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    Amphetamine Synthesis: Hydrogen Iodide

    Ephadrine Reduction

    by HeXeN

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    Hydrogen iodide Reduction of Ephadrine HCLApparatus:

    Reaction vessle 2000 mls (2lt)Slant joint for normal distilation400 mm ALLIHN type condenser (any water cooled condenser wich can be used for refluxing)1000 ml graduated beaker1000 ml pyrex baking dishbunsen burner / heat sourcemorter and pestlescientific filter paper(here i will list products needed to extract pure elements ( this is added only for people who don't have access toelement form Crystal iodine and Red phosphorus))Chemicals:-PH up + down kit100 grams Ephadrine HCL (sudafed or some other brand of anti cold over the counter medication containing morethen 50 mgs of ephadrine hcl in each tablet / capsuel)150 grams RP Red Phosphorus ( approxx. 500 box's worth of SAFETY MATCH Striker pads)150 grams crytsal iodine (I2) (five bottles of iodine liquid containing atleast 40 % iodine or more PER BOTTLE)dH-O-H (h-o-h) H20 200 ml(distilled water)you say ( H-O-H ) ??? thats not water.. yes it is, and i am not going to give a lecture about permanent dipole, andhow oxygen holds electrons more strongly then hydrogen does and so the oxygen atom accumulates a negativeelectrical charge, while the hydrogens have a positive charge. so shut up.5 liters 99% pure ethanol, (methylated spirits)Method:-1. (skip this if you allready have pure Red phosphorus.)cut the striker pads off all the boxes and put them in a large glass container.. and cover with Ethanol. i found the bestway is to use a tooth brush and scrub the Red phosphorus off the striker pads buy hand... but can take MANY hoursto get a few grams. Altho relatively pure, it can be quite impractical for Large cooks.(another method) take a large plastic bucket and put the Striker pads on the bottom and completely cover with

    ethanol. take the lid for the bucket and cut a small hole in it, to insert a power Drill with some kind of CraftedStirring Device. put the drill on high and mix the contents of the bucket for 30 minutes to an hour.pour the contents of the bucket threw a Mesh gauze into the pyrex tray trapping any Paper or card board. once all themixture is pour threw the gauze u will be left with a large amount of card board wich still holds Red phosphorus,pour Ethanol threw the card board and threw the gauze into the pyrex tray to flush out any left over REDPHOSPHORUS.in the Pyrex tray all the Red phosphorus will start to Settle on the bottom. it is a good idea to SEDMIMENT themixture.pouring off any Excess ethanol, then flushing that back threw the gauze with the card board in it to flushout last amounts of RP.

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    once you believe you have gained all the red phosphorus you can from the Striker pads, Discard them and keep theRP that is still in the ethanol..let it sit over night, then GENTLY sediment it buy Syphening or simply Pouring off the Excess ethanol, save thesludge on the bottom and let it sit in the sun for the last amount of ethanol to Evaporate off.this will leave you with relatively pure Red phosphorus.(note: red posphorus is flammable and burns like all fuck if you get it on your skin wile its on fire)2. skip this step if you have pure I2 iodine crystalspour all the iodine liquid into a large container and add 400 mls of hydrogen peroxide and 30 mls of hydrochloricacid, put in the freezer till the tempreture is ruffly 2 degree's celcious, then pour the Solution threw a scientific filterpaper. the substance left in the filter will be allmost pure I2.3. skip this step if you allready have pure ephadrine HCLtake morter and pestle and grind all the tablets to a fine powder and Dissolve in ETHANOL - shake it up to makesure All ephadrine is Disolved, now let it stand for 2 hours and gently Sedmiment the mixture To only obtain theEthanol... all the sludge on the bottom is USELESS and is mainly for "SLOW RELEASE" into your body, throw itaway and keep the cloudy looking ethanol. pour the ethanol into the Pyrex tray and apply gentle heat to evaporatethe ethanol, leaving pure ephadrine HCL, in the last stage of evaporation reduce the heat as not to burn theephadrine.4. set up reaction vessle with stand and clamps above the heat source / bunsen burner and add 200 mls of water, and150 grms of iodine + 100 grams of Ephadrine HCL, then add in the red phosphorus.5. connect condenser in refluxing position and apply heat bringing the Reaction vessle solution to a Tempreture of

    80 degree's celcious.what is happening now? its not hard to understand whats going on in your Flask, but i will tell you just incase youslept threw year 12 chemistry. with the iodine - water and red phosphorus refluxing Creating Hydrogen iodide gaswich is Reducing the ephadrine to amphetamine.after an hour increase the tempreture to 125 degree's celcious, and allow the reaction vessle solution to Reflux for 12hours.after 12 hours has elapsed, turn off the heat and allow reaction vessle to cool in an ice bath, remove condenser andapply slant join and condenser in position for normal distilation and apply heat to bring the solution back to 110degree's celcious. you will notice that a yellow-ish oily liquid is flowing from the condenser into your beaker, this isbasicly amphetamine, once the flow of oil from the condenser is slowing, raise the tempreture to 125 degree'scelcious to force any remaining speed over into the beaker.once the flow has completely stopped, terminate the heat source, discard left over sludge in reaction vessle andCLEAN equiptment extremely well with Ethanol- and then again with hot water and a steralizing product.

    neutralize the solution in the beaker with the PH up+down kit, it dusnt have to be perfect, but the closer to neutralthe better.once solution has been neutralized, pour it into a Clean pyrex baking dish and apply gentle heat to the bottom (DONOT ALLOW THE TEMPRETURE TO GO BEYOND 30 DEGREE'S CELCIOUS) once it has all beenevaporated off you will be left with a yellow-ish to brown coloured substance, scrape it up with a razor blade andWeigh it.add just enough ethanol to Dissolve the substance, then add the Dryed weight of the product to the same weight inEPSUM SALTS (magnesium sulfate) so if there was 80 grams of speed when dryed, add 80 grams of empsum saltsto the solution.. understand?? good.allow the ethanol to evaporate off and u will be left with a slightly yellow Crystaline substance.this is Street level PURE amphetamine, me and you both know its not PURE PURE, (because of the addition ofepsum salts in the final crystalization stage) but the fact Remains, this shit is the Shizzznitt, and is VERY STRONG,one tenth of a gram of PURE PURE speed straight from the Crystalization Tray BEFOR the addition of magnesium

    sulfate is enough to give you the biggest head spin and make you feel like your the blade on a helicopter for atleast30 minutes ( the worst 30 minz of your life) then have you cleaning your mums house and wondering about thepolice living in your roof for the next 2 days, so take my advice and cut it befor using it. its very high quality shit,and 99% of people have never had PURE PURE speed, because 99% of cooks realise how strong it is and never sellit straight from the crystalization tray without cutting. also .. after dissolving the product with ethanol and addingEmpsum salts, it gives the product a nice Crystaline appearance normmally assosiated with Speed ormethamphetaminesthis Tutorial was written by hexen.the information provided here is the result of a long time of trial and error from the original recipe passed down tome from a higher power, not everything will work perfectly for you with those exact measurements and your

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    perticular equiptment, but a few try's will get it down to a syntax, also i gained the information on extracting the Redphosphorus from a user on totse.com! props to you whoever you are :Pi hve seen users describing amphetamine synthesis that dont Require a condenser like a "one-pot" method.i am sorry but it dusnt work, this shit MUST be refluxed for atleast 12 hours, just boiling it in a pot dusnt work, lolbut really that is a dumb idea and anyone who is stupid enough to believe it Deserves to DIE FROM A DIRTYWHAK.if you follow half the recipe's you find on the net, u Will get a dirty, WITHOUT A DOUBT, and it just may be yourlast.for people out there who don't know what a dirty is, its when you whak up something (inject something) into yourviens that has impuritie's or un-wanted nasty's in it, your body goes into convulsions, as if you are trying to Spew itback up but cant.. your body starts going Really cold, and normaLLY... you die.DO NOT FOLLOW ANY ONEPOT RECIPE's - or basicly any recipe's that dont follow basicly what i have just Described, except of course fordifferent chemicals used to create Hydrogen iodide, example:-hypophosphorus acid is commonly used and is very safe and effective in the process of creating hydrogen iodide.i seen one Recipe that started off, dissolving MAGNESIUM in some liquid - i suggest you keep well clear of asynthesis that starts like that.one more thing, its not completely nessesary to prepare Pre-made hydrogen iodide as a liquid, refered to hydriodicacid or HI(aq) as it is formed instantly with the addition of red phosphorus water and iodine under heat.

    SYNTHESES THAT SUCK:There've been a lot of synthesis methods proposed on UseNet for synthesizing methamphetamine. Thus far, I haven'tseen one that I imagine would work.One, from Phrack magazine, is the "tried and true method" for prepping meth from Vick's nasal inhalers. Vick'snasal inhalers contain "l-desoxyephedrine," another name for "l-methamphetamine." The l- isomer ofmethamphetamine is the relatively inactive one, usable as a (mild) nasal decongestant. The d- isomer is the one thateveryone wants and that Uncle Sam has declared is just too cool for anyone except doctors.The procedure described would extract the l-meth froom the inhalers and collect it and that's it. I'm sorry, but theIsomer Fairy can't wave her magick wand and reverse the chirality of the molecule.The only way to change betweenthe two isomers is to oxidize the l-meth into phenylacetone, condense it with methylamine, then reduce it. Sorry, butsoaking inhalers in HCl then separating the "juice" with Et2OH just won't do it. You'll get l-meth and that's that.A more credible souding one mentions that "methamphetamine is prepared by the calalytic reduction of

    pseudoephedrine in acetic acid" blahblahblah and then goes on to describe, not catalytic reduction via acetic acid,but reduction with sodium borohydride.I'm sorry to say that no method attempting to directly reduce(pseudo)ephedrine's hydroxyl group is going to work. You can't expose it to a strong acid, or a weak acid, or sodiumborohydride, or even lithium aluminum hydride and expect it to reduce at all. As with the Vick's Inhalers "recipe,"you get a lot of SOMETHING, but it ain't d-meth. All you'll be left with is your (pseudo)ephedrine and a bunch ofacid, lithium, and/or sodium and lotsa hydrogen gas. This is because the hydroxyl group (the OH in ephedrine) is ona very acidic carbon (the first carbon away from the ring) and a hydroxyl group is very basic. If the hydroxyl wereon the second carbon from the ring (the carbon with the amine group, the NH2 or NHCH3), there might be somechance, but it's not and there's not. You're not getting a basic group off an acidic carbon without a fight, and acids,borohydride, and LiAlhydride aren't gonna fight that hard.SYNTHESES THAT DON'T SUCK:One of the easiest ways to make methamphetamine is from amphetamine.Of course, this assumes you haveamphetamine in the first place, but let's just pretend you have some and you want to spice it up a bit. The difference

    between amphetamine and methamphetamine is the addition of a single methyl group (CH3) to the amino groupsticking off the middle carbon atom in the chain. Fortunately, substituting amines is really simple. Vaporize youramine (your amphetamine) with a bunch of vaporized chloromethane (CH3Cl, a solvent) and some gaseouspyridine... voila, the amino group takes the methyl from the chloromethane and lets a hydrogen go. The hydrogenjoins the liberated chlorine, and the resulting HCl is soaked up by the pyridine.The pyridine is optional. Adding itdrives the reaction a bit by pulling the excess HCl out of the equation, but it's not neessary.Assuming you don't have amphetamine lying around, an easy synthesis with a very high yield is to reduce thecondensation product of phenylacetone and methylamine. The benefit of this method is that different amines can beused to produce novel N-alkyl amphetamines (ethamphetamine, tert-butylamphetamine, etc)

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    Making it from ephedrine or pseudoephedrine is possible. The only difference between methamphetamine and(pseudo)ephedrine is that damn alpha-hydroxy group. Reacting your ephedrine with thionyl chloride replaes the OHwith Cl to produce N-methyl-alpha-chloroamphetamine as an intermediate. Hydrogenating this product is easy: uselithium aluminum hydride, sodium borohydride, or even hydrogen gas with nickel or platinum metal as a catalyst.The product of this step is N-methylamphetamine and HCl. Evaporate off the water and you have methamphetaminehydrochloride.A surprisingly simple synthesis is possible from the amino acid phenylalanine, which is available at health foodstores for about $14 for 100 tablets. Phenylalanine is 2-amino-3-phenylpropanoic acid, which is more or lessamphetamine with a COOH where the CH3 should be at the end of the chain. Thionyl chloride will replace the OHwith a Cl, which falls off and is replaced by H when you give it lithium aluminum hydride, sodium borohydride, orhydrogen gas and nickel/platinum. If you use hydrogen and metal for that step, you'll have to reduce the carbonylgroup with one of the hydrides, so best save time + effort and use them and do both reductions at once. When thatcarbonyl is reduced, you now have amphetamine.Go back up to that first one I mentioned for upgradingamphetamine into methamphetamine.Note that azll of these (and probably anything anyone ever comes up with) will give you a mix of d- and l- isomers.The d- is cool, the l- is shit, remember. If you have time, energy, and equipment, you can separate the two andreprocess the l- into d- by oxidizing it and re-aminating it as described in the "critique" of the Phrack synthesis.DIAGRAMS:H /\\ / \ NH / \\ / \ / || | | || | | || | CH3 amphetamine \ // \// H /\\ / \ NCH3 / \\ / \ / || | | || | | || | CH3 methamphetamine \ //has a CH3 at N that amphetamine doesn't \//

    OH | H /\\ / \ NCH3 / \\ / \ / || | | || | | ephedrine and pseudoephedrine || | CH3 the difference is whether the OH \ //points up or down \//H /\\ / \ NH / \\ / \ / || | | || | | || | C=O phenylalanine \ // | compare to amphetamine \// OHDirect hydrogenation over Pd or Pd on a carrier is well known and facile.You add a little perchloric, phosphoric orsulphuric acid, which esterifies the-OH group that you're complaining about.Thus making the intermediate halide via SOCl2, like you mentioned, is unecessary.Hydrogenation starting with (-) ephedrine, whether direct or via the halide, will give d-meth. If you start with dl-ephedrine, you get dl-meth.

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