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Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

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Page 1: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

Ian ShepherdsonChief EconomistPantheon MacroeconomicsSeptember 11, 2015

How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening?

U.S. Rates and Europe:

Page 2: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

1. Can the Fed hike when industry is weak?

Page 3: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

2. First came the hit from collapsing oil capex…

Page 4: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

3. …And now the strong dollar is biting, hard

Page 5: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

4. …China’s slowdown is beginning to hurt too

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5. But China’s economy is not in meltdown…

Page 7: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

6. …Stock market lunacy did not infect manufacturing

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7. U.S. Consumers, meanwhile, are awash with cash…

Page 9: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

8. …Don’t be misled by “weak” nominal retail sales

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9. Auto sales are booming

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10. The housing market is recovering strongly…

Page 12: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

11. …And non-residential construction is soaring

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12. The contrast between industry and the rest is huge

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13. Most people don’t work in manufacturing…

Page 15: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

14. …And most companies don’t export anything

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15. Those which do, sell more to Europe than China…

Page 17: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

16. Unemployment is now too low for the Fed’s comfort

Page 18: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

17. …And it hasn’t stopped falling yet

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18. Even broad rate is heading for previous hike levels

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19. Hourly earnings are weak; better wage data are not

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20. Core inflation today is not the problem

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21. Some goods prices are falling; CPI is mostly services

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22. Rents likely will accelerate much further

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23. Some goods prices are immune to the strong dollar

Page 25: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

24. And Obamacare won’t depress medical costs forever

Page 26: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

25. A small rise in rates won’t kill the U.S. economy…

Page 27: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

26. …But the legacy of the credit boom lingers

Page 28: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

27. Corporates also can’t cope with prior rate peaks…

Page 29: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

28. …Gross corporate leverage remains extremely high

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29. Europe is enjoying a sustainable cyclical upswing

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30. Performance is uneven but rising tides lift all boats

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31. Structural problems remain severe…

Page 33: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

32. …But parts of the periphery have made great strides

Page 34: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

33. …And their sacrifices are paying off…

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34. …Though from a very depressed base

Page 36: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

35. But the French labour market remains sclerotic

Page 37: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

36. Deflation risks are fading…

Page 38: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

37. …But the recovery is still fragile

Page 39: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

38. So the ECB won’t be following the Fed

Page 40: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

39. EZ yields will be pulled by the U.S., but not as far…

Page 41: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

40. …So the Euro will weaken further

Page 42: Ian Shepherdson Chief Economist Pantheon Macroeconomics September 11, 2015 How will the ECB respond to Fed tightening? U.S. Rates and Europe:

40. The Great U.S. Normalization is Coming

• U.S. interest rates will soon start to rise; eventually, the Fed will have to move even if markets are volatile.

• The labor market is tightening rapidly – much faster than the Fed expected – and core inflation and wages are set to rise.

• Europe still has a business cycle, and the core Eurozone will surprise to the upside next year.

• The ECB will not follow the Fed, so the euro will weaken deflation fears will fade, and long-term rates will rise.

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