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JRN JO-Nov-72 8:58 Vls~ Lo g : Joe Sberro National Cancer Insti tu~e
Joe Sberro may return Friday 10r turther discussion
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JBN 30-NOV-12 8 :58 Vist Log: Joe Sberro National Cnncer lost 1 tute
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Oliver Whitby "fro .. down stairs has a proJect .trom the National Cancer Institute to look at in~ormation needs thre. Ris contract ad.1nistrator is Joe Sberro. O'liver and Joe spent about 45 _loutes wIth ~e talkIng about the NIC NLS and our plans for A center ~or In~orNa~ion centers thurs nov 29. The International A~ency ~or Reserch on Caocer in Leon Frnce headed by Dr. Tomatas ls considering an International CaneeT Research Data Bank. They are interested in Th,ree man kinds o-r intorNition, I) who is working on what problems, raw an d processed experimental data, and bIbliographic data.
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JBK 30-NOV-72 8:58 Vlst LOA: Joe Sberro Nationai Cancer Institute
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(J1309l) 30-NOV-72 8:58; TI He: Au'thor(s): North, Jeanne B. /JBN; Distribution: Engelbart, Douglas C., Norton, James C., Kurtllck, Michael D., Irby, Char~es H., North, Jeanne B., Feinter, EtJzabeth J . (Jake)/dce Jcn mdk chi Jbn Jake : Sub-CollectIons: SRI-ARCi Clerk: JBN;
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JBP 29-NOV-72 18:44 13092 business
het to nancy
i have some untinnished busniess abou-t socket nu",bers I1 n d so ~orth are you interested In he l ping me a et it done or is someone eLse more app r olate ? the one thing 1 have 1n mind right now is an rIc listing a ll the known sockets that are listened to by servi ce programs at various sItes -- so rt o~ a n arpa n et compu ter p hone book.
could you tell me BONe of the names/accounts that you si g n on to v arious compute rs wJth this is ~or the purpose a t leavin g mes!"ll1l1e s .
1 have been known to slgn on to
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mit-ai,mlt-mathLab,and dmcg as IJp
to bbn- tene x as doma l
t o Isi-tenex aB uela-n rac (this is a sha r ed user account)
to srl-are-tenex as ucla-nrne (this is shared) and jnto nls as Jbp
to ucla-nme as Jp
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) (Jt3092) 29-NOV-72 18:44; Titte: Author(s): Postel, Jonathan B./JBP; Distribution: Ncl g us, Nancy J./NJN; Sub-Collections: NlC; Clerk: J9P;
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JBP 29-NOY-72 t 8 :46 13093 tile to o ?
V1nt: [ 411'1 very Interested in being aware n~ -the goings on o~ the Interna-tlonn.t working g roup on COInI)uter notworks. couid you ge t _0 on to the .ailing li s t? -Jon
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JBP 29- NOV-12 18 :46 13093 me too ?
(Jl:10 93 ) 29-NOV-72 18:46; Title: Author(s,: Postel, Jonathan B./JBP; DIstribution: Ccr~, Dr. Vinton G. /VGC ; Sub-Collections: NIe; Clerk: JAP;
WAF 30-NOY-72 10:45 13094 a qUBstLon
l s there a way to p r event getting stuck W'lth an Au t hor's copy?
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(Jl:30 94 ) 30-NOV-72 10:45; A./MAP' Distribution: White, C lerk: MAP ;
YAP 30- NOV-72 10:45 13094
Title: Author(s'): Ja~e8 E . (Jlm)/JEY;
PadllpskYt Michael Sub-Collections: Nr C ;
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NJN 30-N'OV-72 7: 14 The most cheering experience "ve bad in a long timo
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'[ g ot your mall; an a.nswer Is on its way back. There was much more to be said but l g ot writer's eramp. ( My typewriter is buri ed at the back of a closet.) We nt to see the new Tru~taut .fll.m "Two Bngllsh Girls" last nl&ht: he Just can't capture it. Reality i s much _ore real.
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NJN 30-NOV-72 7: 14 13095 The most cheerLng experience I've had in a t ong time
(Jl:)095) JO-NOV-72 7: 14; Di strIbution: Van Nouhuys, NJN;
Title: Author(s): Nei g u9, Nancy J.!NJ N; Dirk R./ OVN; Sub-CollectIons: HI C; Clerk:
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NJN 30-NOV-i2 7:26 13096
No, r haven't had a chance to use ucab recently. IMlac Corp . s"tl ll ha.sn't produced the new TSE version with the patch, so I've been husy with other 8tU~~. [ am interested in anythi n g you can provide that _Ill enable Me to use your sys t em , no matter how trivial. ltm also thinking o~ convincing Ny boas that J need a trip to Cal to learn about obscure systems like UCSB some tiMe In January or ano1:her equ ally cold month. So Bend II NIM " o r whatever (althoug h [ know the trIck) and I'lt keep you posted .
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(J130{)6 ) 30- NOV-72 '1: 26 j Title: Di s tri b ution: P i c k e n s , John R./JR P;
NJ N 3D-NOV-72 7 : 26 1 3 096
Author( s ): Ne l g us, Nancy J . / NJ N; S ub - Coll ec ti o n s : NI C ; C l e rk: NJ N;
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NJN 30-NOV-72 8:00 13097 Fu.rther g ripe ans wers
I've been checkJne device to the Trp .
up on your request about connecting At this point in time it cannot be
What can currently be done is the loltowina :
your RJE done.
dial your RJF device into the nearest host on the net that handles It; 1.e. supports the RJE protocol .
~et an ANTS (like [llin01s); it claims to handle anythina ..
~et your own (MP with & host.
Another possIbility tor the near future:
The TIP currently handles printers and ttys and will soon handle a card reader.. That gives you all the equlp~ent you need to run your own rJs.. The teletype could be used as an operator ' s console to set up the necessary connection and then
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Tn the farthe r future, i .. e. in the planning (Ideo.) s tag e, is the poeslbtity o~ two types 01 T(P--a small siMpte T[P to handle only interactive devices, as the current one was desJ g ned tor, and a bX K~er. mor e exp ensive model that would handle RJE, ma g tape aDd
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By tho way, the .re!l.80n why you got a T R CLOSED in the middle 01' your ~irst gripe messag e (and therefore lost it) 1s becaUge Tenex has a 30 minute autologout on non-togaed-1n server £unctions . Thirty minutes Ie not unreasonable. Keep it shorter in the tutur e.
We ha ven't Motten your Nova~ letter yet. hunt characters work?
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NJ N 30- NOV-12 8 : 00 13 0 9 7 Further g ripe ans we r s
( Jt3097) 30-NOV-72 8 :00; Titt e : Au thor( s ): Ne La U 9 1 N~ncy J. / NJ N; Oi~ ~rl butlon: Ros lc h . Rayno r K.! RKR; S u b-Collections : Nle; Clerk: NJ N;
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RWW 30 - NOV-72 l6:51 l 3098 Software G rou p Weet n g Monday
In ca~e Charles dldn't ~et ~o you, we would like to have a .eetln« o~ the so~tware g roup to ta~k ahout tasks tor the next coupl e months or BO and to get trom people their ~Ists ot thIngs they w()uld like to do. Meeting at 10:00 Monday .
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RWW 30-NOV-72 16:51 13098 Software Group Neetna Monday
(J1 309S) 30-NOV-7 2 16:51; TltLo: Author(s): Watson, Richard'l./ RvtW; D i strJbution: Mi tchell , James 0 ., D~ut8ch , L . Peter , K.aye , Dian e S. , Andrews, Don [., BasB, Walt, Duvall, Wiltiam S., Church , Na ry S., Hopper, J. D., Irby, Char les H., Lehtman , Harvey 0., Melvin , John T . , Parsley, Bruc e L., Paxton, Wi lliam H., Wallace, Donald C. (SMokey), Victor, Kenne th B. (Ken), Ferguson, Pe r s R., And re ws , Don ( ./ops dew key wr1 dia ; Sub-CoLlec~loos: SRI-ARC NPG; Clerk: RWY.
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DeE l-D £C-72 11: 17 1 3099 PROGRAM 8 t ate.~nt shoul d be ab l e to have a name
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DeE I-DEC-'12 11:17 13099 PROGRAM stll:tel'lent shou ld be able to have 11 nlUIB
I sUAgest that the s ynt:u.x Q~ our programming lan g uages be modl£led to allow a name on the PROGRAM s tatement. As far as I understan d any in1erdependencies a.ana the names 0;( prog rams, procedures , entry points, etc., it would seea bes~ to mB ~or the co~pller Simply to accept and i g nore the PROGR AM-stllt:eMent nllme, rather than have It: expect: to rind subsequent: coincidence wIth any [Os or etc. found wJthIn the prograM .
I leel that It Is inconsistent with the senerat pbllo80phy of NLS not to be able to nAMe these s tlltemment s ; and I'm sure that it would be handy to be ab~e to link to them.
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DeE I-DEC-72 11:11 13099 PWOGR~N atate.ent should b~ able to have a naae
(J1309ft ) t-DEC-72 11:17; Title: Author(s): En g elbart, Douglas C./DCB ; Di s tribution: Trby, Charles H., Paxton, William H., An d r ewa, Leht .an, Harvey G., Mitchell, Ja~ee G., Deutsch, L. Peter/chi h ~l J g m lpd ; SUb-Collections: SRI-ARC; Clerk: DeE ;
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ORC I-DEC-72 10:20 13100 arc-hIved
Dirk;
thanx 10 r the In~~r~ation o n ge ttlnQ lJstin g s of archived t Iles. It 8901118 very h andy . I t itl. p r obab l y be e v e n hand ler when (If) I ie: availabl e throug h nls. [ s such Itvailabllity pla nn ed?
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DUC I-DEC-72 10:20 131 00
Title: Author(s): Crocker, Dirk H./OVN; Sub-Collections:
David H./O UC; NrC; Clerk.:
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I'll be able to spend more time help!n" you to find thlo"9 to do on the systeM over Ch ri stMas vacation, so don't despair. [Ive been caugbt up in " ",ducat 10n" and haven I t had the tlIR'" to real.ly respond to requests. TaLk to you later.
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) (J13tOt) I-DEC-72 12:38; Author(s): Pickens, John R./JRP; Distribution: NeJ~u8, Nancy J./NJN; Sub-Cotlections: NIC; Clerk: JRP;
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KLB 30-NOV-72 20:08 13102 JOURNAL TEST BY KLB
) TH(S IS A TEST TO SEE IF I UNDBRSTAND TilE JOURNAL 1
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(J13102) 30-NOY-72 20:08; Title: Distribution: BO.-1.88., Kenneth L . /no;
KLB 30-NOV-72 20 :08 t3102
Author(s): Bowles, Kenneth L./KLB; S ub-Collections: N(C; C1.erk.: "LB;
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LP D I-D EC-72 0:J4 13103 Reply to l3076.
L aaree a bout LtO. MPS meetings don't seem to be held very re8ut~rly these days; in any case, [ have pretty well dropped out o~ the WPS e~tort, Jim Mitche ll is in charg e . 1 would be glad to speed up RE ADe and LSGFRMT If you want. [ s usp ec t, by the way, that there may be some dramatic iMprovements which could result tram better oraanizatlon (e. g . mcrgina subroutines in-line) whIch would not r ea lly be showed up by the call-return trac e . Also, have you considered ( 1) swltchln8 to an interpretive command parser or (2) redoin a the pattern ma tch co~piter alon K the lLnes r suggested a lew months ago? Or are things o~ tbis ma g nitued to bo left ~or the WPS r e write?
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LPD l-DEC-72 0: 14 13103 RepLy to 13076.
(J131 03 ) l-DBC- 72 0: 14. Title: Author(s): Deutach, L. Peter/LPD; Distribution: AndrewSt Don 1./OlA; SUb-Col lectlons: NIC; Clerk: LPD;
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NJN l-DEC-72 1:42 13104 'Yes, I'll hOl.p
Hi Jon. I think [ a$ appropria~e (tor the Job and other things too), and I aD even interested. It will be useful In~ormation
for users, and a supplement for our g rIpe system here.
What would you like me to do?
We , tho Imp group, have accounts at a~l the sites, but they all are shared, except ~or NEIGUS a~ BBN-Tonex. Some are not even real accounts, that is, no Lite storage, like at NIT. ( Excep t DMCG which is real.)
This is the lIst anyway:
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Net account, AS you know.
HIC bbn-net; you know my ldent
UTAH-tO network-uscr
Nultics BBN' CNe t
This Is anonymous.
MARV 62,364
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CASE network
CliUI0B n 900a1"00; ge neral net account
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ucsd zcl; this Is net account
DIiCG , NIT-A I, NIT-WL bbnti p
BUN-tOx NETGUS
USC-lSI impg uys
The hest place Is bbn, then the nic, then any other tonex slte.
How are you? 'Well, 1 bope. • •• Nancy
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(J13L04) I-DEC-727:42; Ti tle: Author{s): Nelgua. Nancy J./NJN; DIs tribution: Postel. Jonathan B./J BP; Sub-Co~lection s: N[C; Clerk: NJN;
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ADO 1-DEC-;2 15:32 13106 Diatr~butjon of notes
[n regard to the chanae o~ policY in distribution o~ g roup notes (12737,1:w), [ ~hink we would like to continue to recieve NMG,ASS and INWG notes at SAAC. eveD thouah no one here is a ae~ber ot those groups, because o~ ~he continulna conte~plation o~ unusual 1uture uses ~1 the net as part of our operation _ Do you think this Is reasonable?
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(.113t06) 1-0BC-72 15:32; Tl tle! DistrLbutLon: Dotao, Bruce A., North, Sub-CollectLons: NIC; CLe~k : ADO;
ADO l-DEC-72 15:32 13106
Au"thor(s): Owen, A. D. (Buz)/ADO ; Jeanne B . JUAn JSN( 1'yJ );
AKB l-DBC-72 13:54 13101 RespGn&e to your message
) .. e have chana ed your host to 35. in our survey and netwrk proar&.s. Thanks 10r letting ~e know.
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AKB I-DEC-72 13:54 13107 Respon3e to your aessage
) (Jt3107) I-DEC-72 13:54; TitLe: Author(s): Bhushan, Abhay K./AKB; Distribution: Bowles. Kenneth L./KLll; Sub-Collect Ions: N(C; Clerk: AKB;
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DVN t-DEC-72 16:39 thIs 18 8 test
e have a rough est .lmate 'from tbe carpenters that Ken Vic-tor tables (Journ l, 12485, ) wou ld COg t about alSO to bui ld. It ls cbeaper to build new than Modi1y an old talbe.
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Jl. and I have agreed to build one Ken Vlcttor table to see how it 80es ..
"(he carpente r s wanted more In:forlIIatiotl than was 1n your epee . Could you .. eet with hlm(Tony McFadden, ex2224) and tell bim what
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'This report covers In c1eta.ll work trom Feb r ua ry 1971 to May 1972. 4
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Statements can be up to 2000 characterzz long Sa
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Author(s): Van Nouhuys, Dirk H./OVN; Sub- Collections: SRI-ARC; Clerk: i
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e have a rough estJmate from the carpenters that Ken Victor tables (Journl,12485,) would cost about $150 to bulld. It J9 cheaper to bulld new thao mod11y ao old tatbe.
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Jlm and I have agreed to build one Ken Vlcttor table to see how 1 t Aoes .
The carpenters wanted lIIore .infor.a1:1on than wts.s In your spec. Could you ~eet with hlm(Tony McFadden, ex2224) and tell him what
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lhis report covers in detail work ~rom February 197 1 to May 1972. 4
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Statements can be up to 2000 cba,racterzz tong Sa
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(Jl3t09) I-DEC-72 16:44; Title: Author( s,: Van Nouhuys, Dirk H./DVN; Distribution: NelguB, Nancy J./NJN(thi s is a teast); Keywords: butlshit; Sub-Collect iOlls: DPeS; Obsoletes DoculRent( f:1): 1204L; Updates Document(sJ: 12041i Clerk: DVN;
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JPV l-DEC-72 16:35 NLS Com~and Btd118~ica: Current Jmplementatlon and plans.
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A~ter tbe Ieee meeting Doug assigned me to work under Paul In the gatherln~ ot perform~nce statistlcs. Accordingly I have begun 90,.8 program changes that people should k.now about although they are stil l preliminary -see (LJOURNAL, 12793,) and (LJOURNAL, 12800,)- I have also taken a took at BOWle 1""1:orlllatloo " athering co._ands that were aLready In the system. The purpose o~ this note is to report on the status or all this.
I. CURRENT PLANS .
There is a new cUIII_and in NLS that Is I ntended "tor ge neral use and Is called:
g( 0 to] .i[ requency slut1st ICB]
This command current~y has two Bublllodes , RESET and DISPLAY. The fIrst one re-lnitiaLizes a matrix Into which we store ~he COMMand frequency counters. The second one displays the coun~er8 In a very rough ~orm ~hat won't be meaninMtul to you for a while (until we decide on the m08~ approprJate way to ~ormat thLs as a table 10r gene rat use).
The n ex t step, Pau L and me to and de;tine the
before more deTaILed desi"n is at~e.lpted, is for bes in usln" this mechanism in Borne test situatIons most pro~l ~ab~e lessona we could draw trom Jt.
We'll welcome your ideas on that.
II. NLS PERFORMANCE MEASURES; AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL PERSPECTrVE.
While digging in the dark recesses of NCTRL I've :roun d an obscure
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The SiHnl ticance 0-1. the ancient SYMbol "WSI" has apparentLy been LOST, bUT SOMe old-tIMers reaemher an early traditIon about this co .. _and, and It ~oe8 Like This:
"Rack in the old days « ••• ) the tIme stamp on each character was returned alo n a W'11-h -the Charu.cTer. No_, with bJ g characters, the time stamp is inclUded in -the "character" only Jf a monitor option Is invoked. (Charles [rby, I'm told, knows abou~ this optIon) Apparently, ~his option is nOT turned on no_, so the com.and described ( ... . ) ca.nnot do Ite ThinK."
The COM_and (ew) causes NLS to display ~he average tine (~or yhe Whole session) required before a character ~yped by ~he user Is a iven -to the NLS progra*. A CA returns to the previous state.
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In addItion to the above, ~he real and job times required to execute various types o~ NL S co~m4nds can be collected and saved on 6. :tIle, which !nUS1. later be l)rOcessed by a user prograM 1.0
lnterpret and ~ormat the results. This is invoked by:
c[ 0 to] U[ Be Measurement s]
Beg in i.s tben the de::ta.ult, e[ od] stops 1:he l'IIea.~U"rements and writes the ~lle whose DaNe was declared a1: Begin tj~e. A samplin g interval in minutes is also requested.
, [ lntend to spend some time tryIn g these programs (although they do not quite do what Paul and I need) with u view 01' possibly .er~lng them with the new statistics. As an old Journal article puts it,
"each 01 these measurement techni.ques was added to NLS at di.:t:fereot "times and In response 1:0 di ·t":ferent questions we were asking about system activity. No atteMpt was made to Integ~ate new measurement ":facILities wIth extant ones, so it IS a motley
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"he curren-t p.xperimental sys"tem (ret.-nle) has both the " go to -rrequency" command - with a dIsptay problem temporarily preventing output :from this version- and the " g oto Use Jleasurements" COlllflUI.nds where two earlier bug s hAve noW" been £ixed. It senerates a ":file that we've Buccese:tutty printed
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(JI311 0 ) t-IJ EC-72 16:35; Titl\:: Author( s): Vallee, Jacques F./JFV; D19~rlbution: AMent, Station, Hotfman, Carol B., Lee, Susan R., Ylc'lael, Elizabeth K., Dornbus h, Charles F., ARC, Guest 0., Felnler, Elizabeth J. (Jake), Handhook, Aua.enta~lon Research, Kelley, Kirk B., Wey er, N. Oean, Byrd , lCay F., Prather, Ralpb, Wh.ite, James E. (Jill", Vallee, Jacques F., Kaye, Diane S., aec h, Paul, Xudllck, Michael D., Ferguson, Ferg R., Lane, Linda L., Auerbach, Marilyn F., Bass, Walt, Engelbart, DougLas C., Barde.an, Beauregard &., Hardy, Wartln E., Hopper , J. D., (rby, Charles H., Jernlaan, Mil E., Lehtman, Harvey 0., North, Jeanne B., Norton, Ja.es C ., Page, Cindy, Paxton, William H., Peters, Jeffrey C., Ra tliff, Jake, Row, Barbara E., Van De Riet, Edwi n K. (Ed), Van Nouhuys, Dirk II., Victor, Kenneth H. (Ken), Wallace, Donald C. (Smokey)' Watson, RJchard ..... , Andrews, Don I./SRI-ARC' Sub- Collect.loRs: SRI-ARC; Clerk: JFV; Ori~in: <VALLEE>A~T.NLS;9, t-DEC-72 16:28 JFV ;
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( MJOUR NAL>13110.NLS;1. 1 - DEC-72 18 :01 XXX; .HJOURNAl' "JFV 1-DEC-72 16:35 13110"; T1~le: .HED~"MLS Command statistics I Current
~ implementation an~ Plans. ll; AutnOr(a): Vallee, Jac~ues F.IJFV;
} Distribution: Agen~, station, Hoff~an , Carol B •• Lee, Susan R., Michael, Elizabeth K., Dornbueh, Charles F., ARC. Gues~ 0 •• Feinler , Elizabeth J. (Jake), HandbooK , Au gme ntation Research , Kelley. Ki r k E., Meyer. N. Dean, BY rd, Kay F., Pra~her. Ralph, White , Jimes E. (Jim), Val lee, Jacques F., Kaye, Diane S., Rech, paUl, Kud lick. Michael D., Ferguson . Fer~ R •• Lane, Linda t., Auerbach, Marilyn F •• Bass, Walt, Engel bart, Dou~lae c., Hardeman, Beauregard A., Ha r dy, Kartin E. , Hopper , J. D., Irby , Charles H., Jernigan , Mil E., Lehtman , Harvey G. , North, Jeanne B., Norton, James C., Page, Cindy, Paxton, Wi lliam H., Peters , Jeffrey C., Ratliff, Jake, Row , Barbara E., Van De Hie t. Edwin K. (Ed), Van NOUhUYs , Di r k H. , Victor, Kenneth E. (Ken) , Wallace , Donald C. (Smokey), Watson. Richard W., An~rew s , Don I./SRI~ARCi SUb - collections: SRI-ARC; Clerk: JFV; .IGD=O; . SNF =72; . MCH=65; .TABSTOPS =o,1 6, 24,32,40,4B,S6 J 64i
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After the ICGe meetin~ DOU~ aasi£ned me to Work un~er Paul in the gathering of performance statistics . Accordin~lY I have begun some proKra m changes that people 8hoUl~ know about although they are still pr eliminary -see (LJOU HNAL , 12793.1 and (lJOURNAL. 12800,1- I have also taken a look at some information gathering commands that were al r eadY in the system. The purpose of t his note is to report on the status of all this.
1. CURRENT PLANS. ) There is a new command in NLS that is intended for general use and ie
called~ ~{o to} f{requency statistics}
This command curren~lY has two sUbmodes. RESET and DISPLAY. The first one re_initializes a ma trix in~o Which we store the command frequency cou~ters. The second one diSPlays the counters in a very rough form that won 't be meaningful to you for a While (until we decide on the most appropriate waY to for mat this as a table for gene ral use). The next step, before more detailed de!i~n is attempted, is for Pau l an d me to begin usin g t his mechanism in some test sitUations and define the most Profitable lessons we could draw from it . We'll welcome your i deas an that.
II. NLS PE RFORMANC E MEASURES : AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE. While dig~inK in the da rk recesses of NCTRL lIve f ound an obscure command called
e{xecuteJ W{SI Measurements} The si~n1ficance of the ancient symbo l "WSI" has apparently been lost, but BOme old~timers remember an early tradition about this command, and it .oes liKe this:
"Back in the Old daYS ( ••• ) the time stamp on each character wa9 r eturned along with the character. NoW, with big characters, the time stamP i3 inclUded in the "character" only if a monitor OPtion is inv~ked. (Charles Irby, I'm tOld , knows about this OPtion) APParently, this option is not ~urned on now, BO the command described ( ••• l Cannot do its thing. "
The command (ew) causeS NLS to display the average time (tor t he whole ) seSsion) required before a character typed by the user is given to the
NtS program. A OA returns t o the previous state.
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In addition to the above , the real and jOb times r equired t o execute various type s of NLS commands can be cOllected and saved on a file,
) Which must later be pr ocesse~ bY ~ use r orogram t o interpret and format the results. This is invoked bY:
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O{o to) U{s~ Measurements) Begin is then the defaUlt, e{nd) stops t he measurements an~ writes the file whose name WaS deClared at Be~in time. A sampling interval 1n minutes is also requested. I intend to spend some tine trying these programs (although the¥ do not quite dO what Paul and I need) with a view of possibly merging them with the new st.tistics . As an old Journal article puts it,
"each of these meaSu rement tech niq ue s was added to NLS ~ t diffe~' ent times a nd 1n response to differen t questions we were aSking about system actiVity. No a tte~pt wa s made to integrate neW measurement facilitie s wi th extant one s, eo itl s a mot ley lot."
III. STATUS 0. IMPLE MENTATION . The current experimental system (rel-nls) has both the I'goto freoUency" command - with a display problem te mporarilY preventin g output fro m t hiB version- and t he 'I gato Use Me asurements" commands Where two earli e r bugs haVe now oeen fixed . It generates a file that we ' ve successfully printed out.
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on .y trip to BSD 1 learned that theIr is t o be a brie~ln~ on the BASE~[SSIONANALYSlS on ~he 13 o~ dec.lt would seeM like a good one tor the likes of a~ barnuM to hear since troM yhat I could ~ell this bas now expanded in scope to inclUde all forms of information tran8~er abd sounds a lot like AHI.
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) (JI31U ) l-DEC-7213:43 ; Author( s ): McNal'lUlra, John L./JLM; Dlstrlbu1:ion: Bethke, WillLam P./WPB; S ub-Co Llections: RADC ; Clerk.: JLM;
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CHt 3-DEC-72 10:49 13112 Sta~ement Names on PROGRAM statemen~s
Don .. Wlth regard to Doua's suggestlon about havl"" nantes on PROGRAM statements (WJOURNA L .. 13099, 1}, how hard would that be to cnanv,c? What ahuut i~noring the name? -- Charles.
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) (JI 3 11 2 ) 3-DEC-72 10: 49j Title: Autho r( s ): Irby, Charles H./CHt; Distribution: Andrews, Don I./DIA; S ub- Co llec tions: SRI-ARC; Clerk: CHI;
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ORC 2-DEC-72 14:19 1 3 113 ~owards a pleasant 1uture.
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It 1s look inA,: as if the N!iC p roject Is g oing to become a much heavier user o~ ~he Ne twork tLnd that, since my concerns are with documentation, [ wilt be relying on the NIC much more.
Additionally, my interests Include the psychology o~ COID p ut e r use (man-machine interfacing ), which the ARC is rather (I g ather) enthuSiastIcalLy studyin~.
Two things come of~ of these £acts .
It it is possible and/or convenient. [ wouLd like to be on any on-LIne distribution lists ~o non-sensItive In10rlllo.tloo. That Is, [ would lIke to be able to follow ~he ARC's work, unobtrusively as possIble. be extremely appreciative.
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The ARC 's work seems to me to be in ways that Al research is not. immediate applicability.
irlterestlng a nd relevant I suppose it is the
Tbe second is that 1 would like to he able to r'complain tl (or rather, suggest operatlonal improvements} ~requently, but paln"lessly (painless to you, that is). You all are unusually receptive t10 use'r-feedback, but recurrent "complaInts" are no-doubt hard to dea~ wIth.
I .. ould like to be constructive (1~ will end up makin g my
Job easier, after all) rather than bothersome .
[ thInk that s hort, concise Journal notes are the best way or accomplIshIng this g oal, but i~ there are styles, approaches, areas, or wh~tever that you pre~er (or dislike)
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JBP 2-DEC-72 11:41 13114 pho ne book meDlo 1
Nancy: The "phone book" project should begin by me getting the Information i hll.ve down on pape r a sendina it to you as a drat 't rfc, then you should review it ~or style and correctness and add D,ny .lnfor(llatlon you can easi ty g et or have on hand. i expect that thI s wi It be the -first round of a perIodic document but that the period will be on the order or J to 6 ~onthg. My datD Jg a little stale sInce j haven~ made inquires lately but 1 think that only menas that some newer thIng s wIlt set let out. -- Jon.
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Author(s}: Postely Jon athan B./J8P; SUb-Collections: NIC; Clerk: JBP;
JNM 2 - DEC-7 2 17:35 13115 KLB TESTING THE JOURNAL
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RESPONSE TO YOUR 131 07
OMeG NOW S URVEYI NG UCSD-CC AGAIN - TRANKS t BUT IT CALLS US ALOHA -HYMN
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De ar Jeanne and Dick , J keep get~ing hard copy o~ the Journal documents wh i ch r
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Dave : Does the TIP recog nize the b r eak sianal from a te r minal? 1 have t he I mpression that it does not, based on n ot very extensi v e exper I men ts .1 til the 3 terminals we presently hav e at SAAC . [ t-
seems li ke an i deal thing t o us e as an escape to command mode when a ter~inat Is In bi n ary input mode. 1 ask because there has been so~e discussion here about rerouting one 01 o ur data li nes throu~h the Net as a termina~ on one or the T I P's ports (vla a cable, not a phone Ilne). I f we did this, we wou l d want to be able to cont r ol the connec~lon automaticly rath er than manually , b ut we wou l d oeed the bi n ary connect i o n. Anothe r p r ob l em that I c an see is th e dlsorderiyne 9 s of the T TP 's " OPEN " messag es . .... BU7 1
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Author{s): Owen, A. D. (Huz)/ADO; Keywords: break; Sub-Collections!
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~he pr~ Qramming In TENEX ~o alto. reading o~ the tist o~archIved~ltes for your dIrectory in NLS Ls done; the NLS part Is ptunned but ~alrly low on the stack. If you want ~o look at the list un retain your sta~e in NLS, use ~[oto] e[xec] Cft
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(Jl 3 1 2 t) 4 - DEC-72 8 : 44 ; T itle : Aut bo r( s ): Van No u huys , Dirk H ./ DVN ~
Distribu tJ on: Crocke r. Davi d K., Auerbach , Ma rilyn F., Ne i gus , Nancy J ./ dhc mf a nJn ; S ub-Coltect l ons : SR I-A RC ; Clerk: DVN;
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JEANE, IN THE PAST WE HA V E GOTTEN COPIES OF TilE BON OUARTERLY
RErORT, ErTHER FROM TilE NIC OR FROW BnN, r DONT REMEMBER . WELL 1 HAVE HAD A REQUEST FOR THE LAST SUCR ~EPORT AND NOTICE THAT OUR LIDRARY ONLY HAS BON QUARTERLY REPORTS UP THRU 31 DEC 7l C#12J . DO YOU HANDLE THE DI STRIBUT I ON OF THE ABOVE, OR SlfOULD r CONTACT BSN DTRECTLY? ERNIE .
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RWW 5-DEC-72 11:08 13123 The S tart or a Semlnur Series
1 woulrt lIke to set up 8 seminar series which will meet once a week to hear about and discuss issues about our work system etc .
The series will start Wed . Dec 13 and unless there are serIous conflicts meet each Wed . at 3:00 thereafter untJl we ~un out of topics.
Paul ~ ech has a g reed to g l_ve the fIrst one on the Bub,Ject:
Why We Have to Put Li~jts on Computer Access and a Suggestion about what to Do About rt
Harvey Lehtma n wilt gi v e the ~econd one on Dec 2J entItled:
Cleanin g Up Dirty Wash a discussion ot NLS documentation and related subjects
Anyone interested In a topic is invited
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(J1 3123) 5 - DEC- 721 1: 08; Tit l e: Au1hor(s): Watson , Richar d Y./ RYW ; Di stribution: Asent , Stat Lon, Ho~f~aD , Carol B., Lee , Susan R. , Michael , elizabeth K. , Dornbush, Cha rles F ., ARC , Guest 0 ., Feinter, Elizabeth J .. (Jake), Handbook , Aup;menta-tio n Research , Kelley, Kirk E., Weye r, N. Dean, Byrd , Kay F ., Prathe r, Ralph , White, James E . (Ji~), Val l ee , Jacques F ., Kaye , DLane S ., Rech, PQul, Kudlick , Michael D., Fe r g uson, Per~ R., Lane, Linda L., Au e rbach, Var ilyn F ., Bass , Wa lt, Enge lbart, Doup;lu9 C., Hardeman , Beaurega r d A., Jiardy, Wartln F. ., Hopper , J. D., [ rby , Char l es ft ., Jernlpan , Mi l E ., Lehtman, Harvey G., No rth , Jean ne B., No r ton , James C., Page, Cindy , Paxton , WIlliam ll., Peters , Je~trey
C., Ratllt:f, Jake, Row , Ba r bara E., Van De Rlet, Edwin K.o ( Ed) , Van Nouhuys, DIrk ft ., Vl.ctor, Kenneth E . ( Ken' , Wallace , Dona ld C . ( Smokey ), ~atson, R i chard W.o, And r ews, Don T./SRI-ARC; SUb-Collections: SRI -A RC; Clerk: LLL; O r i~in: (LANE>J .o; " 5-0EC-7 2 10:59 LLL ;
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MDK 4-DEC-72 12:03 t 3 1 24 Response to (1 305 5 ,): Request for Comment s o n Dasia n Review Process ..
Dick ... In response to your note on des i g n review procedur es ( 13055,):
It's my opinion that the desl a D process requires the foltow l nA Ingred l e n's :
I ) there should be ~ou r reco~nJzed sta~e8 In tl, e design process i
2 ) at the end o~ eac h stage there should he a review by a comm J tt ee se t up tOI" that p ur pose;
3 ) only a£ t ~r al l ~our stages reviewed and co~pteted s houl d proceed .
o~ des i g n arc success .ful ly implementation (i. e ., codin g )
r'm Bure you 'll r eco g nize that the implemen t ation process also requIres reviews, because Ilot everythin g about the deB l ~n can be anticipated In the design p r ocess . In this note, however, the question at how to handle ~he ~evlew of the Implementatlon p rocess I s not covered . On ly that o~ the deslg n process.
The :four s1.ag es o~ the des i g n are ~hese:
0 ) state~ent o~ overal~ o bjecti v es ,
Jncludin g how the desl~n ~lt8 in with othe r completed, on-~o'og , or anticipated projects;
b) st at emen t o~ " e xternal" speci~icatlonat
i . e ., bo th how the proposed feature wi lt look t o t he users of the system, and wbat interlaces are r equi r ed ( u.nd h ow th ey wou~d work) amon g ",aJar cMpo n ents of ~he system .
I.e. a dep i ction of how the co~ puter wIll be prog r ammed to accomplis h the s t ated ~oa l s .
d) 8ta~ement of ~est p rocedures ,
L.e., how will the implementation be tested, how will ARC determ in e at what po int In ~ime It is appro p rIate to
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instull th e new p rocedures In the ope rational syste~f etc.
The r ev i ew c omm i ttee a nd Its "function would be as -toll ows :
The co mmitt ee should be composed of ~enlor me .. be rs 01 ARC,
and a nyone else they wish to ha ve as co -members o~ their team, including persons "rom outside ARC.
A revi e w should be he ld at the cnd ot eac h des l s n stage.
The committee s hould receiv e In writIn g the appropriate desLMn 8ta t e~ents, a n d s houl d ta ke n lew days t o study the design before holdin g the r ev Iew.
The revi ew should not be a rubber s t~mp p ro cess .
The committee s hould have the autho rity to tell th e des i ~n er8 to r c - do part o r all o~ the design be~ore
p roceeding to the next s tage . (Any re- wo rking of th e des i g n would 01: course be s ubject to furthe r revi ew.)
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WDK 4- DEC- 12 12:03 1 3 124 Request tor Comments on Oesl~n Review
(J1 3 1 24) 4-0 EC-7212:03; Title: Author( s) : Xud(lck , Mlch~el D./MDK ; Dlstribu tjon: Watson , R ich~rd W./ rww ~ Sub- Collections : SR l-ARC; Clerk: N:OK; Orl~in: (KUDLICX)OP-SREVNDX . KLSi2, 4 - DEC-7 2 12:00 MDK ;
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MFA 5-DEC~72 9:37 13125 How to spend $35 at Xmas
ARC has obtained about &35 from SR r for a Xmas party. DIrk and r thoug ht jt mi g ht be a bit more appropriate (and nIce?) to InsTead or squanderlnJ;J thut vast amount <l"t money on Xmas cookies and goodIes ~or ARC t o " adopt " a child In North Vietnam with the money. What think you?
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(.113125 ) 5 - DEC-72 9 : .:17; Title: Autho r (s ): AUerbach, Marilyn F . /MFA; O l stributJon: Ag ent , Stat i on , KoJ'.tmnn, Cal"ol B . , Lee, S usan R . , Wl chael, Blizabeth K. , Dornbush , CharleA F. , ARC , Gu est 0 ., Fel n ler , El i zabeth J . ( Jake), Ha n dbook , Aug mentation RCSCfLrch , Kelley , Klrk E ., M.eyer , N. Dean , Byrd, Kay F ., Prather, Ralph , White , Ja~eA E . ( Jim) , Vatlee , JucQues F. , K~ye, Diane S . , Rec h t Paul, Kudlick , Wlchael D., Fe r guson, Pcrr: R .. , Lan"" LJn da L., Auerbach, Marilyn F., Bass , Wal1:, Enge lhart, Dou~las C., Ha r cteman , Beau reg ard A. , Hardy , Martin E., lIopp e r, .1 . D. , Irby, Charles H . , Jerni g an , fl i t S ., Leht .. an, Harv ey G. , North, Jean ne B. , No r ton, .J am es e . t Pa p,: e , Cindy , Paxton , Wi l ll.am H., Peters , Jet'frey
C ., Ratll:!:! , Jake, RoW', Barbara B., Van De Riet , Bdw l n K. (Ed ), Van Nouh u ys , Uirk R., Victor , Kenneth E . ( ken) , Wallace , Dona l d C. ( Smokey ), 'Watson , R Ichard 91 . , Andrews , Den I. /srl-a r c S Ub- Collections: SRT - ARC ; Cl e 'rk : MFA;
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( don't know how outdated your In~ormatlon Is, bu~ maybe we should check up on the oldest , I.c. received be .'fore x date "for some value o'f :II: (0.9 RDB wou1.d say). Cer-ta.l n t y we could sp II tit east ond west coast, I mean , east and we81" halves. I'm all .tor accuracy .. •• N I
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(J13126) 4 -DEC-726:34; Tltle: Author(s): Nei g us, Nancy J./NJN; Digtrlbu~ion : Postel, Jonathan D. /JBP( ,t is snowing today); Sub-Collections! NIC~ Cle rk: NJN;
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111 t COUG HLIN ASKED ME TO DROP YOU A NOTE TO REWIND YOU TO GIVE Ar~ THAT LIST OF 10 POTFNTIAL PAGER CUSTOMERS . ASLO ( WOULD LIKE TO KN OW WHAT STATE RSYS WAS LEFT IN. DID YOU FIX THB BUG ABOUT
.'PING OUT LAST PAGE ON TAPE? rs nOT PRQBLBV FIXED CLEAN? IS O'UR SYMBOLIC UP TO DATE? , WANT TO' STA'RT EXTENSIVB TBSTING SOON . PLEASE LEAVE WP A NOTE . THANKS - TED
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(J1 3127 ) 4 -D EC-729: 16 . Author(a): Stro tlo, Ted R./TRS ; Distribution: Walll1ce, Donald C. ( SlIIo ,key )/DCW; Sub-Col lectlon s : lHC; Clerk: TRS ;
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81 AGArN, SORRY r FORGOT YOU WANTED TO TALK TO ME YESTERDAY WHEN I CALLED ABOUT THE NLS COURSE . RE ALJ ZED SAME AFTER , GUN UP . WOULD YOU ALSO SEND US COP f ES OF THE BSYS DOCUMENTS AS YOU UPDATE T HEM . OF CO(JRSE WE 'W011.L D PREFER THEY AS PILES WI! COULD LIST OfRFCTLY ON OUR LPT . IVE FORGOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT YOU W6R£ GOING TO DO AROUT THE TAPE nJNOE:X" . PLEASE REFRESH MY AtEWORY . WE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF INCHES OF W~ITE STUFF . GUESS ILL HAVE TO DUY SNOW TIRES AFTER ALL . SEE VOU • TED
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(Jl3L28 J 5-0EC-728:46, Author(s): Strollo, Ted R .. /T RS , Distribution: WaLLace, Donuld C. ( S~okey )/DCW; Sub-CollectIons: NIC; C l e rk: TRS;
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WL8 4-DEC-72 14:37 Reque s t ~or Action on Local LOG IN LI.I~atlons
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r lUI gettin~ exceedin g ly pissed o:fJ' a.t my Inability to s et lo g ged In to the sys~e," to do work durin @; my normal working hours.
r understand the problems which the current procedures are desi g ned to a.lleviate, but nonetheless c~n not continue ~o acce p t these operatlonal procedures which are preventing me frOM doing my assi Mned work.
[ spent quite SON e time tryin g to log In today whi~e the load avera ~e was les s than 1 or 2; in the process I dId SYSTATs to see who was on and -t'Gund that there were only 10 (ye s TEN) actual local on-line users, 3 loca.l de t ached .Jobs (PRIN T ER , BACKGROUND, and Wallace runnin g SUPERWATCH', I Xerox user dialed-in and I NDNLS user . Smokey blew-up when I asked why tbe syetem s aid 15 local u s ers ""'re on when only 14 were visible (includin g the detached jobs and Xerox), so there was no e~planation tor this discr e pancy; but the Major point is thA~ there were actually only s lots tor 10 online ARC users -- tess than 30~ 0' the group -and I urg e the EN e to ~ Ive ~his tAct ~he most serious consJderation.
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(JI3129) 4-DEC-7 2 14:37; Titl e : Author(s): Bass, Wo.lt/WLB ; Distribution : Enae~ ba rt, Doug l as C. , rrhy , Cha rl es H., Wa t son, Richa rd ",' ., Norton, James C./EWC ; Sub-Collections: SRr- ARC EM.C; Clerk : WLlJ ;
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D.. C . Wald en Bolt Be ranek and Newman Jnc. 50 Woulton St reet Cnmbri d@e , Massachusetts 01238
Dear Mr. Walden:
NDM 19 DEC 72 ~4:31AN 13130
Stan~ord ~ese~ rch [nstl~u~e
Augmen~atlon Research Ceoter 333 Ravenswood Avenue Menlo Park , California 94025
T have been workIng on ~o r.atting tbe BBN TIP Users' GuIde ~or outp~t on microfilm. I hope to be able to show you hard copy of u few ot the sections in three Weeks.
In the mean time, l 11.'1'11 sending you a copy o-t some o-f ~he NLS vers ion of the TJP URer's GuIde fornla tted b)' th e Ou tput Processo r and printed by ou r lIne printer. I tried to co~e as close as
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indent the ~lrst line o£ each paragraph (statement), you decide 't'o work with NLS, such indentatIon might
confuse interpretation ot the hierarchical struc~ure o~ the ~ile . S uch Indentation could easily be done Ru~omatical ly if you so choose .
To £urther take advantage of our ~lle structure SystON, r allowed level indentIng Lor some levels. These ef£ects are ohvlous on psPte 4. Tbls too is easIly controllable.
We would recommend h~ndlin3 foo tnotes by collecting them JI1 a section in ~he back with BPproprLate reference in the text. However, we can p ut them on the bottom o~ each page it you want ..
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(J1 3IJO) Author(s): Neyer , ~. Dean/NOM Oistr l but lon: Walde n, David C. , Watson , Ri cha r d W./ dcw3 rww ; Sub-CoLlections: NIC ; C le~k: NOM;
18- DEC-72 10:J9 ; Title:
Ori~in : (NBYER}LETTER . NLS ; J , 18- DEC- 72 10:36 NDM ;
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