Doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/2386r4 Submission September 2007 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 1 TGn ad hoc Opening Report - Sep 12-14 ‘07 Date: 2007-Sep-12 Authors:

September 2007

Bruce Kraemer, Marvell

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TGn ad hoc Opening Report - Sep 12-14 ‘07

Date: 2007-Sep-12

Authors:

5488 Marvell Lane,Santa Clara, CA, 95054

Name Company Address Phone email Bruce Kraemer Marvell +1-321 -427-

4098

bkraemer@ marvell .com

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Welcome to HawaiiSep 12-14

Hilton Waikoloa Meetings RoomsKona 4 – classroom 35 Kona 3 - U shape – 20Kona 2 - Square – 15

breaks in foyer lunch in Lagoon Lanai

no other events using these rooms

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Set up information

• SSID = tgnadhoc

• Cell phone signal seems to be adequate

• Documentation– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/documents

– Remove warning label from front pages

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Pre-registrationsTally Last Name First Name Email

1 Adachi Tomoko [email protected] Bagby David [email protected] Bjerke Bjorn [email protected] Chan Douglas [email protected] Erceg Vinko [email protected] Feinberg Paul [email protected] Fischer Matthew [email protected] Ketchum John [email protected] Kim joonsuk [email protected] Kraemer Bruce [email protected] Loc Peter [email protected] Moorti Rajendra [email protected] Perahia Eldad [email protected] Petranovich James [email protected] Raissinia Ali [email protected] Rosdahl Jon [email protected] Stephens Adrian [email protected] van Zelst Allert [email protected] Vlantis George [email protected] Wentink Menzo [email protected] Zhang Hongyuan [email protected]

July Attendees =30

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AttendeesTally Last Name First Name Email

1 Adachi Tomoko [email protected] Bagby David [email protected] Bjerke Bjorn [email protected] Chan Douglas [email protected] Erceg Vinko [email protected] Feinberg Paul [email protected] Fischer Matthew [email protected] Ketchum John [email protected] Kim joonsuk [email protected] Kraemer Bruce [email protected] Loc Peter [email protected] Moorti Rajendra [email protected] Morioka Yuichi Sony14 Perahia Eldad [email protected] Petranovich James [email protected] Raissinia Ali [email protected] Rosdahl Jon [email protected] Smith Matt Atheros19 Stephens Adrian [email protected] van Zelst Allert [email protected] Vlantis George [email protected] Wentink Menzo [email protected] Zhang Hongyuan [email protected]

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TGn Ad Hoc Organization

Ad Hoc Topic Ad hoc leader In Hawaii ad hoc?

PSMP Naveen Kakani No

Frame Format Peter Loc Yes

PHY Jim Petranovich Yes

MAC Matt Fischer Yes

Coexistence Eldad Perahia Yes

General Joe Levy No

Beamforming & Adaptation John Ketchum

Joonsuk Kim

Yes

Yes

TGn Bruce Kraemer Yes

Editorial Adrian Stephens Yes

CA Doc Sheung Li No

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New Policies•Policies and Procedures:

• IEEE Patent Policy - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt• Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.

• Affiliation FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html

• Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf

• Ethics - http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/about/CoE_poster.pdf

• IEEE 802.11 Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/11/DocFiles/06/11-06-0812-03-0000-802-11-policies-and-proceedures.htm

• IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/policies-and-procedures.pdf

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Instructions for the WG ChairThe IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee:

– Show slides #1 through #5 of this presentation– Advise the WG attendees that:

• The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws;

• Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is encouraged;

• There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development.

– Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting:

• That the foregoing information was provided and the five slides were shown; • That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent

claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard;

• Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.

• It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in the Standards Companion on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by normative reference.

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Highlights of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards

– Participants have a duty to tell the IEEE if they know (based on personal awareness) of potentially Essential Patent Claims they or their employer own

– Participants are encouraged to tell the IEEE if they know of potentially Essential Patent Claims owned by others

• This encouragement is particularly strong as the third party may not be a participant in the standards process– Working Group required to request assurance– Early assurance is encouraged– Terms of assurance shall be either:

• Reasonable and nondiscriminatory, with or without monetary compensation; or,• A statement of non-assertion of patent rights

– Assurances• Shall be provided on the IEEE-SA Standards Board approved LOA form• May optionally include not-to-exceed rates, terms, and conditions• Shall not be circumvented through sale or transfer of patents• Shall be brought to the attention of any future assignees or transferees• Shall apply to Affiliates unless explicitly excluded• Are irrevocable once submitted and accepted• Shall be supplemented if Submitter becomes aware of other potential Essential Patent Claims

– A “Blanket Letter of Assurance” may be provided at the option of the patent holder– A patent holder has no duty to perform a patent search– Full policy available at http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6

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6.2 Policy

IEEE standards may be drafted in terms that include the use of Essential Patent Claims. If the IEEE receives notice that a [Proposed] IEEE Standard may require the use of a potential Essential Patent Claim, the IEEE shall request licensing assurance, on the IEEE Standards Board approved Letter of Assurance form, from the patent holder or patent applicant. The IEEE shall request this assurance without coercion.

The Submitter of the Letter of Assurance may, after Reasonable and Good Faith Inquiry, indicate it is not aware of any Patent Claims that the Submitter may own, control, or have the ability to license that might be or become Essential Patent Claims. If the patent holder or patent applicant provides an assurance, it should do so as soon as reasonably feasible in the standards development process. This assurance shall be provided prior to the Standards Board’s approval of the standard. This assurance shall be provided prior to a reaffirmation if the IEEE receives notice of a potential Essential Patent Claim after the standard’s approval or a prior reaffirmation. An asserted potential Essential Patent Claim for which an assurance cannot be obtained (e.g., a Letter of Assurance is not provided or the Letter of Assurance indicates that assurance is not being provided) shall be referred to the Patent Committee.

A Letter of Assurance shall be either:

a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the Submitter without conditions will not enforce any present or future Essential Patent Claims against any person or entity making, using, selling, offering to sell, importing, distributing, or implementing a compliant implementation of the standard; or

b) A statement that a license for a compliant implementation of the standard will be made available to an unrestricted number of applicants on a worldwide basis without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. At its sole option, the Submitter may provide with its assurance any of the following: (i) a not-to-exceed license fee or rate commitment, (ii) a sample license agreement, or (iii) one or more material licensing terms.

IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards

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Copies of an Accepted LOA may be provided to the working group, but shall not be discussed, at any standards working group meeting.

The Submitter and all Affiliates (other than those Affiliates excluded in a Letter of Assurance) shall not assign or otherwise transfer any rights in any Essential Patent Claims that are the subject of such Letter of Assurance that they hold, control, or have the ability to license with the intent of circumventing or negating any of the representations and commitments made in such Letter of Assurance.

The Submitter of a Letter of Assurance shall agree (a) to provide notice of a Letter of Assurance either through a Statement of Encumbrance or by binding any assignee or transferee to the terms of such Letter of Assurance; and (b) to require its assignee or transferee to (i) agree to similarly provide such notice and (ii) to bind its assignees or transferees to agree to provide such notice as described in (a) and (b).

This assurance shall apply to the Submitter and its Affiliates except those Affiliates the Submitter specifically excludes on the relevant Letter of Assurance.

If, after providing a Letter of Assurance to the IEEE, the Submitter becomes aware of additional Patent Claim(s) not already covered by an existing Letter of Assurance that are owned, controlled, or licensable by the Submitter that may be or become Essential Patent Claim(s) for the same IEEE Standard but are not the subject of an existing Letter of Assurance, then such Submitter shall submit a Letter of Assurance stating its position regarding enforcement or licensing of such Patent Claims. For the purposes of this commitment, the Submitter is deemed to be aware if any of the following individuals who are from, employed by, or otherwise represent the Submitter have personal knowledge of additional potential Essential Patent Claims, owned or controlled by the Submitter, related to a [Proposed] IEEE Standard and not already the subject of a previously submitted Letter of Assurance: (a) past or present participants in the development of the [Proposed] IEEE Standard, or (b) the individual executing the previously submitted Letter of Assurance.


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The assurance is irrevocable once submitted and accepted and shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal.

The IEEE is not responsible for identifying Essential Patent Claims for which a license may be required, for conducting inquiries into the legal validity or scope of those Patent Claims, or for determining whether any licensing terms or conditions are reasonable or non-discriminatory.

Nothing in this policy shall be interpreted as giving rise to a duty to conduct a patent search. No license is implied by the submission of a Letter of Assurance.

In order for IEEE’s patent policy to function efficiently, individuals participating in the standards development process: (a) shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware and that are not already the subject of an existing Letter of Assurance, owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents; and (b) should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims that are not already the subject of an existing Letter of Assurance.


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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings• All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable

laws, including antitrust and competition laws.

• Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.

• Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.

– Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.

• Technical considerations remain primary focus

• Don’t discuss fixing product prices, allocation of customers, or dividing sales markets.

• Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.

• Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.---------------------------------------------------------------

If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html

See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more

details.This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt 5

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Question

• Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard?

• Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.

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Draft 3.0 ScheduleFocus on Technical Comments

Event

• March Orlando• April – telecon only

• May ad hoc

• May interim

• July ad hoc

• July Plenary

• Sept ad hoc

• Sept interim

Activity

• organize for submissions

• Prepare submissions

• Review subs for voting

• May interim

• July ad hoc

• July Plenary

• Sept ad hoc

• Sept interim

Original Plan

• 100

• 100

• 500

• 100

• 500

• 100

• 200

• 0

Following the Sept meeting, assuming all comments are resolved and the WG approves them, Draft 3.0 will prepared by the Technical Editor based upon instructions to the editor approved in the Sept interim.Draft 3.0 will then be distributed as a 15 day WG recirculation letter ballot.

May

• 0

• 0

• 0

• 450

• 0

• 700

• 0

• 550

July

• 0

• 0

• 0

• 450

• 0

• 750

• 0

• 500

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TGn Voting History

LB 84 Comment Resolution

Comment Resolution95 LB 97

1.0

2.0

1.10

2.02

Comment Resolutionxx

3.0 3.x

1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09

Jul ‘06 Sep ‘06 Nov ‘06 Jan ‘07

Feb ‘07 May ‘07

Mar ‘06

2.01

Sep ’07 session

2.042.03 2.05 2.06 2.07

July ‘07

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Comment Spreadsheets

Ad Hoc Topic Ad hoc leader file # July 15 4 pm

Sep 09 noon

Composite TG 07-0336 05 07

MAC Matt Fischer 07-0338 14 22

Coexistence Eldad Perahia 07-0339 11 18

PHY Jim Petranovich 07-0341 09 14

Beamforming & Adaptation

John Ketchum

Joonsuk Kim

07-0342 11 13

TGn all Bruce Kraemer 07-0343 00 00

Frame Format Peter Loc 07-0353 08 11

Editorial Adrian Stephens 07-0366 04 07

PSMP Naveen Kakani 07-0367 09 09

General Joe Levy 07-0368 09 12

CA Doc Sheung Li

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Summary of the status of the ad-hoc groups – as of Sept 12th

Owning Ad-hoc Unassigned Assigned Resolved Approved Editorial Duplicate Withdrawn Grand TotalBEAM 25 25COEX 1 152 31 184

EDITOR 2 1202 1146 290 11 2651FRAME 63 25 88

GEN 3 10 1 14MAC 27 107 33 167PHY 1 26 27

PSMP 4 2 6TGN 1 1

Grand Total 37 385 92 1202 1146 290 11 3163

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Wednesday Agenda Plan

Duration Start timeMeeting room setup 6:00 AMBreakfast setup 7:45 AMAd hoc Leaders Meeting 60 8:00 AMGroup Meeting plans/updates 30 9:00 AMAd hoc #1 60 9:30 AMbreak 15 10:30 AMAd hoc #2 105 10:45 AMlunch 60 12:30 PMAd hoc #3 120 1:30 PMbreak 15 3:30 PMAd hoc #4 135 3:45 PMend of day 6:00 PM

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Thur & Fri Agenda Plan (Outline)

Duration Start timeBreakfast setup 7:45 AMInitial gathering 15 8:15 AMAd hoc #1 120 8:30 AMbreak 15 10:30 AMAd hoc #2 105 10:45 AMlunch 60 12:30 PMAd hoc #3 120 1:30 PMbreak 15 3:30 PMAd hoc #4 135 3:45 PMend of day 6:00 PM

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Special Notes• Each morning convene in Kona 4 at 8:15 for special announcements or

agenda revisions

• Technical Editor: 0 sessions

• FF: No scheduled overlap with MAC

• PSMP: Naveen is absent - Adrian will chair if needed

• General: 1 session in ad hoc

• Beam: No scheduled overlap with PHY

• MAC: No scheduled overlap with Coex

• Coex & PHY: No scheduled overlap

• PHY:

• Coexistence:

• All hands meetings: ???

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Ad hoc time assignment plan

slots assigned• MAC 6 slots (1 non-overlapping)• Coex 5 slots (4 non-overlapping)• PHY 3 slots• Frame 2 slots• Beam 2 slots• PSMP 0 slots• Gen 1 slot• Ed 0 slots• Total 19

Theoretical Slot time = 3 rooms x 3 days x 4 slots = 36Reasonable slots = 2 rooms x 3 days x 4 slots = 24

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Wednesday Sep 12

Duration Start time Kona 4 Kona 335 20

Initial gathering 30 9:00 AM P

Ad hoc #1 60 9:30 AM Coexbreak 15 10:30 AMAd hoc #2 105 10:45 AM Coexlunch 60 12:30 PMAd hoc #3 120 1:30 PM Beam MACbreak 15 3:30 PMAd hoc #4 195 3:45 PM PHY MACend of day 7:00 PM

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Thursday Sep 13



Ad hoc #1 120 8:30 AM PHY MACbreak 15 10:30 AMAd hoc #2 105 10:45 AM BEAM MAClunch 60 12:30 PMAd hoc #3 120 1:30 PM Coex Framebreak 15 3:30 PMAd hoc #4 195 3:45 PM Coexend of day 7:00 PM

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Thursday Sep 13



Ad hoc #1 120 8:30 AM MACbreak 15 10:30 AMAd hoc #2 105 10:45 AM MAC BEAMlunch 60 12:30 PMAd hoc #3 120 1:30 PM Coex Framebreak 15 3:30 PMAd hoc #4 195 3:45 PM Coexend of day 7:00 PM

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Friday Sep 14



Ad hoc #1 120 8:30 AM PHY/BEAM FRAMEbreak 15 10:30 AMAd hoc #2 105 10:45 AM MAC GENERALlunch 60 12:30 PMAd hoc #3 120 1:30 PM MACbreak 15 3:30 PMAd hoc #4 105 3:45 PM COEXgroup planning 30 5:30 PM ALLend of day 6:00 PM

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TGn – Sep ‘07 Schedule

TGK

Dinner BreakBreak

SOCIAL EVENINGTGN [1/2]

TGS TGV

TGN [1]

DLS SG

TGK TGYVTS SG

TGR TGP TGVTGV TGRIMT AHC

TGN [1]

TG MB

TGU TGTQSE SG

TGN [1/2]

VTS SG

TGS

Dinner Break

Break Break Break Break

Lunch Break Lunch Break

TGS TGV TGR TGPTGN [1/2]

TG MB

TGKVHT SG

TGN [1]

TGT TGK TGK TGP TGR TGS

MID-SESSION PLENARYwith WG Inter-Change Included

TGV TGW TGT TGUVHT SG

TGP TGW TGS TGVDLS SG

TGTIEEE 802.11 WORKING GROUP

TGN [1/2]

Break Break Break Break

OPENING PLENARY.21

& JOINT INTER-CHANGE

VHT SG

TGN [1/2]

TGR TGK TGT TGU

IEEE 802.11 / 802.15 JOINT WIRELESS WNG

SCTGY TGR TGV TGW TGS

TGU

MONDAY (17th) TUESDAY (18th) WEDNESDAY (19th) THURSDAY (20th)

802.11 WG, TG, SG, SC EDITORS MEETING

802.11 WG CHAIRs ADVISORY COMMITTEE

PREPARATION MEETING

TGT

TGW TGUTGN [1/2]

TGS TGR TGU

TGS

TGR TGUTGN [1/2]

QSE SG

Lunch Break Lunch Break

TGU

TGN [1/2]

TGV

TGT TGR

802.11 Session Attendance Extra Credit Slots One per Evening

Joint Meeting

am1

am2

pm1

pm2

eve

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TGn – September ‘07 Schedule

Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday

am 1

8:00-10:00 Ad hocsMonarchy Queens 6

am 2

10:30-12:30 Ad hocsMonarchy

Kings 3

Ad hocsMonarchyQueens 6

lunch 12:30-13:30

pm 1

13:30-15:30 Full TGn

Monarchy

Ad hocsMonarchy

Kings 3


pm 2


Kings 1

Full TGn

Monarchy

Full TGn

Monarchy

eve 19:30-21:30 Ad hocsMonarchy

Kings 1

Ad hocsMonarchy

Kings 3

Sep 17 Sep 18 Sep 19 Sep 20

?? TGR

??TGW

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am 1

8:00-10:00 Ad hocsMonarchy Queens 6

am 2


Kings 3


lunch 12:30-13:30

pm 1

13:30-15:30 Full TGn

Monarchy

Ad hocsMonarchy

Kings 3


pm 2


Kings 1

Full TGn

Monarchy

Full TGn

Monarchy

eve 19:30-21:30 Ad hocsMonarchy

Kings 1

Full TGn

Monarchy


?? TGR

??TGW

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am 1

8:00-10:00 Ad hocsCOEXMAC

am 2

10:30-12:30 Ad hocsMACPHY

Ad hocsCOEXMAC

lunch 12:30-13:30

pm 1

13:30-15:30 Full TGn

Monarchy

Ad hocsCOEX

FRAME

Ad hocsCOEXMAC

pm 2

16:00-18:00 Ad hocsCOEX

General

Full TGn

Monarchy

+ MAC

Full TGn

Monarchy

eve 19:30-21:30 Ad hocsBEAMMAC

Full TGn

Monarchy

+ COEX


?? TGR

??TGW

COEX/MAC Overlap

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COEX/MAC Overlap ad hoc Time Allocations

MAC COEX BEAM PHY FRAME GEN

Pre

Ad hoc

765 585 285 255 240 120 2250

Sept Session

660 660 120 120 120 120 1800

+1 780 780 120 120 120 120 2040

+2 900 900 120 120 120 120 2280

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am 1


am 2

10:30-12:30 Ad hocsMACPHY

Ad hocsMAC

lunch 12:30-13:30

pm 1

13:30-15:30 Full TGn

Monarchy

Ad hocsCOEX

FRAME

Ad hocsCOEX

pm 2


General

Full TGn

Monarchy

+ MAC

Full TGn

Monarchy

eve 19:30-21:30 Ad hocsBEAMMAC

Full TGn

Monarchy

+ COEX


?? TGR

??TGW

No COEX/ MAC Overlap

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COEX/MAC NO overlap ad hoc Time Allocations


Pre

Ad hoc

765 585 285 255 240 120 2250

Session 420 540 120 120 120 120 1440

+1 420 660 120 120 120 120 1560

+2 540 660 120 120 120 120 1680

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Likely TGn – November ‘07 Schedule


am 1

8:00-10:00 Ad hocs

12

am 2

10:30-12:30 Ad hocs

4 Ad hocs

14

lunch 12:30-13:30

pm 1

13:30-15:30 Ad hocs

6

Ad hocs

8

pm 2

16:00-18:00 Full TGn

2 Full TGn

10

Full TGn

16

eve 19:30-21:30

Nov 12 Nov 13 Nov 14 Nov 15

Ad hoc8 – 9:30

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COEX/MAC NO overlap ad hoc Time Allocations

November


Telecon

7 slots

840

Pre

Ad hoc

810 810 0 0 0 0 1620

Session 360 360 0 0 0 0 1440

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COEX & MAC Time Required to complete

vs time availableMAC COEX

Sept Pre Ad hoc 765 585

Based upon

Pre Ad hoc

1500 1500

Sept session time

Best case

540 660

telecons 480 360

3 day Atlanta ad hoc 810 810

Atlanta session 360 360

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Friday News• Dear Stuart, Al, Harry and Bruce,

• I was requested to distribute the attached letter regarding the IEEE SA Standards Board 802.11n LOA concern to you, the 802.11 Working Group Chair and the 802.11 Working Group. Stuart (or Al or Harry) please promptly distribute it to the 802.11 Working Group on my behalf. I did not receive the letter until today, 14SEP07, hence I won't offer any specific guidance or answer any questions at this time, we should talk as soon as possible though.

• Additionally, I know there will be questions and concerns from the group regarding this letter, therefore, I have asked for a 1 hour telecon meeting to be held next week between the appropriate parties from SASB (a SASB leader, a PatCom leader), IEEE SA Staff, IEEE Legal Counsel, myself and any interested parties from the 802.11 Working Group for sometime between 10AM ET and 6:30PM ET Wednesday 19 September. I suggest 1PM-2PM ET for the sake of a setting a specific time. Please confirm this time is OK.

• Other than promptly distributing the letter and asking WG members to begin considering it, an immediate response is not expected by SASB. However, I do think some form of a response from the 802.11 WG to SASB will be needed no later than the end of the November plenary session. We must begin planning for that response and I welcome suggestions from you and the WG as to what may be appropriate.

• Regards,

• --Paul Nikolich• IEEE 802 LMSC Chairman

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Questions, Implications, Next Steps

• Impact on a & g, MB

• Impact on publication of D 3.0

• Work around area of IP concern

•

•

• 5 minute topic in Monday opening Plenary• 1 hour telecon meeting to be held next week between the appropriate

parties from SASB (a SASB leader, a PatCom leader), IEEE SA Staff, IEEE Legal Counsel, myself and any interested parties from the 802.11 Working Group (tentatively 7AM HST Wednesday 19 September)

• Group topic during Wed 802.11 plenary• Group topic during Fri 802.11 plenary• “What next” Plans up to November

Documents

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