroundtheEndofLLDPDUTLV.ItisamandatoryTLV,butweappeartoacceptthePDUifitisntpresent.
ProposedResolution:p Twochoices:alwaysdiscardthePDUiftheTLVisnotpresent,orupdateallthe
places(6.6.1,9.2.7.7.2)wherewedescribecriteriafordiscardingtheframe. Proposedresolutioninmaintenancerequestassumeswetrytosalvagethe
PDU whenever possible.PDUwheneverpossible. Discussion
Groupdiscussedchoicestoresolvethis.OneeasywayistomaketheTLVoptionalinsteadofmandatory.Italreadyiseffectivelyoptionalsinceitisntvalidated on receipt though we stress it must be present on transmit Thevalidatedonreceipt,thoughwestressitmustbepresentontransmit.Theotheroptionistoclearlydocumentthecurrentsituationwhichistheintentoftheproposedresolutioninthemaintenanceitem.Tobediscussedwithabroaderaudienceattheplenary.
MaintenanceItem 0029MissingTComponentcreationtextandennumeration
Submission:BenMackCrane Feb2012 Issues:
TComponentcreationanditsenumerationintheMIBwereneveradded.
ProposedResolution: Addclause17.5.2.xtodescribeTComponentcreation Add enumeration in MIB.AddenumerationinMIB.
Discussion ProposeinclusiontonextdraftofQCor2.Thereis,however,a
ripple effect as there is no text on how to create a TComponentrippleeffectasthereisnotextonhowtocreateaT Componentportaswell.BenwillproposesometextforTonytoreviewattheplenaryandtoincorporateintothenextdraft.
MaintenanceItem 0031TypoonMA_UNITDATA.x in6.1.1
Submission: Panagiotis Saltsidis March 2012Submission:Panagiotis Saltsidis March2012 Issues:
M UNITDATA h ld b MA UNITDATA i M_UNITDATA.x shouldbeMA_UNITDATA.x in6.1.1
P d R l ti ProposedResolution: Fixit
Discussion ProposeinclusiontonextdraftofQCor2
EXISTING MAINTENANCE ITEMSEXISTINGMAINTENANCEITEMS
MaintenanceItem 0003Inconsistent VID for LBR FramesInconsistentVIDforLBRFrames
Submission:SteveHaddock March2011 Issues:Issues:
Multiplechoicesforselectingvlan_identifier NonnormativelanguageusedtodescribeVIDselection Normativetextfor20.28.2isforPBBTEonlyy Priorityanddropeligibilitydeterminationalsonotspecified. NomanagedobjectstosetPrimaryVIDforMIP
LatestStatus:Balloting SteveHaddocktointroduceaballotcommentatSanFrancisco
meetingfor802.1aq Documentisstillinsponsorballot?Di i Discussion 802.1aqhascompletedSponsorBallot.Expectedtoapprovesending
toRevCom inMarch
MaintenanceItem 0005MissingenableforLinkAggregationTLV
Submission:PatThaler June2011 Issues:
WhenLinkAgg TLVwasmovedinto802.1MIB,theenablewasnotincludedE i bl D 5 f lld V2Xd 1C fi P Vl T bl R f d ErrorintableD5forlldpV2Xdot1ConfigPortVlanTable.ReferenceandMIBtextdontagree
MissingsecurityconsiderationsinD.4.4forCongestionNotification Latest Status: Ready for BallotLatestStatus:ReadyforBallot
Waitingforarevisionof802.1AXtofix.PARagreedtobemodified Newmaintenanceitem0009submittedtoaddresssendingLLDPon
physicallinks Discussion
AXRevisintaskgroupballot.AcommenttoresolvethishasbeensubmittedbyPatThaler.Subsequentresolutionwillbehandledinthetask grouptaskgroup.
MaintenanceItem 0006Corrigendumitemsfor.1AS
Submission:GeoffGarner June2011 Issues:
VariousA ti l b i k d t TG it ActivelybeingworkedataTGitem
LatestStatus:ReadyforBallot WaitingforABCorrigendumballotg g
Discussion InitialofficialdraftofASCor1hasbeenproducedbutnoballot run yet AVB TG is keeping track of the bugs thatballotrunyet.AVBTGiskeepingtrackofthebugsthatneedfixinginASCor1.Iftheycomeacrossanissuethattheywouldliketosaveforlater,theywillneedtofileamaintenanceitemtotrackit.
MaintenanceItem 0007incorrectoperPointToPointMAC references
Submission: Craig Gunther August 2011Submission:CraigGunther August2011 Issues:
When 802.1ak was rolled into 802.1Q it containedWhen802.1akwasrolledinto802.1Qitcontainedincorrectreferencestoclause6.4.3foroperPointToPointMAC.Theyshouldbe6.6.3.
L S ll i LatestStatus:Balloting IncludedinQbg SponsorBallotDi i Discussion: NocommentsagainstthisinQbg inrecirc.Expectedto closetoclose
MaintenanceItem 0008MVRPcutandpasteerrors
Submission: Craig Gunther August 2011Submission:CraigGunther August2011 Issues:
MVPR1 and MVPR2 PICs items were pasted from MVPR1andMVPR2PICsitemswerepastedfromMMRPitemsandremainincorrect
Latest Status: BallotingLatestStatus:Balloting IncludedinQbg SponsorBallot
DiscussionDiscussion NocommentsagainstthisinQbg inrecirc.Expectedtoclosep
MaintenanceItem 0009DisambiguatingLLDPoverLinkAggregations
Submission:JeffreyLynch September2011 Issues:
ItisunclearhowLLDPshouldoperateoveranaggregation ItiscurrentlynotpossibletodetermineatthereceiveriftheLLDPframesweresent
from a peer at the physical link or at the aggregatefromapeeratthephysicallinkorattheaggregate
LatestStatus:Received DiscussedatNanjingInterimandatAtlantaPlenary
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2011/maintlynchLLDPoverLAG0920p g p yv1.pdf
Wedesiretohavetheabilitytosend/receiveatthephysicallayer canbedoneinAXbq. AgreedtoworkoutthetechnicaldetailsinAXbq preferaTPMRtypeYtosend/receive
P f d t d fi TLV bit th dif i i ti TLV f t it PreferredtodefinenewTLVsornewbits,thusmodifyingexistingTLVs prefertowaitforAXrevisiontofixMIBsandTLVs
WaitingforAXRevtoaddress.StatusofAXRev?
DiscussionDiscussion TobediscussedaspartofAXRev.PatThalerhasincorporateacommentagainstthe
currenttaskgroupballot,sosubsequentresolutionwillbehandledthere.
MaintenanceItem 0010IncorrectAnnexreference
Submission: Christian Boiger September 2011 Submission:ChristianBoiger September2011 Issues:
A reference to Annex G in 6 11 4 should really be a AreferencetoAnnexGin6.11.4shouldreallybeareferencetoAnnexI
Latest Status: Balloting LatestStatus:Balloting IncludedinQbg SponsorBallot
Discussion Discussion Nocomments,andQbg willbegoingtoRevCom soon
MaintenanceItem 0011No recommended priority to traffic class mappings for creditNorecommendedprioritytotrafficclassmappingsforcredit
basedshaperintable84
Submission: Christian Boiger September 2011Submission:ChristianBoiger September2011 Issues:
Text recommends classes 5 and 6 for SR classes A & B,Textrecommendsclasses5and6forSRclassesA&B,butshouldbe3and2.
Tablereferencesarewrong ProposedResolution:
BallotedinQCor2 Discussion
UpdatedinQCor2d01tomatchpreviousmeetingconsensusconsensus
MaintenanceItem 0012MissingMEP/MHFiconsinfig262
Submission: Steve Haddock September 2011Submission:SteveHaddock September2011 Issues:
Visio source used for figures has a problem VisiosourceusedforfigureshasaproblemincludingMEP/MHFicons.
Proposed Resolution:ProposedResolution: BallotedinQCor2
DiscussionDiscussion NocommentsweresubmittedagainstthisfixinQcor2.
MaintenanceItem 0013MRPaddressforMSRPdoesnotexist
Submission: Christian Boiger October 2011Submission:ChristianBoiger October2011 Issues:
MSRP uses Nearest Bridge address, but text indicatesMSRPusesNearestBridgeaddress,buttextindicatesthereisaspecificMRPapplicationinTable101forthis thereisnot.
d l i ProposedResolution: BallotedinQCor2Di i Discussion UpdatedinQCor2d01tomatchpreviousmeetingconsensusconsensus
MaintenanceItem 0014LLDPTLVerrorprocessing
Submission:PaulCongdon,PatThaler Nov2011g , Issues:
802.1ABtextisnotclearwhetheryoudiscardentireLLDPDUsifanoptionalTLVisinerrororsimplydiscardtheTLV.p p y
ProposedResolution: MakeitclearthatyouonlydiscardtheTLViftheerrorisinan
optionalTLV,butthePDUiftheerrorisinthemandatoryTLVsp , y Discussion
Nostatuschange.PreviouslyagreedtowaitforABdocumentamendmentorrevisiontoaddress.
Newmaintenanceitem0027includesthisfixandadditionalclarification.
MaintenanceItem 0015ClausenumberissueimpactsPICS
Submission: Craig Gunther Nov 2011Submission:CraigGunther Nov2011 Issues:
A new clause 35.2.5 was inserted pushing otherAnewclause35.2.5wasinsertedpushingotherclausesupinnumbering,butseveraloldreferencesinPICSwerenotadjusted.
d l i ProposedResolution: BallotedinQCor2Di i Discussion NocommentssubmittedagainstthisduringQCor2ballot.ballot.
MaintenanceItem 0017TyposinPICS
Submission: Craig Gunther Nov 2011 Submission:CraigGunther Nov2011 Issues:
SRPissometimestransposedtoSPRinPICS ProposedResolution:
BallotedinQCor2 Discussion
NocommentssubmittedagainstthisduringQCor2ballot.
MaintenanceItem 0018Incorrectfigurereference
Submission: Steve Haddock Nov 2011 Submission:SteveHaddock Nov2011 Issues:
Figurereferenceincorrect ProposedResolution:
ChangeFigure64toFigure262 Discussion
IncorporatedintoQCor2d01
MaintenanceItem 0019IncorrectLinkAggregationfigureforbridges
Submission:SteveHaddock Nov2011 Issues:
LinkaggregationdiagramisshowasashimbetweenMSAPs but this doesnt work for bridge architectureMSAPs,butthisdoesn tworkforbridgearchitecture
Similarissuewasaddressedin802.1ACballotcomment. ProposedResolution:
ChangeFigure63usageofMSAPtoSAP. DeleteMACserviceline Change802.3MACtoMACg
Discussion IncorporatedintoQCor2d01
MaintenanceItem 0020InconsistenttextwhenNumberOfValues iszero
Submission:RichNewpol Dec2011p Issues:
InQ2011,ifNumberOfValues iszerothentheThreePackedEvents vectorisnotincluded,butBNFappearsto, ppimplyNumberOfValues mustnotbezeroandvectoralwaysincluded.
ProposedResolution: FixBNFtoindicateThreePackedEvents vectorisoptional ClearlystatewhathappenswhenNumberOfValues iszero.In
10.8.2.8 Discussion
IncorporatedintoQCor2d01tomatchconsensusfromlastmeeting
MaintenanceItem 0021TC must be configured for ETS to specify bandwidthTCmustbeconfiguredforETStospecifybandwidth
Submission:AnoopGhanwani Jan2012 Issues: Issues:
Qaz doesnotmakeitclearthatyoucanonlyconfigurebandwidthwhentheTCisconfiguredforETS.
InvalidTLVsshouldbediscardedandstatedinD2.9
ProposedResolution: IndicatedthattheTCtablemusthavevaluesof0iftheTCisnotconfiguredforETS.
Discussion SincetheQCor2isbynecessityhavingtoaddressitemsthatareamendmentstoQRev,
itisconceivablethatwecanincorporateasmallchangetoaddressthisitem.AnoophasproposedthefollowingtexttotheendofClauseD.2.9.7
NOTEWhileitisintendedthatonlyTCsconfiguredforETSwillhaveabandwidthvalueassociatedwiththem,itispossible,duringconfigurationchanges,tohavesituationswhereaTCisnotconfiguredforETSbuthasanonzeroTCBandwidth percentage.Inthis case, the sum of all the TCBandwidth percentages much still be 100, but the TCsthiscase,thesumofalltheTCBandwidth percentagesmuchstillbe100,buttheTCsconfiguredforETSwouldtreatthenumberasarelativeweighandwouldsharetheavailablebandwidthinaccordancewiththat.
MaintenanceItem 0022MSTPMIBissues
Submission:BenMackCrane Jan2012 Issues:
MSTPMIBisoutofsyncwithrevisionofclause13of802 1Q2011802.1Q 2011
enableBPDUtx defaultisnotconsistentwithieee8021MstpCistPortEnableBPDURxin23.5.10and23.5.1123.5.11
ProposedResolution: ChangeDEFVALtotruefortheobjects.SeeattachedMIB.Di i Discussion IncorporatedintoQCor2d01tomatchconsensusfromlastmeeting