Lecture 15 – mantra 12 ( mayavada )

We will discuss why impersonalism is strongly condemned by our acharyas

Impersonalism in scriptures is transitional , not final

Karma kanda , people when follow Vedas they are elevated because they have faith in scriptures they move to mode of goodness

Upanishads move one more step forward , they take people from material form to spiritual form – Jnana kanda , they don’t teach impersonalism as final conclusion but impersonalism is there as a transition .

Mayavada is a subsection of impersonalism

Mayavada divides reality into practical & transcendental

It says all form is temporary & in actual there is no form

They divide scriptures in higher level and lower level , mayavda creates a system by which all contradictions as treated as lower level .

.Due to abuse of karma kanda, people were killing animals , so budhha came to stop this and spread his religion .Buddhism has spread very widely and to bring people back to vedic fold, sankaracarya taught mayavada brahman & advaitavada . after sankaracarya came ramanujacarya who taught dvaitatavada & countered mayavada .

Madhayacharya taught about jiva – jagat jagdisa .

Impersonalist

Mayavadis

Bg 7.24,9.14- 15

Offence to form of the god

Brahmavadis

Bg 12.3-5

No offence to the form of God

Caiatnay mahaprabhu talked about acintya bhedabhed , simlulatenously one and different , in quality one , in quantity different .and the relationship between jiva nd jagadisha can be established by bhakti

Two questions which are diffuclt for mayavada

1) If everything is Brahman , where does mithya illusion comes from ?2) How does illusion overcome Brahman ?

Mayavadi say reality is so complex that we cannot understand it . anirvacaniya

Apparaent scriptural contradictions

Mayavadi divide it into true & false , and when run into logical problems they call it anirvacaniya

Vaisnavas say everything is true , but we cant understand that simultaneously , that is acintya

The true understand of relationship between jiva and god is that jiva is nitya krsna dasa

Upanishads are a stepping stone in the vedic master plan , Impersonalists are right that material forms and varieties are false but wrong on absolute truth .

Modern mayavada is a dangerous hodpe podge khicadi made of following elements

1) Grains of impersonalism from Upanishads2) Sugar of social service from Christianity 3) Spice of nationalism taken from Indian independence movement4) Envy of Krishna from the hearts of the conditioned souls

Disasters caused by mayavada : deprives soul of his natural higher taste of bhakti & makes material life appear more attractive than spiritual life