J.E.Hooimer's hysteria(?) 11/22/63; his errors and ignorance 11W 3/17/92

In going over some of my "subject" files Dave krone made copies of 109060: 56, 57,

58 and 5J, timed, all p.m., 2;21;5:15; 1:43 and 4:01. Dave's chief interest was that beftre

aoover started dictating-ihieOne of these memoe to his top brass, Serial 5R: /ile had con-

cluded and told RFK that they had captured the assaaaho said "we" had the man. The FIAL

:lid not have Oswald.

Mot remembering why I'd made extra copies of the' FBI records for duplicate filing I

read them again. Thepave other importances. One is that Hoover was wrong about just about

every fact he stated in the memos on what he had told RFK, James J. Raley, Secret Service

Director, and Norbert 5chloi, Assistant Director, DJ Office of Legal Counsel. (Schlei was

preparing proclamations apparently to cover every contingency.)

That he would say the thing ho not only said but would make a record of them when he

had to know first that he did not really know and second that at those early times he did not have to say anything as a matter of pact. lie did say that ho "thought" they had the man but nothing else is qualified in any way when one would think that normal care and prudence would have impelled his not to be so unequivocal and to indicate that it was too

soon to be positiive about any information he reported. I think that he did what I'm sure he'd have disciplined a special agent for doing

indicates that he wan hysterical. We can only conjecture why. Two possibilities if not Alittcatcd

ptobabilitios are that his and the FAll's reputations would suffer and that he would have

been expected to have been able to prevent the assassination. (Which, had the assassin

been Oswald, would have been true.)

He told Rowley It one of Rowley's agents had been killed. He had the shots or the 4th and 5th floors but not from the 6th. and by a Winchester

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Rowley believed the assassination was by Cjban and Mexican "extrembets." 4 Hoover believed the Klan, the F1'CO (Oswald was a "nut" he extreme pro-61astro

crowd"); and Hoover said that "all assassins" are anarchists or Communists. Hoover and Sehe4-D,ackeLSchlei referred repeater o assassins in the plural, or said

there had been a oonspirocy. okiot44 4, ic.41-4 rtkliz 1 44,,/

He said that tae blocks 4/the TSBD Oswald had shot at two cops, killing one. Ho said that the TSBD was "filled with people watching the parade."

He said that for several drys the FBI had been getting reports of thilents against

1.146-41#6?..- °' ‘h He reported what could be taken asaEone conversation about the assassination over-

heard by a Woodner apartments phone operator. I recall no records refloctking this.

If the FBI had gotten reports of throatfrom WU I recall nothing in its or the Com-

mission's records indicating it reported them to the Commiseion.

The memos reflect ighorance and very poor judgement iinot also hysteria.

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I called Mr. Janos J. tonley, ate of the ttecret :Services • ' ' to offer our aselefAnct s I sdirlsed t~4. Itooley that our Lillie Cfflcs : was already In caged with th, 4! trct Ferrite In Pains anti that er# . 2.7'7'. -would render every poet arzl stone*. • ...‘:s..•

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the fourth floor of a butiOlne ar -1 evils had been found in the buildlor, the these were Winchester - apparently a Winchester rill, was used; and that the banding was virroundod. • .

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‘E a proclamation for uGe by the pew rrestderd and wonkred 111 could .- _.

;, tell Mai 'Mother I had any 1.-nowledge Julio what kind of people aurdered

4 the President. lia indicated the form of the proclai.mtlon might depend

on whether these were taadv,en, disappointed office sickens, represents

some polUlcal point of viva, were segregationist madmen„ or Just who

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tha man who killed the 1-reeldrri In Valles but la lad ar4 finitely ..• • '•-' --

been established. I adeiend Lir. (chic) that a Here t....swald spent -.•-•

groyne years lin iluuain, atilicr4-11 ho was born America; that he tried !.• •

unsuccessfully to renounce Ids trail' lean attzensbi,p; end hen ramie :.-/„.

back here. I stated our kite: est in Oswald came 11hvit from tbs fact --

that be had been associated wilb the fair Play for Cube Committee; •':::::-. -

that he was arrested in Neor es leans some months iq,,o for henlIng out - -

4.. -leaflets In beau of that c-oontittee. I told Mr. Schlei that licwalcl was

working In the building li Om which the ghats were tired; that we have

t.4 , - the rifts and I eamti elicit, found in the building in which the rain will

Toler. elitployelL I said L'swald apparently Left this building and a block or 1 _ - -

--two- away two police officals moved toward Min, and for no good reason —

c....... he Opened fire on them and killed one. I told Mr. lIchlel that the ca NOON.

D.Gam/ have Urwald to custody end c.e are interrogating him al the prey"! iline.....

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the suns group who opened firs in the lions of Rept et ant tti vet from -

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• -•-•• •• ler. rale that Ceolgosr, who Mlied Unaided McKinley, was •• student! • •!_!

. - of Lama Goldman and that I later prosecuted her for deportation from .

• the United rtatea. I said we did not catch up -with Emma Goldman until .

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the cominuniet viewpoint. I stated the co:m:13;111th, did not come Into the

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I Bald Oswald, if he etre the wart, would be In the crtegory

• •'• of Wing an el:Iron:le radical o.1 the left; that he was a mel.11-er of the lair

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an American but tried nnencrearfally to lose his Amoricr.n citizenship; . -

Cams beck to thte country In 1002; madt several trips to Cups; upon kit

return each time we questioned hint about what be went to Cuba for and

• ks aziwered that It was Dane of oar business. lull fait working in this ;• - -

particular builffing where hew n. employed would lend credence to the .

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over the country. 1 stated In triliornta there Is • story uhich tae borne

substance which we are eennhq dolga that a man madt a statement to

some woman at Lang Eench that the President would be askaasleated In . FP. •

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withdraw. Into himself when he in being questioned as he did this afternoon

dews Is Vallee. I said Out much deyeads upon the evidence to be obtained; - •

that the rifle has been handled by doreali et people probably - the horliding

was tilled with people welching the parade; by the time they got to the

filth floor, the rifle hail been dropped and thrown over Into a comer; there

Was indication be was eating fried shlcksn sandwiches this afternoon; we

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trying to peranede him to ealboil to a polygraph exarlinetion; and as -•••• ; • .

- soon as the body arrives In ri'ashlogtoo, we will determine wh -Aler the

- ballets have been taken out beceuee we will need that is the trials' the ,

case to He in with the empty shells found by the glan. I Wormed Me.

that at the hospital In lisiles they were not certila the bullets had baea • . takes out; that the body is going to be removed to the Dethescla Naval

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I called the Attorney General at hie home and advised him Oi

the newel/Leh announcing the free ident and Governor Connally ol Texas had been shot In Lielles, today, while touring Dallis In an open

car, and that the first newetiesh indicated the ahot -Was believed to be

lataL Thu Attorney Gannet had not prIntourly been advised of this.

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do al Dallas. Ile asked that we do whatever we could, and I told him we '4.

would get b touch with the barna Service there.

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the only Information the Vallai Office had war from the rtilo. ccordIng

to the radio In Dallae, the ilpsident and the Governor were shot at the

corner of Elm and C-oultherce streets In a motor parade going out to the,

place where they were to arrak.. Une witness said a Negro man leaned ,

out a window and matte two Omit% and the police bare the whole bulklIng surruranded. The tiesidcni and the Governor bad been taken to Parklend

- - floapital and the President Wild bleeding from the head. .

and offer astastance. )4.. tibantAirk stated he had already done so. also C• WO C.j1I6 told her. Chnalln to eatablish lir leon with the local police. • - . c....... . Da......d• fir; • - .. . . • e 41; e 1 el e, r''' —

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• . 4 •7 . • bonealed they hid ad reporled es this, I Inqaired about the Ifice ,::.'..;:r v. 4 t .. • 4 *. - . President aid Mr. Sivinklin 'old the Vies President vas In the *radi .:-.;;.: • ' " 1;•1; bat In a dills:eat ear. .=, • ., .

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dare present time. 3 stated the r-an't aurae le Lee arerwald; that be • was working In the building Ireri which the shots were fir ad that bit - - - ...._ the rresident and We Govorror; tint apparently he left On Willing and - • . a black or two away ran into tan relic. officers and, thiELtng they *ere '', by. Oi Pi to arrest him, ?hot at them and killed one of them with a side arin; that the rills had bean lett In tbnbullding.

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as he Ms been Involved in the fair Play for Cuba Committee. .1 aided • :;°' ' 4

• ia. v. Ihe Dallas pollen tiara bins donp at headquarters and 1 hare bur Agent. f•-p s4 there.

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