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ANAB Accreditation in General
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Accreditation
ANAB assesses and accredits certification bodies (CBs) that demonstrate competence to audit
and certify organizations conforming with management systems standards.* Accreditation by a
recognized and respected body such as ANAB ensures the impartiality and competence of the
CB and fosters confidence and acceptance of the CB's certifications by end users in the public
and private sectors.
Accreditation Process
Refer to How to Become an ANAB-Accredited CB
*You can purchase many management system standards from ANSI and ASQ, both of which
offer member discounts.
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Is Your Certificate Accredited?
If your certificate was issued by an ANAB-accredited certification body (CB)= (registrar), the
answer to this question is probably yes. An accredited certificate should include both the CB's
mark and the accreditation mark of the accrediting body. Be sure to look for both marks.
Why does it matter? Accreditation is the means by which an authoritative body (such as the
ANAB) gives formal recognition that an organization (such as a CB) is competent to carry out
specific tasks. Accreditation provides assurance to a CB's customers that the CB continues to
operate according to internationally accepted criteria.
An organization considering certification rightfully wants to know about the reputation and
competence of the CB it selects. The organization wants assurance that the CB is competent to
evaluate its systems and that their customers will value the CB's judgment, no matter where their
customers are located.
Unaccredited CBs may or may not operate according to international requirements. Less
scrupulous CBs may offer a certificate without an audit or without any real understanding of an
organization's processes. Such a certificate would be of questionable value for the certified
organization and its customers.
An accredited CB (registrar) may also offer unaccredited certificates or certificates for
standards for which it is not accredited. If you want to rely on a certificate, you should
understand the qualifications of the CB that issued the certificate and whether or not the CB (and
certificate) is accredited.
The International Accreditation Forum, a global association of accreditation bodies, has
published a report on the value of accredited certification.
IAF motto ““certified once-accepted everywhere”
ANSI-ANAB®
If your certificate was issued by an ANAB-accredited certification body (CB)=
(registrar), the answer to this question is probably yes.
An accredited CB (registrar) may also offer unaccredited certificates or
certificates for standards for which it is not accredited.
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Response from Randy Dougherty- VP ANAB & President of
IAF
Dougherty, Randy A." Date: March 22, 2014 at 12:50:16 PM EDT
1. Why does ANAB's website state that the certificates issued by ANAB-
accredited certification bodies are "probably" accredited? [This question
needs a reference link to their assertion ref. link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140401133147/http://www.anab.org/ac
creditation.aspx -actual LINK what does “probably” mean?
2. Paragraph 5 –
https://web.archive.org/web/20140401133147/http://www.anab.org/accreditation.aspx
An accredited CB may also offer unaccredited certificates or
certificates for standards for which it is not accredited.
RANDY’S RESPONSE
The answer is very simple; an accredited CB is not required to issue only
accredited certificates. Just as a company voluntarily decides to be certified,
so too CBs voluntarily decide to become accredited; but even if accredited, a
CB is not required to issue accredited certifications only. A certificate is
considered accredited only if it bears an accreditation mark.
You have the VP of ANAB and President of IAF not
even knowing the requirements for an official ISO
certification
This is directly off ANAB web link above-
Is Your Certificate Accredited?
If your certificate was issued by an ANAB-accredited certification body (CB), the
answer to this question is probably yes. An accredited certificate should include both
the CB's mark and the accreditation mark of the accrediting body. Be sure to look for
both marks.
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http://aboac.org/accreditation-myths/
Accreditation Myths
From what began as a noble idea to improve quality within
companies and industries across the globe, ISO 9001:2008, AS9100-
REVC, TS16949, ISO13485 and other quality certifications have been
exploited, abused and monopolized driven by a multi-billion dollar
corruption by numerous organizations. Perhaps the most devious and
closely guarded secret behind this corruption is the myth of
accreditation. The fact is, accreditation is and always has been a
choice, not an obligation as clearly stated on the International
Standards Organization website at
http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards/certification.htm
“In most countries (including the United States), accreditation is a
choice, not an obligation and the fact that a certification body is
not accredited does not, by itself, mean that it is not a reputable
organization. For example, a certification body operating nationally
in a highly specific sector might enjoy such a good reputation that it
does not feel there is any advantage for it to go to the expense of
being accredited. That said, many certification bodies choose to
seek accreditation, even when it is not compulsory, in order to be
able to demonstrate an independent confirmation of their
competence.” Source: International Standards Organization (ISO).
How The ISO Accreditation Myth Works
Unfortunately the accreditation myth is practiced by all certification
bodies accredited by American National Accreditation Board
(ANAB®) and International Accreditation Federation (IAF). These
deceptive registrars utilize dishonest or naive auditors and
consultants to trick companies into believing accreditation is an
obligation and ANAB® is the only so-called “official” accreditation
body in the United States because it’s overseen by IAF. This of course
as explained above is a downright lie so please don’t be
hoodwinked into believing that ANAB® is the only “official”
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accreditation body in the United States. Utilizing the term ‘official’ in
ISO/AS/TS certification is nothing but a deceptive method to imply
an authority that is not there. Under these peculiar circumstances,
IAF is actually more a ceremonial organization than an official
organization. In fact, if one was to substitute the word ‘ceremonial’
for the word ‘official’ in the language of ANAB® that would perhaps
be closer to the truth.
Don’t Be an Accreditation Victim
ABAC warns all US companies to be aware of cunning consultants,
certification bodies and auditors that use the accreditation scheme
to acquire business from competitors. Keep note the trickery is
always practiced by scaring companies into believing their
certification will not be valid if not accredited by a certain
accreditation body (ANAB®). Unfortunately every day thousands of
companies nationwide become victims of the accreditation scam,
and it’s costing these businesses millions of dollars that would
otherwise be invested in a more cost-effective certification.
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http://aboac.org/anab-ansi-asq-national-accreditation-board/
ANAB® – ANSI-ASQ National
Accreditation Board Is your ISO certificate guaranteed to be accredited? If your
certificate was issued by a registrar (CB) accredited by the
American National Accreditation Board (ANAB®), the answer to this
question is there is no guarantee. On the ANAB® website-at
https://web.archive.org/web/20140401133147/http://www.anab.org
/accreditation.aspx there is a direct quote that states the following:
What does ANAB® mean by “probably accredited?” Probably
guarantees nothing, and therefore unfortunately any company
issued a certificate by a certification body accredited by ANAB®
has a serious dilemma. The company’s quality of their products,
system functionality in Aerospace, Medical, Automotive and other
industries is highly doubtful because their certificate is considered
“probably yes” by ANAB®. If you are unsure, please look at your
certificate, if you see it has an ANAB® insignia, then you have a
problem because your certification is not recognized by American
Board of Accredited Certifications ABAC and its international
chapters, affiliates, trade associations and customers. ABAC
guarantees accreditation while ANAB® only offers a “probably”. This
is the case whether you have an ISO 9001:2008, AS 9100 Rev C, ISO
13485, TS 16949 or other quality systems certification.
ANAB® is Not The “Official” Accreditation Body
Please take a look at the Accreditation Myths section here on ABAC.
It’s important you understand the myths, lies and deceptive
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practices involving accreditation. So makes a certificate official or
not official? Well despite ANAB® claiming or implying they are the
only official accreditation body in the United States that is untrue.
There are indeed a number of reputable accreditation bodies such
as ILG, ABAC, DNMM and many others that actually guarantees your
certificate to be accredited.
Misleading Claims from ANAB®
ANAB® has been reported to the American Board of Accredited
Certificates for making misleading claims of being the only
accreditation body which is simply not true. Such claims is nothing
more but an attempt to discredit companies accredited by other
organizations. The following is a direct quote once found on the
ANAB® website but has since been suspiciously removed by the
organization:
The ANAB® and IAF Deception
ANAB® says its “overseen” by the International Accreditation Forum
(IAF). However, The Vice President of ANAB® sits as the President and
Chairman of IAF. Conflict of interest? Fox watching the henhouse?
The point is companies are falling victim to this “overseeing”
nonsense boasted by ANAB®, IAF and several sub tier organizations
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that are affiliated with them. The scheme is simple, ANAB® would
refer non-ANAB® affiliated certification bodies to The International
Accreditation Federation (IAF) and inform such organizations if it’s
not recognized by ANAB®, then it’s not official. What is important for
companies to understand is there is no single accreditation body or
registrar that’s more official than another. The official ploy is used by
auditors, consultants and registrars (CB’s) to discredit competitive
certification bodies that have decided to not be ANAB® accredited
in order to better serve their customers.
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http://aboac.org/iaf-international-accreditation-forum/
IAF – International
Accreditation Forum On this page the American Board of Accredited Certifications explains the
reasons why it does not recognize the International Accreditation Forum (IAF) as
an acceptable accreditation organization.
IAF Monopoly vs Fair Competition
On its website the International Accreditation Forum (IAF) claims here
its primary function is to “develop a single worldwide program” of conformity
assessment which reduces risk for business and its customers by assuring them
that accredited certificates may be relied upon. ABAC see’s promoting and/or
supporting a “single worldwide program” is an IAF attempt to monopolize the
marketplace by discrediting competitive accreditation bodies. In short, a “single
worldwide program” of accreditation that is supposedly overseen by a sole
organization (IAF) and/or its subsidiaries is not only mathematically impossible to
implement, but counterproductive. Competition is essential in accreditation to
constantly improve the process, maintain integrity, and encourage affordable
pricing.
IAF and ANAB® Conflict of Interest
The IAF claims to be an impartial organization that oversees ANAB®. Yet, Randy
Dougherty, the Chairman and President of the International Accreditation
Forum, is also Vice President at ANSI-ASQ National Accreditation Board (ANAB).
Isn’t this a serious conflict of interest? The American Board of Accredited
Certifications questioned Mr. Dougherty how he can sit as the Chairman and
President of the International Accreditation Forum, while simultaneously holding
the position of Vice President of the ANSI-ASQ National Accreditation Board
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(ANAB) which the IAF supposedly oversees? We have yet to receive a clear
answer.
IAF Does Not Conform To ISO/ILG American Standards
IAF is located in Europe which disqualifies the organization because it does not
conform to ILG American standards (accreditation bodies need to conform to
ISO/ILG 9009). Therefore, IAF is using inappropriate international standards when
accrediting their certification bodies resulting in Invalid certificates issued by
registrars accredited by Bogus Accreditation Bodies.
IAF Has Ties with the Infamous MLA Group
IAF was found to be associated with the notorious MLA Group (Multilateral
Mutual Recognition Arrangement) which was classified as being anti-
competitive by AMSN and its international chapters. Further, the Industrial
Leaders Group showed the arrangement between IAF and MLA was an attempt
by the organizations to push their “certified once-accepted everywhere”
program in effort to force the marketplace to accept IAF as the “official”
international accreditation body. To be more specific, IAF MLA signatories are
obligated to recognize certificates accredited by other IAF MLA signatories as
equivalent but discredit certificates from organizations that are not members of
IAF.
IAF Admits To Questionable Practices
In a recent letter forwarded to ABAC by an associated, the IAF President Randy
Dougherty admits as an IAF MLA signatory, they recognize certifications
accredited by other IAF MLA signatory accreditation bodies as being equivalent
to an ANAB accredited certification. Yet, they do not recognize the
certifications accredited by organizations that are not members of IAF. Further,
in Mr. Dougherty’s own words, the IAF does not have anything to do with non-
accredited certifications. Again, this shows further monopolizing efforts by IAF
which is the primary reason why ABAC does not recognize certificates
accredited by IAF. The American Board of Accredited Certifications is
committed to overseeing accreditation and certification bodies known for
integrity, competency, and encouraging fair competition in the quality
community. Obviously we have found IAF to lack in these standards.
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Reference - Fee Schedule for Accreditation Programs for Management Systems Certification Bodies/ANAB® ANAB® DOCUMENT FM 500 DATE - Effective: 2015/04/29 Annual Royalty Fees Payable for each Base and Subordinate Standard Program unless otherwise noted
Payable semi-annually (see notes 1 and 2 below) 1.25% of worldwide gross revenue up to $3,600,000 for
each program Maximum annual fee (see note 3 below) $45,000 for each program (each base standard) Minimum annual fee $2,500 for each program (each base standard) Discount on annual fee A discount may be applied to royalties for each program (see note 4 below) based on the proportion of total ANAB-accredited
Certifications in force. At least 50% of all certifications for a program in force must be issued under ANAB accreditation to be eligible for the discount for that program.
REMEMBER BUSINESS OWNERS ASQ- ANSI-ASQ – ANAB are all not for profits – this
section from their documentation looks quite profitable!!
MANY OF THIS COMPANIES AND THEIR SUB CONTRACTORS ARE -ANSI-ANAB®/IAF
-QUALITY ISSUES-(AND A SAMPLE THOSE AGENCIES THAT ACCREDIT OR WATCH OVER THEM)
SAE-OASIS-IAQG (ANSI-ANAB®, IAF & ISO)
Electronics/military- quality issues
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-07/counterfeit-parts-from-china-found-
on-raytheon-boeing-systems.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/counterfeit-parts-from-china-raise-grave-concerns-
for-both-us-companies-and-national-security-2012-6
Aerospace- Navy – quality issues
http://video.suntimes.com/F35-Fighter-Jet-Has-Another-Problem-28244747
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/m/military_aircraft/f35
_airplane/index.html
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2020275838_boeingoutsourcingxml
.html
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Medical- quality issues
http://www.mddionline.com/article/which-device-firms-had-most-class-i-recall-
events-2013
http://www.drugwatch.com/medical-devices/
-QUALITY ISSUES-(AND A SAMPLE THOSE AGENCIES THAT ACCREDIT OR WATCH OVER THEM)
IATF – (ANSI-ANAB®, ISO) Automotive: quality issues IATF members include the following vehicle manufacturers: BMW Group, Chrysler Group, Daimler AG, Fiat Group Automobile, Ford Motor Company, General Motors Company), PSA Peugeot Citroen, Renault SA, Volkswagen AG and the vehicle manufacturers respective trade associations - AIAG (U.S.), ANFIA (Italy), FIEV (France), SMMT (U.K.) and VDA (Germany).
http://www.iatfglobaloversight.org/content.aspx?page=AboutIATF
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/21/us-gm-recall-idUSKBN0EW02O20140621
http://www.ibtimes.com/quality-crisis-gm-worst-year-recalls-2004-1588125-GM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle_recalls –TOYOTA
http://time.com/3556346/ford-five-recalls/ -FORD
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/bmw.html-BMW-BMW
http://wardsauto.com/psa-peugeot-recall-around-100000-cars PEUGEOT
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/renault-sa-daimler-recall-idUSL6N0RP39Q20140924-Renault
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/chrysler.html - Chrysler Group
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-usas-new-littoral-combat-ships-updated-
01343/
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1. Still No Response From IAQG / AS9100 Lead For Flight
Safety Concerns
http://dguberman.com/still-no-response-from-iaqg-
as9100-lead-for-flight-safety-concerns/
2. QAS INTERNATIONAL (QAS LTD-SUED IN 1997-LOST
LITIGATION) they presently certify ACCURATE &
PROFESSIONAL PLASTICS which supplies materials to
BOEING and major aerospace companies! Professional
has been given awards by BOEING. (professional
plastics has since changed to PERRY JOHNSON
REGISTRATRS)
http://web.archive.org/web/20030208050839/http://www.cqm.c
o.za/articles/bogus.htm
Bogus Certification: On the 18 July (1997) Quality Assurance Systems Ltd (QAS), a
nonaccredited certification body, was successfully prosecuted by
Northamptonshire County Council Trading Standards Service for offences
under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 The offences related to the issue of
registration certificates containing false statements that firms had been
assessed and approved to ISO 9002. David Hedger, the main investigating
officer at Northamptonshire Trading Standards, reports.
NOTE: Quality Assurance Systems Ltd (QAS) after their suit changed their name to
QAS INTERNATIONAL.