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Imperious Presented On An Invicta Show?

It was reported that Invicta does not own Imperious, and for this reason they couldn't be

presented together with Invictas on an Invicta show. Looks like things have changed. The

Invicta watch show for Saturday, December 04, 2010 at 9:00 PM ET, will have the Imperious

Men's Gearhead Swiss Quartz Chronograph 18K Gold-Plated Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch -

J179990.

http://www.shopnbc.com/OnAir/Program...howid=12345315

Did Invicta recently purchase Imperious and now owns them?

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They've owned the brand all along and Invicta Watch Company of America, Inc filed with the

USPTO for a registered trademark for Imperious on April 28, 2009. Jim has stated that they

operate independently including design, manufacturing and repair services. How arms length

they actually are has been open to speculation.

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I believe they do indeed own Imperious.

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They've owned the brand all along. Jim has stated that they operate independently including

design, manufacturing and repair services. How arms length they actually are has been open

to speculation.

Then why was the statement made in the first place that they didn't own them?

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Watch out! Another Invicta conspiracy theory! Man, they are out to get us!

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Then why was the statement made in the first place that they didn't own them?

When and by whom?

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I don't think it's anything major Jerry. This morning on the Invicta show with

Daniel & Jill at 10 am PST .... they aired an Ed Hardy Men's Warrior, along with

the Invicta line-up.

http://www.shopnbc.com/OnAir/Default.aspx?view=showlisting&showid=12345311

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that brand has always been under the invicta umbrella, and for unknown reasons their business

strategy was not to initially put this out in the open .

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From July of this year:

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Well guys and gals, it's been a LONG road, and now you have a taste of how long it takes to

produce some watches. For the first time you are now seeing the finalized production pieces

for the first model to appear in the Imperious line: The Gearhead.

Here's a quick breakdown of what the Imperious brand brings to the table:

Exclusive to ShopNBC collectors

Swiss Made

Superluminova for all luminescent material

Sapphire crystals

Hand finished, hand built in Switzerland

Unique designs on the cutting edge with an eye for minute detail

All models and variations will be limited production

Some select models will be numbered Limited Editions

Because these are hand built watches that are Swiss Made, the production times are

outlandish. Anywhere from 3 months to 9 months for any and all models depending on the

complication of construction and movements selected.

The brand awaits delivery of at least 2 more models before they will debut. While this may

change, that's the last I heard. The brand will debut exclusively on "WTWJ", and when they

have enough models and quantities, they will likely move into their own branded shows fairly

quickly.

As many of you know, Invicta is backing the brand, but the production is not in current

Invicta factories, and the designer is not an Invicta designer. They do however have the

power to access movements no one else can get (and in quantities no one else typically gets),

and has access to incredible materials and factories. A first time watchmaker is not going to

be able to produce on this level, and do so being able to offer acceptable pricing. Without

Invicta, these watches would realistically sell for about TRIPLE the anticipated prices because

of the costs that would be associated with a new brand trying to offer this type of

manufacturing as well as offering movements like ETA, Sellita, Valjoux etc...

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This is old news...

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Watch out! Another Invicta conspiracy theory! Man, they are out to get us!

I agree with Rick...

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Did anyone else realize that tonight's show was NOT an Invicta show?

It was an event show that showcased Jacques Lemans, Christian Audiger, Invicta, Imperious,

Oniss, Ingersoll and a couple others as well.

Same for all the watch shows all week long during this event..

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It was the Holiday Must Watch EVENT! It was closed before I could point this out.

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The ShopNBC program guide lists the 9:00 PM ET hour as an Invicta show, and the Imperious

was the only non Invicta product.

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It has been said all along that Imperious was owned by Invicta

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What Lexus is to Toyota, Imperious is to Invicta

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The ShopNBC program guide lists the 9:00 PM ET hour as an Invicta show, and the

Imperious was the only non Invicta product.

In each show since yesterday, we began these Holiday blowout items (I forgot the name we

attached to the offers). These offers might not be in the same brand as the concept show.

You might remember on Friday night... ALL Invicta show... Ed Hardy watch was the piece

offered.

Invicta does not own Ed Hardy.

Out of a two hour show, Michael stepped out for 2 minutes for me to present the Ed Hardy, we

then went back to Invicta. Just like tonight's show with the Imperious. No difference.

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In each show since yesterday, we began these Holiday blowout items (I forgot the name we

attached to the offers). These offers might not be in the same brand as the concept show.

You might remember on Friday night... ALL Invicta show... Ed Hardy watch was the piece

offered.

Invicta does not own Ed Hardy.

Out of a two hour show, Michael stepped out for 2 minutes for me to present the Ed Hardy, we

then went back to Invicta. Just like tonight's show with the Imperious. No difference.

I think it's a great idea to throw a different brand into Invicta shows once in awhile. The

variation is good, it breaks it up. I started this thread because when the Imperious first came out

it was stated they couldn't be on an Invicta shows, because they weren't an Invicta watch. By

having Imperious and Ed Hardy watches on Invicta shows gives the customer more choices.

A different brand also gives Mike a break to caffeine up.

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Invicta does not own Ed Hardy.

Or do we?

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As I recall the very first show, it was made clear that Imperious was under the Invicta umbrella

but would maintain their own mfg, designers, etc. Not sure why this is an issue??? What does it

matter if the Shop tosses in something different?

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LOL !!

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the topic that never dies lol seems like this thread has run its course

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Or do we?

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Or do we?

LOL...Not that I care for Ed Hardy......Okay, so is someone gonna clarify this before its becomes

just another joke or rumor? Funny to tease......sure...why not....as far as I can find...doesn't

specify about the watch department......

In 2002, Hardy licensed Ku USA, Inc. to produce a line of clothing based on his art. Within two

years, the collection had drawn the interest of Saks companies. Hardy and Ku USA formed

Hardy Life LLC, which holds the trademark ownership as well as the copyrights to all his

images.

In 2004, Christian Audigier licensed the rights to produce the Ed Hardy clothing line, which is

based on Hardy's imagery. Prior to the Ed Hardy clothing line, Audigier was the Head Designer

at Von Dutch Originals, which marketed the imagery of Kenny Howard. Audigier has attempted

to replicate the marketing techniques employed by Von Dutch Originals, by marketing directly

to celebrity clients and by opening stores in high profile fashion districts. Ed Hardy stores are

located in New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Honolulu, Tucson, Dubai, Kuwait, Kuala Lumpur,

Bangkok and Mumbai.[2]

In May 2009, Iconix Brand Group announced that the they had acquired a 50% interest in Hardy

Way, LLC, the owner of the Ed Hardy brand and trademarks.[6] The Company paid $17 million

for its interest in Hardy Way, consisting of $9 million in cash and $8 million in stock. In Find all

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stock pursuant to an earn-out based on 2009 royalties received by Hardy Way. Hardy Way

estimates that 2009 royalty revenue will be approximately £10 million.

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Or do we?

Can't help but instigate??? LOL, things were too quiet!!!

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That Imperious was a great deal. Who cares who owns Imperious

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