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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)14:54:28 No.6320032 ?>>6320041 >>6320076

>>6320013 (OP)

>vidya

there's your problem, and I think the fact that you're on this board rather than /adv/ asking that question means you're in the right direction.

Don't post. For a long while. Absorb.

Start reading obsessively

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)14:57:32 No.6320037 ?>>6320083

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>>6320013 (OP)

How old are you?

I feel like a leecher to. I was waiting to finish college to get a job, but considering how bad I'm doing I probably going to look for jobs at the end of the semester.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)14:58:32 No.6320041 ?>>6320414

>>6320032

>Start reading obsessively

and reading non-fiction

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:01:37 No.6320056 ?>>6320112 >>6321951

If you believe there's nothing wrong with it then you shouldn't feel like a leech. If you do, you are only harming yourself.

You are free to contribute in a variety of ways. Socio-economically, by paying taxes; academically, by producing scientific (broadly construed) work and thus advancing the field of your specialty; helping people (yourself included) by means of philanthropy/altruism.

>it is a very boring life

What if the act and process of contribution itself is boring? Will you change your mind about the value of contribution?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:02:04 No.6320058 ?

you're contributing to the decline in quality of posts on /lit/

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:07:27 No.6320076 ?>>6320114 >>6320126 >>6320177 >>6320285 >>6320529

>>6320032

What is wrong with vidya?

The problem is absorbing. I have been doing nothing but absorbing. I want to switch to the contributing side and I lack the motivation to do so.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:08:55 No.6320083 ?>>6320428

>>6320037

Are you me?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:11:03 No.6320097 ?

Technically you don't have to contribute anything other than the amount you need to live. If you want to create content, though, pick something out and get to work. The only way you will ever contribute something meaningful to any medium is if you spend a very significant amount of your time devoted to it, which means you would have to start now and actually keep at it. If I were in your shoes, I would stop playing videogames and instead use that time to practice writing fiction, or poetry. It is up to you, though.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:14:26 No.6320112 ?>>6320191 >>6320210

>>6320056

I think there is no moral obligations for me to contribute but I just feel like I am not exercising my will enough and thus not living in life that is worth living. So I feel like a leech rather than a human.

I agree there might not be an actual value behind contributing something. But I think an active life of creating/destroying something is more appealing than passive absorbing life.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:15:04 No.6320114 ?>>6320268

>>6320076

>I want to switch to the contributing side and I lack the motivation to do so.

Wanting implies motivation, lack of motivation implies lack of will; this is a contradiction in terms and fundamentally an irrational behavior. Or you're just poor at articulating your thoughts and desires.

Go for a walk and make up your mind. Then, act.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:17:43 No.6320126 ?>>6320160

>>6320076

Well, the motivation has to come from yourself, not from some vietnamese child trading site. What are you interests? Do you have any? Are you a STEMfag or Humanities fag? Would you rather work at an industry or an office? Do you like building stuff? There is plenty of things you could do, the important thing is know what you want to do.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:24:31 No.6320155 ?

The problem is in yourself.

This feeling of discontentment leads either to apathy & grouchiness or to grand ambition, both of which are self-serving.

Acquire contentment and gratitude and love and compassion for others will flow naturally.

Treating your neighbour right is a better achievement than going on some grand mission to fix the world, which is really only pride and self-delusion.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:26:25 No.6320160 ?>>6320181

>>6320126

The important thing is not "knowing what to do". That is mysticism, fortune-telling, star gazing.

The important thing is being content with what you are doing.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:31:32 No.6320177 ?

>>6320076

You are deluded. You think that this desire to "contribute" is selfless. It isn't. It's your pride telling you that you aren't good enough and have to achieve more. This feeling of inadequacy has nothing to do with love of others and has everything to do with self-love.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:32:32 No.6320181 ?>>6320217

>>6320160

How the hell is knowing yourself mysticism? By knowing what to do I mean figuring out what you are really interested in and pursuing it.

You will never be content with what you are doing if you have no interest in it.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:34:42 No.6320191 ?

>>6320112

>But I think an active life of creating/destroying something is more appealing than passive absorbing life.

It isn't. The only thing that the ambitious achieve is self-mutilation.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:39:39 No.6320210 ?

>>6320112

Not exercising your will, by itself, does not mean you are a leech. Unless by 'leech' you mean 'taking advantage of one's impoverished will by means of gratification of sorts'.

>I agree there might not be an actual value behind contributing something. But I think an active life of creating/destroying something is more appealing than passive absorbing life.

What I meant was: what if something that initially appeared as a worthwhile way of living turned out not to be a worthwhile way of living because of how boring you found it later on, upon its actual execution and process? I.e. you just as easily may adopt to your new way of living just as you once adapted to your current way of living. Years later, driven by yet another phase of boredom, you might be craving for something else entirely, once again.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:41:04 No.6320217 ?>>6320258 >>6320272 >>6320299 >>6320751

>>6320181

Because this idea of a true self that has a mystical attachment to this one thing is mysticism. People aren't born with an interest in anything, they gain it by enchantment.

The goal isn't to "find what you are interested in" (which really means hypnotiszing yourself into loving something). The goal is to be completely disinterested and fulfil your work dispassionately.

If you go down the route of "finding what you are interested in" you will become a Beethoven manic-depressive whose happiness depends upon his situation in relation to his obsession.

If you go down the correct route of dispassionately you could be a CEO or a janitor and fulfil your role with the same contentment.

This is why you see people in high positions who are miserable and people in low ones who are sad: the miserable ones are ambitious and are always thinking "this isn't what I'm interested in, my passion lies elsewhere!"

It's stupidity and childishness to follow passion.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:53:09 No.6320258 ?

>>6320217

I am not saying that persons have a mystical attachment to anything, I am not sure where you are taking this from. People have affinities to different thing and there is nothing mystical about it. Some people are into sports, other are into art, movies, science, mathematics, engineering, the list goes on and on.

If you have no passion to what you are doing then you will eventually ask your self: "Why am I doing this?" Like it or not, humans are passionate beings, they invest their feelings into their life. If they find no fulfillment in their life then they will feel miserable, for a good part of them this "fulfillment" comes from things that they enjoy doing.

You can't be completely disinterested in something you are doing 8 hours a day. You say that disinterest will avoid you feeling misery, but it will also stop you from feeling joy.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:58:26 No.6320268 ?

>>6320114

No, his post makes sense, you just have to read it as "I want to have contributed but I lack motivation to actually contribute"

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)15:59:15 No.6320272 ?>>6320315

>>6320217

Interesting perspective. What has lead you to this conclusion?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:05:06 No.6320285 ?>>6320290 >>6320319 >>6320327 >>6320332 >>6320359 >>6320368

>>6320076

> What is wrong with vidya?

It's a waste of fucking time you stupid fucking twat. READ. READ READ READ. Shut the fuck up, turn off your computer and read and only turn it back on when you feel you've worked hard enough to warrant a rest. Jesus christ "what wrong with vidja". You've been behind a screen so long you don't even know you're looking at one. Never play videogames again and become a better, happier and more thoughtful person (and a lot more fun to be around).

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:06:10 No.6320290 ?>>6320293 >>6320298

>>6320285

>It's a waste of fucking time you stupid fucking twat

just like reading fiction

both are mere entertainment

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:08:57 No.6320293 ?>>6320298 >>6320327

>>6320290

>just like reading fiction

Everyone,

This is this what League of Legends will do to you. Not a joke.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:11:27 No.6320298 ?>>6320300

>>6320293

>>6320290

I am still confused as to what the fuck you guys mean by fiction? Some of you say it involves every single novel, others say that it just involves novels like Harry Potter, Hunger games, Game of Thrones etc.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:11:48 No.6320299 ?>>6320307

>>6320217

>If you go down the route of "finding what you are interested in" you will become a Beethoven manic-depressive whose happiness depends upon his situation in relation to his obsession.

>If you go down the correct route of dispassionately you could be a CEO or a janitor and fulfil your role with the same contentment.

So you're basically saying that if I allow myself to be passionate I'll be Beethoven, and if I restrain myself from passion I'll become a janitor?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:13:04 No.6320300 ?>>6320320

>>6320298

And that uncertainty is exactly why stupid reductionist attitudes like this LoL-fuckface are stupid.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:14:02 No.6320307 ?>>6320323

>>6320299

I found it funny too that he tried to put Beethoven in a negative light.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:16:01 No.6320315 ?>>6320331

>>6320272

I've heard arguments from both sides. Almost all the wise men of the ages are on the side of dispassionately, detachment, simple living, being content with small things. Ecclesiastes opens with the statement that all is vanity, and ends by saying that you should keep the commandments of God in simplicity and not worry about anything else. There was a great Roman empire who said before he died, "I've been everything, nothing is worth it."

The philosophers of ambition are people like the mythical Faust who sells his soul to acquire secret wisdom. In the end, the ambitious who seek to accomplish their "great work" or "Magnus opus" only end up ruining themselves, yet they have no compunction about ruining others if they can achieve their imaginary greatness for a moment.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:16:41 No.6320319 ?>>6320459

>>6320285

this sounds like great advice if you hate yourself

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:17:12 No.6320320 ?>>6320459

>>6320300

That didn't quite answer my question.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:17:27 No.6320323 ?>>6320343 >>6320479

>>6320307

Beethoven is a typical Faust figure. The tortured genius. Like Hamlet, who think it's his job to set the world right and only ends up driving himself and those close to him mad.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:19:15 No.6320327 ?>>6320333 >>6320459

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>>6320293

>>6320285

>mfw just finished a 25/6/17 dota 2 match

[ ] better person

[ ] happier person

[ ] thoughtful person

[ ] fun to be around

thank god i'm a neet and i don't give a shit

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:19:59 No.6320331 ?

>>6320315

So, you are saying that we shouldn't seek our "Magnus Opus" and just hope that we stumble against it by chance? You are saying that humans shouldn't strive for greatness and live in mere simplicity. To each their own I guess, that is something I would never admit.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:21:03 No.6320332 ?>>6320368 >>6320459 >>6320805 >>6320858

>>6320285

>he doesn't think video games can be art

sure, they're much lower in maximum potential than a book (at the moment--who knows what future tech will transform it into), but they still have their artistic merit (particularly some unique to their form)

>never play videogames again

replace "videogames" with any art form or media and you'll see how retarded you are

hell, I would argue that in 200 or so years, video games will probably eclipse books in terms of artistic merit

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>>6320327

>dota 2

>[ ] happier person

Yep, nothing out of the ordinary here

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:25:14 No.6320343 ?

>>6320323

And now look at what he accomplished. He is one of the greatest musician to ever grace this planet, he is at the very top. If greatness is what he was trying to attain, then he was successful.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:27:11 No.6320350 ?

maybe start slower with not contributing anything to society but just be productive. doesnt mean to do something good or beautiful, drawing all out inside a little frame is being productive as well, though the result may be shit. and the best way to start things like that imo is to not give a shit if it will look like shit. otherwise i guess you could join some kind of organization, idk, maybe something in politics, maybe at the university, whatever, they are happy and encouraging for doing something, though its mostly unpaid shitty work like giving flyers for some event of theirs. but slowly you get into it and think about "which event could i create?". or write a fucking essay about how you feel about art or your life or something

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:29:55 No.6320359 ?>>6320459

>>6320285

why video games specifically? what about tabletop and card games? what do you think a video game is? You're probably just old.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:33:37 No.6320368 ?>>6320459

>>6320332

>>6320285

> What is wrong with reading?

It's a waste of fucking time you stupid fucking twat. PLAY. PLAY. PLAY. PLAY. Shut the fuck up, turn on your computer and play video games and only turn it back off when you feel you've played hard enough to warrant a rest. Jesus christ "what wrong with reading". You've been behind a book so long you don't even know you're looking at one. Never read books again and become a better, happier and more thoughtful person (and a lot more fun to be around).

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:47:05 No.6320414 ?

>>6320041

This.

It is the best way to broaden one's horizon.

Not to say fiction can't do it...

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)16:52:20 No.6320428 ?

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>>6320083

idk, tell me about you

share your pains with me

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:04:43 No.6320459 ?>>6320477 >>6320492 >>6320504 >>6320568 >>6320728 >>6321222

>>6320319

>>6320320

>>6320327

>>6320332

>>6320359

>>6320368

Look. I didn't say videogames can't be art, and yes I was being very hyperbolic, but here's a fact: the online gaming world is largely a waste of time to participate in. Why add more screen-watching to your day? Don't you find it fucking addictive and lonely? Don't you ever feel empty watching the time go by, getting attached to stupid, meaningless aspects of games? I'm 25 years old. I'm not saying I'm superhuman and spend my time hyper efficiently, but stimming on a game night after night seems repulsive to me now. You should be working and exercising and reading and writing and doing intellectually stimulating shit. Gaming is not productive.

>inb4 "yes/ sorry Dad"

You can live however you want, I don't care about any of you. Just think about how you spend your time because these years are formative and they fly by.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:09:04 No.6320477 ?

>>6320459

>I don't care about any of you.

Okay anon...

I agree with you otherwise. Screen time is one of the most destructive habits of the modern world. It erodes people's social sanity... I think so many problems in the USA stem from television and other forms of screen time.

It is depersonalizing.

Read E Unibus Pluram by DFW (peace be upon him)

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:09:40 No.6320478 ?

[]Reginault 8 points 6 months ago

What if I'm blandly apathetic and happy?

[]MJOLNIRdragoon 8 points 6 months ago

Then you have life figured out.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:09:46 No.6320479 ?

>>6320323

Besides what the other poster said about Beethoven, Hamlet didn't turn out so bad in the end either. He finally seized the initiative and did the heroic thing, and was memorialized by Fortinbras as a great man.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:15:52 No.6320492 ?>>6320569 >>6320745

>>6320459

idk, pretty much the only socializing I do is talking to people in online games. if i didn't i would be really alone. But people usually have other interests as well as gaming.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:19:37 No.6320504 ?>>6320530 >>6320567 >>6320599

>>6320459

I'm still saying it sounds like great advice if you hate yourself

can't live life like you're studying for an exam, reading and exercising and maaaybe working and doing intellectually stimulating shit are all great but it gotta come natural, motivating yourself by wishing to be "a good person" and then doing obligatory good person stuff and throwing all the things you like in the trash and running away from your past self is probably a bad idea

it's probably better to be a successful big-dicked billionaire philosopher bodybuilder than some loser playing video games, but at the same time it's probably better to be some loser playing video games than some moderately successful limp-dicked middle class intellectual who runs on the weekends and is deathly afraid of turning back into a loser playing video games

t. loser playing video games

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:26:21 No.6320524 ?

>>6320013 (OP)

The question is how can somebody contribute to our society is a big question and in the end it all depend on what you feel.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:29:36 No.6320529 ?

>>6320076

Try contributing to good causes, like free software.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:30:02 No.6320530 ?>>6320577

>>6320504

As far as mental happiness goes, that's wrong, at least for most people.

Happiness is tied quite strongly with levels of physical activity and social adaptivity. It may not be true for you, but most people do not feel happy with a completely sedative lifestyle. Studies bear this out on a personal level (people are more depressed the more screen time they have) and it seems to hold true on a societal level (depression levels keep rising along with screen time).

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:42:29 No.6320567 ?>>6320577

>>6320504

THAT'S great advice if you hate yourself. You're a loser right now, but maybe if you cultivate some fucking faith you might surprise yourself. You're not giving yourself enough credit.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:44:02 No.6320568 ?>>6320573

>>6320459

Who says I dont exercise? Regularly, I work out for 2 hours, I read on a daily basis, and soon I will be dealing with the last of my major. That doesn't mean that I will stop doing things that I enjoy, like watching films, playing video games (although I don't play daily), going out with friends, fucking girls, attending to the theater for some classical music presentation given the chance. If there is something that I want to stop doing is wasting so much time on the internet, and by that I mean wasting my time on this website. It has been 4 years already with this one.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:45:02 No.6320569 ?

>>6320492

Sounds weak to me. And it sounds like you're generally unhappy and haven't managed to man up and think about all the shit you don't want to think about, ever.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:46:30 No.6320573 ?>>6320638

>>6320568

Sounds like you're doing fine, asshole. Maybe if you cut out the videogames you'd be doing finer.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:48:55 No.6320577 ?>>6320764 >>6320798

>>6320530

Eh, you got me with physical exercise, but you don't have to be a friendless fucker to be a loser playing video games, nor did i imply that.

>>6320567

Whenever I say loser, imagine big fat quote marks around the word.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)17:56:52 No.6320599 ?>>6320634

>>6320504

Are you joking?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:03:24 No.6320619 ?>>6320759

There's nothing wrong with playing video games. But playing video games extensively? Thats when it becomes a problem. I have an alarm set for one hour on the weekdays and two on the weekends. As soon as that alarm goes off, I stop playing. I think video games are perfectly fine in moderation. They're fun as hell.

OP have you tried any volunteering?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:08:37 No.6320634 ?>>6320763

>>6320599

Why would I be? You think doing things out of fear instead of because they interest you is a good thing? You think you will be anything but a mediocre phony by working to be a "good person"?

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:09:39 No.6320638 ?

>>6320573

Perhaps some day I will be able to move past this place and drop video games all together. I don't enjoy em that much anymore, but the thing is that there is nothing wrong with enjoying em as long as it is not stopping you from enjoying the rest of your god damn life.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:37:33 No.6320728 ?

>>6320459

>stimming on a game night after night seems repulsive to me now. You should be working and exercising and reading and writing and doing intellectually stimulating shit. Gaming is not productive.

Agree wholeheartedly. Also 25. I quit video games a few months ago, and I've never felt smarter. I can't say I'm happier, but I feel less... empty. I don't hate on gaming, but playing is just too time-consuming. My time is better spent and more fulfilling reading books and information, watching lectures and films, and going to workshops or meetups. That's just me, though.

I remember reading a post a few days ago that made me laugh - "playing video games is the intellectual equivalent to picking your nose"

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:41:08 No.6320745 ?

>>6320492

>if i didn't i would be really alone

Try meetup.com or something. Meeting people is easier than you think - it just takes a little initiative.

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>>6320217

Then do neither,

Set yourself a realistic, achievable and definite goal. (I'll use music as an example since you mentioned Beethoven)

Don't be devoted to passion and set a goal like "I will revolutionise the world of music and bring it to its cultural peak"

Be devoted to passion and set a goal like

"I will record an album, each and every track I am happy with upon completion."

Then set yourself another, achievable task ad infinitum.

As long as you continue to set tasks is cool dog

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:43:37 No.6320759 ?

>>6320619

great idea with the alarm. I like your style. Some people, however, lack the willpower to subdue their desires. I was one of them, so I had to quit altogether. Just me, though.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:44:26 No.6320763 ?>>6320844

>>6320634

You may not know this through no fault of your own but when you start exercising and doing "good person" things on a regular things they become enjoyable.

When you designate a goal for your personal development that you actually care about reaching, undertaking the tasks that get you closer to that goal become enjoyable and fulfilling.

nigga we're creatures of habit.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:44:31 No.6320764 ?

>>6320577

>Whenever I say loser, imagine big fat quote marks around the word.

Oh yeah? Whenever I hear some idiot trying to backpedal and articulate the oh-so-precise manner in which he's a loser, it makes me think he's actually a fucking loser. Put quote marks around that if you want, fatty. See if the bell don't a-ring truer. Enjoy your gaming.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:51:26 No.6320798 ?>>6320832 >>6320880

>>6320577

I don't mean playing video games makes you friendless, I do mean to imply that screen time is typically associated with a literal feeling of alienation. For example, we are socially interacting right now, but it is in a very abstracted and asocial manner. So while two distinct very whole human beings are behind each of these posts, we have about as much empathy for each other as we do for our fellow drivers when on the road (not very much).

This is not because either of us are soulless monsters, but because the social interaction that screen time acts as a surrogate for is not wholly replaced by the surrogate. It lacks emotional weight.

This is why the internet is full of trolling and absolute dickery. It's the same reason we indict fellow drivers as incompetent piece-of-shit ass holes.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:52:54 No.6320805 ?

>>6320332

>hell, I would argue that in 200 or so years, video games will probably eclipse books in terms of artistic merit

hell, I would argue you're an idiot.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)18:58:23 No.6320820 ?

>>6320013 (OP)

Stop caring, live for shitposting, shitposting is the way to nirvana, don't listen to anyone else here. The harder you try at anything, the more likely you are to fail, and the more emotionally invested you are, the harder it'll feel. Stop thinking, stop feeling, keep shitposting.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:00:34 No.6320832 ?

>>6320798

It amazes me that people don't actually give this kind of framework any attention in their daily lives.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:02:33 No.6320841 ?

This thread has nicely derailed into r9k, fit, and v.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:03:05 No.6320844 ?

>>6320763

Agreed. Take, for example, eating healthy. Once you start eating nutritious, well-rounded and even-portioned meals, you start to appreciate cuisine more. Gluttony becomes a thing of the past, cheap crap becomes less appealing (even revolting, in some cases), and you start to really appreciate a well-cooked meal.

My example may or may not fit entirely, but I thought I'd share all the same.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:07:54 No.6320858 ?

>>6320332

Stop trying to convince people that video games are, or could be, art or artistic. Nobody cares. Do it for yourself. If you think that video games are art, great. You likely have an audience amongst your peers, so go and talk with them about games and how great they are, and people here will talk about their own interests (which unfortunately involves way more shit-talking than praise, but the assholes are always the loudest). Ignore the nay-sayers and move on.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:15:34 No.6320880 ?>>6320925

>>6320798

I think video games can give you a positive social experience online and offline. You can have a lot of fun playing and talking with other people. Ive met a couple of people through playing video games offline and they're all cool, perfectly functioning dudes.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:28:39 No.6320925 ?

>>6320880

Me too, don't get me wrong. I've had many great experiences online. But there *is* something different. I feel like I've had the whole gamut of online relationships and real-life relationships. Romantic and friendly internet relationships are of a wholly different nature than their real-life counterparts. That does not mean they aren't satisfying, but you cannot sustain yourself on that social interaction alone. And the more and more you rely on it, the more you deprive yourself.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:31:49 No.6320934 ?>>6320994

The idea that working and being part of the economy somehow doesn't make you a leech is incredibly short sighted. Consumerism is literally being a leech and it's what modern society is built on.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:48:23 No.6320994 ?>>6321028

>>6320934

You mean modern Western society

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)19:56:29 No.6321028 ?

>>6320994

It's been what society has always been based on.

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Anonymous 03/26/15(Thu)20:43:13 No.6321222 ?

>>6320459

what if i watch shakespeare on screen

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)00:30:47 No.6321951 ?

>>6320056

>What if the act and process of contribution itself is boring? Will you change your mind about the value of contribution?

I'll probably kill myself then. There is no point trying to prolong the stay anymore.

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)00:34:16 No.6321957 ?

>>6320013 (OP)

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)00:34:30 No.6321959 ?

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ALL THESE SPOOKS.

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)00:48:23 No.6322007?

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>>6320177

Yeah, I've also thought about this. It's as if you feel so worthless or leech in OP's terms that you ought to prove yourself to the world. It's like some talented people say, they couldn't care less about success since their aptitude is so natural to them, while others who aren't particularly talented dishes out more work to prove themselves. They have more desire to prove themselves and do more work.

Anyway, I've been feeling this feel the longest time now over the course of years.

Since this thread has gotten replies a bit, I'll venture to ask. What is life for you /lit/? Currently the answer I've found introspecting is creation. Life is all about creation, giving life and passing your genes, creating new solutions to problems, and lastly maintaining. Creation and maintenance. Once you've been born you have to do all the menial tasks to keep your body, teeth, eyes and so on in shape. Create relationships and maintain the bonds. Same for software, buildings, so on and forth.

This has been giving me the biggest feels for the longest time now so I hope to receive some advice on this. Thank you OP for providing this platform. I was about to take a break from /lit/ too.. glad I saw this thread. This is why I can not quit /lit/.

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)00:54:31 No.6322022?>>6322054

>>6320114

In contrast to OP, I have motivation. Just very insecure and full of self-doubt. Nonetheless, I'm not so sure I will be good at anything. And I don't want to fuck around side-stepping on my chosen path. I'm only concerned about the forward-thinking approach.

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)01:09:08 No.6322054?

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>>6322022

This makes me wanna call it quits on life of course. Unless I'll do well on my chosen endeavor I feel like I'll never be fulfilled and thus feel pointless to go on.

Fwiw, I tried shrooms not long ago with a positive or neutral mindstate and all I got from it was me spouting 'life is so pointless' with a bittersweet grin, which isn't anything new. I already said that several times when sober. You're my only hope /it/. Please, shed some light on me. Otherwise, I'll probably join the 27 Club.

I don't usually worry about thread life, but since this has stayed a while so far I hope the mods will continue let it be. This is really the most important thing for me. Ever. ;_;

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)01:13:46 No.6322066?

>>6320459

I'd enjoy games more if they respected my time. It's problematic when gamers find their massive time sinks something of a non-issue. A 15-hour RPG is considered too short. One hundred hours spent playing a MOBA is considered nothing. Shameful yet proud boasts of hundreds of hours sunk in to WoW. Etcetera.

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Anonymous 03/27/15(Fri)01:33:10 No.6322114?

>>6320798

>>6320477

Listen to what this anon says. Why do you think moot quit at 26? He's spent all his life in front of the screen, he actually wants to go full innawoods cause he finally realized it himself. We're all getting older. It's why I'm also been trying to quit /lit/ too, I'm so addicted to it to the point that it consumes all my time, but this type of discussions makes me want to come back all the time.

Don't even mention that recent studies have shown that people with more television time has less brain density. This should speak for itself.

About the vidya games topic, there is no absolutely harm to play. Like with anything it's all about moderation. If you find that it's not the case and you can't juggle it... Well, consider your situation. Games have it pros and cons. It can enhance your reaction time, can keep your brain active, but it also has cons as well which you must naturally acknowledge.

Same with 4chan. We get to discuss like this, expand our knowledge and worldview, but it also comes with cons. Cons that should be close to home since you're an anon yourself.