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HIP ROOFING. BCGCA3007B. Common Rafter. For a detailed explanation of determining the common rafter, review the “Gable Roof Presentation”. Problem No1 Lets warm your brain up. Calculate Underside of Beams Birdsmouth 30mm Rafter 140 x 45. Problem No1. Calculate Underside of Beams. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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HIP ROOFING

BCGCA3007B

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Common Rafter

• For a detailed explanation of determining the common rafter, review the “Gable Roof Presentation”

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Problem No1Lets warm your brain up

Calculate Underside of BeamsBirdsmouth 30mmRafter 140 x 45

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Problem No1

Calculate Underside of Beams

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Review Principles of Roofing

1. Ridges are Level2. Rafters run at 90⁰ to Wall Plate3. Hips & Valleys bisect all internal & external Corners4. Roof members are set out along centerlines

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Ridges are Level

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Golden Principles of Roofing

1. Ridges are Level2. Rafters run at 90⁰ to Wall Plate3. Hips & Valleys bisect all internal & external Corners4. Roof members are set out along centerlines

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Rafters at 90° to top plate

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Golden Principles of Roofing

1. Ridges are Level2. Rafters run at 90⁰ to Wall Plate3. Hips & Valleys bisect all internal & external Corners4. Roof members are set out along centerlines

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Hips & Valleys bisect all internal & external Corners

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Golden Principles of Roofing

1. Ridges are Level2. Rafters run at 90⁰ to Wall Plate3. Hips & Valleys bisect all internal & external Corners4. Roof members are set out along centerlines

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Roof members are set out along centerlines

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Types of Roofs

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Types of Roofs

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Types of Roofs

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Exercise 2 – Draw in Hips & Valleys

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Exercise 2

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Hips & Valleys always Bisect Corners

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Hips & Valleys always Bisect CornersThis also applies to complex roofs we will construct in Stage 3

Splay End Hip

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Review Principles of Roofing

1. Ridges are Level2. Rafters run at 90⁰ to Wall Plate3. Hips & Valleys bisect all internal & external Corners4. Roof members are set out along centerlines

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Centreline Plan Length of Hip (Z)

X = Half span = 2070

Z = √(x2) + (x2) = √(20702) + (20702)

Z = 2927

X = Half span = 2070

Z = Half span x √2

Z = 2927

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Determining Hip Roof Members

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Common Rafter

• Main Roofing Member• Calculated same method as Gable• Spaced Usually at 450mm to 600mm for Tiled

Roofs & 600mm to 900mm for Sheet Roof– This is dependant on span tables found in AS

1684.2

• Cut using a Pattern Rafter

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Determine Common Rafter

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Determine Common Rafter

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Step 1 - Solve 1m Triangle

25°

1

Rise = 1 x Tan 25° = 0.466

Rafter Length / m = 1 ÷ Cos 25° = 1.103

0.4661.103

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Step 1 - Solve 1m Triangle

25°

1

Rise = 1 x Tan 25° = 0.466

Rafter Length / m = 1 ÷ Cos 25° = 1.103

0.4661.103

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Determine Centreline LengthRidge

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Step 2 – Determine Plan LengthCentreline Length

25°

1

Plan Length= 2070

0.4661.103

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

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Step 3 – Determine Rafter LengthCentreline Length

25°

1

Rafter Length = Plan Length x Rafter Length per metre (RL/m)

Rafter Length = 2070 x 1.103

Rafter Length = 2283

0.4661.103

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

2283

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Step 4 – Determine Rise (If Required) Centreline Length

25°

1

Total Rise = Horizontal Travel x Rise per metre

Total Rise = 2070 x 0.466

Total Rise = 964

0.4661.103

2283

964

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

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Determine True Length

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Step 2 – Determine Plan LengthTrue Length

25°

1

Plan Length = ½ Span – ½ Ridge ThicknessPlan Length = 2070 – 9.5Plan Length = 2060.5

0.4661.103

2060.5Plan Length

Plan Length = Distance from Top Plate to Edge of Ridge

Ridge 190 x 19

½ Ridge = 9.5mm

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Step 3 – Determine Rafter LengthTrue Length

25°

1

Rafter Length = Plan Length x Rafter Length per metre (RL/m)

Rafter Length = 2060.5 x 1.103

Rafter Length = 2273

0.4661.103

2060.5Plan Length

2273

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Step 4 – Determine Rise (If Required) True Length

25°

1

Total Rise = Plan Length x Rise per metre

Total Rise = 2060.5 x 0.466

Total Rise = 960

0.4661.103

2283

960

2060.5Plan Length

Note – Rise is measured to pitching line only and IS NOT THE FULL HEIGHT OF THE ROOF

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Centreing Rafter LayoutRoofs are Set out by Centreline

Centring Rafters

Centering Rafters Set back by Half Span

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Centreing Rafter Layout

Centering Rafters Set back by Half Span

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Centreing Rafter Layout

Centering Rafters Set back by Half Span

Centring Rafters are determined in the same manner as Common Rafter

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Centreing Rafter Layout

Centering Rafters Set back by Half Span

Centring Rafters are determined in the same manner as Common Rafter

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Exercise – Determine Centring Rafters at 25˚

Centering Rafters Set back by Half Span

Centring Rafters are determined in the same manner as Common Rafter

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Step 1 - Solve 1m Triangle

25°

1

Rise = 1 x Tan 25° = 0.466

Rafter Length / m = 1 ÷ Cos 25° = 1.103

0.4661.103

This is the Same triangle as,•Common Rafter

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Determine Centreline LengthRidge

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Step 2 – Determine Plan LengthCentreline Length

25°

1

Plan Length= 2070

0.4661.103

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

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Step 3 – Determine Rafter LengthCentreline Length

25°

1

Rafter Length = Plan Length x Rafter Length per metre (RL/m)

Rafter Length = 2070 x 1.103

Rafter Length = 2283

0.4661.103

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

2283

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Step 4 – Determine Rise (If Required) Centreline Length

25°

1

Total Rise = Horizontal Travel x Rise per metre

Total Rise = 2070 x 0.466

Total Rise = 964

0.4661.103

2283

964

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

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Determine True Length

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True Length of Centering Rafters

•Same as Common Rafter

•Half Ridge Thickness Deducted

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Step 2 – Determine Plan LengthTrue Length

25°

1

Plan Length = ½ Span – ½ Ridge ThicknessPlan Length = 2070 – 9.5Plan Length = 2060.5

0.4661.103

2060.5Plan Length

Plan Length = Distance from Top Plate to Edge of Ridge

Ridge 190 x 19

½ Ridge = 9.5mm

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Step 3 – Determine Rafter LengthTrue Length

25°

1

Rafter Length = Plan Length x Rafter Length per metre (RL/m)

Rafter Length = 2060.5 x 1.103

Rafter Length = 2273

0.4661.103

2060.5Plan Length

2273

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Step 4 – Determine Rise (If Required) True Length

25°

1

Total Rise = Plan Length x Rise per metre

Total Rise = 2060.5 x 0.466

Total Rise = 960

0.4661.103

2283

960

2060.5Plan Length

Note – Rise is measured to pitching line only and IS NOT THE FULL HEIGHT OF THE ROOF

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Ridge Centreline Length• Used to centre Rafters• Length = Length – Number of Hip Ends x ½ Span

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Confirmation of Learning

• On A3 drawing paper draw a plan view of a roof showing

1.Centring Rafters - Centreline

2.Ridge – Centreline

Example on Next Slide

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Determine Ridge True Length

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Determine Ridge True Length

The Ridge Extends past the centre of the centring rafter by ½ Rafter thickness

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Confirmation of Learning

• On A3 drawing paper draw a plan view of a roof showing

1.Centring Rafters – Actual Thickness

2.Ridge – Actual Thickness

Example on Next Slide Rafter 35mm ThickRidge 19mm Thick

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Crown End Rafters

•Cut & Fitted Against Ridge•Act as Opposing Braces•Similar to Common Rafter•Half Rafter is Deducted

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True Length of Centering Rafters

•Same as Centreline as Common Rafter

•Half Rafter Thickness Deducted

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Crown End Rafter LayoutWhat is the Crown End Rafter Centreline Plan Length?

Crown End Rafters

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Crown End Rafter LayoutWhat is the Crown End Rafter Centreline Run?

Crown End Rafters

2070 ½ Span

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Confirmation of Learning• On A3 drawing paper draw a plan view of a roof showing

1.Centring Rafters – Actual Thickness

2.Ridge – Actual Thickness

3.Crown End Rafter - Centreline

Example on Next Slide

Rafter 35mm ThickRidge 19mm Thick

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Confirmation of Learning• On A3 drawing paper draw a plan view of a roof showing

1.Centring Rafters – Actual Thickness

2.Ridge – Actual Thickness

3.Crown End Rafter – Actual Thickness

Example on Next Slide

All Rafters 35mm ThickRidge 19mm Thick

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350

250

12535

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350

250

12535

Crown End Rafter LayoutWhat is the Crown End Rafter Plan Length?

Crown End Rafters

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350

250

12535

Plan Length

Crown End Rafter LayoutWhat is the Crown End Rafter Plan Length?

Crown End Rafters

Plan Length = Distance from top plate to edge of member

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Confirmation of Learning

Crown End Rafters

Determine Plan Length of Crown End Rafter Ridge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

CL Span is Half span CL Span is Half span

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Crown End Rafter True LayoutWhat is the PLAN Length of the Crown End Rafter

Crown End Rafter

Hip Rafters

Centering Rafters

Ridge

Plan length measuredTo edge of Centring Rafter

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Confirmation of Learning

Crown End Rafters

Determine Plan Length of Crown End Rafter Ridge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

CL Span is Half span CL Span is Half span

Plan Length

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Confirmation of Learning

Crown End Rafters

Determine Plan Length of Crown End Rafter Ridge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

CL Span is Half span CL Span is Half span

½ Span – ½ Rafter

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Confirmation of Learning

Crown End Rafters

Determine Plan Length of Crown End Rafter Ridge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

CL Span is Half span CL Span is Half span

2070 – 22.5

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Confirmation of Learning

Crown End Rafters

Determine Plan Length of Crown End Rafter Ridge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

CL Span is Half span CL Span is Half span

2047.5

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Determine Crown End Rafter

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Step 1 - Solve 1m Triangle

25°

1

Rise = 1 x Tan 25° = 0.466

Rafter Length / m = 1 ÷ Cos 25° = 1.103

0.4661.103

This is the Same triangle as,•Common Rafter•Centring Rafter

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Determine Centreline LengthCrown End Rafter

Ridge

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Step 2 – Determine Plan LengthCentreline Length

25°

1

Plan Length= 2070

0.4661.103

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

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Step 3 – Determine Rafter LengthCentreline Length

25°

1

Rafter Length = Plan Length x Rafter Length per metre (RL/m)

Rafter Length = 2070 x 1.103

Rafter Length = 2283

0.4661.103

2070(1/2 Span)Plan Length

2283

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Determine True LengthCentring Rafter

90 x 45

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Step 2 – Determine Plan LengthTrue Length

25°

1

Plan Length = ½ Span – ½ Rafter ThicknessPlan Length = 2070 – 22.5.5Plan Length = 2047.5

0.4661.103

2047.5 Plan Length

Plan Length = Horizontal Distance from Top Plate to Edge of Centring Rafter

Centring Rafter

90 x 45

½ Rafter = 22.5mm

True Length

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REVIEW - Crown End Rafter LayoutWhat is the run of Centring Rafter & Crown End Rafter

Centering Rafter Run

Deduct Half Ridge

Ridge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

Crown End Rafter Run deduct Half Centering Rafter

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Step 3 – Determine Rafter LengthTrue Length

25°

1

Rafter Length = Plan Length x Rafter Length per metre (RL/m)

Rafter Length = 2047.5 x 1.103

Rafter Length = 2258

0.4661.103

2047.5Plan Length

2258

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Step 4 – Determine Rise (If Required) True Rise for Crown End

25°

1

Total Rise = Plan Length x Rise per metre

Total Rise = 2047.5 x 0.466

Total Rise = 954mm

0.4661.103

2258

954

2047.5Plan Length

Note – Rise of the Crown Rafter is lower than the Common & Centring Rafters

Detail on Next Slide

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Detail Explaining Rise of Centring Rafter

• Why isn’t the “TRUE” rise of the Crown End Rafter the same as the Common Rafters

• It depends!

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Crown End Rafter LayoutRidge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45

CL Span is Half span CL Span is Half span

A

AB

B

A

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Rafter Rise

4

19

45

10

22.5

10

45

22.5

As the crown end is further from the centre it must be lower

Section A-A

Section B-B

Centring Rafter

Ridge

Crown End Rafter

Crown End Rafter

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Rafter Rise

4

19

45

10

22.5

As the crown end is further from the centre it must be lower

Section A-A

Section B-B

Centring Rafter

Ridge

Crown End Rafter

Crown End Rafter

If the Centring & Crown Rafter are the same thickness they should meet at this point

10

45

22.5

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Crown End & Centring Rafter• Plan Length Crown End Rafter =

Half Span – Half Centring Rafter Width• Plan Length Centring Rafter =

Half Span – Half Ridge Width

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Hip Rafter

• Runs From Corner to Intersection Crown End & Centering Rafter - Centerline

• Hips Bisect Corners• Support Creepers• Fixing and Locating of Creepers• Distance above Birdsmouth is same as

common rafters called “Amount Left On”

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Hip Rafter LayoutRoofs are Set out by Centerline

Bisects Corner

Hip in Plan

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Hip Rafter – Plan Length

Span of Hip

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Hip Rafter – Plan Length

Hip Centreline Plan Length

Hip True Plan Length

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Hip Rafter

Start Point for Hip

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Hip Rafter

Corner Trimmed to allow a better fit

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Hip Rafter

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Hip Rafter LayoutRoofs are Set out by Centerline

Bisects Corner

Determine Centreline Span of Hip

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Hip & Rafter Fixed Relationship

1.00

0

1.000

90°

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Hip & Rafter Fixed Relationship

1.00

0

1.000

90°

Using Pythagoras Theorem

Z = √(12 + 12)

Z = √2 or 1.414

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Using Similar Triangle

1.000

1.00

0

2.000

2.00

0

1 x

√2

2 x

√2

3.145

3.14

500

0

3.14

5 x

√2

Note these triangles are not to scale

45°

45°

90° 45°

45°

90° 45°

45°

90°

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Confirmation of Learning

Express the Plan Length of the Hip as multiples of √2

½ Span Hip Length

1.000

4.563

7.896

12.546

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Confirmation of Learning

Express the Plan Length of the Hip as multiples of √2

½ Span Hip Length

1.000 1 x √2

4.563 4.563 x √2

7.896 7.896 x √2

12.546 12.546 x √2

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Centreline Plan length of Hip (Z)

½ Span = 2070

Z = 2070 x √2

Z = 2927

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Confirmation of Learning

Determine Actual the Plan Length of the Hips Below

½ Span Hip Length

1.000

4.563

7.896

12.546

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Confirmation of Learning

Express the Plan Length of the Hip as multiples of √2

½ Span Hip Length

1.000 1 x √2 = 1.414

4.563 4.563 x √2 = 6.453

7.896 7.896 x √2 = 11.167

12.546 12.546 x √2 = 17.743

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Centreline Length of Hip

• Methods– Hip Centreline Length per Meter of Common

Rafter Run– Pythagoras– Scribing– Measure in Situ

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From Gable Roof Lessons

We Know That for the above Roof the Rafter Length per meter can be calculated as follows

Rafter per meter run = √(1² + 0.577²) = 1.149

Roof Pitch = 30° Rise = 577 per metre

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Given Rise = 577 per metre

The Hip must rise to the same height

½ Span

√2

1.000

0.5

77

30°

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From Gable Roof Lessons

We Know That for the above Roof the Rafter Length per meter can be calculated as follows

Rafter per meter run = √(1² + 0.577²) = 1.149

Rafter per meter run = √(1 ÷ Cos 30°) = 1.149

Given Rise = 577 per metre

Roof Pitch = 30° Rise = 577 per metre

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Given Rise = 577 per metre

The Hip must rise to the same height

½ Span

√21.000

0.5

77

30°

We learnt previously that for every 1meter of Plan Length of the common rafter the hips plan length is run √2 or 1.414.

√2 = √(12 + 12)

1.0001.000

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Given Rise = 577 per metre

Roof Pitch = 30° Rise = 577 per metre

1.000 √2

1.155

We can draw the triangles formed as below

We learnt previously that for every 1meter of Plan Length of the common rafter the hips plan length is run √2 or 1.414.

√2 = √(12 + 12)

30°

0.57

7

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Given Rise = 577 per metre

Roof Pitch = 30° Rise = 577 per metre

1.000 √2

1.155

We can draw the triangles formed as below

Previously demonstrated there is a fixed relationship between the Plan Length of the Common Rafter and the Plan Length of the Hip Rafter.

Plan Length of Hip = Plan Length of Common Rafter x √(2)

30°

0.57

7

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Given Rise = 577 per metre

Roof Pitch = 30° Rise = 577 per metre

1.000 √2

1.155

If the Triangle is Solved using Pythagoras Theorem

Hip Length per metre of Rafter = √(Rise2 + √(2)2) = √(0.5772 + 2) = √(0.5772 + 2)

= 1.527

30°

Hip Length per metre of Rafter0.57

7

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Given Rise = 577 per metre

Roof Pitch = 30° Rise = 577 per metre

1.000 √2

1.155

If the Triangle is Solved using Pythagoras Theorem

Therefore for every for a 30°,

• For 1m of Plan Length of the Common Rafter • the Hip Rafter Length is 1.527

The Hip Rafter will change with the Pitch

30°

1.527

0.57

7

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Pitch = 30⁰

Using Pythagoras we determine the above triangle

Hip per meter of Common Rafter Run = √(1.4142+ 0.577²)= √(2+ 0.577²)

= √(2.333) = 1.527

Therefore for every meter of Common Rafter run at 30⁰The Hip Centreline Length = 1.527

1.527

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Pitch = 30⁰

If the Roof is Twice the size (2x) all numbers will be multiplied by 2

1.527

1 m Triangle

3.054

2 x

1.5272.824

1.15

4

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Pitch = 30⁰

If the Roof is 3600 times the size all numbers will multiplied by 3.6

1.527

1 m Triangle

5497

3600 x

36005091

2077

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Using Pythagoras we determined on last slide the above triangle

Hip per meter of Common Rafter Run = √(√(2)² + 0.577²)= √(2+ 0.333²)

= √(2.333) = 1.527

Centreline Length of Hip = ½ span x Hip Length per 1 metre of Common Rafter Plan Length

Centreline Length of Hip = 2.070 x 1.527 = 3.161

Given Rise = 577 per metre

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IN SUMMARY

5497

3600 x

36005091

2077

1.155

1m Triangle

1.0001.414

0.57

7

5257

3600 x

36005091

2077

1.460

1m Triangle

1.0001.414

0.36

4

20°20°

When Pitch Changes Plan dimensions do not change

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IN SUMMARY

5497

3600 x

36005091

2077

1.155

1m Triangle

1.414 1.000

0.57

7

5257

3600 x

36005091

2077

1.460

1m Triangle

1.0001.414

0.36

4

20°20°

When Pitch Changes Rise & Hip dimensions do change

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Centreline Length of Hip = Half span x Hip Length per meter of Common Rafter

Centreline Length of Hip = 2.070 x 1.527

= 3.161

`

Given Rise = 577 per metre

`

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Confirmation of LearningDetermine the Following

Pitch Span Hip Length per Meter Hip C.L Length30 545015 2370

22.5 1056025 600032 459045 11300

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Confirmation of LearningDetermine the Following

Pitch Span Hip Length per Meter Hip C.L Length30 5450 1.528 416315 2370 1.439 1706

22.5 10560 1.474 778125 6000 1.489 446732 4590 1.546 354845 11300 1.732 9786

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Centreline Length of Hip

• Methods– Hip Centreline Length per Meter of Common

Rafter Run– Pythagoras– Scribing– Measure in Situ

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Hip by Pythagoras

Step 1 – Calculate Roof RiseRise = Tan 25 x 2070⁰

= 965mm

Pitch 25⁰

Hip Rise Must Be The Same

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Hip by Pythagoras

Step 1 – Calculate Roof RiseRise = Tan 25 x 2070⁰

= 965mm

Pitch 25⁰

Hip Rise Must Be The Same as the rest of the roof

Hip Centreline Length = √(Hip Span² + Rise²) = √(2927² + 965²) = 3082mm

What is the Hip Pitch ?

Rise 965mm

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Hip by Pythagoras

Step 1 – Calculate Plan Length of Hip

= √(20702 x 20702)= 2927

Pitch 25⁰ Rise 965mm

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Hip by Pythagoras

Step 1 – Calculate Plan Length of Hip

= √(20702 x 20702)= 2927

Pitch 25⁰ Rise 965mm

Step 2 – Determine Rise= 2070 Tan 25°= 965

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Hip by Pythagoras

Step 1 – Calculate Plan Length of Hip

= √(20702 x 20702)= 2927

Pitch 25⁰

Hip Rise Must Be The Same as the rest of the roof

Hip Centreline Length = √(Hip Span² + Rise²) = √(2927² + 965²) = 3082mm

What is the Hip Pitch ?

Rise 965mm

Step 2 – Determine Rise= 2070 Tan 25°= 965

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1.527

Determine Pitch of Hip

1.5271.155

1.155

√2 1.000

Or √2

0.57

7

If the hip uses a large distance to get to the rise it cannot be the same pitch as the Common Rafter

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Determine Pitch of Hip

Adjacent

Opposite

Pitch°

Tan (Pitch)° = Opposite ÷ Adjacent

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1.527

Determine Pitch of Hip

1.5271.155

1.155

√2 1.000

Or √2

0.57

7

Tan (Pitch)° = Opposite ÷ Adjacent = √2 ÷ 0.577

= 0.408

Use your Calculators Inverse Trigonometry FunctionInv Tan-1 (0.408) = 22°

Adjacent

Opposite

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Centreline Length of Hip

• Methods– Hip Centreline Length per Meter of Common

Rafter Run– Pythagoras– Scribing– Measure in Situ

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Scribing

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Scribing

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Scribing

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Centreline Length of Hip

• Methods– Pythagoras– Hip Centreline Length per Meter of Common

Rafter Run– Scribing– Measure in Situ

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In-Situ

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In-Situ

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In-Situ

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Determine Plumb Cut Mathamatically

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Revision - Determining Angles Mathematically for Common Rafter

Roof Pitch

Right Angled Triangle

This angle must be 65⁰90 – 25 = 65

This angle must be 25⁰90 – 65 = 25

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Determining Plumb Cut Angles Mathematically

1. Extend Line 90⁰ From Rafter

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Determining Angles Mathematically

1. Extend Line 90⁰ From Rafter2. Extend Plumb Line from

same origin at top of Rafter

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Determining Angles Mathematically

1. Extend Line 90⁰ From Rafter2. Extend Plumb Line from

same origin at top of Rafter3. Angle Formed is same as

roof pitch

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Determining Angles Mathematically

1. Extend Line 90⁰ From Rafter2. Extend Plumb Line3. Angle Formed is same as

roof pitch4. Offset = Tan (pitch) x width

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Determining Angles Mathematically

1. Extend Line 90⁰ From Rafter2. Extend Plumb Line3. Angle Formed is same as

roof pitch4. Offset = Tan (25⁰) x 90

= 42

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Determine Cutting Length of Hip

Steps1. Determine Corresponding

Crown End Rafter Plan Length

2. Determine True Length

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Calculate Hip True LengthStep 1 – Determine Plan Length of Crown End

Pitch 25⁰Centering Rafter 90 x 45

Crown End Rafter Plan Length = Half Span – ½ Rafter Thickness= 2070 – 22.5= 4047.5 or 2048

Hip runs to edge of Crown End Rafter

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Determine Hip RunHip Run Plan Length is based on Crown End Rafter’s Plan Length

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Calculate Hip True LengthStep 2 – Determine True Length

Pitch 30⁰Centring Rafter 90 x 45

Hip True Length = Crown End Rafter Plan Length x Hip Length per m of Rafter= 2048 x 1.527= 3.127

Hip runs to edge of Crown End Rafter

1.527

√2 1.0000.

577

30°

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Alternate Method to Calculate Hip True Length

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Previous Centreline Calculation of Hip

Pitch 25⁰Rise = 965mmHip CL = 3082

Centreline Plan Length of Hip = √(Half Span² + Half Span²) = √(2070² + 2070²) = 2927

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Crown End Rafter LayoutRidge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45Hip 140 x 19

Method 1Deduction = √(22.5²+ 22.5²)

= √1012.5= 31.8 or 32

Method 2Deduction = 1.414 x 22.5

= 31.8 or 32

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Determine Run of HipPitch 25⁰Rise = 965mmHip CL = 3082

Hip Run = 2927 – 32

Hip Run = 2895

32 mm Deduction

Centreline Length

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Determine Run of HipPitch 25⁰Rise = 965mmHip CL = 3082

Hip Run = 2927 – 32

Hip Run = 2895

32 mm Deduction

True Length

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Determine Cutting Length of Hip

1. Determine Corresponding Crown End Rafter

2. Deductions

– Centring Rafters

– Corner of Plates

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Deduction for Top Plate CutRidge 140 x19 Rafter 90 x 45Hip 140 x 19

Deduction = Hip Width / 2= 19 / 2= 9.5`

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Hip Plumb CutMathematically

From previous work we determined the hip as follows

Hip Pitch may be determined either

Pitch = Tan-1 954/2895 = 0.330 = 18.25⁰

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Determining Plumb Cut Mathematically – Hip 140 x 19

1. Extend Line 90⁰ From Rafter2. Extend Plumb Line from

same origin3. Angle Formed is same as

roof pitch4. Offset = Tan (18.25⁰) x 140

= 46

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Markng Out Hip

1. Set Out Top Plumb Cut

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Marking Out Hip

1. Set Out Top Plumb Cut2. Measure Calculated Hip Length

and place Plumb line

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Marking Out Hip

1. Set Out Top Plumb Cut2. Measure Calculated Hip Length

and place Plumb line3. Mark same “Amount Left on”

as the Common Rafter

Common Rafter Hip Rafter

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Marking Out Hip

1. Set Out Top Plumb Cut2. Measure Calculated Hip Length

and place Plumb line3. Mark “Amount Left on”4. Mark deduction for top plate

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Marking Out Hip

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Determine Hip LengthUsing Roofing Square

Use Calculator

Revise Common Rafter

1.Press Tan 25 – what does this give you2.Therefore for every 1 metre run there is 0.466m rise3.The hip rafter , Crown End Rafter & Common Rafter have the same rise

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Hip has same rise as Common Rafter & Crown End Rafter

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1. Therefore for every 1 metre run of Common Rafter there is 1 metre of run for the Crown End Rafter and there is 1.414 metres of run for the hip

2. For both members there is 0.466m rise3. Using the principle of similar triangles

we reduce the size of the triangle4. In this case to fit on the steel square we

need to divide by 3

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1. As we reduce hip by 3 we reduce Crown End/ Common Rafter by 3 (1000 / 3 = 333)

2. There are (2048 / 333 =) 6.150 step outs for the Crown End rafter

3. There will also be 6.150 step outs for the Hip Rafter or 6 step outs + remainder( .189 x 471) 71

4. Plumb Cut Hip

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Set Out Hip with Steel Square

Step 2

Using Steel Square for Hip step out six times

Step 3Using Tape measure out along a square line of Steel Square and mark Plumb Cut

Step 1 Mark Plumb Cut to Back of Birdsmouth

1

2

34

5

6

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1. Eaves Allowance2. Eaves Width = 600mm3. There are (600 / 333 =)

1.802 step outs for the Eave Overhang

4. There will also be 1.802 step outs for the Hip Rafter or 1 step outs + remainder( .802 x 471) 378

5. Plumb Cut Hip

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Set Out Hip with Steel Square

Eaves AllowanceEaves Width 600mm

As Overhangs are never pre-cut, we need leave enough say 2 Step Outs + Plumb Cut

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

This angle is in the Plane as the roof

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Top Edge of Hip is not in the same plane as the Main Roof

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Extend base of Hip to plane formed by Crown End Rafter

This line is Level

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Plan View

Extend base of Hip to plane formed by Crown End Rafter

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Plan View

New Line Formed is same length as Hip Run

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Hip Centreline Length

Hip Centreline Run

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Hip Centreline Length

Hip Centreline Run

Hip Edge Bevel

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Hip Edge Bevel

Hip Centreline Length

Hip Centreline Run

Hip Edge BevelEdge Bevel = Tan-1 Hip Run

Hip Length= Tan-1 2928 3082= Tan-1 0.950

= 43.53⁰

Pitch 25⁰

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Review Determining Angles Mathematically

1. From Our Common Rafter Example

2. Note – Plumb Cut is not Roof Pitch

3. We require 65⁰4. To use Bevel, angle needs

to be in this position5. Therefore 90⁰ – (Required

Angle ) = Offset Angle

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Edge Bevel HipMathematically

OFFSETT Angle = 90 - (Required Angle)⁰

= 90 - 43.53⁰ ⁰

= 46.47⁰

OFFSETT = Tan 46.47 x 90

= 95

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Creeper Rafters

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Creeper Rafters

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Determine Creepers

1. Creepers Spacing Same as Common Rafter

2. Creepers usually of same material as Common Rafter

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Creepers

1. The Centreline Run of 1st Creeper is 1 Rafter Spacing less than the Centering Rafter

2. If take a view in this direction

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Creepers

1. This reduction in length can be represented by this triangle

2. As the pitch is the same as the common Rafter we can use the 1m Triangle

3. The hypotenuse = Rafter Spacing x Rafter Length per m

= 450 x 1.103 = 496mm

This is called the CREEPER SHORTENING

Pitch 25⁰

1.000

1.103

45° in Plan

Section V

iew

This is the same pitch as Common Rafter

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Determine Creepers

1. All pairs of Creepers are reduced by the creeper shortening

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Determine CreepersSetting Out

1. It is impractical to use centreline to measure creepers for cutting

2. Typically you would set out to the long point

3. We need to 1st determine the plan length of the Creeper at the “LONG POINT” as a distance from the top plate

Pitch 25⁰

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Determining Creepers RunDetermine First Creeper Plan Length

1. Deduct Rafter Spacing

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140x19

Gets us to here

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Determining Creepers RunDetermine First Creeper Plan Length

1. Deduct Rafter Spacing

2. Deduct Half Hip x 1.414

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140x19

We now need to get here

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Determining Creepers RunDetermine First Creeper Run

1. Deduct Rafter Spacing

2. Deduct Half Hip x √2

3. Deduction = 9.5 x √2 = 13mm

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140x19

We now need to get here

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paci

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Hip

Th

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We now need to get here

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Determine CreepersRafter 90 x 45

We now need to getto the long point

½ S

pan

– R

aft

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paci

ng

– (

Hip

Th

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x √

2) +

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r T

hick

ness

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Determine CreepersSetting Out

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45

1. Deduct Rafter Spacing

2. Deduct Half Hip x 1.414

3. Deduction = 9.5 x 1.414 = 13mm

4. Add ½ thickness of creeper

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Determine CreepersSetting Out

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45

The Plan Length of the 1st Creeper =

Centring Rafter RunLess Rafter SpacingLess Half Hip x 1.414Plus Half Creeper Thickness

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Creeper RaftersDetermine 1st Creeper

1st Creeper Rafter Plan Length =

Half Span = 2070Minus Creeper Spacing = 450Minus Half Hip x 1.414 = 13Plus Half Creeper Thickness = 22.5

1st Creeper Plan Length = 1629.5

True Length = 1629.5 x Rafter /m = 1629.5 x 1.103 = 1797

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45Rafter Spacing 450mmCreeper Shortening 497mm

1.000

1.103

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Creeper Rafters

2nd Creeper Rafter True Length =

1st Creeper True Length = 1797Less Creeper Shortening - 497

2nd Creeper Rafter True Length = 1300

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45Rafter Spacing 450mmCreeper Shortening 497mm

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Creeper Rafters

3rd Creeper Rafter True Length =

2nd Creeper True Length = 1300Less Creeper Shortening - 497

3rd Creeper Rafter True Length = 803

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45Rafter Spacing 450mmCreeper Shortening 497mm

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Creeper Rafters

4th Creeper Rafter True Length =

3rd Creeper True Length = 803Less Creeper Shortening - 497

4th Creeper Rafter True Length = 306

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45Rafter Spacing 450mmCreeper Shortening 497mm

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Creeper Rafters

4th Creeper Rafter True Length =

3rd Creeper True Length = 794Less Creeper Shortening - 497

4th Creeper Rafter True Length = 307

Note – If distance from hip to last creeper is excessive an extra creeper may be placed to support eaves– This is called a DUMMY CREEPER

Pitch 25⁰Hip 140 x19Creeper 90 x 45Rafter Spacing 450mmCreeper Shortening 497mm

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Edge Bevel Creeper

When we look in plan at a roofWe do not see its true shape

In this case we see a triangle With 2 sides appearing to equalLengths of half span

Pitch 25⁰

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Edge Bevel Creeper

The true shape of the hipEnd is in fact defined byHalf Span andTrue Length Rafter

Pitch 25⁰

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Edge Bevel Creeper

Edge Bevel Angle

Angle = Tan-1( Half Span ) True Length Rafter

Pitch 25⁰

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Edge Bevel Creeper

Edge Bevel Angle

Angle = Tan-1( Half Span ) True Length Rafter

Angle = Tan-1(2070) 2284

Angle = Tan-1(0.9063)

= 42.19⁰

Pitch 25⁰

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Edge Bevel Creeper

Edge Bevel Angle

Angle = Tan-1( Half Span ) True Length Rafter

Angle = Tan-1(2070) 2284

Angle = Tan-1(0.9063)

= 42.19⁰

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Creeper Edge Bevel

Edge Bevel Angle

Angle = Tan-1( Half Span ) True Length Rafter

Angle = Tan-1(2070) 2284

Angle = Tan-1(0.9063)

= 42.19⁰

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Edge Bevel CreeperMathematically

OFFSETT Angle = 90 - (Required Angle)⁰

= 90 - 42.19⁰ ⁰

= 47.81⁰

OFFSETT = Tan 47.81 x 90⁰

= 99

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Plan View

Purlins Intersect at 90⁰ across Hip Rafter

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Plan View

Purlins Intersect at 90⁰ across Hip Rafter

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Purlins are parallel to top plate

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Angles are the same for all purlins on an equally pitched roof

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Angles formed at Top Plate is the same as formed at Purlin

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Triangle formed by Purlin, Hip & Centering Rafter

Triangle formed by Top Plate, Hip & Centering Rafter

Similar Triangles

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

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Determine Purlin Edge Bevel

Edge Bevel Angle

Angle = Tan-1(Rafter Centerline) Half Span

Angle = Tan-1(2284) 2070

Angle = Tan-1(1.103)

= 47.81⁰

Pitch 25⁰

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Determine Purlin & Creeper Edge Bevel

Out of Same Triangle

Creeper Edge Bevel

Purlin Edge Bevel

Pitch 25⁰