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Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel, LLC

Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

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Page 1: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case Studies

James (Jim) Swain, JD

Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC

Valerie Peterson, JD

Executive Director of ElderCounsel, LLC

Page 2: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #1WWII Veteran (85) and Spouse (deceased)Veteran is in a Memory Care UnitAnnuity has $150,000 of gainTotal Net Worth = $495,000

• House = $110,000• IRA = $ 25,000• Annuity = $350,000• Liquid assets = $ 10,000

Page 3: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #1

Total Current Income = $2,500Total Current UME = (4,881)IVAP = $ 0

Can qualify for Pension

Page 4: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #1

After Plan is ImplementedTotal Current Income = $4,469

Total Current UME = (4,881)IVAP = $ 0

Can qualify for Full Pension

Page 5: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #1 – Recommendations

1. Income tax analysis for IRA withdrawal$1,500

2. VAPT (Veterans Asset Protection Trust) for assets 7,000

3. Transfer House to IDGT 4,000

4. Purchase SPIA with $120,000 of annuity – 5 year payout

5. Leave $25,000 in Ira and $10,000 in joint account with children

6. Transfer excess assets to VAPT

7. Withdraw $30,000 from annuity

TOTAL INVESTMENT $12,500

Page 6: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #1 – Benefits to Client

1. Qualify for VA Pension (5 year benefit) $98,600

2. Reduces future income tax liability on annuity 45,000

3. Start clock for Medicaid

BENEFITS$143,600ROI (return on Investment) 1,149%

Page 7: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #2WWII Veteran (85) and Spouse (84)Veteran is in a Memory Care UnitSpouse is in good healthLong Term Policy paying $3,000 per monthTotal Net Worth = $667,300

• House = $350,000• IRA = $ 91,000• Liquid assets = $226,300

Page 8: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #2

Total Current Income = $9,391Total Current UME = (6,701)IVAP = $2,689

Can not qualify for Pension

Page 9: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #2

After Plan is ImplementedTotal Current Income = $6,701

Total Current UME = (6,701)IVAP = $ 0

Can now qualify for Full Pension

Page 10: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #2 – Recommendations

1. Income tax analysis for IRA withdrawal$1,500

2. VAPT (Veterans Asset Protection Trust) for assets 7,000

3. Transfer House to IDGT 4,000

4. Reduce LTC Payments to stretch-out LTC payments

5. Leave $30,000 in joint accounts with children

6. Transfer excess assets to VAPT

TOTAL INVESTMENT $12,500

Page 11: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #2 – Benefits to Client

1. Qualify for VA Pension (5 year benefit) $116,940

2. Stretch-out LTC Payments

3. Reduces income tax liability on IRA 15,000

4. Start clock for Medicaid

BENEFITS$116,900ROI (return on Investment) 1,056%

Page 12: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3WWII Veteran (85) and Spouse (59)Veteran is in a Memory Care UnitSpouse is in good health3RD marriage for veteran and 2nd for spouseTotal Net Worth = $1,212,000

• Houses = $ 310,000• IRAs = $ 439,000• Liquid assets = $ 463,000

Page 13: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3

Total Current Income = $7,580Total Current UME = (4,696)IVAP = $2,884

Can not qualify for Pension

Page 14: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3 – Beginning Assets

Assets Veteran Spouse Joint TotalHouse $110,000 $200,000 $310,000IRA $423,000 16,000 439,000Annuity 85,000 85,000Other 198,000 180,000 378,000TOTAL $706,000 $126,000 $380,000 $1,212,000

Page 15: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3 - Revised

After Plan is ImplementedTotal Current Income = $2,725

Total Current UME = (4,696)IVAP = $ 0

Can now qualify for Full Pension

Page 16: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3 – Revised

Assets Veteran Spouse Joint TotalHouse $110,000 $200,000 $310,000IRA $ 439,000 439,000Annuity 85,000 85,000Other 20,000 358,000 378,000TOTAL $20,000 $634,000 $558,000 $1,212,000

Page 17: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3 – Recommendations

1. Divorce – give IRA to Spouse in settlement$3,500

2. VAPT (Veterans Asset Protection Trust) for assets 7,000

3. Transfer Veteran’s House to IDGT 4,000

4. Family Meetings to work out divorce settlement 2,000

5. Keep $20,000 in joint account with children

6. Transfer excess assets to VAPT

TOTAL INVESTMENT $16,500

Page 18: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #3 – Benefits to Client

1. Qualify for VA Pension (5 year benefit) $98,640

2. Move income tax liability on IRA to Spouse rather

than split non-taxable assets 126,900

2. Start clock for Medicaid

BENEFITS$225,540ROI (return on Investment) 1,367%

Page 19: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4

WWII Veteran (85) and Spouse (84)Veteran had stroke being care for at homeSpouse is in fair healthTotal Net Worth = $818,300

• Houses = $350,000• IRAs = $242,000• Liquid assets = $226,300

Page 20: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4

Total Current Income = $2,801Total Current UME = (2,187)IVAP = $ 614

Can qualify for a portion of Pension

Page 21: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4 – Beginning Assets

Assets Veteran Spouse Joint TotalHouse $350,000 $350,000IRA $226,000 16,000 242,000AnnuityOther 226,300 226,300TOTAL $226,000 $16,000 $576,300 $818,300

Page 22: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4 - Revised

After Plan is ImplementedTotal Current Income = $4,620

Total Current UME = (4,837)IVAP = $ 0

Can now qualify for Full Pension

Page 23: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4 – Revised Assets

Assets Veteran Spouse Trust TotalHouse $350,000 $350,000IRA $16,000 $16,000Annuity 226,300 226,300Other 10,000 10,000 6,000 8,000TOTAL $10,000 $26,000 $582,300 $618,300

Page 24: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4 – Recommendations

1. Personal Caregiver Agreement$2,500

2. VAPT (Veterans Asset Protection Trust) for assets 7,000

3. Transfer Veteran’s House to IDGT 4,000

4. Calculate IRA withdrawals 1,500

5. Purchase SPIA - $200,000 of IRA assets – 10 year payout 0

6. Withdraw $26,000 from IRA

TOTAL INVESTMENT $15,000

Page 25: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4 – Benefits to Client

1. Qualify for VA Pension (5 year benefit) $116,940

2. Withdraw IRA without income taxes 67,500

3. Start clock for Medicaid

BENEFITS$184,440

ROI (return on Investment) 1,230%

Page 26: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5

WWII Veteran (85) never marriedVeteran had strokeHe is in an ALFTotal Net Worth = $727,500

• Annuities = $707,500 ($313,000 gain)• Liquid assets = $ 20,000

Page 27: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5

Total Current Income = $1,527Total Current UME = (5,081)IVAP = $ 0

Can qualify for Pension

Page 28: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5 – Beginning Assets

Assets Value

Annuities $707,500

Checking/savings $20,000

TOTAL $727,500

Page 29: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5 - Revised

After Plan is ImplementedTotal Revised Income = $4,822

Total Current UME = (5,081)IVAP = $ 0

Can now qualify for Full Pension

Page 30: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5 –Revised Assets

Assets Veteran Trust Total

Savings $20,000 $20,000

Invested 0 $348,000 $348,000

Total $20,000 $348,000 $368,000

Page 31: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5 – Recommendations

1. Income tax analysis for annuity withdrawals $ 9,000

2. VAPT (Veterans Asset Protection Trust) for assets 7,000

3. Purchase SPIA - $359,000 of Annuity assets – 10 year payout

6. Withdraw $348,000 from annuities over 2 years

TOTAL INVESTMENT $16,000

Page 32: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #5 – Benefits to Client

1. Reduce income tax liability of annuities saves$313,000

2. Qualify for VA Pension (5 year benefit) 98,640

3. Start clock for Medicaid

BENEFITS$411,640

ROI (return on Investment) 2,573%

Page 33: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #6

WWII Veteran (85) and Spouse (84)Veteran had stroke in nursing home on MedicaidSpouse is in Assisted LivingTotal Net Worth = $207,500

• House = $100,000• IRAs = $ 75,000• Liquid assets = $ 32,500

Page 34: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #6

Total Current Income = $1,950Total Current UME = (3,756)IVAP = $ 0

Can qualify for a portion of Pension

Page 35: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #4 – Beginning Assets

Assets Veteran Spouse Joint TotalHouse $100,000 $100,000IRA $75,000 75,000Annuity 25,000 25,000Other 7,500 7,500TOTAL $75,000 $25,000 $107,500 $207,500

Page 36: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #6 - Revised

After Plan is ImplementedTotal Revised Income = $2,721

Total Current UME = (3,756)IVAP = $ 0

Can now qualify for Full Pension

Page 37: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #6 – Revised Assets

Assets Veteran Spouse Children TotalHouse $20,000 $80,000 $100,000IRAAnnuity 25,000 25,000Other 7,500 7,500TOTAL $ 0 $52,500 $80,000 $132,500

Page 38: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #6 – Recommendations

1. Income tax analysis for IRA and annuity withdrawals$4,000

2. Put house in Spouse’s name and gift majority of equity 4,000

3. Purchase SPIA - $75,000 of IRA assets –6 year payout 0

TOTAL INVESTMENT $8,000

Page 39: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

Case #6 – Benefits to Client

1. Qualify for VA Pension (5 year benefit) $116,940

2. Preserve Medicaid Qualification ($6,000 x 5 years)

BENEFITS$116,940

ROI (return on Investment) 1,462%

Page 40: Case Studies James (Jim) Swain, JD Founder and CEO of the Academy of VA Pension Planners, LLC Valerie Peterson, JD Executive Director of ElderCounsel,

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